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Kanto_Johto August 17th, 2010 5:35 AM

What DON'T you want to see in the new games?
 
I for one wouldn't mind seeing the Phone Call aspect removed. It was a nice new little feature in G/S/C, but I think they ruined it with HG/SS. I found myself getting far too many meaningless Phone Calls. The only one that made me laugh was the Biker who says something like: "Hey, you should come and join us Rebels! We like to throw rubbish everywhere on the cycle roads. Then we pick it up, take it home and throw it in the bin. It's great fun!".

Another minor detail - I've hoped since the D/P/Pt games that they would get rid of the new fainting noise and bring back the old one. Something about it really bothers me. It just doesn't fit the battle....atmosphere, so to speak.

Anyways, discuss things you don't want to see return/don't want included.

Kirbychu August 17th, 2010 7:31 AM

My god, let's finally return that quick moving HP bar from the RBY days. We shouldn't have to wait there 30 while seconds watching the little bar dwindle. ._.

AuraGaurdian August 17th, 2010 7:41 AM

I agree with the phone thing seriously whats the point?
they could however just bring it back except that you only get the numbers you would use professors,day carers,gym leaders sand maybe the safari guy.Maybe.

Cjdamon042 August 17th, 2010 7:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 6079933)
My god, let's finally return that quick moving HP bar from the RBY days. We shouldn't have to wait there 30 seconds watching the little bar dwindle. ._.

Watching any of the gameplay movies would show you that there's a much faster HP bar. It pretty much instantly takes off the HP rather than forcing the player to sit there watching it.

coolnick37 August 17th, 2010 7:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cjdamon042 (Post 6079976)
Watching any of the gameplay movies would show you that there's a much faster HP bar. It pretty much instantly takes off the HP rather than forcing the player to sit there watching it.

Maybe they just sped it up for the trailer, they did that with the most of gameplay footage

Alto Mare August 17th, 2010 7:53 AM

I did like the whole phone thing in SS/HG because you could rebattle a ton of people I already got all the badges, beat red, and all I have to do now is just rebattle the Gym-leaders... so without them I'd be pretty bored and I wouldn't have as much money nor would I have such high leveled pokemon :)

Ho-Oh August 17th, 2010 7:59 AM

Just a note guys, try to stay on-topic otherwise this thread will end up locked for being too similar to what you want in-game - the parts and features one (and discussing HP bars...isn't really saying what you don't want in the games anymore).

I don't want half of the HMs from the previous generations, personally. Actually, I don't really want most of the key items from previous generations. :(

TheNewRocketMovement August 17th, 2010 8:08 AM

I know this is an obvious one but I don't want to see too many legendaries.

Also, I've heard things about them including seasons in Black and White, if this is the case I want them to do it properly, not a week of Spring, a week of Summer, a week of Autumn, and a week of Winter, I'd prefer the in-game seasons to last as long as real life seasons.

Kenshin5 August 17th, 2010 8:35 AM

I don't want to see the phone system either. I prefer Vs. Seeker for finding rematches. Some of the phone calls are completely pointless. I don't care to see the arranged times you must meet the gym leaders for a rematch, it just seems like a pain to meet them exactly on some of those times.

joey7891 August 17th, 2010 8:35 AM

more watertypes.. nuff said

Tyxomm August 17th, 2010 8:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewRocketMovement (Post 6080019)
I know this is an obvious one but I don't want to see too many legendaries.

Also, I've heard things about them including seasons in Black and White, if this is the case I want them to do it properly, not a week of Spring, a week of Summer, a week of Autumn, and a week of Winter, I'd prefer the in-game seasons to last as long as real life seasons.

It's one month for each season.

And I too want to see less legendary's.

Kizerzin August 17th, 2010 8:40 AM

I want HMs to be unlearnable like everyother move in the game. Pikachu shouldnt return >>

Gregora August 17th, 2010 9:10 AM

What I don't want to see:

-The annoying beep of low health continuing even when healing (though they did make it just a tad less annoying. Compare 4th gen to 1st. 4th gen's beeping continued during healing. 1st gen's stopped the moment the lead pokemon's health started to recover)

-A billion legendaries (I would love it if they had a trio, the two or three version legendaries, and a single event legendary. They're getting too wide-spread. When you spent most of the post-game hunting legendaries, you know there's a problem.)

-The Pokemon Follow feature ('nuff said)

-Pokemon from previous games in the regional dex (I don't mind if there's new evolutions and pre-evos in the nat dex though. But I wanna start from scratch with the regional dex)

-A storyline that is an exact copy of every other main series pokemon game (aka going from gym battle to team (insert name here) to gym battle and repeat as necessary).

-Another paper-thin plot (When fangames have more plot than the actual games, there's a problem. I don't mind it if there's a childish plot as long as there's a plot.)

-A single Move Re-learner and Move eraser that to get to, you have to nearly be finished with the game (It's annoying when I really want to get rid of HM moves and have to wait for hours to get to the town with them in it.)

Tyxomm August 17th, 2010 11:00 AM

Pokemon R/S/E
had Zigzagoon in almost every route.

Pokemon D/P/Pt
had Bidoof in almost every route.

this is annoying as hell.
I'm playing ruby at the moment and i'm trying to search for some grass pokemon, but with almost every encouter it's a damn zigzagoon/linoone.

IMO: every route should have different pokemon, or at least many.

Agent Clank August 17th, 2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6080085)
I don't want to see the phone system either. I prefer Vs. Seeker for finding rematches. Some of the phone calls are completely pointless. I don't care to see the arranged times you must meet the gym leaders for a rematch, it just seems like a pain to meet them exactly on some of those times.

