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austy14 August 16th, 2010 1:08 PM

B & W Elite 4
 
The Original Speculation:
Spoiler:
Ok, we know Gyms will have other purposes like real life, sorta like Aloe's being a resturant. But what will the E4 be like, just another building with trainers in it? I hope they do something fun with it. Also, types. What types should they have? I saw this on Bulbapedia article about the Elite Four:
Quote:

The only types not yet represented by an Elite Four member are Rock, Grass, Normal, Flying, and Electric.
That leaves exactly 5 types... like the Elite Four and a Champion! So leave your ideas!


EDIT 6/16/10:

The E4 have been revealed. Here is what I got from Serebii:

First Elite Four member; Shikimi; She has Level 48 Desukan, Lv. 48 Burunkeru, Lv. 48 Goruggo and Lv. 50 Shandeera. She is a Ghost trainer

Second Elite Four member; Giima; He has a Lv. 48 Zuruzukin, Lv. 48 Warubiaru, Lv. 48 Leparudusu & Lv. 50 Kirikizan. He is a Dark trainer

Third Elite Four member; She has a Lv. 48 Rankurusu, Lv. 48 Musharna, Lv. 48 Shinbora and Lv. 50 Gochiruzeru. She is a Psychic trainer

Final Elite Four member; Renbu; He has a Lv. 48 Nageki, Lv. 48 Dageki, Lv. 48 Roopushin & Lv. 50 Kojondo. He is a Fighting trainer

Belle is the champion. She has Lv. 66 Murando, Lv. 66 Yanakki, Lv. 66 Musharna & Lv. 70 Starter.

^So, whataya think? :D

Kevin August 16th, 2010 1:15 PM

I thought for a second that they revealed them x_X
I'm hoping for a Grass-type Elite Four member. A gardener girl thing. xD

PaxAmericana August 16th, 2010 2:12 PM

Fire elite four member( The girl that dressed up like flint in the anime)

Kanto_Johto August 16th, 2010 3:52 PM

Yeah, I saw that a while ago too. Lance may as well be a Flying type member as well as a Dragon one.

An E4 I'd like to see:

Member 1: Rock type
Member 2: Electric type
Member 3: Normal type
Member 4: Steel type
Champion: Poison type

Actually, it might be nice to see another Rival Champion, but a Poison Champion would be better.

Iron Mankey August 16th, 2010 5:07 PM

Actually, an idea I've had brewing in my head since Gen 3 was that once you beat the Champion (and thus, consequently, become the new Champion) that you'd get calls from random Trainers who would come and challenge YOU.

Hope B&W includes some sorta feature like this. It'd be great to have a steady stream of capable combatants in-game after completing the main storyline.

Charizard★ August 16th, 2010 5:30 PM

I really don't care what the types are. I just hope they put up a challenge for me this time :/

Planetes. August 16th, 2010 5:57 PM

okay guys now think about this for a second: Isshu is definetley different than they other regions, as is its Pokemon League since the gyms are in castles, amusement parks, restuarants, etc. What if the league was a Tournament like in the Anime? I would love it and consider it very possible

Eternal Nightmare August 16th, 2010 6:01 PM

They need another fire E4 member. Flint didn't even use complete Fire types for goods sake. But other than that a Normal E4 member seems bizzare but I like it to tell the truth. As long as they are better than the E4 of the past 4 gens I'm content.

Ho-Oh August 16th, 2010 6:17 PM

Just so you guys know, tournament-style battling for the elite four can be discussed here. Let's keep this thread for type/e4 members, etc, only. :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 16th, 2010 8:04 PM

I hope the E4 can be seen hanging outside of the Pokemon league HQ like Flint and Lucian in Gen 4 :)
The champ will be seen outside for sure I bet like in gens 1,2,3, and 4 :P
I just hope they show all four Elites not just two like in DPPt :)

Sora's Nobody August 16th, 2010 9:27 PM

What i would like to see is the elite 4 (gym leaders too)having their own house places in the region. and also the type remaining thing. The leader never has set type of pokemon

ACE9 August 17th, 2010 1:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Mankey (Post 6078083)
Actually, an idea I've had brewing in my head since Gen 3 was that once you beat the Champion (and thus, consequently, become the new Champion) that you'd get calls from random Trainers who would come and challenge YOU.

