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Holy crap - Belle really did turn out to be the Champion! :o And there I was a few months ago, joking how awesome of a plot twist having Belle as the Champion would turn out to be.
GameFreak +9000. |
Ew, why is Belle our champion? Dumbest, weakest champion ever, period. In the words of my bff Sean,
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I don't even HATE Belle, I just don't think she's champ material at all. Cheren(sp?) would have been better. |
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Only the protaganist (us) gets the legendaries! And what is you have him? Does the other trainer have Reshiram instead? Yaay, another Dark type Elite Four! Since they didn't get a gym, it's good they got a position in the Elite Four. (: |
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She's obviously good otherwise she wouldn't have a Lv70 starter would she ? |
Imagine her pokemon in the rematches...she would be stronger than Cynthia :o!
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Kay now I can properly comment. I love how Belle is the champion - which makes me question Cheren's role, but... wow. Belle was so unexpected, but I think she'll be a tough contender.
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Her signature Pokemon is the highest leveled Pokemon that's ever been in the E4 Before rematches :O
She's gonna be tough to take down |
7sages sounds like a rip off from Zelda :/
even more so that you have to LOOK for them... seriously, thats what you did in ocarina of time, & a link to the past... just seems lame to me, they shouldve thought that part through :/ but i guess its in honor of the OoT 3DS remake :/ but still... lame. the E4 looks great, kinda pissed we have a dark E4 member,& not a gym leader :/ Belle as the champion!? definitely blew my mind, but i love it, its nice to see that both rivals (if Cheren does battle you in the VR) that they both are central to the storyline, unlike in R/S/E where you battle May up to the 7th badge, she drops out& the Wally takes over :/ i love the E4 though, their unique :) thisll definitely be interesting :D |
How reliable is Pokejungle? They're saying there are 3 champions?
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The ghost E4 looks odd...
I think Belle will be a force to recon with in the rematches and in the first battle:D |
Belle could have a chance of being stronger than Red in a rematch 0_o
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A girl with the same color scheme as Barry who beated Red's GSC team will beat Red's HGSS team :P |
I don't get what's so bad about Belle being a champion. Isn't it like Gary/Green being champion in RBYG/FRLG? :/
I hate the typings for the E4.. |
Are we sure Bell and Cheren aren't champions depending on which version your playing? I have nothing against Bell, I think it's rather cool given her airhead personality.
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Speaking of... The Elite Four is structured very awkwardly. The Elite Four only have four Pokemon each, all of which are between 48 to 50. Then Belle comes along with level 66-70 Pokemon - and yet, she still only has four?
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It is a rather large level gap. I wonder how that will work out...
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all i know is i love the thought of belle as champ is awesome :)
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is cheren better? it was even known that belle was going to be tough from the beginning... sooo... yeah awesome? |
Elite 4 and Champion Information (SPOILER ALERT)
Holy crap we have Elite 4 and Champion information...Look away if you don't want to see it...
Elite 1: Shikimi Type: Ghost Team: Desukan Lv. 48, Burunkeru Lv. 48, and Shandeera Lv. 50 Elite 2: Giima Type: Dark Team: Zuruzukin Lv. 48, Leparudusu Lv. 48, and Kirikizan Lv. 50 Elite 3: Katorena Type: Psychic Team: Rankurusu Lv. 48, Musharna Lv. 48, Shinbora Lv. 48, and Gochiruzeru Lv. 50 Elite 4: Renbu Type: Fighting Team: Nageki Lv. 48, Dageki Lv. 48, Roopushin Lv. 48, and Kojondo Lv. 50 Champion: Belle!! Type: Mixed Team: ??? |
Woah... so lost here. Only thing I've managed to get is that Belle is champion. Cool! :D
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You fight 2 others after you are done with the Elite 4 and then after you beat those 2 (Team Plasma Leaders? Zekrom on one of their teams makes me believe that in Black TP catches Zekrom) then you find 7 sages (7 more Gym Leaders! With Ninja Skills! xD) |
You can battle Cynthia during the Spring and Summer - so much for "no old characters."
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Cynthia, she's a really cool dancer, Cynthia
boogie to the groove now :D (ten points for whoever got the ref) but yeah, we battle cynthia :) |
...Oh well I hope Steven or Wallance shows up at least :)
wow cynthia is the first champ to in two gens since Blue who you get to battle :) |
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Red Green (The Male One aka Blue) Lance Steven Wallace Cynthia Oak I would buy the game if it was something like that... |
We can never have too much Cynthia. ;)
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I'm glad to see Cynthia again :D |
maybe Cynthia will have Isshu-ised her team!
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Spiritomb, Milotic, Lucario, Wargle and Shiburodon Lv. 75 and Garchomp Lv. 77 |
I was absolutely amazed to hear Cynthia makes an appearance, and better yet, that you can battle her. I adore Cynthia, she's by far my favorite Champion... so I love the fact she appears.
