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Liking all new everything?
Black and White have had massive brand new changes, and one of them is that in the pre-National dex, there all ALL new Pokemon. Do you think that it's good? I like the fact we won't be seeing 'A wild Zubat appeared' or 'A wild Tentacool appeared' but cool Pokemon like Eevee are gone D: I think it'll be made up for if Gen 5 has the awesome-est Pokemon yet.
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I'm happy that the older Pokemon will be gone for the main storyline. However, I am happy that I will be able the bring my old Pokemon back via Pokeshifter. This way, I can still have my old Pokemon, but cathc and train various new ones
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I think its pretty cool,but I am sad that Pikachu,Ampharos and all of my other favorite Pokemon will not be in there,but hey,Its a good way for a fresh new start.
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This is the coolest yet.. jk
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I think it'll be a great way to keep the games fresh- without any Pikachu, Geodude, or Zubat keeping us down (I should mention I still like them anyway), it'll definitely feel like an entirely new region. I'm worried that people will complain about this like they did with Hoenn, but the National Dex opening up the option for older guys will likely cut the odds of that.
But yeah, it definitely seems faraway if nothing familiar is there. I embrace the change. |
Yeah its going to be pretty sick, except we gotta wait for the english version.
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I think it's a great idea. Refreshes the series a great deal.
I hope we get a lot of new Pokemon into the deal, though. |
Ummm...has it been confirmed that there are no previous Pokemon, or is everyone jumping to conclusions?
If there isn't any prior Pokemon in the pre-national Dex, then that will be awesome! |
I could live without Gear, but other than that, it's great!
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Why is it that when Hoenn removed tons of old favorites and tried to revolutionize the franchise it was ridiculed, but when Isshu does it it's praised?
I hope this isn't true. It'd be more realistic if they had at least a few Pokemon in common. |
I think the 5th gen looks pretty cool so far , except for that lame red and blue rock thing.
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Posted on the gamefreak japanese website by the director of Game Freak. |
I Dont know... I like the idea of all new pokemon, but like he said... pokemon Like Eevee and abra, are gone plus machop and magnemite D;
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With Eevee, it's even possible to get new evolutions. Look at how they did Electivire and so many others in DP. |
This is stupid, I dont want to use these crappy pokemon,
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I'm pretty much open to the idea of being able to find only the Gen V Pokémon in this game before the National Dex. Throughout the years I've always relied on a few old favorites to be apart of my team. However, Black and White will give me the opportunity to explore the new Pokémon of Isshu and not have to depend on the older Pokémon I used to rely on at first. I never played Red and Blue first like many Pokémon fans did, but I'm sure the experience of playing Black and White will feel similar. A new region, resetting the route number, and then having to use the new Pokémon altogether will give it that feel that it is something new. It is a reboot to Pokémon and I think they're going in the right direction here. Plus, it isn't like you won't have the chance to use your older Pokémon after. Actually, if they're so determined to start new and make the game bigger and better, there just might be hope that post-game there will be more to offer. Thus, giving purpose to have your older Pokémon afterward.
Hating on the idea though is only wasting your time. You're either open to the idea, dislike the idea yet are willing to give it a try, or you just leave it alone and skip this generation. Considering its been said by the director of GameFreak, people will just have to deal. If you're a die hard gamer though, you'll learn to live with using what you're given like a majority of us did back when Pokémon first came out with Red and Blue and we only had 150 Pokémon to choose from. |
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Gen 3 all over again. I do not want to be severely restricted and told "You can't use those 493 Pokemon to beat the game, here use these 150." I want a combination of old and new to beat the game with, and not have to wait until afterwards, when I don't even need to use them. Seriously, postgame stuff is just filler. If I'm going to "use" a Pokemon, I want it as part of my team that I raise throughout my journey to beat the League. Gen 3 severely limited your Pokemon and is ridiculed even today for it (though it also had a horrendous region), and considering about 80% of the Gen 5 designs are absolutely vomit-inducing, I'd want the option of catching some old favorites to raise in Isshu as well.
There are about 50 other things they could do to revitalize and "freshen up" the series...this is not one of them. |
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Also, Midnight Bear has it right. If you dislike it anyway, why are you bothering to post about it? You can have your opinion, but keep it down with the abrasiveness, por favor. Other people happen to be excited about this stuff. |
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Fine no one listen to me. |
I am seriously liking everything ;)
Yeah why is Isshu being praised while people ridiculed Hoenn for having so little old pokemon... |
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I think Generation 5 will be awesome. I absolutely LOVED the Hoenn region, and I don't care what anybody says about Isshu. :D |
It's a bold move, I'll give them that. I'm happy to see Game Freak has the balls to mix things up again, to me Gen 4 felt to similar to everything else. The fact that they have balls to make changes is what im more interested about.
