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coolnick37 August 20th, 2010 5:35 PM

Family roles in B/W
 
Will there finally be a father in pokemon B/W, and what do you think his role in game will be?
For me it was weird that they always had mother but no father, except for R/S/E
Since B/W features more advanced storyline, I believe that they might reintroduce him again, maybe even as a champion, or an E4

Weatherman, Kiyoshi August 20th, 2010 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6090309)
Will there finally be a father in pokemon B/W, and what do you think his role in game will be?
For me it was weird that they always had mother but no father, except for R/S/E
Since B/W features more advanced storyline, I believe that they might reintroduce him again, maybe even as a champion, or an E4

Here's a nice idea:

Your dad stays at home, and saves you money (but actually buys you useful items like stones once you've reached a certain point), while your mother is a distant wandering trainer that you battle a couple times, besides playing some roles in the plot. However, just before you beat the elite four, she is in the same position as you (about to enter the elite four) and battles you. In beating her, she returns home to train in the backyard or be around town, and you can battle her once every day. And a random number generator decides when she leaves the town occasionally and be in a random place or town, where if you find her, she'll give you a really neat useful rare idem.
(c) Weatherman, Kiyoshi and Doubleglalzingcomics

NOW THAT'S A REFRESHING FREAKING IDEA.

But yeah, I hope they put in a dad this time. X3

Timbjerr August 20th, 2010 8:40 PM

If N doesn't turn out to be the head of Team Plasma, I'd like to see the real boss admin turn out to be the protagonist's father. Vader style...like a boss. :D

Alternatively, they can pull a Cartman's Mom switch on us...just for the lulz. XD

countryemo August 20th, 2010 8:43 PM

I though your dad was already confirmed (no pic)
or it was speculation.
I remember some news/leaks w.e.
about your dad is a archelogiest(sp) (mom to i think? maybe just dad)
he helps you along some points. so yea

-Jared- August 20th, 2010 9:12 PM

I really hope they actually show a stable nuclear family (other than RSE, and even then, the father stayed in Petalburg most of this time.). That fact that most of the protagnists have single mothers is kinda strange to me. :/

Chiki August 20th, 2010 11:45 PM

Maybe your dad saves the money (and buys stuff) and then the mom just heals you at home?

coolnick37 August 21st, 2010 1:14 AM

noooo, why would father stay home and mother battle!? Women cant battle(jk ofc) i would like if the father was a champion, and the protagonists entire motive to beat the pokemon league was to surpass his dad. Since in previous gens, he went to pokemon league mostly because he was bored, like oak told him he could do that and etc. no real motive.

Darkfire_Danny August 21st, 2010 1:58 AM

I like the idea of dad being an Elite Four member actually, the Rival should be Champion again - Blue in Generation 1 had the most varied team and offered the most challenge :) . If not, dad could just be the Battle Tower leader or something, but that would be a bit lame :P .

King Gumball August 21st, 2010 3:07 AM

I liked Timbjerr's idea of the Plasma boss being the father. The mother however In my opinion, I am 90% sure she will be a retired Musical champion (Just how Dawn's mum was a retired Poke Coordinator).

mrunner4home August 21st, 2010 3:28 AM

I like the idea of having a mother and a father on opposite teams.

like...at various points through the storyline mom helps you out but dad turns out to be the head of team plasma :) but they both live separate lives back home.

like...at the beginning of the game mom and dad are both at home and seem normal, but then later on you need help and mom helps you by revealing cool spy stuff and such, and then near the end (after already have been battling team plasma)....like mt coronet in d/p/pl you meat the boss face to face, it turns out dad's there. then he battles you saying something like "I really hate to have fight my own son/daughter but no one may stand in the way of the mighty team plasma! Your story ends now, -insert name here-!"

how awesome would that be?

Perriechu August 21st, 2010 4:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Weatherman, Kiyoshi (Post 6090352)
Here's a nice idea:

Your dad stays at home, and saves you money (but actually buys you useful items like stones once you've reached a certain point), while your mother is a distant wandering trainer that you battle a couple times, besides playing some roles in the plot. However, just before you beat the elite four, she is in the same position as you (about to enter the elite four) and battles you. In beating her, she returns home to train in the backyard or be around town, and you can battle her once every day. And a random number generator decides when she leaves the town occasionally and be in a random place or town, where if you find her, she'll give you a really neat useful rare idem.
(c) Weatherman, Kiyoshi and Doubleglalzingcomics

NOW THAT'S A REFRESHING FREAKING IDEA.

But yeah, I hope they put in a dad this time. X3

This is a great idea, for once the Mother would actually do something other than just sit at home at that table for hours on end... the Father has had their turn (R/S/E) now it's time for the Mother's xD

Precious Tears August 21st, 2010 4:18 AM

Yeah... We should have a father in B/W...
Coz' the previous games,
it's like the mother is widowed or divorced :'(

Kanto_Johto August 21st, 2010 4:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6091278)
This is a great idea, for once the Mother would actually do something other than just sit at home at that table for hours on end... the Father has had their turn (R/S/E) now it's time for the Mother's xD

The Father in R/S/E was a Gym Leader, and that was it. He was never a 'wandering trainer' or 'challenged you to battle at certain points in the game, still in relation to the plot'. So he hasn't 'had his turn' at all.

