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Ho-Oh August 12th, 2010 9:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6062131)
wait, U haven't figured out that nintendo is EVIL yet?
They could give a crap who has Wi-Fi, I don't have Wi-Fi and I don't like it one bit.
Nintendo would stash away earthquake in a Wi-Fi mission if it made them money.

...you may think they're evil, but there is something called being fair. The good TMs would have at least two options to obtain them, as opposed to a TM that isn't that known/good, which would be more likely to be in this "wifi mission".

Precious Tears August 12th, 2010 10:06 AM

I love this idea--TMs don't disappear after using...
But I don't think we should put up a smile on our faces yet...
There are chances that new moves will replace some TMs,
and they can be our long-time favorite Ice Beam to the new favorite Stealth Rock :'(...
If they are really gon' change the TMs;
I just hope they'll take out the useless ones like Bullet Seed, Natural Gift etc...
Not the most fav ones!!

MegaKuriboh August 12th, 2010 10:10 AM

YESSS!!! TMs no longer break after use!!!
Thank you Game Freak!!!!!!!

Livewire August 12th, 2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6062131)
wait, U haven't figured out that nintendo is EVIL yet?
They could give a crap who has Wi-Fi, I don't have Wi-Fi and I don't like it one bit.
Nintendo would stash away earthquake in a Wi-Fi mission if it made them money.

You can get Earthquake, like, 4 different ways in HGSS, just saying.

Nintendo isnt evil either, they're a corporation, and they need to make money, just like everybody else. And a nintendo wifi connection isnt that hard to obtain.

austy14 August 12th, 2010 2:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6061584)

Yeah but then that won't cover the other water/flying types, who fit into that category but aren't birds or fish. Then that'd mean Geodude, etc, would need to naturally have strength and since they aren't creatures...

I was just using birds and fish as examples, but of course other pokemon with the ability should be able to. Like snorlax swimming, or tropius flying. And it would go to all of the HMs... like geodudes using strength and whatnot. But baybe, for whatever reason, lets say your pokemon couldn't do the skill with you untill you got a certaain badge, then you could magically surf whenever you wanted.

Human August 12th, 2010 4:33 PM

The TM's thing is a welcome change, I think. Too many TM's for common moves seen in battle - like Toxic, Earthquake, or Ice Beam - are scarcely available in the games, or cost a million BP to get.

Mr. X August 13th, 2010 12:55 PM

Good idea but will really kill competive battling.

Perhaps introducing a new class, such as STM? (Super--TM)

The current tm's would be classified by power and ability. Hyperbeam would be a STM, as would Toxic. While your weak bullet seed would be a regular tm.

Regular tms can be reused as much as you like but your STMs would be one time use.

Examples of STM's would be hyper beam, solar beam, overheat, toxic, any hp recovery moves, any ohk moves, and certian other moves.

Edit - Having the elemental hypers as tm's would be nice.

Timbjerr August 13th, 2010 1:03 PM

I see the benefits for building competitively viable wifi teams and appreciate it, but it does remove a lot of the strategy in picking and choosing attacks for you in-game team, making it a bit too easy imo. Perhaps it could be like all the TMs you get during the main quest will be standard one-time use and all the TMs you have left or that you acquire after the E4 will be infinite use. :P

Impo August 13th, 2010 4:58 PM

yaya! reusable tm's :D
they better be easy to find,
it took me forever to get explosion and earthquake in pearl
and there was only one of each :(

and i think there will be a move to make your opponent freeze,
maybe something like icy stare or something :P

Ho-Oh August 14th, 2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Impo (Post 6067841)
and i think there will be a move to make your opponent freeze,
maybe something like icy stare or something :P

Although this doesn't exactly relate to TMs, and instead moves, I agree. Though I'm sure there are other moves that can cover it...

Kanto_Johto August 14th, 2010 10:51 AM

TMs don't break when you use them. God dammit.

Am I the only one who is extremely dissapointed with this feature? They're making the games waaayyyy too easy these days.

Amore August 14th, 2010 10:54 AM

I'm guessing they'll cut down on the amount of tms.....maybe 50 again, maybe less.

I love this idea though! I'll deffo be getting the games now I know about this and seasons..


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