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Pepo August 6th, 2010 12:20 PM

Pokemon Worth Leveling?
 
What pokemon do you think is worth leveling in HG?

At the moment on my game my party consists of...

Typhlosion - Lvl 55
Ho-oh - Lvl 48
Red Gyarados - Lvl 34
Pinsir - Lvl 24
Sudowoodo - Lvl 20

Also I have 2 Rare Candys that level up a single pokemon one level.

At the moment Im at the Pokemon League Elite 4. [First Time Round] Its really hard at the mo :/ I get to Lance kill his Gyarados then get killed by his Articuno.

Any ideas on what to level up and what not?

minipele August 6th, 2010 1:16 PM

you should level up gyarados to atleast lvl 45, and try and teach it thunderbolt

Faten August 6th, 2010 1:23 PM

Isn't the Red Gyarados a neutral nature? Or was that just my bad luck? x3 Either way, nature shouldn't amtter much in main game. But I do agree that the Gyarados is most worth leveling up. It can learn Dragon Dance at level 44, which is extremely useful. Though, it doesn't really have that great of a Special Attack...I'd just stick Ice Fang and Waterfall on it, not Thunderbolt.

If you still have trouble, catch other Pokemon. If you have time leveling, a Dragonite is amazing.

SgtPatches August 6th, 2010 1:33 PM

Since when does Lance have an Articuno?

I digress, though. Your team definitely needs more balance. There's no reason your Pinsir and Sudowoodo should be so low, unless you just pulled them out of the PC. Sudowoodo was at level 20 at route 36, meaning you've done absolutely nothing in the way of training it since capture. As for Ho-Oh and Typhlosion, there is really no need for two fire-types, especially considering that Ho-Oh's susceptibility to electric attacks would get it smoked when Lance's Thunder Dragonite enters the field.

I'd recommend fitting your team with some better Pokemon. Swinub and Jinx are both great ice-type Pokemon available in the Ice Path, and they're both great for taking down Lance, especially with Swinub's final evolution, Mamoswine. You should also consider adding a better rock type than Sudowoodo, which is easy considering Onix and Graveler are both rather common on victory road. Plus, Onix can learn Dragonbreath, and combined with his great defense and moveset, He would be a healthy addition as well.

Don't forget about the free Dratini you got from the Dragon Master in Blackthorn City. As difficult as it is to level grind the Dratini family, it's completely worth it for how powerful it is.

PalkiaSpace August 6th, 2010 1:50 PM

Along with what everyone else said, I suggest getting an electric type. If you're in a tough spot, it will do nuetral to the Dragonites, and it would be super on everything else. I suggest Ampharos, (Cliche right? xD) Teach it Signal Beam, Thunderbolt, Discharge, and whatever else you want. That moveset is working wonders for me, but you can use what you like. Yu also need your team way leveled up. Get everything at least ~43 and you'll be ok. (Says the guy who took on the E4 with late 30's)

Amore August 6th, 2010 2:03 PM

I would actually suggest Miltank.

It is naturally bulky, has decent offense, and quite surprisingly speedy. This meant my lv.14 one can stand up to lv.20+ pokemon already. Going by that, hit lv.40 and it'll be holding it's own against Lance.

I can agree with Ampharos, that is a brilliant pokemon, provided you can get the right moves. Ice-types aren't particularly worth it afterwards, apart from against Erika, and being neutral against Hail.

I also have a final suggestion:

Lanturn.

It's got an immunity to Electric (with Volt Absorb), good resistance to Fire,Water,Ice,Flying,Steel, and can learn damaging attacks of Electric,Bug,Water and Ice types, giving you brilliant coverage. It's also really bulky, but still damaging. It only has 2 weaknesses, Grass and Ground, so whilst it's got more than Ampharos, that's not many

Guy August 6th, 2010 2:37 PM

So, just moving this to the right section for you. n_n;

FerretFox41 August 6th, 2010 2:53 PM

Ignore the part about teaching Gyarados Thunderbolt; Gyarados' base Special Attack is a measly 60, whilst its base Attack stat is 125.