As for the E4 itself, LOVE the typings! Even more surprised to see a Sinnoh Frontier Brain appear in the listings. Very weird, wonder what that's about. I do like it though. And the Champion of Isshu being Belle is just weird. To me, she doesn't fit the whole "Champion" idea, especially considering the she's "somewhat unreliable and a bit of an airhead"... but I guess that's part of the surprise. I can't say I'm disappointed, just surprised. :D |
I am actually very pleased by how this turned out to be like. :'3 I wished really hard that there wouldn't be any Dragon-trainers and there isn't. I wished that there would be once again a various type Champion who would be your rival and VOILÁ! The only thing that I am not happy is that for the fourth time already we have a Psychic-type Elite member. We've had Lorelei (basicly she was using Ice-type pokemon but to me they were Ice and Psychic type), Will, Lucian and now this new one that possibly is the woman from the Sinnoh's Battle Frontier. Anyhow I am very pleased and I love especially the new Dark-type user. XD MY FAVORITE ACTUALLY!
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OMG A dark type E4 member!! Knew there would be one since there wasn't a gym leader.
Surprised Belle is the champion though, and I am sooo happy you are able to verse Cynthia. The Psychic lady is pretty. |
I think this is one of my favorite Elite Four teams so far. Nice line up of Pokemon, plus their character designs are all pretty cool, in my opinion. I'm looking forward to facing them, and usually I don't care much for the Elite Four past knowing how to beat them down. > >;
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ok if the champions pokemon are such a high level how strong do you think the 7 sages will be......imagine 7 reds!!!!!!
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^^^^ Probably late 70's... They might get more poewerful as you verse them.
I like how there is a dark, ghost and Psychic all in a line. They are the most eerie of the pokemon types! And yay the Ghost girl has Shandeera!! I am also surprised there are 3 girls and only 2 guys in the elite 4 this time around. And Yay for another African American, not that it is a big deal. |
I love the Dark and Fighting E4 dudes. :D They're both very hot.
The girls... couldn't care less. Cool, I guess. I still think Belle is a useless weakling of a champion, though. Good to see Cynthia again, now THAT's a female champion, not this dumb teenage bimbo. In my eyes Belle is no competition and shall never be; from the beginning till the end of the game, she is, as far as I'm concerned, some silly country girl who got to be champion by the combined factors of a little skill, a lot of luck, and being in the right place at the right time. If she were real and I met her I'd be like, "LOL! You call yourself a champion? Looking like that? A Gochiruzeru has better fashion sense, and she's as ugly as a beehive!" and get her angry lolo. Then I'd kick her ass in the battlefield and lol as she cries and runs away, because I am mean and evil like that, just like a Smuglord. >:3 |
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Yeah it is nice to know though that you can kick her ass and de throne her as the champion. She is no champion quality I agree, Cynthia is the most champion like so far! Even more so than Wallace and Lance I think. I wish it were like FR and LG where there was the champion who got beat and then your rival, and you beat him/her and make them cry and feel bad :) |
I'm digging the fact that the Elite 4 all have types that I love : Ghost, Dark, Psychic, Fighting. |
Im sorry i dissagree with the people who says bella doesnt look like a champion
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Oh I just read that the Psychic girl is the partner of that Frontier Brain guy in Platinum! HOW COOOOOLLL!! so she can battle and she actually lives in Isshu!
Amazing little gaps are always filled in pokemon which is why I love it so so much. |
Your second rival (Belle) is the champion? That's surprising. We didn't get our Dark Gym leader, but at least we get another Dark E4 member. Also, it's good to battle Cynthia again.
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I don't agree with it at all, but hey, that's the way it goes. XD Disagreeing with someone's views is nothing that anyone ought to be ashamed or hesitant to talk about. Haters gonna hate, right? |
It is weird how all of the E4 members have the same leveled pokemon.... That will make them quite easy to beat. And they are on low levels too.
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Yes but remember HGSS E4 had to be lower leveled because there were 2 regions in one, other wise when you get to Kanto your pokemon will be way too high levels and the Kanto E4 would have to be in 80's and 90's.
EDIT: NEW UPDATE:The E4 are more powerful when you rematch them and there is a new champion to replacec Belle on the second time. |
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Does it say who it is? It can't be Cynthia as you already fight her. |
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the elite four are easy to beat, they have four Pokemons instead of five
they aren't very challenging like D/P/Pt |
It's great to see cynthia!~ I hope she has even better battle music this time too! :3!~
The Elite 4 Looks awsome! Im a bit suprised Belle is the champion!~ |
Hahaha! Cool. Cynthia appear again. And now in Isshu!? Cool! I'd love to see her. She's one of my most favorite too!
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I wonder if the Elite Four will get upgrades in future battles like in HG/SS...Although there's quite a large gap in levels between the Champion and the rest of the Elite Four.
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A party of four seems kinda strange, but for the rematches they have a party of five with pokemon from previous generations with levels around 70. Yeah, and that Adeku guy is the new champion. Almost seems like the fist time through the E4 is just a warm-up.
And is the Psychic E4 member Caitlan like some sites are suggesting? |
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Yes she is. Which is really cool |
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The new champion is uber-hot. I want him for myself. >:3 Also, he seems to favour Bug Pokemon (has Agiruda, Shubarugo, Urugamosu) which is a major bonus in my opinion.
