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Pumpkin Fields October 7th, 2010 10:49 AM

Kurimugen is the only dragon I would consider using. I typically don't like dragon Pokemon, aside from Dragonair, I think their designs are incredibly boring. Kurimugen just looks awesome, I can't wait to catch one.

Jaiyke October 7th, 2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 6207526)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wXfu3Du5gBI/THf82bKVDSI/AAAAAAAAAUo/0WuuJ5xMYug/s1600/Goofy.jpg



I want that Pokemon! >=O bwaaha bwaahahahaha!!!

sorry i couldn't resist...honestly xDD


Favorites are Jaroda, Doreida , Erufuun, Shibirudon, and Kojondo ='D

HaloSonic October 7th, 2010 11:01 AM

hmm... im not particuarly liking them, to be honest. i do like Zekrom and Reshiram, though.

Haza October 7th, 2010 11:37 AM

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/shiny/female/593.png
I will be using this. I love it's competitive abilities. It's my favorite Pokemon so far to use Boiling Water in a moveset. It's shiny form gives it that Ghost-Type feel too.

Devil Flamingo October 7th, 2010 11:53 AM

Yeah, at least with Altaria, my justification is, "Well, it's a bird with dragon genes, so not a full-fledged dragon, so its stats kinda make sense despite her typing as she's more like Pidgeot and less like Salamence, you know? Besides, if GF did things right, she'd be Flying/Dragon, not Dragon/Flying; idk about others but in my head Altaria is primarily a bird pogey.

There is no excuse for this thing, though. It's unevolved but so what? It doesn't look weak to me, so why the lame speed? Its stats are fine, but that speed is really not. If it needs thermals in order to fly (like raptors, I can see dragons needing those if they existed), then why not give it a Dragon-like version of Chlorophyll? Something, anything, to fix that crippling speed.

And the other issue is, how are you going to compete with it? Ursaring is one slow mofo, but not every Normal type has Ursaring's insane attack stat plus Guts, right? So actually Ursaring is a fine choice for a Normal type. But with Kuri, there is always going to be comparison between him and his fellow dragons.

You could argue Altaria gets compared all the time too, but the thing is, people find different uses for her. Natural Cure + Rest works wonders, as does Cloud Nine with Roost, and Dragon Dance works well in sync with EQ and Outrage. No Dragon has Natural Cure except her, and only Rayquaza, who is banned to Ubers, is immune to the effects of weather. So while Altaria has craptastic offenses for a Dragon, it's far from useless; she has a set of traits (including her looks) that makes her unique.

But people will not be so lenient with Kurimugan; even if our new Dragons are all banned to Ubers, that still doesn't mean Kurimugan can be used in OU where you've got everyone and their grandma packing Ice moves or otherwise super-powerful moves that will shut this thing down before it can do anything.

I really wish GF had to stopped to THINK for just one second on this one; some people may like this dragon and use it, but if you think most people are not going to go, "Hmmm, should I use Kurimugan, or should I use Dragonite, Flygon, Garchomp, Hydragon, Kingdra, Ononokusu, Salamence...?" How is that even a contest? It even gets Mold Breaker via DW, but Ononokusu already has that ability, so who's NOT going to say, "lol Kurimugan is just a bad Ononokusu". XD

It is not all hopeless if you like Kurimugan, however. There is such a thing as Trick Room which you can have Slowbro set up (I say Slowbro because he finds Ice attacks laughable, and Kurimugan resists Grass and Electric, plus has Crunch to deal with any Ghost that pesters Slowbro, plus Superpower for Dark types), or else you can switch Kuri into something that won't kill it, and use Glare on the foe (or the incoming pogey; works better than Thunder Wave 'cause Glare (yep! it gets Glare!) will paralyse anything without Limber) then proceed to hit stuff.

tl;dr - Kurimugan is not a bad Pokemon, just a bad dragon. I still don't like his design, though; I'm sticking to Altaria (in UU), Kingdra (in OU) and Reshiram (in Ubers) plz. :D

I don't know why Adeku has a Kurimugan (hey, it must be one proud Kuri, getting used by the champ) but my guessing is that if Adeku was real he'd obviously be a highly skilled trainer, and I've seen people win battles with anything from Skitty to Vespiquen, and Kuri is by far more usable than either one of those; after all, it's skills, and not the Pokemon, what really makes a trainer.