I completely agree with you Kenshin5.
I hope they take that out also and put back in the VS seeker.

chickenofunity August 17th, 2010 11:08 AM

I just wish that enemy trainers would'nt use rollout as much. It bugs me so much.. in fact, if Rollout the move did not exist in the new games at all, I would be happy.

Tyxomm August 17th, 2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chickenofunity (Post 6080544)
I just wish that enemy trainers would'nt use rollout as much. It bugs me so much.. in fact, if Rollout the move did not exist in the new games at all, I would be happy.

The only times i have problems with rollout is with gym leader whitney.

http://a.imageshack.us/img190/194/rollout.png
credits: myself

Omnis August 17th, 2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyxomm (Post 6080528)
Pokemon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyxomm (Post 6080528)
R/S/E
had Zigzagoon in almost every route.

Pokemon
D/P/Pt
had Bidoof in almost every route.

this is annoying as hell.

I'm playing ruby at the moment and i'm trying to search for some grass pokemon, but with almost every encouter it's a damn zigzagoon/linoone.

IMO: every route should have different pokemon, or at least many.



B/W: Route 1 - "A Wild Minezumi appears!" one minute later, "ANOTHER Wild Minezumi appears!" and so on/so forth... If you're going to make another Ratatta... don't make it look SO MUCH LIKE BIDOOF...

I want them to make the "Ratattas of the game" a bit less frequent... I mean really, besides using them for HM slaves, what good to they serve?


GaXeL August 17th, 2010 11:44 AM

I DONT wanna see that voltorb flip, its so stupid. What ever happened to getting A LOT of money and just cashing it in for a porygon? xD

PaxAmericana August 17th, 2010 1:13 PM

as others, less water types

nearlyworthwatching August 17th, 2010 1:24 PM

i agree with the phone thing. and the HP thing.
better mini-games is what they need.

Volroc August 17th, 2010 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregora (Post 6080167)
What I don't want to see:

-The annoying beep of low health continuing even when healing (though they did make it just a tad less annoying. Compare 4th gen to 1st. 4th gen's beeping continued during healing. 1st gen's stopped the moment the lead pokemon's health started to recover)

-A billion legendaries (I would love it if they had a trio, the two or three version legendaries, and a single event legendary. They're getting too wide-spread. When you spent most of the post-game hunting legendaries, you know there's a problem.)

-The Pokemon Follow feature ('nuff said)

-Pokemon from previous games in the regional dex (I don't mind if there's new evolutions and pre-evos in the nat dex though. But I wanna start from scratch with the regional dex)

-A storyline that is an exact copy of every other main series pokemon game (aka going from gym battle to team (insert name here) to gym battle and repeat as necessary).

-Another paper-thin plot (When fangames have more plot than the actual games, there's a problem. I don't mind it if there's a childish plot as long as there's a plot.)

-A single Move Re-learner and Move eraser that to get to, you have to nearly be finished with the game (It's annoying when I really want to get rid of HM moves and have to wait for hours to get to the town with them in it.)

1- agree

2- agree

3- epic fail, follow me feature is awesome,only OCD people who freak over little tiny inconsistencies that dont even matter in game play dont want it.

4- agree

5- eh that wont change so i dont care

6- agreed, we need one in the first major city. then near the end.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyxomm (Post 6080528)
Pokemon R/S/E
had Zigzagoon in almost every route.

Pokemon D/P/Pt
had Bidoof in almost every route.

this is annoying as hell.
I'm playing ruby at the moment and i'm trying to search for some grass pokemon, but with almost every encouter it's a damn zigzagoon/linoone.

IMO: every route should have different pokemon, or at least many.

im 100% for this

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaXeL (Post 6080623)
I DONT wanna see that voltorb flip, its so stupid. What ever happened to getting A LOT of money and just cashing it in for a porygon? xD

lmao XD hell yes! my thoughts exactly!

my personal thoughts are:

NO MORE ****ING HMS!!!!!!!
Except Surf,Waterfall,&Fly.
I am sick of using cut,flash,strength,& rock smash just to get threw the damn storyline, this isnt the legend of zelda, or bioshock, or some **** where you have to fight your way threw obstacles just to survive, this is pokemon, its supposed to be all "lovey dovey" not piss me off cuz i wanna have my team& i got box 1for a goddamn HM slave

my rant over HMs is over :cer_laugh:

i also think the phone feature is stupid.

but i want them to take out the video chat feature theyve shown,it just screams multiple glitches...

also i think the old rod needs to go, why have a rod that can catch only 1pokemon?

sure in gen3 we would get tenta-not so-cool, but seriously all it gets is magikarps, give me the good rod,the super rod,& the pro rod.
thatll be the right way to fish,since i love to fish in real life,i want the fishing to be more worth my time in pokemon, instead of: "oh wait til yo get your 3-4th badge then you can get something worth while,& screw you beat the E4 before you can get anything spectacular"

my rant on their horribly fishing set up is finished :cer_laugh:

& lastly pointless starter moves in a pokemons moveset its not like we are gonna get a lv1 charizard,so whats the point of having it start with: scratch,growl,ember,& smokescreen (or watever it knows) then learn it normally? when we could use those spaces on pokemon who dont learn many moves, exc.

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:13 PM

Yeah, I wanna see a REAL Game corner. Gambling problems from a Pokemon video game? WTH are people thinking? But we could do with not so many water Pokemon, there's just too many and they all look like fish. And not so many Key Items, we don't need 25 tickets to the moon (though they should ad 1). And I hope no more HMs, 8 is more than enough. Though I could live with replacing them... like whirlpool. Let's hope for Dive back!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 4:14 PM

^ Volroc, Why do you think the video chat will have glitches?
I don't want to see them take away HM's I actually use them and love them :)
I don't want 3 pokemon in the first route, rather more.
Voltorb flip, I found it boring...