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Eh I prefer Belle over this guy as champ as he reminds me of Pearl's dad...
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I actually like that there's a new Champion besides Belle. Atleast it gets interesting, and it's no fun that your childhood friend is STILL the champion even though your better than her...
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The new Champion is totally cool. I would have been surprised if they had kept Belle even for the rematches, so this is not so surprising. His design is totally cool though. A little disappointed he only uses Isshu Pokemon though, unlike the rest of the E4 in the rematches. I guess that's simply to fit the title of the Isshu Champion though. :P
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So he isn't the trainer with Zoroark and Zekrom. His team consists of Agirudaa, Buffalon, Kurimugan, Baibanira, Shubarugo, and Urugamosu. All his Pokemon are level 75 except for his Urugamosu. Then who is the other trainer?
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<3 he will prolly be the last fighting E4 for a long time thohttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-renbu.jpg
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In the rematches, the first Elite Four member has five Pokemon, while the rest of them have six.
Ugh. My OCD is gonna kill me with that. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Belle the one who choses the starter with the type disadvantage to yours?
If so, that is the only thing that annoys me about her being champion. Other than that, it's a nice twist. |
yea she is but the thing that bothers me more is that she has only 4 pokemon :s but i stil like it.
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Her pokemon might have pro moves though :O
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I must say the fighting type E4 looks pretty badass.
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Here's Belle's actual team: Lv.63 Muurando, Lv.63 Baokey/Hiyakey/Yanakey, Lv.63 Musharna, Lv.63 Kojondo, Lv. Chandelar, Lv.65 Daikenki/Jaroda/Enbuoh |
Wait a second.....4 Pokemon ranging from lvls 48-50
hmm.... http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-115.jpg?t=1284762148 seems to easy... http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-131-1.jpg?t=1284762148 this is odd.... http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-82.jpg?t=1284762148 wait! what if?! http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-126.jpg?t=1284762148 WE CAN'T HEAL BETWEEN E4 OMG OMG OMG OMG |
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Four Pokemon? What is this I don't even. Come on GameFreak, I was looking for a challenge. Save a massive level difference (which I doubt there will be), six Pokemon will walk over four any day of the week.
And as for the typings... Psychic, Dark, Fighting and Ghost? *facepalms* There are 4 types we've still never had in the Elite Four, and you go with 4 types we've had twice before? That's just... it's almost as stupid as the Fire/Fighting starter. Not to mention the stupidity of having a Dark-type E4 instead of gym leader... |
While I am a bit disheartened by the fact new types are being exploited as a E4 speciality, I am glad that they all link in with each other (sort off) resistance wise.
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Gym Leaders and Elite Four are pretty tamed down this Generation. However, I love the Dark-Psychic-Fight-Ghost typings for them. Those four types are heavily interrelated, so it makes sense for them to all be together in one group.
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Was anyone else surprised when they found out Belle/Beru was the champion?
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so belle is the champion?? cool. and i also like it if she have several type of pokemon ;)
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Wait a second.....4 Pokemon ranging from lvls 48-50 hmm.... http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-115.jpg?t=1284762148 seems to easy... http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-131-1.jpg?t=1284762148 this is odd.... http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-82.jpg?t=1284762148 wait! what if?! http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/CKmaster/th_isshu-pokemon-126.jpg?t=1284762148 WE CAN'T HEAL BETWEEN E4 OMG OMG OMG OMG |
We can't heal between the Elite 4...?
Wow, stupid. I am also surprised : 4 POKEMON ? OMG What...? And not to mention the Huge Lv. Gap (20 Levels...). But I know why : After you clear the Elite 4, a huge building gets summoned by N and he final storyline stuff happens. I think this explains it... |
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Um, does anyone know how the post-elite four thing goes? I read it but didn't get it. So, is that between the E4 in the champion? Or after the champion? Either way it looks epic.
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I'm glad Katorea finally fights on her own, but why did she moved to Isshu? But YAY Cynthia appears again (she's everywhere :| )
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Yeah she is, she has appeared in DPPlHgSsBW so far...that's the most games a champ has appeared in not counting Red, Blue or lance as they had yet to gain or lost their title... |
Where did she appear in HG/SS and Diamond and Peal?
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Hope this helps if you're curious. If you don't want to spoil yourself though, that's fine too. XD; As for me, I'm okay with four Pokemon per Elite 4, considering what's going to happen after that. :x |
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Ooooh okay, thanks :) I dont think she got hurt, maybe she is just a BF of the Battle Brain dude but lives in Isshu. |
I'm a bit confused as to how it's all going down. Almost all of the sources I've read say that Bel is the Champion, but the gameplay video I was watching shows the credits rolling after Geechisu is defeated. I also know that Adeku is battled after returning to fight the Elite Four again... So, is Bel ever battled as a Champion? Or is her position in the League only ever mentioned during cutscenes? Or does she appear during the first rematch, but none of the subsequent ones? I'm confused.
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Belle is the Champion during the storyline. BUT, after the whole thing with N, Belle is replaced by Adeku.
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So you never get the chance to battle Belle as the Champion? :0
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It would appear as such. No fighting Belle.
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