Hope B&W includes some sorta feature like this. It'd be great to have a steady stream of capable combatants in-game after completing the main storyline.

Haha, I always though of that too. It doesnt make sense to beat the E4 then everyone just forgets and never challenges the new champion.

They could randomly generate trainers with like lv50-70 pokes final evolution pokes. Not saying they have to have evos, just so that you dont end up fighting oddishes and rattatas. They call you up, and you meet them at the E4 Champion room and battle. They could also throw in like important characters like Ash, Gary Oak, Red and more(I dont watch the anime) with their corresponding teams.

Pokestick, good times. August 17th, 2010 1:54 AM

I'd love to see the introduction of Flying in the Elite Four, and Steel making a comeback I would gladly approve of :D

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Mankey (Post 6078083)
Actually, an idea I've had brewing in my head since Gen 3 was that once you beat the Champion (and thus, consequently, become the new Champion) that you'd get calls from random Trainers who would come and challenge YOU.

Hope B&W includes some sorta feature like this. It'd be great to have a steady stream of capable combatants in-game after completing the main storyline.

That would be cool, but how would you re-battle them? Well anyways I really hope for an Electric-type E4, cus Electric is my favorite, and a normal one beacuse Whitney was actually pretty tough. Though, more of a challenge than annoying. And still don't now why Lance is Dragon when 3 of his pokemon are Dragon, while all are flying.

coolnick37 August 17th, 2010 6:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6078797)
I hope the E4 can be seen hanging outside of the Pokemon league HQ like Flint and Lucian in Gen 4 :)
The champ will be seen outside for sure I bet like in gens 1,2,3, and 4 :P
I just hope they show all four Elites not just two like in DPPt :)

Id love that, but dont forget fire red leaf green had Lorlei in sevii islands hanging around (she wasnt much fun though :P)

o.o I never even figured that champions had a special type that they use except Lance.

Volroc August 17th, 2010 9:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny Demon (Post 6077511)
I thought for a second that they revealed them x_X
I'm hoping for a Grass-type Elite Four member. A gardener girl thing. xD

we got like 40 of those no thank you, if they do a grass-type i want a man itd be funny to see a male grass type trainer :P

im hopin NO SINGLE TYPES, that **** makes it way to easy.

i want all of them to be using an assortment of types, making it FAR more challenging

empoleonXD August 17th, 2010 9:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6080197)
we got like 40 of those no thank you, if they do a grass-type i want a man itd be funny to see a male grass type trainer :P

im hopin NO SINGLE TYPES, that **** makes it way to easy.

i want all of them to be using an assortment of types, making it FAR more challenging

i agree with one type its less challinging........

austy14 August 17th, 2010 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6080197)
we got like 40 of those no thank you, if they do a grass-type i want a man itd be funny to see a male grass type trainer :P

im hopin NO SINGLE TYPES, that **** makes it way to easy.

i want all of them to be using an assortment of types, making it FAR more challenging

Well maybe not total random style, but maybe duo types? But unique combos. Like Grass and Ice. Fire and Water. Dark and Psycic. Electric and Ghost. Then the champion... normal type!

Tyxomm August 17th, 2010 11:10 AM

Elite Four:
1# Grass
2# Fire
3# Water
4# Electric
Champ# Rock/Steel

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6080504)
Well maybe not total random style, but maybe duo types? But unique combos. Like Grass and Ice. Fire and Water. Dark and Psycic. Electric and Ghost. Then the champion... normal type!

I proposed this same Idea in an old thread, I would love duo types, half of the team is this, the other is that, eventually we will have to make a team to take down 8, no 10 counting the champion, which will make it leagues harder :)

TCB August 17th, 2010 12:27 PM

I hope for Flying, Electric, Ground/Grass, and Steel Elite Four trainers. I also hope the Champion has varied types. Besides Lance, I didn't go for Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald champion types.