Resultz October 7th, 2010 1:30 PM

Devil Flamingo, i love reading your posts, and i agree, Kurimugan isnt at all bad. I thin he was made aesthetically though rather than for serious business.

Livewire October 7th, 2010 1:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6207842)
http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/shiny/female/593.png
I will be using this. I love it's competitive abilities. It's my favorite Pokemon so far to use Boiling Water in a moveset. It's shiny form gives it that Ghost-Type feel too.

I actually plan on getting/using both forms, because it's such a great Pokemon. I'm thoroughly impressed with the crop of Ghost Pokemon we got this generation. xD

Umbrella October 7th, 2010 2:31 PM

I love the female version. We got a ton of bugs this gen. I like them alot.

Doctor Who October 7th, 2010 2:41 PM

I think the B/W pokemon could use some slack, there's a lot of them I really like (Desukan FTW) but I'll admit that there's a few of which I'm wondering what the creators were thinking, but it's different, and different isn't always bad.

Plus more Monkey pokes >.<

loliwin October 7th, 2010 3:22 PM

I dont have any least favourites, but my favourites are definitely the three fire,water and grass monkeys. THEY ARE ADORABLEEEEE! XD

King Gumball October 7th, 2010 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6207842)
http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/shiny/female/593.png
I will be using this. I love it's competitive abilities. It's my favorite Pokemon so far to use Boiling Water in a moveset. It's shiny form gives it that Ghost-Type feel too.


I love the female shiny sprite heaps. I will use the male in the games, although.

I like how they have different crowns on their head to represent king and queen.

Tony Stark October 7th, 2010 5:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Umbrella (Post 6208154)
I love the female version. We got a ton of bugs this gen. I like them alot.

For once almost all the bugs are awesome. :D Urgamoth FTW. Ainto, or whatever, is pretty cool too, and kurumiru is adorable. :3

Ho-Oh October 7th, 2010 5:59 PM

The only bug I really love is Denchura. The others (even apparently the ugliest one, like, the purple one) actually aren't that bad as a whole, but I still dunno what I think regarding the moth.

PlatinumDude October 7th, 2010 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6208640)
The only bug I really love is Denchura. The others (even apparently the ugliest one, like, the purple one) actually aren't that bad as a whole, but I still dunno what I think regarding the moth.

I think the moth is awesome because it has one of my most awaited type combinations--Bug/Fire. It looks cool, too.

Haza October 7th, 2010 6:21 PM

I LOVE how they made so many Bug Pokemon that you can actually use this time around. Next generation the Poison-Type better get the same treatment or I'm coming at them with razor blades & lemon juice!

Seriously, this is the only Poison-Type that I like this time around... and even then I don't LOVE it.
http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/545.pnghttp://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/back/545.png

Asrodrig October 7th, 2010 6:26 PM

Emonga is my favorite! What's not to love about a flying Pakirisu?
As far as least favorite: Mamanbou.
Oh I see, it evolves from Luvdisc.
Wait, it doesn't evolve from Luvdisc.
So essentially, it's just a rehash of Luvdisc.
...
Doubleyew. Tee. Eff.

Umbrella October 7th, 2010 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6208640)
The only bug I really love is Denchura. The others (even apparently the ugliest one, like, the purple one) actually aren't that bad as a whole, but I still dunno what I think regarding the moth.

Genesect is the absolute worst legend ever. Now if it was sort of like a random pokemon that was created like Porygon that you receive, that would be nice. But for it to be the last Pokemon in the Pokedex, um no. Meloetta could take it out with a Close Combat.

o0PinkSquid0o October 7th, 2010 7:12 PM

I've decided to make a list of my favourite and Least Favourite's too!