Bamboo Basara August 17th, 2010 4:33 PM

I don't think we will see the region rodent all over the place this time around. Sentret only appeared on a few routes in Heart Gold and Soul Silver. While this was most likely because it was a remake and they figured people had seen enough Sentret, it makes me think they realize how annoyedwe get by seeing the same Pokemon over and over again.

Xander Olivieri August 17th, 2010 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregora (Post 6080167)
What I don't want to see:

-The Pokemon Follow feature ('nuff said)

-Pokemon from previous games in the regional dex (I don't mind if there's new evolutions and pre-evos in the nat dex though. But I wanna start from scratch with the regional dex)

-A storyline that is an exact copy of every other main series pokemon game (aka going from gym battle to team (insert name here) to gym battle and repeat as necessary).

-Another paper-thin plot (When fangames have more plot than the actual games, there's a problem. I don't mind it if there's a childish plot as long as there's a plot.)

1st one. I completely agree. I hated the Follow Me feature. All HG/SS was was a Gold/Silver with Diamond/Pearl's Graphics and Game Freak added Crystal's story mixed into the main but ti played no major part in it and added Yellow's Pikachu follow feature. HG/SS was the biggest disappointment in Pokemon since Platinum.

Second and Third one. Sorry to say, but that's all there IS to Pokemon. The Plot is "Gotta Catch Them All and Become the Pokemon Master". There is nothing more than that. Colosseum and XD had a plot and see what they did to Pokemon catching in there. Pokemon with a major Plot isn't going to happen and something out side the Gym Leaders possibly won't ever be done because that's very un-Pokemon.


Something I don't want to see:

Evolutions and Pre=Evolutions to previous games. Its annoying to have them add on later. I think it was one of the most pointless additions. I don't want ANY evolutions and Pre-Evolutions in Gen 5. I was greatly disappointed in Mamebou's release. TTwTT Please no more Evolutions.

austy14 August 17th, 2010 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6081367)
1st one. I completely agree. I hated the Follow Me feature. All HG/SS was was a Gold/Silver with Diamond/Pearl's Graphics and Game Freak added Crystal's story mixed into the main but ti played no major part in it and added Yellow's Pikachu follow feature. HG/SS was the biggest disappointment in Pokemon since Platinum.

Second and Third one. Sorry to say, but that's all there IS to Pokemon. The Plot is "Gotta Catch Them All and Become the Pokemon Master". There is nothing more than that. Colosseum and XD had a plot and see what they did to Pokemon catching in there. Pokemon with a major Plot isn't going to happen and something out side the Gym Leaders possibly won't ever be done because that's very un-Pokemon.


Something I don't want to see:

Evolutions and Pre=Evolutions to previous games. Its annoying to have them add on later. I think it was one of the most pointless additions. I don't want ANY evolutions and Pre-Evolutions in Gen 5. I was greatly disappointed in Mamebou's release. TTwTT Please no more Evolutions.

About the HG/SS, that's EXACTLY what it was. Platinum graphics with the Crystal story. Like Fr/Lg were R/S/E graphics with R/B story. But I would like to see the following feature, just probably not gonna be in B/W. I also don't want the Union Room... too much of a wate of time. I like the new box trade system, and the High Link seems cool. Could also do wihout a professor that wants to see EVERYTHING you do.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 7:25 PM

I don't want to see a small plot this gen like that of team Rocket...

Shadow01192 August 17th, 2010 7:27 PM

I don't want to see any more water pokemon. We literally have 93 water pokemon in total. We don't need any more. However if we are going to get more water let's get a non-uber water and fire with drizzle and drought respectively. On second thought lets just see a fire pokemon with drought

austy14 August 17th, 2010 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow01192 (Post 6081925)
I don't want to see any more water pokemon. We literally have 93 water pokemon in total. We don't need any more. However if we are going to get more water let's get a non-uber water and fire with drizzle and drought respectively. On second thought lets just see a fire pokemon with drought

I would like more fire pokemon, and less lame Ratata clones. Maybe a fire/water combo? Also like to see less HM obstacles. They make fun puzzles, but can get in the way...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow01192 (Post 6081925)
I don't want to see any more water pokemon. We literally have 93 water pokemon in total. We don't need any more. However if we are going to get more water let's get a non-uber water and fire with drizzle and drought respectively. On second thought lets just see a fire pokemon with drought

Drought and Drizzle are signature Special abilities of Groudon and Kyogre...I don't see them being given to any other pokemon...

Foodin August 17th, 2010 8:06 PM

No more special Normal-type moves. It just seems out of character for Normal to have its own special movepool, as ordinary animals and humans can't shoot lasers out of his/her mouth or hands, control the weather or pull off any other superhuman or paranormal abilities what so ever.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 8:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foodin (Post 6082028)
No more special Normal-type moves. It just seems out of character for Normal to have its own special movepool, as ordinary animals and humans can't shoot lasers out of his/her mouth or hands, control the weather or pull off any other superhuman or paranormal abilities what so ever.

Well the normal special moves are normal super powers, like shorting a laser...so it makes sense in a way...

Totaldile August 17th, 2010 8:18 PM

I don't want stuff to just be GIVEN to you, as if you're the prodigy child going to save the world from destruction (well, you are, but that's not the point.) I want to have to look for stuff, solve puzzles etc.

I don't want to see TWO water pokemon when I'm surfing i want a variety.
I'm also sick of just...water. Water is clear, so shouldn't we be able to see a little underneath it?
What about swimming pokemon?
I'm sick of battles that are too easy. I want your pokemon to be disobedient if you train it too high (e.g. level 15 max before teh first gym.)
I WANT trainers to be higher levels than you. I want gym leaders that stand a chance. I don't want weak people. I want them to be a challenge rather than a chore.

