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Porygon Z August 9th, 2010 10:45 AM

Pokèmon Type changes!
 
So, I think that Game Freak MUST change some Pokèmon types.

First of all, Gyarados. He's a Water-FLYING type, why? WHY?
He can't even use a Flying-type move! Why? He MUST be a Water-Dragon type!

And the Porygon family, they learn a lot of Electric and Psychic moves, so making them of these two types isn't a bad idea!

What do you think about this? Who needs some type change?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 9th, 2010 10:55 AM

I don't think they will change a pokemon's type it will cause confusion to some fans...

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 10:55 AM

Gyarados is Water/Flying because of the legend that it is based on. It has also been seen flying in the anime, and can learn Bounce, which is a flying type move.

Porygon, along with many other normal types learn a lot of non-normal type moves, so that's not a good defense to change its type. Should we make Zigzagoon a Electric type because it can also learn a lot of electric type moves? No. Nothing about Zigzagoon screams Electric type. Nothing about Porygon screams Electric or Psychic type. Porygon is the first artificial Pokémon ever created. That makes it Normal to me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 9th, 2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6053458)
Gyarados is Water/Flying because of the legend that it is based on. It has also been seen flying in the anime, and can learn Bounce, which is a flying type move.

Porygon, along with many other normal types learn a lot of non-normal type moves, so that's not a good defense to change its type. Should we make Zigzagoon a Electric type because it can also learn a lot of electric type moves? No. Nothing about Zigzagoon screams Electric type. Nothing about Porygon screams Electric or Psychic type. Porygon is the first artificial Pokémon ever created. That makes it Normal to me.

I wish that it was electric at least as it's artificial but so is Mewtwo...but then again it's birth is confusing in the games due to the documents in the Cinnabar mansion...

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6053463)

I wish that it was electric at least as it's artificial but so is Mewtwo...but then again it's birth is confusing in the games due to the documents in the Cinnabar mansion...

Mewtwo is made from the DNA of Mew though, which is a Psychic type.

Porygon is completely new, made out of polyhedrals and programming code.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 9th, 2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6053477)
Mewtwo is made from the DNA of Mew though, which is a Psychic type.

Porygon is completely new, made out of polyhedrals and programming code.

Well the papers in RBY say it was given life birth...and they still kept them in the remakes...
Yeah so it should be electric as it was created using computer code which is connected to electronics...

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6053485)

Well the papers in RBY say it was given life birth...and they still kept them in the remakes...
Yeah so it should be electric as it was created using computer code which is connected to electronics...

Computer code isn't electronic, it's not even a tangible object or visible object outside a computer.

And just because it wouldn't exist without an electronic thing, that doesn't mean it itself is electronic.

Hey, I saw a human in my TV. That makes people electric type! :D

Hey, I saw a picture of a door on my monitor. That means it's made out of electricity!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 9th, 2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6053496)
Computer code isn't electronic, it's not even a tangible object or visible object outside a computer.

And just because it wouldn't exist without an electronic thing, that doesn't mean it itself is electronic.

Hey, I saw a human in my TV. That makes people electric type! :D

Hey, I saw a picture of a door on my monitor. That means it's made out of electricity!

Well computer code is what commends computers and tv and a lot of other devices what to do but I guess being pure Normal is good, I wanted Polygon Z to had been updated with a new type at least but this is gen 5 not 4 :)

Xander Olivieri August 9th, 2010 11:17 AM

Eevee was also tech. created. It was the test subject used for the Mewtwo experiments. (According to the Manga which was heavily based off of the Game in the first set)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 9th, 2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053523)
Eevee was also tech. created. It was the test subject used for the Mewtwo experiments. (According to the Manga which was heavily based off of the Game in the first set)

Alright we got off topic there sorry :)
Well I don't think any pokemon should have their types changed they are good how they are :)

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053523)
Eevee was also tech. created. It was the test subject used for the Mewtwo experiments. (According to the Manga which was heavily based off of the Game in the first set)

Eevee wasn't a creation. It may have been tested on, that doesn't mean they created it.