Favourites:
http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/547.pngI absolutely Love Erufuun! I think it's the cutest Pokemon Alive, Plus sheep are my favourite animals! ;) I currently have her on my team, I do find it a little on the weak side but I love it anyway

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/555-unblue.pngHihidaruma is Tied in first place as one of my favourites, He's so strong and mostly faster than any pokemon I face in the game, he's currently my strongest pokemon at lv 60 and I love him to bits, plus his grin is so evil its awesome!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/501.pngI just like him coz he's cute and unloved, also his last evo is awesome.

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/565.pngI love this guy, he's like an awesome Quagsire! Good defense, Sturdy as an ability is awesome and he only has one weakness!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/579.pngI've never actually used this pokemon but I really love his design, so he's one of my favs in that regard.

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/609.pngI adore Shandera! A fire ghost pokemon is something I have wanted for ages, I think he's a little slow but I love using him anyway, and his shiny version is awesome!!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/627.pngLove it coz it's super cute!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/630.pngAlso one of my strongest in my game atm. I find his attack power is really good and he can take a hit!

Least Favourites:

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/641.pnghttp://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/642.pnghttp://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/645.png I HATE these guys, I can't even understand them, their sprites are so lazy and their colours are ugly. they're just a waste to me.

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/632.pngJust not a fan of the design and the fact that it has no evo

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/621.pngLooks like a kid drew it and then ran out of blue colour so finished it off in red, I'm not a fan.

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/615.pngWORST pokemon ever :( It's hideous. Not sure how it works in battle tho, it might be awesome but to me its just wrong and cruel!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/598.pngI alwasy forget this thing and its preevo exist

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/594.pngIf you turned this thing on its side it'd be a loveheart with hands and feet asking for a hug, its gross.

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/576.pngNever been a fan, just don't like how it looks

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/569.pngDo I even need to say anything?

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/538.pnghttp://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/539.pngTheir ugly and kinda useless, don't like how they look, they're nothing compared to Lee and Chan, and I don't usually compare old gens with new gens.

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/537.pngYUCK, YUCK, YUCK, YUCK! This thing and the evo before it have to be my most hated pokemon ever!!!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/533.pngActually he's pretty bad too, those veins!! No thanks!

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/516.pngLast one I am going to list, coz the list is getting pretty long but ugh I don't like how this looks! whats with the hair and the dress? its just bad! Its hair reminds me of Whoopy Golberg or whatever her name is!

THE END

Umbrella October 7th, 2010 7:16 PM

The vulture is female only.

o0PinkSquid0o October 7th, 2010 7:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Umbrella (Post 6208781)
The vulture is female only.


Yeah, I didn't pay much attention to what I was writing, I even said he's, she's and it's in the same sentence

Jerme October 7th, 2010 9:22 PM

i thought antario evolved into genesect.. just a random thought

King Gumball October 7th, 2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6208679)
I LOVE how they made so many Bug Pokemon that you can actually use this time around. Next generation the Poison-Type better get the same treatment or I'm coming at them with razor blades & lemon juice!

Seriously, this is the only Poison-Type that I like this time around... and even then I don't LOVE it.
http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/545.pnghttp://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/back/545.png


A centipede pokemon :) Bout time. Although it looks like a squishy centipede..... Eww.

I like the http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/542.pngbetter. Preying Mantis FTW!!!

Surmonter October 8th, 2010 2:43 AM

http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/576.pngNew favorite Pokemon. XD It is obviously the Lady Gaga of Pokemon. :P

Volroc October 8th, 2010 3:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6207340)


This one? ^

Well compared to Ononokusu and Sazandoraa, no. Its thoroughly outclassed in terms of Stats and move pool. Think of it as a Gen V. Altaria, it just doesn't compare to the other dragons in its generation. :/

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Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo (Post 6207619)


Nooope. There is one reason for this, and one reason only (hint: it's a stat).