I'd suggest raising your Red Gyarados to, as stated earlier, level 44, and give it Dragon Dance, Waterfall, Ice Fang, and whatever else you'd like (I taught mine Headbutt).

If you're willing to, you can go back to Route 44, and Headbutt for a Heracross. Its pretty common there, with a 30% appearance rate, and it's either level 21 or 22, meaning that it's already guaranteed to be stronger than your Sudowoodo.

In my first playthrough, I used a Lickilicky, and it worked surprisingly well. It has impressive bulk, and can use either attacking stat pretty well. You can catch a Lickitung in the Safari Zone, in the Mountain area, and from what I've seen, its pretty common.

Tangrowth is another option for a bulky Pokemon that can do damage. I'd give mine Sleep Powder and Tickle, and then it's your choice for attacking attacks.

Pepo August 7th, 2010 3:36 AM

Okay thanks. I think i'll keep Ho-oh and Typhlosion as Ho-oh's Fly does some good damage along with other moves. Unfortunately I didnt intend on using Gyarados on fighting so his moves are Whirlpool, Waterfall, Surf & Ice Fang.

Im going to throw away Sudowoodo and Pinsir as I dont use them and Im going to get Swinub, Onix, Jynx & Possibly Miltank or the Dratini you get from the dragon master.

Whats best move types to teach on these pokemon? Swinub - Ice, Onix - Rock, What'd be best for Jynx and Dratini? Also, anyone know where I can get a Jynx at a decent level?

Plus, I got 2 rare candies? Who you think I should use them on?

Thanks

GreenLanturn August 7th, 2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6043082)
I also have a final suggestion:

Lanturn.

It's got an immunity to Electric (with Volt Absorb), good resistance to Fire,Water,Ice,Flying,Steel, and can learn damaging attacks of Electric,Bug,Water and Ice types, giving you brilliant coverage. It's also really bulky, but still damaging. It only has 2 weaknesses, Grass and Ground, so whilst it's got more than Ampharos, that's not many

could not agree more. Also i saw you had pinsir, Have you considered using scizor instead. he only has one weakness and can learn a wider variety of moves.plus he has many more resistances

Pepo August 7th, 2010 11:24 AM

I got my party Im leveling it now at the moment. I got Typhlosion, Ho-oh, Gyarados, Dratini, Swinub and Flaffy. Leveling them up from level 15 at the mo.


Anyone know what moves I should teach to my pokemon that can help kill Lance?

GreenLanturn August 7th, 2010 11:29 AM

you could use some ice moves like ice beam

Pepo August 7th, 2010 11:43 AM

yeah my Swinub is gonna have 3 Ice moves, I dont know what his fourth will be. My Flaffy will go full Electric moves, most probably and my Dratini, I wouldnt know what moves to give it. Aint really ever used a Dratini in any of the games.

jjnerdful August 7th, 2010 11:58 AM

Rock and Dragon will also help.

Pepo August 7th, 2010 12:01 PM

My Flaffy just evolved into Ampheros. Im going to get it to around level 40-45, then get my Swinub up then my Dratini.

Weavile05 August 7th, 2010 12:24 PM

Here's what I have on my Ampharos
Charge (in case I ever have to hit anything non super effectively with discharge)
Discharge
Focus Blast
Power Gem
This moveset does pretty well, you can use charge to power up discharge in case you have to hit a dragonite with it. Your ampharos probably will not know Power Gem, because mine didn't learn it until sometime in Kanto. You could go with Signal Beam or Fire Punch until then.

Pepo August 7th, 2010 12:30 PM

Focus Blast, TM or does it learn that spell at a certain level?

Weavile05 August 7th, 2010 12:31 PM

TM, it can be bought at the Goldenrod department store.