Also, we need more attitude. I'm sick of people being all nicey-nice and hugging you and giving you a TM. I want to work for stuff. I want some stuff to be really hard.

I'm tired of gameplay being "do this, to get this, so you can do this, which gets this, so you can...etc". I'd love to see you NOT have to battle one gym leader because you're too weak. I want gym leaders with pokemon that can counter their main weaknesses. Pokemon is too.....easy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totaldile (Post 6082053)
I don't want stuff to just be GIVEN to you, as if you're the prodigy child going to save the world from destruction (well, you are, but that's not the point.) I want to have to look for stuff, solve puzzles etc.

I don't want to see TWO water pokemon when I'm surfing i want a variety.
I'm also sick of just...water. Water is clear, so shouldn't we be able to see a little underneath it?
What about swimming pokemon?
I'm sick of battles that are too easy. I want your pokemon to be disobedient if you train it too high (e.g. level 15 max before teh first gym.)
I WANT trainers to be higher levels than you. I want gym leaders that stand a chance. I don't want weak people. I want them to be a challenge rather than a chore.

Also, we need more attitude. I'm sick of people being all nicey-nice and hugging you and giving you a TM. I want to work for stuff. I want some stuff to be really hard.

I'm tired of gameplay being "do this, to get this, so you can do this, which gets this, so you can...etc". I'd love to see you NOT have to battle one gym leader because you're too weak. I want gym leaders with pokemon that can counter their main weaknesses. Pokemon is too.....easy.

Well it's a game for kids...
I do hope though that they aren't all the same personality.

Foodin August 17th, 2010 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6082037)

Well the normal special moves are normal super powers, like shorting a laser...so it makes sense in a way...

A laser beam's type could depend on the light source, so it probably would be ???-type for that reason alone. I think of "normal" as the complete lack of superpowers or extraordinary/weird characteristics as in the average Joe/Jane Q. Public.

Karel_Kazuki August 17th, 2010 9:21 PM

Well I Don't want to see the protagonist be another random hero.At least have a person who is talked about through the region as the hero or something.Maybe that's who N is.

Also I don't want to see TMS easily obtainable since theyre permanent now.Makes it a little balanced.

I also Don't want to See that each Gym Leader is Dressed Like a person whose at a restaurant or works for a rich person..Dento and Aloe Already show that, being A Waiter and Maid Respectively.

And Finally, I DONT Want to see that hIUN city has a large dock and we can only travel to three other islands.That would seriously Irk me.You tell me that the biggest dock in any generation can only take us to small places ?GF, You ticked me of now.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 6082168)
Well I Don't want to see the protagonist be another random hero.At least have a person who is talked about through the region as the hero or something.Maybe that's who N is.

Also I don't want to see TMS easily obtainable since theyre permanent now.Makes it a little balanced.

I also Don't want to See that each Gym Leader is Dressed Like a person whose at a restaurant or works for a rich person..Dento and Aloe Already show that, being A Waiter and Maid Respectively.

And Finally, I DONT Want to see that hIUN city has a large dock and we can only travel to three other islands.That would seriously Irk me.You tell me that the biggest dock in any generation can only take us to small places ?GF, You ticked me of now.

Well I saw a scan of Liberty Island and even thought it was only a scan I can already tell that it's bigger than most other event islands :)
Aloe is actually a Cook but I see your point.
I don't want to see only one legendary, I want to get both of them, plus the third like we always do :)

RivalGator August 17th, 2010 9:32 PM

If I ever, and I mean ever see Voltorb Flip again...
I am going to snap.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 9:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eivana (Post 6082180)
If I ever, and I mean ever see Voltorb Flip again...
I am going to snap.

Wow you must Really hate the Voltorb flip then...

Karel_Kazuki August 17th, 2010 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6082177)
Well I saw a scan of Liberty Island and even thought it was only a scan I can already tell that it's bigger than most other event islands :)
Aloe is actually a Cook but I see your point.
I don't want to see only one legendary, I want to get both of them, plus the third like we always do :)

Well then, let me scratch off the Part about Rich people then.
And that kinda is disheartening as well, to not be able to get both.At least IN GSC you could get both at some point.

Oh, And I don't want to see Pokemon With Types they Can't Learn.(I.E. Gyarados Is Water/Flying but can't Learn FLY.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eivana (Post 6082180)
If I ever, and I mean ever see Voltorb Flip again...
I am going to snap.

You too?I actually expected to see a slot machine, and I came to Goldenrod and saw a Guy behind a table?I actually though there were rooms in the back where the wall was, that's what it looked like xD.Voltorb Flip did tick me off though.But at the same time, it gave a balance to how Coins were obtained and the pokemon prizes,especially if you wanted Dratini early like I did :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 6082187)
Well then, let me scratch off the Part about Rich people then.
And that kinda is disheartening as well, to not be able to get both.At least IN GSC you could get both at some point.

Oh, And I don't want to see Pokemon With Types they Can't Learn.(I.E. Gyarados Is Water/Flying but can't Learn FLY.)



You too?I actually expected to see a slot machine, and I came to Goldenrod and saw a Guy behind a table?I actually though there were rooms in the back where the wall was, that's what it looked like xD.Voltorb Flip did tick me off though.But at the same time, it gave a balance to how Coins were obtained and the pokemon prizes,especially if you wanted Dratini early like I did :P

I agree I think that Gyrados should learn more flying moves, I don't want it to have mostly Fighting moves, give it Aerial Ace at least, GF!

Shadow01192 August 18th, 2010 9:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6082005)

Drought and Drizzle are signature Special abilities of Groudon and Kyogre...I don't see them being given to any other pokemon...