My gripe though is the national dex usually doesn't come into play until after the region champion is defeated. It seems redundant to collect 493 pokemon that only serve to fill in the dex. If they make enough content post - region champion like traveling to another region (old or new) and have another main quest to follow, then it'll be all worth it. So whether or not it's a good decision really rests with how much content we get post- pokemon league. Otherwise I'm going to have to agree with haters and call "filler". |
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My wish came true :) I always wanted each region to have purely their region pokemon and all the national ones after you get the national dex. I just want to jump into a pool of new pokemon and not find the same ones I have already used. Like going into your favorite store and they have all this awesome new merchandise :)
I think it is a great move. As long as around 95% of the other 493 pokemon are avaliable after the national dex :) |
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Well, I'm very sure we will Get a new pre-evo and new evo's, so at least some pkmn have to be in the isshu dex, no?
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Hmm I like this idea ONLY if we get the national dex somewhere in the middle of the game instead of right at the end. Just so we can choose later if we wanna train up some other pokemon without it being so late in the game that there aren't any trainers left to battle and train new(old) pokemon.
That way we get to try out all the new pokemon at the start but still get the option of playing through some of the new story line with some old favs. |
its an ok idea i guess. what bothers me is that there wont be any new evolutions or prevolutions until you finish the game. other than that, its cool. this might also mean we get a large number of new pokemon, maybe 150.
does this also mean that the pokeshifter wont appear until after you finish the game? |
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I don't like this idea much at all really. The whole point of having that many Pokemon is having a massive choice of which to use; I'd rather they just opened up the full Dex from the start instead of having this Isshu/National Dex nonsense.
What this means is that we'll be stuck with the same old situation where each route only has 3 or 4 wild Pokemon species on it. If all Pokemon were available from the start there'd be so much more variety in teams; as it is everyone has the same team for the first Gym. |
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Well, the ugly design of the female trainer already had me disinterested in these games.... this news certainly does not tip the scales in favor of B/W. Persian has always been a staple of my team... unless there's a 5th generation cat Pokemon that is at least as elegant and attractive as Persian, I won't be very happy.
At least rubbish like Rattata, Zubat, and Pikachu won't be included, but then again, many better Pokemon also won't be in the game. |
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Also, does this mean you can't trade any of the previous gen Pokemon until the National Dex? I mean if that isn't the case, why not just trade the ones you love to BW to use on your team. I don't see the big deal. :0 |
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Oh, and lol. |
No Gen I-IV Pokemon in the Isshu Pokedex!
That means we're due for a MASSIVE addition to the National Dex. This could be the largest Regional Dex yet.
MY EXCITEMENT IS QUITE HIGH NOW |
yesssss I am so relived no more
Wild Pikachu appeared Wild Geodude appeared Wild Zubat appeared EVERY FREAKN ROUTE OF EVERY FREAKIN GAME!!! It's nice to see a fresh start |
^ Pikachu is rare in all titles he appears in.
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Is it confirmed that there will be no Gen I to IV in the Isshu dex?
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I'm actually pleased about this. It seems like less of an invasion and we'll get to experience the new Pokémon for what they are (as opposed to mixing them in with previous gens and comparing).
A reboot like this is a great idea. |
Why are people complaining really?
No Pikachu? Boohoo, it's pretty useless to be honest, especially in DP/Pt where the Thunderstone took forever to find or you needed 7 badges. I think it's a great idea to have a Gen5 only Dex. It makes perfect sense. And to those who want their normal Pokémon what's stopping you trading them over? You are limited EVERY Generation the same way so I don't really see the problem :S. |
I love the idea. It gives the series more of a "fresh" feel.
From what I've seen, this game will have the most interesting Pokemon yet. I've really fallen in love with three, Meguroko, Shimama, and Gear. |
It's going to be strange at first but now thinking about it, it'll be much easier to complete the Isshu Pokédex.
Plus, we won't have to be sprawling around in caves seeing Zubat, and in the waters with no Magikarp! This is definitely going to be an interesting and strange thing to see. |
Well I wish we had at least a few old mons but it's still a pretty good idea :)
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BW are going to make me feel like a little kid again :D I enjoyed playing blue with not knowing what I'd find xD
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Oh yeah... Remember the mandatory trainer in every generation that only had 6 Magikarps?
NO MORE! |
I'm expecting a Geodude replacement, and a Magikarp replacement, we already have our abra and Zubat replacements it seems...
