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Charizardomination August 3rd, 2010 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Bear (Post 6033685)
If you don't like it, then why are you using up time visiting a forum about it to whine about it? If you dislike it, it seems rather... dumb to be taking the time to post about it.

Do you mind telling me what all this hype is about? I dont know what everyones so excited about.

Fine no one listen to me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 3rd, 2010 8:23 PM

I am seriously liking everything ;)
Yeah why is Isshu being praised while people ridiculed Hoenn for having so little old pokemon...

.-Notched August 3rd, 2010 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6033630)
Dude! Give it a rest if you dont like anything. then dont buy the game. We don't wanna hear you complaining on every single thread. you got your word out dude. Leettt.. me guess you hate Gen 5. WOW. How did i guess that. that is simply incredible.

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Originally Posted by ShinyFufu (Post 6033650)
Agreed. No one's forcing you to buy these games.

This.

I think Generation 5 will be awesome. I absolutely LOVED the Hoenn region, and I don't care what anybody says about Isshu. :D

Perry_ August 3rd, 2010 10:58 PM

It's a bold move, I'll give them that. I'm happy to see Game Freak has the balls to mix things up again, to me Gen 4 felt to similar to everything else. The fact that they have balls to make changes is what im more interested about.

My gripe though is the national dex usually doesn't come into play until after the region champion is defeated. It seems redundant to collect 493 pokemon that only serve to fill in the dex. If they make enough content post - region champion like traveling to another region (old or new) and have another main quest to follow, then it'll be all worth it.

So whether or not it's a good decision really rests with how much content we get post- pokemon league. Otherwise I'm going to have to agree with haters and call "filler".

MistahDude August 3rd, 2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Perry_ (Post 6034081)
It's a bold move, I'll give them that. I'm happy to see Game Freak has the balls to mix things up again, to me Gen 4 felt to similar to everything else. The fact that they have balls to make changes is what im more interested about.

My gripe though is the national dex usually doesn't come into play until after the region champion is defeated. It seems redundant to collect 493 pokemon that only serve to fill in the dex. If they make enough content post - region champion like traveling to another region (old or new) and have another main quest to follow, then it'll be all worth it.

So whether or not it's a good decision really rests with how much content we get post- pokemon league. Otherwise I'm going to have to agree with haters and call "filler".

They are doing it because they want to refresh the series.

Beyerful August 3rd, 2010 11:30 PM

My wish came true :) I always wanted each region to have purely their region pokemon and all the national ones after you get the national dex. I just want to jump into a pool of new pokemon and not find the same ones I have already used. Like going into your favorite store and they have all this awesome new merchandise :)

I think it is a great move. As long as around 95% of the other 493 pokemon are avaliable after the national dex :)

Ninja Caterpie August 3rd, 2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 6033121)
Why is it that when Hoenn removed tons old favorites and tried to revolutionize the franchise it was ridiculed, but when Isshu does it it's praised?

I hope this isn't true. It'd be more realistic if they had at least a few Pokemon in common.

"Because the new Pokemon suck anyway so getting rid of them is good!"

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 3rd, 2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Beyerful (Post 6034123)
My wish came true :) I always wanted each region to have purely their region pokemon and all the national ones after you get the national dex. I just want to jump into a pool of new pokemon and not find the same ones I have already used. Like going into your favorite store and they have all this awesome new merchandise :)

I think it is a great move. As long as around 95% of the other 493 pokemon are avaliable after the national dex :)

We aren't sure how many old mon are in the Isshu dex actually :)...

MartinJF August 4th, 2010 12:08 AM

Well, I'm very sure we will Get a new pre-evo and new evo's, so at least some pkmn have to be in the isshu dex, no?

o0PinkSquid0o August 4th, 2010 12:14 AM

Hmm I like this idea ONLY if we get the national dex somewhere in the middle of the game instead of right at the end. Just so we can choose later if we wanna train up some other pokemon without it being so late in the game that there aren't any trainers left to battle and train new(old) pokemon.

That way we get to try out all the new pokemon at the start but still get the option of playing through some of the new story line with some old favs.

vibratingcat August 4th, 2010 12:24 AM

its an ok idea i guess. what bothers me is that there wont be any new evolutions or prevolutions until you finish the game. other than that, its cool. this might also mean we get a large number of new pokemon, maybe 150.

does this also mean that the pokeshifter wont appear until after you finish the game?