While I totally understand what you are saying I need to point out, Sand Stream and Snow Warning. The fact that non legendaries got these abilities imho makes light of the fact that only legendaries can make sun and rain. It's kinda like Groundon looking at Abomasnow "I make it sunny" and Abomasnow laughing and going "Sun what in the heck is that?"

The Doctor August 18th, 2010 9:15 AM

This :
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3934/mijumaruevolded.png
I Know its a fake but on the slightest chance the evo looks anything like that i will make it my personal mission to attack it any chance I get.

Rengoku August 18th, 2010 9:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6081367)
1st one. I completely agree. I hated the Follow Me feature. All HG/SS was was a Gold/Silver with Diamond/Pearl's Graphics and Game Freak added Crystal's story mixed into the main but ti played no major part in it and added Yellow's Pikachu follow feature. HG/SS was the biggest disappointment in Pokemon since Platinum.

Sorry, but HGSS is the most well loved by many here, for nostalgia sake, and for the follow me thing. I won't even go back to my Diamond and Platinum now.

Livewire August 18th, 2010 9:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6081367)
1st one. I completely agree. I hated the Follow Me feature. All HG/SS was was a Gold/Silver with Diamond/Pearl's Graphics and Game Freak added Crystal's story mixed into the main but ti played no major part in it and added Yellow's Pikachu follow feature. HG/SS was the biggest disappointment in Pokemon since Platinum.

Second and Third one. Sorry to say, but that's all there IS to Pokemon. The Plot is "Gotta Catch Them All and Become the Pokemon Master". There is nothing more than that. Colosseum and XD had a plot and see what they did to Pokemon catching in there. Pokemon with a major Plot isn't going to happen and something out side the Gym Leaders possibly won't ever be done because that's very un-Pokemon.


Something I don't want to see:

Evolutions and Pre=Evolutions to previous games. Its annoying to have them add on later. I think it was one of the most pointless additions. I don't want ANY evolutions and Pre-Evolutions in Gen 5. I was greatly disappointed in Mamebou's release. TTwTT Please no more Evolutions.

HGSS is the biggest dissapointment since Platinum?? It has sold 8.4 Million copies since it was released. So, i doubt that. Pretty much 99% of everybody on the site will disagree with you.

The only thing i dont want to see is the pointless phonecalls really. they're annoying

Gardenia101 August 18th, 2010 9:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Opera Ghost (Post 6083445)
This :
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3934/mijumaruevolded.png
I Know its a fake but on the slightest chance the evo looks anything like that i will make it my personal mission to attack it any chance I get.

lol it looks like a snowman :D

I really don't want to see so many stinkin water types. They drive me C-R-A-Z-Y!
I'm glad they're dumping Zubat and Tentacool in the fifth generation, though.

Weavile05 August 18th, 2010 10:19 AM

I don't want to see HMs that are unforgetable. I mean, you can keep HMs, but have a way to forget them easier than progressing halfway through the game to get access to a move deleter.

WarpstarX August 18th, 2010 10:27 AM

I don't wanna see only a handful of trainers in each route {exactly what they did in Ruby/Sapphire (somewhat fixed in Emerald). In other words I don't wanna have a team of three or even TWO! to have a decently leveled team.

Darkfire_Danny August 18th, 2010 10:41 AM

I don't want repetitive routes and locations; I'd love to travel to all different kinds of places as that would mean more unique habitats for Pokémon :) . Apart from the snowy bit near the end and the Volcano in the fight area place, DPPt was basically all grass/marsh locations which means nearly every route had boring Starly and Bidoof. I really don't see the point in having loads of routes next to each other that might as well just all be one combined route if they're all going to have the same scenery, same Pokémon and same challenges.

austy14 August 18th, 2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6083519)
HGSS is the biggest dissapointment since Platinum?? It has sold 8.4 Million copies since it was released. So, i doubt that. Pretty much 99% of everybody on the site will disagree with you.

The only thing i dont want to see is the pointless phonecalls really. they're annoying

Definitely. No more callin to say he still has a Rattata every f-ing 5 minutes.

coolnick37 August 18th, 2010 12:04 PM

:( I dont want any teams in my pokemon games, they tick me off, beacue theyre just stupid and incompetent, except for team magma and aqua, they had a cool hideout and were like actually trying to succeed instead of stupid rocket constantly having dumb grunts spouting nonsense and killing their own organization :@
Since we already got team plasma i hope they make it better involved into storyline then those guys before them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6082005)

Drought and Drizzle are signature Special abilities of Groudon and Kyogre...I don't see them being given to any other pokemon...

:S what would happen if groudon and kyogre were in the battle at the same time? Would it be raining or sunshine, or they would just cancel each other out.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 18th, 2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6083959)
:( I dont want any teams in my pokemon games, they tick me off, beacue theyre just stupid and incompetent, except for team magma and aqua, they had a cool hideout and were like actually trying to succeed instead of stupid rocket constantly having dumb grunts spouting nonsense and killing their own organization :@
Since we already got team plasma i hope they make it better involved into storyline then those guys before them.



:S what would happen if groudon and kyogre were in the battle at the same time? Would it be raining or sunshine, or they would just cancel each other out.

One of them cancels the other...I used to think we could have both..
I don't want only one Weather effect in play but two at least at a time ;)

coolnick37 August 18th, 2010 12:13 PM

Oh and I dont want to see move flash anymore

Darkfire_Danny August 18th, 2010 12:28 PM

Oh yeah, it would be nice if they cut down on the hax on trainers' (especially Gym Leaders and Elites) Pokémon. Blisseys with movesets like Softboiled, Protect, Double Team and Toxic are just annoying.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 18th, 2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkfire_Danny (Post 6084033)
Oh yeah, it would be nice if they cut down on the hax on trainers' (especially Gym Leaders and Elites) Pokémon. Blisseys with movesets like Softboiled, Protect, Double Team and Toxic are just annoying.