PaxAmericana August 17th, 2010 12:59 PM

Flying
or Electric all the way

MegaKuriboh August 17th, 2010 1:02 PM

I want

#1 Grass
#2 Water
#3 Electric
#4 Fire
Champion: Mixed types but at least one fire, Grass, Electric and Water type pokemon

Perfect E4

PaxAmericana August 17th, 2010 1:17 PM

wish we knew more about the ELITE 4

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:20 PM

You know how the Pokemon League is shown as a castle in D/P/Pt, what if was a castle agin in B/W, but AN ACTUAL CASTLE! And the E4 could be the Princes/Princesses and the Champion a double battle with the King/Queen! Seems like a storybook, but I kinda like the idea.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 4:24 PM

I got an Idea what if they make the E4 after the seasons, Grass-spring, Fire-Summer, Flying- Fall, and Ice- Winter, as for the Champion...give them Rock type, the type that has always been the first for the gyms is now the type for the Champ, talk about Irony :P

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081345)
I got an Idea what if they make the E4 after the seasons, Grass-spring, Fire-Summer, Flying- Fall, and Ice- Winter, as for the Champion...give them Rock type, the type that has always been the first for the gyms is now the type for the Champ, talk about Irony :P

That would be cool! Then each room could be themed after the season. And each trainer could have a shinjika (the deer, no idea exactly what its name is XD) evolution (if they make one). And the champ randomly could have some kick-ass Magikarp!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 4:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6081375)
That would be cool! Then each room could be themed after the season. And each trainer could have a shinjika (the deer, no idea exactly what its name is XD) evolution (if they make one). And the champ randomly could have some kick-ass Magikarp!

Yeah that was what I had in mind :), More like a evolution of Gyrados :P

austy14 August 17th, 2010 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081378)
Yeah that was what I had in mind :), More like a evolution of Gyrados :P

No, a team of 6 magikarp.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6081817)
No, a team of 6 magikarp.

Ha, Maybe if it was the ancient Magikarp which were stronger...I wish we had that as a fossil...

austy14 August 17th, 2010 7:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081920)
Ha, Maybe if it was the ancient Magikarp which were stronger...I wish we had that as a fossil...

So an E4 champ with epic Magikarp that sorta magically know TMs to own any Pokemon to get in his/her way. I would so rofl if one of the E4 was a little kid. Phoebe was pushing it...

Tyxomm August 18th, 2010 2:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081920)
Ha, Maybe if it was the ancient Magikarp which were stronger...I wish we had that as a fossil...

I give you Terakarp:
http://a.imageshack.us/img9/7379/terakarp.png

note: Flint had only two fire type pokemon.
I don't really call that an elite fire type trainer..........................

Ho-Oh August 18th, 2010 3:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6081817)
No, a team of 6 magikarp.

Yes, because that's totally going to happen.

But a Shikijika evolution for each e4 member? That actually sounds somewhat possible. Actually, I would love that.

coolnick37 August 18th, 2010 3:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081345)
I got an Idea what if they make the E4 after the seasons, Grass-spring, Fire-Summer, Flying- Fall, and Ice- Winter, as for the Champion...give them Rock type, the type that has always been the first for the gyms is now the type for the Champ, talk about Irony :P

Thats a nice idea, although fire isnt exactly summers type, more probably water, and as for fall, maybeh ground or sumthing.
They just might do that, awww i cant w8 to see the layout of their rooms if they do *.*

rainbow August 18th, 2010 4:01 AM

I'd like the league (If one) to be full of puzzles, tricks and traps.
Warp portals, trapdoors, that sort of thing.
Like one big hard gym puzzle.

Giratina ♀ August 18th, 2010 4:41 AM

Explorer of Destiny, isn't that what Victory Road is for?

Anyway, I don't think that it needs to be a team of six Haxikarp, I believe Lance was a major offender back in the day and nobody wants to repeat that spectacle. Anyhow, I like the season idea, but frankly I'm cool with whatever they try to put out there. As long as the characters are interesting and the battles are fun, I don't mind who they train.

rainbow August 18th, 2010 10:54 AM

yeah, but you are missing my point.
I'm saying that each elite four room, rather than just oh-ill-walk-up-to-him-and-talk-to-him, should be a puzzle.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 18th, 2010 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6082564)
Thats a nice idea, although fire isnt exactly summers type, more probably water, and as for fall, maybeh ground or sumthing.
They just might do that, awww i cant w8 to see the layout of their rooms if they do *.*

Really? I just thought fire because it's very hot where I live, and there are wild fires in summer in Russia,Oregon, and California,etc. so I have always seen summer as fire...