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I'm kind of neutral towards this. On the one hand, 150+ new pokemon is pretty cool as it will encourage me to try something different as I nearly always have 2 or 3 Kanto/Johto pokemon in my team. On the other hand, I'll miss being able to play through with some of the old pokemon, especially Eevee since I always have an Eeveelution in my team (except Sapphire).
Perhaps they'll do what they have done in Diamond, make it so you can trade none regional dex pokemon onto the game but they don't register in the pokedex until after the elite 4? Either way, going to make for an interesting game! |
The thing is that most people will have to get the old mon from a friend who has beaten the game...as the GTS only shows pokemon that you have encountered...
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Unless Munna has another evolution I see it more of a new drowzee. I am thinking Gaiasu(Whatever it's name is) is either the rhyhorn or geodude line.
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What can I say...
HOORAH!! No, but seriously, I'm happy that they are giving us a total Reboot in the series, because I was never around in the good ol' Classic days, such as Red/Blue ( By the way, I know this is what Hiiro said ) So it's nice to know that they are resetting all of these things, i'm really starting to like 5th Gen, mostly because I started on Gold, then moved on, and recently came back, and never got to experience what it was like to have these "Reboots", so now it's almost like a new start, new adventures, all with new everything, it just get's me more pumped for this series. |
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I see Gear as a Magnemite replacement more than Geodude... |
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now tenta-not so-cool can burn for all i care its fontastic as long as their givin i nice variety of fire,water,grass,electric,& dragon types. i hope theres a few nice steel,& dark types too :) but with this it gives me 2 impressions: 1- tsutarja will be the new bulbasaur: grass/poison :disappoin &2- the dex will only have 152 at first (countin victini&an extra legend)at maximum 252 (countin victini) |
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Yeah I agree with you, it does seem like the new Golem :) |
I'm not a particularly large fan of being forced to use all-new pokemon and ignore my current favorites until after the E4, but it makes sense within the context of the game. XD
I'd still prefer a Safari Zone full of imported pokemon at least, but whatever. XD |
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Compared to other Electric families it is poor. |
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I'd rather use a flailing Magikarp than a pikachu xD
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I like the idea of starting fresh again. it feels like Hoenn all over again! =)
I'm okay with most Pokemon that have come out anyway. |
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Besides, I'm excited at this. If Gamefreak does it right, there'll be 150+ new Pokemon to use. That's pretty decent. |
I quite like this,it isolates the new generation from the old generations and I always wanted this for B/W. But that means we might see many multiple Pokémon across the whole region.
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old gen pokemon in the pokedex would still be great
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This leads me to assume that the rumor about there being more than 150 new Pokemon is true then.
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It reminds me of RSE too only less old pokemon :D
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Hmm, it feels like every day I learn something new that I don't like about Isshu, I hope they give me the national dex after 4 badges or something, that way I can use some of the older pokemon if I want to.
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Yeah. Im pretty sure it'll be after the E4. If you dont like it, dont buy it. Tough noogies, I know
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I personally am enjoying the idea of an all-new pokedex with Isshu-specific pokemon. I found it so annoying to run into a million tentacools while trying to surf around. :/ This gives everyone an opportunity to start afresh, and build teams from scratch; we will all have to learn what types certain pokemon are out of trial-and-error. I can't wait for spring! This, and the 3ds are going to make me so excited...:p
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I loved Hoenn purely for the fact that were wasn't as many originals in it, and i loved the storyline.
Now I know Isshu has no originals until (Inter)NationalDex, I can't wait :D |
EPIC. I THOUGHT THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. <3333 It could be a good way to bring the popularity it had in Generation I. Yay! :D
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All I can say is ...
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But in all seriousness, this is AWESOME! I have always wanted this to happen. It kind of felt awkward using the old pokemon, except in Johto, since it was right next door. That was understandable... Hoenn and Sinnoh... not so much. |
Can i have a refrence to this?
this will make the dex harder to fill. |
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This is a big surprise for me but I'll deal with it. Hopefully once all the new pokemon are revealed they will be well rounded and I wont have any itches for classic pokes during the story.
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Well they seem to know about Pikachu despite not being in their dex (look at Huin they show Pikachu in a screen...)
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This is a mixed bag. I'll miss my (now) mandatory Sunkern, but at least Koromori will probably take the place of the generic bat this generation. Zubat gets way too much hate, especially when its evolution is great.
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hmm was there not many previous pokes in Hoenn? i never noticed =P
though it might've been i was only 11 or 12 and i was too excited for it i thought Hoenn was great and holds alot of my favorites =\ This is hardly anything new, for me anyway... I've always made it my Mission to use ALL new Pokemon in Each Region but my team first playthrough it almost the same each time xDD Grass Starter, Flying Normal you catch in first routes, a nice Electric type all the rest were New Improv =DD |
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