Yeah they are annoying but if it wasn't for moveset's like that than it wouldn't be OU now would it :)

Livewire August 18th, 2010 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6083818)
Definitely. No more callin to say he still has a Rattata every f-ing 5 minutes.

oh my god, when i get Pokegear calls it makes me want to smack my DSi. Really it does. some idiot calls you and is like "DUDE OMFG I TOTALLY CAUGHTZ A RATATTA TODAY I IZ HAPPY" Or maybe they can make the call feature again, but you can disable it or something. i woulnt mind that.

Blueknight August 18th, 2010 7:55 PM

I want the vs.Seeker back. In sinnoh and Kanto, rematching trainers was easy. I don't need a phone to complicate things. (or make things annoying)


I'm pretty much open to anything in this generation. It's just the phone thing I hate.

Cacttus August 18th, 2010 10:00 PM

  • Rock Climb as a Normal Type
  • Mom saving money option, completely useless if she keeps spending it
  • Me having to obtain running shoes to actually run, what kind of shoes am I wearing that I need to change them just to run
  • Dive/Whirlpool/Flash
  • The Traditional surf/waterfall/huge cave to get to the E4 they should mix it up now, like a long path or underground tunnel system
  • Honey Trees
  • Battle Tower system, I'd like more than a point for 10 battles
  • Wifi Room/ Why must I walk to the person, was scrolling so hard?
  • Mud/Swamp/Marsh They should at least decrease the amount times you can fall and the way to get out
  • The deep snow, can we get snow shoes like how in Emerald we had the Goggles for the sand storm
  • Zubat/Geodude Please reduce the amount of times I run into them.
  • A rival like the guy from HG/SS or a childhood friend like Barry, was it only me that thought he was on something; I wish I had his running shoes.
  • Underground digging place
I think it's established that no one likes the Cellphone, it's been repeated plenty of times. Yup


Astinus August 18th, 2010 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rellyms (Post 6085301)
Zubat/Geodude Please reduce the amount of times I run into them.

You're actually in luck. Zubat and Geodude are not going to appear in Isshu, since the Pokedex is completely full of new Pokemon, if I recall correctly.

Haha at the call feature. Really, I wouldn't mind if that changes to where they only call for battles/share items, which are really the reasons why I add trainers to the Pokegear. Just hearing about their top-percentage Rattata and picnics with Bulbasaur gets annoying.

austy14 August 18th, 2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rellyms (Post 6085301)
  • Mom saving money option, completely useless if she keeps spending it
  • Me having to obtain running shoes to actually run, what kind of shoes am I wearing that I need to change them just to run
  • The Traditional surf/waterfall/huge cave to get to the E4 they should mix it up now, like a long path or underground tunnel system
  • The deep snow, can we get snow shoes like how in Emerald we had the Goggles for the sand storm
  • Zubat/Geodude Please reduce the amount of times I run into them.
  • Underground digging place
I think it's established that no one likes the Cellphone, it's been repeated plenty of times. Yup


^^^ The ones agree with except the mom saving money one, I liked it. It saves your money like a bank so if you lose a battle and lose all your money and need to buy something you have money saved away. Plus in the original G/S/C your mom bought you actual good stuff, like decorations for your room. <--That should come back!

But I definetly want to see the underground gone. It served no purpose other than to dig up useless spheres and greet people for a spiritomb.

#Emochu September 1st, 2010 5:22 AM

I really don't want to see a fist appear when a punch move is used, I don't care what you say that it has already been showed in the videos, its probably a beta version or they won't put it in the third game.

Also I want to see the player ridingbthe pokemon overworld when using HMs like surf, not riding a stupid blob. Seriously what is that blue thing supposed to be a vehicle or something?

croagunk_gangsta September 1st, 2010 7:37 AM

well i am super excited for the new games but the only thing that turns me off is the fact that they are creating another set of never before seen pokemon. mix that with the fact that none of the previous pokemon ever made wont be in the game until you beat it. i love pokemon. i fall in love with certain ones and know what types and which pokemon to have. his just throws everything off the tracks for me. quality over quantity. we cant keep digesting new pokemon every two years. plus the variations on the artwork of new pokemon keep getting stranger and stranger for me. i primarily play TGC and this means alot more money spent to buy new cards of brand new pokemon and this also means that previous sets will be illegal very soon.

is there anyone out there at all that agrees with me?!?!?!?!!!!1!!!

solarowl September 1st, 2010 7:47 AM

well lets see...
get rid of trainers calling you
get better move designs
underground was useless
and maybe something new for a route lik eit transports you in the sky or in space....

SocialD September 1st, 2010 7:50 AM

There really are three things that I would KILL not to see anymore.
-Flash
-New HMS
-ZUBAT.

That really about sums it up :P

Chaos Uxie September 1st, 2010 7:53 AM

i dont care bout othere things all i want is to remove those fishermans with magikarps and buggers with only wrumple or some poke like that coz they are the annoying thing ever and juice up the trainers AI so that they can put some challenge and also remove evolution mechanics which depend on trading coz that sucks XD

bblord September 1st, 2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6083966)

One of them cancels the other...I used to think we could have both..
I don't want only one Weather effect in play but two at least at a time ;)

Actually, if I remember correctly, it starts the weather of the faster one, then immediately cancels that and begins the weather of the slower pokemon.

Anyways, things I don't want to see:

I don't ever want to see Defog/Flash areas. Ever.

I don't want HMs that are unforgettable. With the removal of item storage, we always have HMs on us, so there's no point in keeping them unforgettable. We get stuck, worse case scenario we temporarily relearn the HM.

Stealth rock (at its current power). Severely hinders the viablilty of many potentially cool pokemon with a 1 turn setup. Made worse by the fact that so many things can learn it.