Weavile05 August 18th, 2010 11:11 AM

Please no Monotype champs. The champion is a trainer just like you who has beaten the E4, he should not have a type theme unless he moved up from gym leader or E4 member, which was true with Lance and Wallace (steven was not completely dual type, though he did have a sort of mineral vibe coming off of him.)

austy14 August 18th, 2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Explorer Of Destiny (Post 6082590)
I'd like the league (If one) to be full of puzzles, tricks and traps.
Warp portals, trapdoors, that sort of thing.
Like one big hard gym puzzle.

That would be tons of fun! There should totally be one in a giant labyrinth.

rainbow August 18th, 2010 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6083752)
Really? I just thought fire because it's very hot where I live, and there are wild fires in summer in Russia,Oregon, and California,etc. so I have always seen summer as fire...

The Pakistan floodings don't exactly help back up your theory, but I kind of agree with MRAS.

gregory_turner420 September 9th, 2010 9:24 AM

i kinda wanted a double battle two elites in one room like the psy. gym from hoen, only using flying types

vibratingcat September 9th, 2010 11:28 PM

Post Elite Four
 
Not sure if this thread has already been made but what do people think will happen after you beat the Elite Four?
It's official that we will only be seeing new pokemon until the end of the game but i'm guessing that there will be a way for us to see and catch old pokemon afterwoulds.
will we be able to go to a new area? new items?
discuss

Ho-Oh September 9th, 2010 11:35 PM

Read the announcement. No speculation threads. Merging with the elite four thread, because although it doesn't directly relate, it only really fits in here. Discussing what happens after the Elite Four won't fit anywhere else so yeah. D:

Nugg September 10th, 2010 12:55 AM

Wouldn't it be cool if for the E4, they don't put it that ... is about to send in ... thing. So it'd be FAR more challenging not knowing what they're gonna be sending out next :D

Edit : And they should randomly generate the order which we battle them!!! whoot!

Shinjiro September 10th, 2010 1:22 AM

Rock, Grass, Flying, Normal, and Electric? Its actually nice idea to me. Well, At least this is my thoughts :
- Rock : Female.
- Flying : Male.
- Normal : Male.
- Electric : Female.
- Grass : Female.

That's all I guess.

MrGriszell September 10th, 2010 2:41 AM

I will like it that after the first time you beat them you wont have to go thru the hall of fame stuff, and the credits wont come up.

Shinjiro September 10th, 2010 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 6142492)
I will like it that after the first time you beat them you wont have to go thru the hall of fame stuff, and the credits wont come up.

You mean like theres still some events remain after you beat them? Epic that is. To think that Isshu is finally confirmed as somewhere in USA, There's a chance that some of the Elite Fours would be a black people like Aloe, Or perhaps, An American military soldier like Lt.Surge.

Master Krillin September 10th, 2010 1:22 PM

I don't know if anyone else said this but I think the Elites shouldn't be type restricted they should have multitype teams like normal trainers who have fought there way to the top and the champ would be your rival that would be perfect

Shinjiro September 10th, 2010 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Krillin (Post 6143658)
I don't know if anyone else said this but I think the Elites shouldn't be type restricted they should have multitype teams like normal trainers who have fought there way to the top and the champ would be your rival that would be perfect

I'm thinking Iris would be the champ. Seeing she appear in the game, Makes me think like she could be a special trainer. Perhaps, Hold some powerful Pokemon on her.

Hazeh September 10th, 2010 4:53 PM

I'd love to see the 4 as Ice, Flying, Fire and maybe Grass, and the Champion as Electric. With a variety of multitypes mixed in, of course, but those would be the common denominator for each team. Make each room a puzzle revolving around that type, and voila! A perfect Elite 4. Maybe not a puzzle for the Champion, but something cool like... idk. xD

Mista T September 10th, 2010 6:43 PM

I'd like theme-based teams rather than type-based. For example, the theme could be gluttony, and the member might have Snorlax, Swalot, Shuckle (ability), etc. (I know there are no previous Pokes, that was an example.)