Let's analyse the speed of every Dragon Pokemon ever:

80, 85, 90, 95, 97, 98, 100, 102, 110 vs 48

Altaria & Dragonite sit at the lowest (80), followed by Kingdra's 85 (doubled when SS activates, and Rain is going to be more common this gen, so take note of this), then we have four legends with 90 speed (Dialga, Giratina, Reshiram, Zekrom) and two slightly faster legends (Rayquaza, Kyurem) with 95 speed. Our two non-legend dragons this gen (Ononokusu & Hydragon) are slightly faster with 97 and 98 respectively, and then we have Flygon, Salamance and Palkia with 100 speed. Finally, we have the three fastest Dragons of all time with 102 (Garchomp) and 110 ([email protected]).

"WHAT DOES THIS MEANNNN???"

It means Kurimugan is the first NU Dragon of all time. 77/90/90 defenses aren't gonna cut it; even Altaria outclasses this thing, which is just sad.

WHEN ALTARIA OUTCLASSES YOU, YOU KNOW IT IN YOUR HEART YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AS A DRAGON. If played right, Altaria can beat this thing, and despite her craptastic offenses, only a fool would choose Kurimugan over Altaria to use in the lower tiers.

I feel so bad for this thing (GF hates it), I can't even express myself properly. Its attack doesn't mean a thing and neither does its defenses; if you're going to be the slowest Dragon OF ALL TIME, you need to have Giratina-esque defenses or you'll be outclassed, outsped and killed by every other Dragon plus anything packing Ice Beam or strong Ice moves, like Skill Link Icicle Spear Cloyster (which WILL kill this thing because it's faster, and Icicle Spear is a dangerously powerful move when used by Cloyster, period).

"Well, there must be something it can do...?"

XD No. At least Altaria has Natural Cure/Cloud Nine, bulk and access to Dragon Dance which works well with said bulk, but this thing can't Dragon Dance, its abilities are meh, and yes, if it hits you, it'll put a dent for sure (120 Attack is great, although almost every other Dragon has it better) but that'll be about it. It will get hit hard, dish out one hit, then get killed.

I don't even hate it; I don't hate any Dragon Pokemon as of date, although most of them definitely don't interest me. But the thing that gets me is just how not good this thing is. It may not be bad compared to Delcatty, but by Dragon standards, this thing is a joke, an abomination, a one leg one arm soldier. XD If those 90 defenses were on his HP and Speed respectively instead of its defenses, it'd have a chance, but as it is? Hell no. XD

seriously why are yall insulting Altaria? clearly you both dont have any idea how to use it, or youd be saying its way overpowered, my altaria is a ***** to kill cuz its got the highest defenses out of all non-uber dragons, even higher than the pseudo-legends, EV it in defenses, & it aint dying anytime soon,combine that with natural cure, bam, both poison& burn became useless
id like to see Garchomp survive an ice beam :cer_laugh: my altaria can, i dont see any other dragon types doing that :P

plus that is the retard dragon, whoever was smoking something when they made that shouldve switched that with its shiny, the shiny looks far better.

now dont insult Altaria again,or ill dust off my platinum& hand you,&your entire teams ass with her.

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Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6209011)

A centipede pokemon :) Bout time. Although it looks like a squishy centipede..... Eww.

I like the http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/542.pngbetter. Preying Mantis FTW!!!

*points to Scyther* THATS a preying mantis, THIS is a:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/LeafInsect.jpg/220px-LeafInsect.jpg

Livewire October 8th, 2010 6:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6209212)
http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/576.pngNew favorite Pokemon. XD It is obviously the Lady Gaga of Pokemon. :P

xD I will now catch one and name it Lady Gaga. I was impartial to it before, but It's alright. n__n I don't really care for ranculus either, but at least Gochizeru has an awesome look-a like.


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