Pepo August 7th, 2010 12:34 PM

Alright Thanks, Can you give me a little bit of thedescription so I know what TM it is? Or even the TM Number if you know it. Thanks

Weavile05 August 7th, 2010 12:56 PM

Focus Blast
TM 52
It has 120 Power, 70 Accuracy, is Fighting type, and may lower the target's Sp. Def by one stage. I can't remember the exact description, but I think I've given enough info already.

mrunner4home August 7th, 2010 1:32 PM

you say things like "I'm going to teach my ampharos all electric types" or "I taught my gyarados all water moves" .............
--------- that is definitely NOT the way to go. you should teach your pokemon a variety of moves. no more than two of the same type, if you absolutely HAVE to have two (i.e. a pokemon that knows fly would be good also having air cutter, because air cutter is a sp atk and also it doesn't take...you know, for those times you just want to finish quickly).

you say you have pokemon ranging from lv 20 to like 43
--------- this is also bad. they should be around the same level. unless one is an hm slave or like a milktank, that you use for the milk drink hp restore. but otherwise they should be around the same lv

you say you have a ho oh and a ... typhlosion??
--------- why would you have two of the same type on your team? two fire types? I mean come on. well, if you must have the two, make their move sets as different as you can

all in all, this team would definitely have trouble beating the elite four. good luck fixing it :)

Pepo August 7th, 2010 1:39 PM

Well im on Lance, I havnt lost any pokemon, I used Typhlosion and Ho-oh I used 1 Super Potion and im not Trying. Im not having that much trouble. I just need ice moves for the Dragons of Lance and the electric pokemon for Gyarados, I dont know whats best type of pokemon to kill the Aerodactyl. It seems to wipe me out all the time.

Weavile05 August 7th, 2010 2:24 PM

Ice, water, electric, and steel will all work about the same, though physical attacks will probably hit harder than special attacks, due to his slightly higher base sp. def. Rock is best for his Charizard, just in case you were wondering.

Pepo August 7th, 2010 2:41 PM

Im on HG He doesnt have Charizard. He got Aerodactyl, 3 Dragonites, Gyarados and One other that I forgot, Maybe even 4 Dragonites.

EDIT: He does have Charizard sorry ;P I can always usemy Gyarados, he'll be around level 45

GrazzingCow August 7th, 2010 7:18 PM

An excellent ice pokemon to consider is Lapras. It is in union cave every friday. It learns ice beam naturally and with its water attacks (i personally use surf) it has an advantage over 5 out of 6 of lance's pokemon.

Mine personally knows
Surf
Thunder
Rain Dance
Ice Beam

Because it receives STAB with ice beam it slaughters his dragonites and his areodactly,
Charizard is screwed because of surf,
If you do teach it thunder or thunderbolt garados is done for.
Although he doesnt have an amazing based special attack STAB tends to make up for it where it counts.

Weavile05 August 7th, 2010 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepo (Post 6046877)
Im on HG He doesnt have Charizard. He got Aerodactyl, 3 Dragonites, Gyarados and One other that I forgot, Maybe even 4 Dragonites.

EDIT: He does have Charizard sorry ;P I can always usemy Gyarados, he'll be around level 45

you could use gyarados, I was just saying that rock was the best, but water and electric work great too, so yeah, use gyarados if you don't have Rock type moves.

Rapidash August 8th, 2010 12:31 AM

My Dewgong just destroyed Lance. And Seels are very easy to train. I think I got mine at lv 20 and it was while swimming on the path to the Safari Zone

Trained up very quickly on the way to the Elite 4 and then destroyed everything there (except for Gyarados :) )

Pepo August 9th, 2010 4:00 AM

After spending a couple of days power leveling my pokemon at the Pokemon League, I finally beat Lance. My current HG paty I used to kill Lance

Typhlosion - Level 72
Ho-oh - Level 51
Gyarados - Level 44
Ampharos - Level 44
Piloswine - Level 48

Itstoppedatumbreon August 17th, 2010 10:12 AM

ya dont need 2 fire types. i reccomened losing ho-oh. If you have time to train and have someone willing to trade with you, get a dragonite and an alakazam (my alakazam basically beat most of the 4 elites pokemon). get gyarados ice fang if he hasnt got it, ditch sudowoodo, you clearly have no interest in it, and train pinsir to lvl 40-50


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