PlatinumDude September 10th, 2010 7:27 PM

Here's what I think:
First: Ice
Second: Dark
Third: Electric
Fourth: Steel
Champion: mixed types

austy14 September 10th, 2010 8:32 PM

OMG, what if Lt. Surge was an E4 member? If Isshu is, in fact, based on New York, then it could be part of America too, and Lt. Surge went home to Isshu to be in the Elite 4.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 10th, 2010 8:35 PM

Well some of the types not being used for gyms this gen are: Dark, Rock, Psychic, or Poison-type Gyms according to Pokebeach so maybe those could be the E4 types :)

Gilgαmesh September 10th, 2010 8:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6144744)
OMG, what if Lt. Surge was an E4 member? If Isshu is, in fact, based on New York, then it could be part of America too, and Lt. Surge went home to Isshu to be in the Elite 4.

I would personally like the Isshu region to stay as far away as the other regions, especially Kanto since it's been done like five thousand times and stuff. I believe that it'll have new E4 members with a completely new E4 champion. :D

I can't wait to see who the champion is though. I know that it'll be someone you encounter at multiple points throughout the game, since that always seems to be the pattern within the games.

Shinjiro September 10th, 2010 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6144744)
OMG, what if Lt. Surge was an E4 member? If Isshu is, in fact, based on New York, then it could be part of America too, and Lt. Surge went home to Isshu to be in the Elite 4.

That's what I've said actually. Or perhaps, A similar character as him would appear. Or maybe a scary looking character! Wooohoo!

Planetes. September 10th, 2010 8:39 PM

well, not sure if you guys like it or not (since ppl Lurv teh dragons, even thought it would be the third time) but the final e4 may be a dragon tamer named murou, according to pokejungle, who has been crazy-accurate lately. There is rumoured to be 12 dragons in Isshu (minus the 3 legend ones) that's still 9 Dragons. We know Ononokusu is strong and there is a rumored dark/dragon hydra, so we'll have to see.

austy14 September 10th, 2010 9:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6144762)
well, not sure if you guys like it or not (since ppl Lurv teh dragons, even thought it would be the third time) but the final e4 may be a dragon tamer named murou, according to pokejungle, who has been crazy-accurate lately. There is rumoured to be 12 dragons in Isshu (minus the 3 legend ones) that's still 9 Dragons. We know Ononokusu is strong and there is a rumored dark/dragon hydra, so we'll have to see.

NO! Dragon has been overused in the elite 4. I'm sorry... just no. Maybe one dragon pokemon. If the champion is Iris, I could see her having the kibago evolution.

King Gumball September 11th, 2010 12:14 AM

Dragons aren't over used in the E4

Cynthia had a Garchomp, Lance had all his crappy annoying Dragonite's and Drake had like Shelgons and Salamence's. There weren't many dragons used (not that there were very much variety) And Gyarados isn't a dragon type so it doesn't count.

Since there will be so many dragon types in Isshu there will be certainly a Dragon type in either the E4 or the last gym leader (Dragons are too strong to be gym 1-7) And I would prefer it in the E4 as I want a major challenge.

austy14 September 11th, 2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6145210)
Dragons aren't over used in the E4

Cynthia had a Garchomp, Lance had all his crappy annoying Dragonite's and Drake had like Shelgons and Salamence's. There weren't many dragons used (not that there were very much variety) And Gyarados isn't a dragon type so it doesn't count.

Since there will be so many dragon types in Isshu there will be certainly a Dragon type in either the E4 or the last gym leader (Dragons are too strong to be gym 1-7) And I would prefer it in the E4 as I want a major challenge.

Well there has been a dragon trainer in all but one:

Gen I: Lance
Gen II: Lance, again; though champion
Gen III: Drake
Gen IV: None, though Cynthia had one, which wasn't bad.

So I just think with there being a dragon trainer in 3/4 regions is just like people hate rock being the first gym in 3/4 regions. But there's no rock gym, so I doubt there will be a dragon E4 member.

Corruptodile September 11th, 2010 2:36 PM

They should have a few of the types that you've noted are not in the E4, but not all of them. I think there should be an Electric, Grass, Flying and Water type, with the Champion being miscellaneous, like Blue or Cynthia.

King Gumball September 11th, 2010 4:15 PM

I wonder if they will have an E4 member as a triple battle. It seems unlikely that there will be a triple battle in the gyms as there are already 3 gym leaders in the first gym (even though you dont have a 3 way btattle with them) so it would be very unlikely that there would be another gym with three leaders.