Perry_ August 4th, 2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6034106)
They are doing it because they want to refresh the series.

Did you actually read what I said? I know damn well why they are doing it.

Sammuthegreat August 4th, 2010 12:40 AM

I don't like this idea much at all really. The whole point of having that many Pokemon is having a massive choice of which to use; I'd rather they just opened up the full Dex from the start instead of having this Isshu/National Dex nonsense.

What this means is that we'll be stuck with the same old situation where each route only has 3 or 4 wild Pokemon species on it. If all Pokemon were available from the start there'd be so much more variety in teams; as it is everyone has the same team for the first Gym.

knook August 4th, 2010 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Charizardomination (Post 6033578)
This is stupid, I dont want to use these crappy pokemon,

Of which we only have twenty-odd confirmed out of over a hundred... Yeah, not jumping the gun at all there

MistahDude August 4th, 2010 2:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6034146)

We aren't sure how many old mon are in the Isshu dex actually :)...

Because of the whole series rebirth theory I would say 151, which is counting Victini. The actual last pokemon could be number 150.

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Originally Posted by Perry_ (Post 6034081)
It's a bold move, I'll give them that. I'm happy to see Game Freak has the balls to mix things up again, to me Gen 4 felt to similar to everything else. The fact that they have balls to make changes is what im more interested about.

My gripe though is the national dex usually doesn't come into play until after the region champion is defeated. It seems redundant to collect 493 pokemon that only serve to fill in the dex. If they make enough content post - region champion like traveling to another region (old or new) and have another main quest to follow, then it'll be all worth it.

So whether or not it's a good decision really rests with how much content we get post- pokemon league. Otherwise I'm going to have to agree with haters and call "filler".

Part of Pokemon is catching them all. Many people actually like to collect the other 493 pokemon even if it isn't required and even if the award for doing it is lame.

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Originally Posted by Perry_ (Post 6034211)
Did you actually read what I said? I know damn well why they are doing it.

Yes I did read what you said and there was nothing about the rebirth of the series.

Sora's Nobody August 4th, 2010 4:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Charizardomination (Post 6033660)
Dont be hating dude, I dont like them so what. No need to go off on me with that ridiculous green text.

The text is blue actually.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ August 4th, 2010 5:28 AM

Well, the ugly design of the female trainer already had me disinterested in these games.... this news certainly does not tip the scales in favor of B/W. Persian has always been a staple of my team... unless there's a 5th generation cat Pokemon that is at least as elegant and attractive as Persian, I won't be very happy.

At least rubbish like Rattata, Zubat, and Pikachu won't be included, but then again, many better Pokemon also won't be in the game.

JP August 4th, 2010 6:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6033379)
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=255

Posted on the gamefreak japanese website by the director of Game Freak.

Sweet. This is something that's definitely got me excited some more.

Also, does this mean you can't trade any of the previous gen Pokemon until the National Dex? I mean if that isn't the case, why not just trade the ones you love to BW to use on your team. I don't see the big deal. :0

Kirbychu August 4th, 2010 7:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 6034126)
"Because the new Pokemon suck anyway so getting rid of them is good!"

But they're replacing garbage with garbage. D:

Oh, and lol.

SgtPatches August 4th, 2010 9:28 AM

No Gen I-IV Pokemon in the Isshu Pokedex!
 
That means we're due for a MASSIVE addition to the National Dex. This could be the largest Regional Dex yet.

MY EXCITEMENT IS QUITE HIGH NOW

MegaKuriboh August 4th, 2010 9:55 AM

yesssss I am so relived no more
Wild Pikachu appeared
Wild Geodude appeared
Wild Zubat appeared
EVERY FREAKN ROUTE OF EVERY FREAKIN GAME!!!
It's nice to see a fresh start

Heart's Soul August 4th, 2010 9:58 AM

^ Pikachu is rare in all titles he appears in.

rocky505 August 4th, 2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Heart's Soul (Post 6035420)
^ Pikachu is rare in all titles he appears in.

I think he was common in the power plant.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 4th, 2010 10:14 AM

Is it confirmed that there will be no Gen I to IV in the Isshu dex?

GFA August 4th, 2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6035468)
Is it confirmed that there will be no Gen I to IV in the Isshu dex?

Yes. Bulbapedia did it. go to the main page. Its the most recent news


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