Makeup companies test makeup on animals. That doesn't mean they made the animals.
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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6053532)

Alright we got off topic there sorry :)
Well I don't think any pokemon should have their types changed they are good how they are :)

No one was off topic. And no one said anyone did either.

Gardenia101 August 9th, 2010 11:27 AM

Changing types isn't needed at all...

But, considering that there are no previous Pokemon in the Issue pokedex, this does not belong in the Black and White section.

Niprop August 9th, 2010 11:27 AM

Gyrados will become an uber the moment he gets Water/Dragon, which is the reason why they didn't give him the typing in the first place.

Porygon is a unique case. Though it's "DNA/brain" so to speak, is constructed entirely of programming code, it's actual physical form is suspended matter. While true, Porygon-Z has psychic powers stronger (after conversion into Psychic) then Alakazam, and very intense electric abilities, it wouldn't make much sense to make the line either type, as they don't fit the specifics of either type well. Besides, Porygon has the ability to change types, something only a few Pokémon can really muster (which might be the reason why it was typed Normal in the first place).


The only Pokemon I can see gets anything is Blastoise into Water/Steel. If Lucario can be Steel from three spikes, then Blastoise can with it's cannons.

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gardenia101 (Post 6053567)
Changing types isn't needed at all...

But, considering that there are no previous Pokemon in the Issue pokedex, this does not belong in the Black and White section.

Uh. Yes it does.

First of all, they are talking about Pokémon getting type changes in the 5th generation. This is the only 5th generation forum.

Secondly, there will be previous Pokémon in Isshu once you get the National Dex.

Gardenia101 August 9th, 2010 11:35 AM

Oh, well sorry.

But why on earth would they change the types of Pokemon? They don't really need to. And, truthfully, I think people specializing in Video game design and know way more about Pokemon than you that work in Ninteno will know more than some teenagers on a Pokemon forum about Pokemon types.

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gardenia101 (Post 6053603)
Oh, well sorry.

But why on earth would they change the types of Pokemon? They don't really need to. And, truthfully, I think people specializing in Video game design and know way more about Pokemon than you that work in Ninteno will know more than some teenagers on a Pokemon forum about Pokemon types.

Exactly.

The only Pokémon that ever changed types that I can think of would be Pokémon like Magnemite and Magneton which were changed from Electric to Electric/Steel because of the introduction of a new type.

dragoniteuser August 9th, 2010 11:45 AM

Yeah, this thread has already been opened, not too long ago...
The same answers were posted before, with which I agree! I doubt they'll change something as old, and concret-solid stable as pokemon types! If those would be changed, regardless of the pokemon which desreve other typing than usual, than practically everything else would have to change! You can't have one way without the other...

coolnick37 August 9th, 2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niprop (Post 6053570)


The only Pokemon I can see gets anything is Blastoise into Water/Steel. If Lucario can be Steel from three spikes, then Blastoise can with it's cannons.

:/ I am pretty much sure that blastoise is a water/dark type since fr/lg

Sammuthegreat August 9th, 2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6053735)
:/ I am pretty much sure that blastoise is a water/dark type since fr/lg

Er... it's definitely not.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blastoise_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

Xander Olivieri August 9th, 2010 12:12 PM

I don't think they'll Change, but do like with Magnemite and add some into secondary typing.

So far they have changed an age old Canon by giving Vaporeon a new ability, though it hasn't been confirmed that it is a permanent edited addition and holds very little to this discussion, this still leaves a very small window of possibility. Some Singular Type Pokemon can possibly get a type added to them. Though seeing as we cannot back trade, there isn't really anything that suggests that they can't change a type and keep it this way forever on.