When they introduced double battle's in R/S they had Tate and Liza as double leaders. so I pray that there will be a triple E4 member.

austy14 September 11th, 2010 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6147622)
I wonder if they will have an E4 member as a triple battle. It seems unlikely that there will be a triple battle in the gyms as there are already 3 gym leaders in the first gym (even though you dont have a 3 way btattle with them) so it would be very unlikely that there would be another gym with three leaders.

When they introduced double battle's in R/S they had Tate and Liza as double leaders. so I pray that there will be a triple E4 member.

That does seem cool! But I doubt it :/ Gym, yes, but not E4... Though a champion triple battle? Maybe. But battling the E4 2 at a time would be cool!

Planetes. September 11th, 2010 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6144810)
NO! Dragon has been overused in the elite 4. I'm sorry... just no. Maybe one dragon pokemon. If the champion is Iris, I could see her having the kibago evolution.

I sublty stated that its been overused.

Cameo September 11th, 2010 5:55 PM

Personally I'm more than sick and tired of those E4 members who only use dragon pokémon. In Kanto it was exciting and challenging to face Lance who was supposedly this great dragon tamer and stuff. Johto had Clair as the final gym leader which was quite nice because of her Kingdra and stuff but then it was revealed that Lance had become the champion and it started to feel pretty boring. And finally in Generation III in Hoenn's E4 we had a new member called Drake who AGAIN used those dragon pokémon. And FINALLY IN SINNOH we have this cool pokémon champion and what does she use as her signature pokémon?! HUH? ANYONE?! A freakin' dragon pokémon called Garchomp that was listed as an über and became one of the most OU pokémon ever. So yeah, I am literally full of those dragon gym leaders (though there have been only one gym leader) and those other trainers so it is no stunner at all that I will hate it if the new regional champion is going to use any dragon pokémon. Or if there will be any E4 members using dragon-type.

I also wish that the unrevealed E4 won't have both Dark and Ice as their usage because we have had them both twice already. To remind you both Lorelei and Glacia were using Ice-type while Karen and Sidney used Dark-type. In Hoenn they were in the same league so it was way too easy because they both have weakness for Fighting-type. That's why I wish they'd add something like Water, Grass, Normal, Electric, Steel or Ghost in to the Isshu League so we would have something new for a while. I'm really tired to see those same kind and really easy beaten trainers when they are supposed to be the best in the whole region.

Weavile05 September 11th, 2010 6:10 PM

1st: Blue
2nd: Lance (sorry dragon haters)
3rd: Steven
4th: Cynthia
5th: New Isshu Champion

Either that or a place where you can battle the champions of each Region.

Cameo September 11th, 2010 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 6147875)
1st: Blue
2nd: Lance (sorry dragon haters)
3rd: Steven
4th: Cynthia
5th: New Isshu Champion

Either that or a place where you can battle the champions of each Region.

Oh, I just hate you right now. :DD No, just joking around. But yeah, in the same time it would be cool to get to fight all those previous champions but there's no chance that'll get to happen. Isshu is said to be really far off from other regions so it is really unlikely that champions will leave from their own regions to Isshu so we can fight them few times. Though these are just games there must be some logic and boundaries or it is just way too annoying and the excitement is completely lost. That's why I believe they won't let us battle other champions.

austy14 September 11th, 2010 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 6147875)
1st: Blue
2nd: Lance (sorry dragon haters)
3rd: Steven
4th: Cynthia
5th: New Isshu Champion

Either that or a place where you can battle the champions of each Region.

That would be great if you could battle them all! They could be at some champion meeting and you could like battle them XD; but wouldn't the player character be the champion now? :o;;; but I hope you can battle the isshu e4 outside of the league, like flint did. It was cool :D

PokémonMasterX September 12th, 2010 1:26 AM

1: Electric
2: Flying
3: Rock
4: Grass
Champion: Mixed

solarowl September 12th, 2010 8:55 PM

1st: electric
2nd: Steel
3rd: Normal would be cool.
4th: Ice
Champ: Mixed

Has anyone ever thought of having E4 special rules? Like nintendo adds a bonus like double battles, or maybe Use 3 pokemon or something. That would be cool if there was one E4 member who was like the strongest double battler or something. And the champion is a regular battle. But I guess this would get rid of a special seriousness people feel when battling E4.
That would be a cool I dea if you could face champions of different regions. I would love that!

