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Haza September 20th, 2010 8:00 PM

This is easily the best E4 in a long long time. I love how difficult they made them, especially in the rematches!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 20th, 2010 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 6171187)
Aaaw, I was looking forward to seeing Bel as a total badass. I still find it weird how the main antagonist is actually the final boss for once. I was hoping that Bel would be fightable (which is a word now, I say) after you dealt with Geechisu, but, meh, whatcha' gonna' do. On a sidenote, Geechisu's battle theme reminds me a lot of Arceus's.

You do battle Belle actually as they showed us her team...so we do battle her :)

JP September 20th, 2010 8:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6171321)

You do battle Belle actually as they showed us her team...so we do battle her :)

I don't knowwww. While checking Serebii's E4 information, I didn't see anything about Belle... though Adeku shows up. :/ I do wonder where the info on her team came up though, that's why I'm so unsure about it.

GoldvsRed September 21st, 2010 1:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 6171388)
I don't knowwww. While checking Serebii's E4 information, I didn't see anything about Belle... though Adeku shows up. :/ I do wonder where the info on her team came up though, that's why I'm so unsure about it.

I can't find any gameplay videos of that battle either. Perhaps you fight her before the whole Team Plasma fiasco unravels?

Dragiiin September 21st, 2010 3:56 PM

I'm glad there's a dark trainer. Dark pokemon don't get enough love D:

Fushigidane-Chan September 21st, 2010 3:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 6172579)
I can't find any gameplay videos of that battle either. Perhaps you fight her before the whole Team Plasma fiasco unravels?

Definitely not. Her team was in the 60s...

Considering WPM himself found her team in the game's data, either she battles post-Elite Four, or maybe her team is beta and doesn't actually appear in the game.

GoldvsRed September 21st, 2010 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6172982)
Definitely not. Her team was in the 60s...

Considering WPM himself found her team in the game's data, either she battles post-Elite Four, or maybe her team is beta and doesn't actually appear in the game.

Strange... Adeku is still totally cool, though. I kind of picture him as the "true" final boss, like Red in G/S/C/HG/SS. His battlefield is just too cool to have him as completely optional... Then again, this game is more story-oriented, so it makes logical sense that the climax is actually at the end.

austy14 September 21st, 2010 4:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6172982)
Definitely not. Her team was in the 60s...

Considering WPM himself found her team in the game's data, either she battles post-Elite Four, or maybe her team is beta and doesn't actually appear in the game.

I'm starting to wonder if you just get to battle her in a post-E4 thing. I mean, it would be cool if she was the champion, but no one seems to know...

GFA September 21st, 2010 4:15 PM

All of their teams have the same level layout ... This will be 5 times easier then it ever has been.

JP September 21st, 2010 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6173024)
I'm starting to wonder if you just get to battle her in a post-E4 thing. I mean, it would be cool if she was the champion, but no one seems to know...

Yeah, I'm thinking you get to battle her post-E4, but simply as a rival and not a Champion...ever. :( Then again, I don't mind that much as I think Adeku is a much more fitting Champion.

GoldvsRed September 21st, 2010 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 6173264)
Yeah, I'm thinking you get to battle her post-E4, but simply as a rival and not a Champion...ever. :( Then again, I don't mind that much as I think Adeku is a much more fitting Champion.

Yeah, he's the more traditional style of Champion. For some reason, though, the credits theme sounds more like a Champion battle theme than Adeku's actual battle theme does... Weird.

Fushigidane-Chan September 21st, 2010 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 6173280)
For some reason, though, the credits theme sounds more like a Champion battle theme than Adeku's actual battle theme does... Weird.

What exactly is his battle theme? It's certainly not this.

Spikey-Eared Pichu September 22nd, 2010 10:07 AM

STOP THE PRESSES!