Slow walking speed. I liked in HG/SS that you could keep run on without having to hold the B button.

Voltorb flip. I'm decent enough at at, but I much prefer the slots...its classic pokemon!

I also don't want to remain unknown even after beating the Elite 4/champion. People need to recognize me if I talk to them. Add additional dialog. If you take the challenge again, have the Elite 4 recognize you, trash talking about how they've gotten better since the last time. Have trainers you've met re-challenge you to see if they can beat a Champion. At least have people in your own hometown congratulate you! Let players own the title. It can add to the post-game experience.

I don't want to see so many legendaries either. Its being overdone now. On a related note, lets tone down the mythology behind them as well...I mean, in the case of Arceus, you're basically saying a 10-year old kid with a metal ball captured the power of an alleged God.

Lastly, I don't want Honey Tree's to come back. Call me spoiled, but I much prefer the instant gratification of Headbutt over slathering honey on trees.

Rankurusu September 1st, 2010 2:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081917)
I don't want to see a small plot this gen like that of team Rocket...

I agree totally, I can't a weak plot! I'm hoping for a big plot like that of Platinum version or Emerald version.

Also I want them to skip the battle tower and get right to battle fronteir. Pearl and Diamond would have been better with a whole battle fronteir instead of just the battle tower.

Oh yea, and I also don't want to see location eveloutions, those were just annoying.

Jolteonmaster2 September 1st, 2010 4:54 PM

Man, you people in here are angry. :P

- The lack of the ability to buy coins with your money.
- Pokemon not following you anymore. Otherwise, you're lonely. ;.;
- Another Rock and Water gym... get rid of one, please?
- Lack of the automatic running button.

Weavile05 September 1st, 2010 4:59 PM

I don't want to see the follow-me feature go away. I REALLY don't want another rock gym as the first gym. I really don't want to have to hold the B-button to run. so basically I agree with the guy above me. Plus, I want forgettable HMs

Luck September 1st, 2010 5:15 PM

I don't want to see most of the new pokemon in the new games. No joke, most of them are mediocre at best.

abood321 September 1st, 2010 5:22 PM

I don't want to see any gym leader or elite 4 have pokemon that is not of his type
like flint in diamond/pearl

Jaiyke September 1st, 2010 5:40 PM

i don't want a Victory Road as a Cave Anymore
i'm a huge fan of elaborate labyrinths and would like to see a huge labyrinth
with hidden passageways and junk! xDD and it would be nice if it's random and not Linear
i dont want to see people looking on walkthroughs for help xDD sounds very evil but it would be nice xDD

NOT just Cave Pokemon in Victory Road either e.g (Onix, Zubat, Machoke etc.) buhh!
i want every kind of random encounter possible xDD
Grass, Water, Trees(for strong Bug Types), Volcanic/Fire area etc. etc. within it
so it's not such a pain to level up your Party prior to the E4 and Champion

bblord September 1st, 2010 5:59 PM

Oh one more thing:
I don't want to see another Fire/Fighting starter.

Katja September 1st, 2010 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaiyke (Post 6121527)
i don't want a Victory Road as a Cave Anymore
i'm a huge fan of elaborate labyrinths and would like to see a huge labyrinth
with hidden passageways and junk! xDD and it would be nice if it's random and not Linear
i dont want to see people looking on walkthroughs for help xDD sounds very evil but it would be nice xDD

NOT just Cave Pokemon in Victory Road either e.g (Onix, Zubat, Machoke etc.) buhh!
i want every kind of random encounter possible xDD
Grass, Water, Trees(for strong Bug Types), Volcanic/Fire area etc. etc. within it
so it's not such a pain to level up your Party prior to the E4 and Champion

if they make a big labyrinth, i'm rage quitting.

i agree with everyone about the cell phone. it's soo annoying.

but yesterday on my jap version of SS, this guy called me right in the beginning of the game and gave me a berry. how sweet~

Totaldile September 1st, 2010 11:24 PM

I'm tired of contntly having to run away from wild pokemon in victory road. Just decease the encounter rate! It's so simple yet apparently so hard.

Sora's Nobody September 2nd, 2010 9:02 AM

I would like the encounter rate in general to be lower, Well.. Espicially the places where your to stressed to think about encountering pokemon, Like above, The victory road. You're confused enough as it is.

Kanto_Johto September 2nd, 2010 9:46 AM

^ I actually like that. Makes for a better challenge.

Sora's Nobody September 2nd, 2010 9:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6122932)
^ I actually like that. Makes for a better challenge.

Yeah i guess, but i just get frustrated. But doesnt matter ive always got 99 max repels :P

Sora's Nobody September 2nd, 2010 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 6122950)
When I switch between playing Diamond and playing HeartGold, I'm always annoyed by the pauses that occur in between messages during a Diamond Version battle. I really hope they don't have those long pauses in any future games.

Well some fo the reasons the game is slow-paced all in all (i've heard) Is because The games were on a completly new engine, and alot of graphics had to run at the same time. You would never see a gba game load or even think about something (almost) as they only have a picture to display.

Sora's Nobody September 2nd, 2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 6123002)
If that was a result of switching to a new engine, then they should probably have worked more on it so that it didn't need to pause as much. In that case there was certainly a progression in that aspect from Diamond (new engine, long pause) to HeartGold (same engine as Diamond, but unnoticeable pause). If the new games use an even newer engine, hopefully they've worked that out already.

Well there was even a big change from diamond and pearl to platinum, which was much more fast paced. I dont know if you noticed but after a while in D/P the load times increase when enetering through doors (in and out). I am positive that their using a new engine and i would expect a few slow-times.