Lunamewtwo September 12th, 2010 8:58 PM

I'd like to see a grass type E4 member. Quite lacking

yossarian September 13th, 2010 1:07 AM

Wasn't Bruno in Gen I a rock master?

Anyway, the ones that I'll like to see are Grass, Normal and Flying.

1) Grass
2) Normal
3) Flying
4) Electric

5) Champ - Mix of all with the standard pseudo legendary Dragon Pokemon

MrGriszell September 13th, 2010 1:41 AM

1 Grass (with 3 pokemon withe high spc df, df. and attacks that bring your stats down)(1 Pokemon with insane speed that elavates his stats then use baton pass to bring out the finale pokemon with high water,electric, fire and grass attacks)
2 Dark pokemon (with high speed that can use fire attacks and moves to raise teams defence sharply.)
3 Dragon pokemon with fire attacks(2 with good defence stats,3 with crazy attack)
4 variouse type pokemon (with moves like mirror coat and counter)
Champion. Variouse types( 1 Oppiste to your starter, 2 electric pokemon(one offence,one defence)1 Crazy awsome flying type. and 2 legendarys)

RulerArceus September 13th, 2010 3:10 AM

OOOOHHH!I Have one!
1.Electric
2.Ghost
3.Rock
4.Steel
5.Champion Mixed:Random Legendary Pokemon:Zorua/Victini.

[Your Name Here] September 13th, 2010 3:22 AM

I think there should be a mixed-type champion, with at least one type being dark. Dragon-type Pokémon are overused now.

Clefairies September 13th, 2010 4:28 AM

I agree, Dragon type Pokemon are over-used.
Maybe one of the E4 members or trainers could have a couple Draogn Pokemon?
I would love the E4 members to not specialise in one type, it'd make the battles interesting.

Shinjiro September 13th, 2010 7:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulerArceus (Post 6151433)
OOOOHHH!I Have one!
1.Electric
2.Ghost
3.Rock
4.Steel
5.Champion Mixed:Random Legendary Pokemon:Zorua/Victini.

I thought Zorua isn't a legendary, The one you've said. And I think they should stop making Dragon user in Elite 4 (I've had enough!). Plus, This is the first Main Pokemon game that start in somewhere of USA. So they probably/have to add some American Pokemon creatures like Wargle and many more that hasn't reveal yet.

PaxAmericana September 13th, 2010 1:01 PM

Elite Four Setup:

E4 1: Electric
E4 2: Grass
E4 3: Water
E4 4: Fire
Champion: Flying

Neelh September 14th, 2010 8:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6080504)
Well maybe not total random style, but maybe duo types? But unique combos. Like Grass and Ice. Fire and Water. Dark and Psycic. Electric and Ghost. Then the champion... normal type!

YES.

NORMAL-TYPE CHAMPION.

DO WANT.

But all his Pokemon would need to know Foresight...

RulerArceus September 14th, 2010 9:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjiro (Post 6151676)
I thought Zorua isn't a legendary, The one you've said. And I think they should stop making Dragon user in Elite 4 (I've had enough!). Plus, This is the first Main Pokemon game that start in somewhere of USA. So they probably/have to add some American Pokemon creatures like Wargle and many more that hasn't reveal yet.

Zorua IS'NT?I didn't know that!Plus,I'm only 15% American(I Get My Games From England,I'm partly from there,But I do NOT live there. So I don't know What the hell Wargle is.Plus,When the Hell Did I say DragonTypes?You can Read,Right?

PsychoJigglypuff September 14th, 2010 12:33 PM

@RulerArceus: Well only the part where he pointed out that Zorua wasn't a legendary was directed at you. The rest was him just stating his opinion.

thedestinedblade September 14th, 2010 7:15 PM

Wouldn't mind if N was the champion, but going by his story, he doesn't seem to be into competitive battling.

Mista T September 14th, 2010 7:53 PM

@RulerArceus: Wargle is a bald eagle Pokemon that has been introduced as a Pokemon from Isshu. If you want to see a picture, there is one in the notices at the top of this page.