The following list is my Personal PoV
~Voltorb and Electrode can prolly join Magnemite into the Electric/Steel group. Sure it doesn't look like a steel type, but it is said that its body is made of metal. Its also used as a Battery in Pokemon Gold/Silver and the remakes.
~Kangaskhan Normal/Ground or Normal/Rock. It really does look like it would fit with ground more and hey, Nintendo seems to like tagging things onto Normal types.
~Volbeat and Illumise Bug/Electric. really I always thought they WERE Gug/Electric until I caught on in Platinum. They definitely look like electric types to me.
~Trapinch Ground/Bug. Its an Ant. How is it NOT a Bug Pokemon?!
~Chimecho and Chingling. Normal/Psychic. They look more Normal than Pyschic type.
~Glalie. Ice/Dark. Like with the Bug couple, I didn't know it wasn't a Dark type until I caught one myself.

StratusJm August 9th, 2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053742)
I don't think they'll Change, but do like with Magnemite and add some into secondary typing.

So far they have changed an age old Canon by giving Vaporeon a new ability, though it hasn't been confirmed that it is a permanent edited addition and holds very little to this discussion, this still leaves a very small window of possibility. Some Singular Type Pokemon can possibly get a type added to them. Though seeing as we cannot back trade, there isn't really anything that suggests that they can't change a type and keep it this way forever on.

The following list is my Personal PoV
~Voltorb and Electrode can prolly join Magnemite into the Electric/Steel group. Sure it doesn't look like a steel type, but it is said that its body is made of metal. Its also used as a Battery in Pokemon Gold/Silver and the remakes.
~Kangaskhan Normal/Ground or Normal/Rock. It really does look like it would fit with ground more and hey, Nintendo seems to like tagging things onto Normal types.
~Volbeat and Illumise Bug/Electric. really I always thought they WERE Gug/Electric until I caught on in Platinum. They definitely look like electric types to me.
~Trapinch Ground/Bug. Its an Ant. How is it NOT a Bug Pokemon?!
~Chimecho and Chingling. Normal/Psychic. They look more Normal than Pyschic type.
~Glalie. Ice/Dark. Like with the Bug couple, I didn't know it wasn't a Dark type until I caught one myself.

ooh about vaporeons ability change it still has water absorb its only when you meet it in the dream world it has hydration. according to serebii pokemon in the dream world will have different abilities

Xander Olivieri August 9th, 2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6053852)
ooh about vaporeons ability change it still has water absorb its only when you meet it in the dream world it has hydration. according to serebii pokemon in the dream world will have different abilities

I know it doesn't replace. What I meant was, it isn't confirmed if Vaporeon has a new ability permanently. Like having both Water Absorb AND Hydration. We don't know if they changed the old Canon by improving them with new abilities.

Pikachu w/Levitate FTW!

StratusJm August 9th, 2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053867)
I know it doesn't replace. What I meant was, it isn't confirmed if Vaporeon has a new ability permanently. Like having both Water Absorb AND Hydration. We don't know if they changed the old Canon by improving them with new abilities.

Pikachu w/Levitate FTW!

i was just pointing it out to make sure no harm done :)

i think giving mono-ability pokemon secondary abilities would be interesting..

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 9th, 2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053867)
I know it doesn't replace. What I meant was, it isn't confirmed if Vaporeon has a new ability permanently. Like having both Water Absorb AND Hydration. We don't know if they changed the old Canon by improving them with new abilities.

Pikachu w/Levitate FTW!

That would be intresting...a Levitating Pikachu with Surf would be deadlier though :shocked:...that would be dangerous with the Light ball...

StratusJm August 9th, 2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6053896)
That would be intresting...a Levitating Pikachu with Surf would be deadlier though :shocked:...that would be dangerous with the Light ball...

that was a joke pikachu getting levitate would be like gyarrados getting cute charm -_-

dragoniteuser August 9th, 2010 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6053896)
That would be intresting...a Levitating Pikachu with Surf would be deadlier though :shocked:...that would be dangerous with the Light ball...