Now, this isn't confirmed, but after reading some info on Serebii, I believe it is safe to say that Caitlin of the E4, is indeed the girl you see in the Battle Castle of DPPtHGSS! This is based on her appearance, and that after you beat the "Mysterious Sinnoh Trainer" she vists the Trainer's house and reminisces about the Battle Castle!

Devil Flamingo September 22nd, 2010 11:16 AM

Oh, thank Arceus I don't have to fight Belle as the champ. That'd be embarrassing. Still loving Adeku and Darkguy (dunno his name), though. :D

The Red Chain September 22nd, 2010 2:46 PM

I gotta say, I'm disappointed. I really wanted to fight Belle, not some random person. XD It would further her storyline along since her dad didn't want her to be a Pokemon trainer. It would prove that she has what it takes to do it by becoming champion.. and I love her little clumsy battle sprite. <3


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 22nd, 2010 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo (Post 6174337)
Oh, thank Arceus I don't have to fight Belle as the champ. That'd be embarrassing. Still loving Adeku and Darkguy (dunno his name), though. :D

How would that be embarrassing?
I wanted to battle Belle not Adeku :(...

GoldvsRed September 22nd, 2010 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6174790)

How would that be embarrassing?
I wanted to battle Belle not Adeku :(...

Me too, but Bel doesn't really seem like the type of person that would want to be tied down by League-required things like Level restrictions and battling schedules, so it doesn't really fit her personality...

austy14 September 22nd, 2010 3:56 PM

No belle? Damnnn. I was looking forward to it too, she coulda been sorta the ugly duckling thing. Kinda weak and no one believes in her... and BAM! Champion of Ishhu. And it's even bigger cus Isshu is the only region on the continent so far so CHAMPION OF THE CONTINENT! ...Random. Anyways, for anyone who's made it that far, who's the champion in E4 rematches? If there is one.

Bay September 22nd, 2010 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6174724)

I gotta say, I'm disappointed. I really wanted to fight Belle, not some random person. XD It would further her storyline along since her dad didn't want her to be a Pokemon trainer. It would prove that she has what it takes to do it by becoming champion.. and I love her little clumsy battle sprite. <3


It would be nice if that were to happen too, even though I like the plot twist. XD Like one of the other posters said though, Belle probably doesn't seem like the person to be doing Champion stuff and such.

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6174889)
No belle? Damnnn. I was looking forward to it too, she coulda been sorta the ugly duckling thing. Kinda weak and no one believes in her... and BAM! Champion of Ishhu. And it's even bigger cus Isshu is the only region on the continent so far so CHAMPION OF THE CONTINENT! ...Random. Anyways, for anyone who's made it that far, who's the champion in E4 rematches? If there is one.

Haven't played the games yet, but from what I heard (and others mentioning this too), it's Adeku. His Pokemon are in the mid 70s range in terms of levels.

Fushigidane-Chan September 22nd, 2010 6:13 PM

While Belle becoming the Champion would've certainly been an awesome plot twist and would've helped her character development tremendously... I personally prefer the Plasma climax we got instead. Something like it had never been done before... I'm glad GameFreak tried out something new for once.

Ho-Oh September 22nd, 2010 11:24 PM

At least the e4 makes sense now, but uuugh, Belle would've been great. XD;

Then again I don't usually pay much attention to the e4. :x

Superjub October 2nd, 2010 1:31 AM

I'm actually shocked that Caitlin is an Elite Four membe. So much for "starting from scratch." >.> Anyway, I'm wondering where Darach is? Caitlin without Darach is... just wierd. ;_;

Perriechu October 2nd, 2010 2:18 AM

Belle is the champion first time around
http://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2010.shtml

Go to where loads of information was revealed. Her team is revealed.

Adeku is the champion post E4. You can then battle belle again in Araragi's lab.

Fushigidane-Chan October 2nd, 2010 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6196798)
Belle is the champion first time around

Belle was never the Champion. That was a fake rumor.

King Gumball October 2nd, 2010 4:08 PM

I am really happy it was a rumor. I prefer that actual champion.


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