Boarbeque September 14th, 2010 8:05 PM

I want to see a hair style related leader/e4 guy.

austy14 September 14th, 2010 8:15 PM

Whataya mean by hair style related? :X
But so far I do like everyone's hair XD

RulerArceus September 15th, 2010 2:59 AM

@PschoJigglyPuff
IDK.Dragon Types arent ALL Bad,And I don't know why,But Have an odd disliking against Dragon Haters.I thinks its because 4 Pokemon in my Best Team ever are Dragons(See Trainer Card Below.

Totaldile September 15th, 2010 11:27 AM

I'm thinking The Champion will have Zoroark and Ononokusu/the pseudo-legend.
The pseudo's usually dragon so, I'm going with mixed types.

thedestinedblade September 15th, 2010 5:22 PM

So Poison, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Fighting, Ghost are the types that available after the revealing of the gym leaders today. I think with the number of fighting types, I think an E4 member of that type is a given, possibly the last member. It's hard seeing a Poison type because of the lack this generation, but Steel and Psychic are a possibility. I'm still hoping N happens to be the champion although I think there's a small chance for that.

Maxite September 15th, 2010 8:10 PM

If I had to guess the type of the Champion, I would say mixed. An ideal type for me, would be Rock. Why? Because in most regions (with Johto being the lone exception), Rock is the first "boss type". The first gym leader in most regions specializes in rock. I think for once the Champion, the final [main] boss in the game wielding the Rock type would an interesting mix-up.

Barring that, I wouldn't mind if the Champion focused more on a strategy than a typing. Say he specialized in having a nice sweeping team, or having a team dedicated to walling or stalling opponents. It'd be just as nice as him having a specialized type.

Shinjiro September 16th, 2010 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulerArceus (Post 6154488)
Zorua IS'NT?I didn't know that!Plus,I'm only 15% American(I Get My Games From England,I'm partly from there,But I do NOT live there. So I don't know What the hell Wargle is.Plus,When the Hell Did I say DragonTypes?You can Read,Right?

Yeah, I can read. Gosh, What a madness. Have you ever heard of Controlling your own temper? And I didn't even said that you've thought about a Dragon type for Elite Four. I'm saying enough of Dragon type, I don't Quote you for that either. So, I think you've misunderstanding for what I've said about Dragon type (I'm agree with other member said, Not you). So, Slow down already will ya.

Perriechu September 16th, 2010 3:36 PM

E4 and Champion ! (MAJOR SPOILERS)
 
Yus Serebii just updated with our E4 and Champ

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

WOW...

EDIT : More details :O I cannot wait! Wow this is going to have the best Post Elite 4 ever!

You get to fight a legend team then you have to find 7 sages... and Oh! just read for your self :3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 16th, 2010 3:38 PM

I was surprise to hear that Belle was the Champ but at least we got our Second female champ :)

Perriechu September 16th, 2010 3:40 PM

I was more surprised about the Post E4 :O

I can't wait for this game now :3

I was actually quite surprised about Belle, what about Cheren :O

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 16th, 2010 3:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6159524)
I was more surprised about the Post E4 :O

I can't wait for this game now :3

I was actually quite surprised about Belle, what about Cheren :O

Cheren would battle you in the Victory road I'm guessing...

Zaroas September 16th, 2010 3:44 PM

Ooh, I like. The champion, to me, was quite a surprise. I won't say it though for the sake of ruining the game for everyone else. The 7 Sages is pretty cool, too.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 16th, 2010 3:46 PM

I wonder what purpose the sage would serve maybe they are there to restore the balance that was ruined by team Plasma...

Silver25 September 16th, 2010 3:47 PM

7 Sages sound like a way better version of the Battle Frontier. Sounds awesome, I can't wait! And this sounds like to me by far the best Elite Four yet! Didn't expect Belle as the Champion. So I guess we'll see her change drastically throughout the story when you talk with her. And I wonder who the two rumored trainers at the end are...

Perriechu September 16th, 2010 3:50 PM

What Im also bothered is that after the E4 a trainer has Zekrom and Zoroak

I wonder if he/she is unlocked after the sages :O

Ho-Oh September 16th, 2010 3:52 PM

Merged with the elite four discussion thread.


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