Please, who are you kidding..?! A Pikachu?! Seriously? Pikachu was, and will always remain a pokemon that real pokemon use to toss around when they get bored!

But that adding secondary ability isn't a bad idea, and probably will hapen for some pokemon...

StratusJm August 9th, 2010 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6053925)
Please, who are you kidding..?! A Pikachu?! Seriously? Pikachu was, and will always remain a pokemon that real pokemon use to toss around when they get bored!

But that adding secondary ability isn't a bad idea, and probably will hapen for some pokemon...

dont forget that pikachu yano, stands on the ground -_-

Xander Olivieri August 9th, 2010 1:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6053852)
ooh about vaporeons ability change it still has water absorb its only when you meet it in the dream world it has hydration. according to serebii pokemon in the dream world will have different abilities

Quote:

Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6053954)
dont forget that pikachu yano, stands on the ground -_-

Beldum floats and can be hit by Ground moves. Same as Magnemite. ^w^;; Most birds are shown as standing.

Doduo and Dodrio also stand on the ground.

Levitate Pikachu would be awesome XD.

But we need to get back on to Type Changes. XD

StratusJm August 9th, 2010 1:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053971)
Beldum floats and can be hit by Ground moves. Same as Magnemite. ^w^;; Most birds are shown as standing.

Doduo and Dodrio also stand on the ground.

Levitate Pikachu would be awesome XD.

But we need to get back on to Type Changes. XD

yes but in the case of birds most of them could just take off if an earthquake hit

and magnemite, beldum etc are just exceptions pikachu will not EVER get levitate it just wont

Charizard★ August 9th, 2010 1:15 PM

I don't think they would change any types. They are good as they are. But, thats just me.

altariaking August 9th, 2010 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6053971)
Beldum floats and can be hit by Ground moves. Same as Magnemite. ^w^;; Most birds are shown as standing.

Doduo and Dodrio also stand on the ground.

Levitate Pikachu would be awesome XD.

But we need to get back on to Type Changes. XD

coughmagnetrisecough

no types should be changed, there's no point.

Sammuthegreat August 9th, 2010 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by altariaking (Post 6054024)



no types should be changed, there's no point.

Except that Luxray should be Electric/Dark.

Cyberglass August 9th, 2010 2:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6053879)
i think giving mono-ability pokemon secondary abilities would be interesting..

That actually sounds like something they might do, since they already did that to a whole ton of Pokemon between generations 3 and 4.

altariaking August 9th, 2010 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 6054060)
Except that Luxray should be Electric/Dark.

no, it shouldn't, gamereak decide if it should be dark, the only reason there ever was any type change was because if the introduction of steel type.

Surmonter August 9th, 2010 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 6054060)
Except that Luxray should be Electric/Dark.

What? Why? There is nothing that makes him a dark type. He only learns three Dark type moves, and those are Bite, Crunch, and Theif. And tons of non-dark types (Kecleon, Feraligator, Nidoking/Nidoqueen, and so on) learn those moves.

The only thing "dark" abotu Luxray and Luxio is the color of the fur. And if that determined type, Lucario would be a Water type, Paris/Parasect would be Fire types, Drowse/Hypno would be Electric types, and so much more.

:|

Alex Dee Bestest August 9th, 2010 2:51 PM

Umm...
 
Not to be rude, but that is NEVER going to happen. They wouldn't just change something. If Gyrados is Water-Flying, even if they later decide that it doesn't seem right, they aren't going to just change something. Also, just because the Porygon family learns alot of Psychic-Electric type moves doesn't mean they should change it. When you think about it, Porygon/2/Z are Polygons. Polygons are shapes, and shapes are normal. That's why the Porygon family is Normal-Type. I personally do not think they should change the types.

Ho-Oh August 9th, 2010 4:29 PM

Haha I knew this thread was familiar. There's a thread in Pokemon General which is pretty much the same as this one. Sooo...

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