Ho-Oh September 3rd, 2010 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6122840)
I would like the encounter rate in general to be lower, Well.. Espicially the places where your to stressed to think about encountering pokemon, Like above, The victory road. You're confused enough as it is.

Yeah as mentioned, it's meant to be challenging. If anything, I think they'll increase the encounter rate, considering it's a new region, new Pokemon to discover and get to know, so...idk, I think wild Pokemon in caves will be more common than before sadly. :(

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 6:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6125190)


Yeah as mentioned, it's meant to be challenging. If anything, I think they'll increase the encounter rate, considering it's a new region, new Pokemon to discover and get to know, so...idk, I think wild Pokemon in caves will be more common than before sadly. :(

What makes you think that?(cave) But yeah i get what you mean with the new region thing.

AliceBlaze September 3rd, 2010 7:57 AM

I hope B/W won't have a battle frontier in it. I don't like battle frontiers because they're too hard for me. I won't mind if there was just a battle tower and hopefully the new battle subway will be better.

I also don't want to have to take up too much space in my party with HM slaves when I'm on Victory Road.

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 8:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliceBlaze (Post 6125420)
I hope B/W won't have a battle frontier in it. I don't like battle frontiers because they're too hard for me. I won't mind if there was just a battle tower and hopefully the new battle subway will be better.

I also don't want to have to take up too much space in my party with HM slaves when I'm on Victory Road.

Yeah i never went to the battle frontier. Well maybe there wont be HM's as such as now TM's are reusable.

pokewalker September 3rd, 2010 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6125435)
Yeah i never went to the battle frontier. Well maybe there wont be HM's as such as now TM's are reusable.

If there are no HM's, how can we fly then?
In a world without fly, i'm gonna cry.

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 8:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6125478)
If there are no HM's, how can we fly then?
In a world without fly, i'm gonna cry.

Well ok what i meant is that hm will still be there, but they will be at tabel level with tms. You would now be able to delete as you wish ect.. So if you HAVE to learn you pokemon fly, you could just learn it fly and then when your nearing your ultimate battle, force a tm down its throat.

StyxFTW September 3rd, 2010 8:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bblord (Post 6121578)
Oh one more thing:
I don't want to see another Fire/Fighting starter.

Don't worry it's not. My bet's on fire/dark though.

I hope the damn rival doesn't always bump in to you and that he challenges you less often. At least give the rival better Pokemon!

cyan. September 3rd, 2010 8:44 AM

i dont want to see super easy or super hard gym puzzles.
like, in DPPt, all you had to do in the first gym was walk up to roark and battle a couple of trainers.

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 8:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan. (Post 6125502)
i dont want to see super easy or super hard gym puzzles.
like, in DPPt, all you had to do in the first gym was walk up to roark and battle a couple of trainers.

Yeah i know, i dont want that either. And hopefully it wont be, but we never no its be like that for all most all first gyms.

AliceBlaze September 3rd, 2010 9:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6125478)
If there are no HM's, how can we fly then?
In a world without fly, i'm gonna cry.

You wouldn't need to teach the move to a Pokemon. Any flying type Pokemon should be able to carry you without teaching Fly.

The same should apply with water Pokemon and carrying you across the water without teaching it Surf.

Also, why can't a Pokemon just cut down trees or move and smash rocks without teaching them a move which is no good in battle?

Game Freak should listen to us more.

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliceBlaze (Post 6125614)
You wouldn't need to teach the move to a Pokemon. Any flying type Pokemon should be able to carry you without teaching Fly.

The same should apply with water Pokemon and carrying you across the water without teaching it Surf.

Also, why can't a Pokemon just cut down trees or move and smash rocks without teaching them a move which is no good in battle?

Game Freak should listen to us more.

Yeah, i know. But its part of the strategy. You have to think carefully about what pokemon should learn the move, yet will be able to beat x POKEMON.

The Red Chain September 3rd, 2010 10:29 AM

I don't want HMs to be non-sensible like they are now.
Nothing using Fly that is smaller than you. No Surfing Piplup, Tauros, Rhydon, or Linoone.

Things like that. It doesn't make any senseeee. D:


Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6125731)

I don't want HMs to be non-sensible like they are now.
Nothing using Fly that is smaller than you. No Surfing Piplup, Tauros, Rhydon, or Linoone.

Things like that. It doesn't make any senseeee. D:


Yeah i know what you mean, like a flying pidgeot. Points to the funny comic.

Volroc September 3rd, 2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6125478)
If there are no HM's, how can we fly then?
In a world without fly, i'm gonna cry.

:cer_laugh: that rhymed, i dunno if it was intentional or not, but its still awesome :cer_laugh:

i dont wanna see the common normal type& its evolution on every single route...
ill go mad people...
bidoofs... so many bidoofs...
its just way too annoying :(

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6125869)
:cer_laugh: that rhymed, i dunno if it was intentional or not, but its still awesome :cer_laugh:

i dont wanna see the common normal type& its evolution on every single route...
ill go mad people...
bidoofs... so many bidoofs...
its just way too annoying :(

Yeah i know what you mean, the routes wild pokemon should have more variety.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 3rd, 2010 11:45 AM

I don't want to see only one cave or two, instead we should have 3 :D!

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6125921)
I don't want to see only one cave or two, instead we should have 3 :D!

Hha well if you look at the map it does look like there is more than 2.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 3rd, 2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6125942)
Hha well if you look at the map it does look like there is more than 2.

I hope so :D!
I also don't want to see easy puzzles, we need a challenge, make the little kids cry if you have to GF, just make them stressful :D!

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6125949)

I hope so :D!
I also don't want to see easy puzzles, we need a challenge, make the little kids cry if you have to GF, just make them stressful :D!

Yeah make the games 18+ (not that i am) And make the cavessuper ahrd to get rhough. Also the game should a a foggy maze.


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