The last thing I want to see is the Protagonist's parents as Rival figures. Head of Team Plasma maybe, but even then that would have to be the Father. Your Mother as head would just be.....weird.

Sewzie August 21st, 2010 5:50 AM

^
I think that would be quite interesting. Having the mother as head of Team Plasma, I mean.
I think it would be cool if your/the father would head the Pokemon daycare, or be the the one who develops the PC storage.

coolnick37 August 21st, 2010 6:40 AM

nuuuuuuh i dont wanna nerdy father taht dont do battle :( he needs to be a champion, e4 or atleast a gym leader, and mother should partake in pokemon musicals

Weatherman, Kiyoshi August 21st, 2010 7:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sewzie (Post 6091386)
^
I think that would be quite interesting. Having the mother as head of Team Plasma, I mean.
I think it would be cool if your/the father would head the Pokemon daycare, or be the the one who develops the PC storage.

It would be a real good twist if your mom was the head instead of the whole "Darth Vader" twist that's been a thousand times with your dad. Especially if you aren't inspecting it, and random points in your journey you see her and then it all makes sense in the end what she's doing there.
(c) Weatherman, Kiyoshi and Doubleglalzingcomics


What? These ideas I'm coming up with are awesome material. :3


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Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6091465)
nuuuuuuh i dont wanna nerdy father taht dont do battle :( he needs to be a champion, e4 or atleast a gym leader, and mother should partake in pokemon musicals


....why? I think it's actually quite a refreshing idea. Not every father is the whole "bold" fighting figure.

coolnick37 August 21st, 2010 7:24 AM

:,( yes it does :P haha but yeah id love too if mother was the leader of team plasma, but ofcourse the father would have to be champion than ;F

Sewzie August 21st, 2010 8:03 AM

^
Haha, that would be something like a good vs. evil, father vs. mother thing if it would go that way (considering your father, as the champion, doesn't side w/ Team Plasma).

Matt-O August 21st, 2010 8:20 AM

An involved mother villian father champion plot would be interesting. I know the Gym Leaders and Pkmn League frame will always be there but Pkmn really needs a better story. Maybe if the hero lived with his grandparents (father's side), knowing that his father was the champ but having no knowledge of his mother, who Grandma and Grandpa are not very keen to talk about.

coolnick37 August 21st, 2010 8:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-O (Post 6091614)
An involved mother villian father champion plot would be interesting. I know the Gym Leaders and Pkmn League frame will always be there but Pkmn really needs a better story. Maybe if the hero lived with his grandparents (father's side), knowing that his father was the champ but having no knowledge of his mother, who Grandma and Grandpa are not very keen to talk about.

Thats a little too complex for a pokemon story, and too much family members.

Arolu August 21st, 2010 8:51 AM

I think it could be quick and simple if they just turned one of Proffessor Araragi's technicians into your Father. (Like they done with the counterplayer in Sinnoh). That way, he could come and tell you some tactical stuff and help with Pokedex stuff.
While your Mother could probably just pop by ocassionally in different towns for a holiday (and ask if your wearing fresh underwear) and possibly give you a helpful item along the way. Now those and good parents! Not like the ones who just sit at tables and stare blankly at TV's reminiscing about the Super Contest's they once attended.

Weatherman, Kiyoshi August 21st, 2010 8:52 AM

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Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6091641)
Thats a little too complex for a pokemon story, and too much family members.

No it's not.
A champion father, and unknown mother, and a pair of grandparents does not overflow family cap.

Maybe you're not looking at this with an open mind enough. XD

coolnick37 August 21st, 2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Weatherman, Kiyoshi (Post 6091654)
No it's not.
A champion father, and unknown mother, and a pair of grandparents does not overflow family cap.

Maybe you're not looking at this with an open mind enough. XD

Not with an open mind? :S i dont understand what for i need to have open mind about this.
Maybe ur just exaggerating this a little bit, cause pokemon games have always had a simple storyline, of course as we got new gens they evolved into more complex ones. But Adding all those stuff wouldnt fit, like having an unknown mother, that sound more like some kind of drama. And by having a father and grandparents as a part of the household, that just doesnt follow the pattern, that we have always had, mother was always a basis on a start of every pokemon challenge. It just doesnt make sense to start living with your grandparents and your father now -.-

dragon0fangz August 21st, 2010 10:24 AM

they have a lot of nonfamily characters, i dont care for family characters. Its like "Mom gave you some berries" but she's not my mom. so make family a complete mystery.

Matt-O August 21st, 2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6091806)
Not with an open mind? :S i dont understand what for i need to have open mind about this.
Maybe ur just exaggerating this a little bit, cause pokemon games have always had a simple storyline, of course as we got new gens they evolved into more complex ones. But Adding all those stuff wouldnt fit, like having an unknown mother, that sound more like some kind of drama. And by having a father and grandparents as a part of the household, that just doesnt follow the pattern, that we have always had, mother was always a basis on a start of every pokemon challenge. It just doesnt make sense to start living with your grandparents and your father now -.-

I was just taking the ideas that were being discussed and expounding a bit. There are plenty of things they are more likely to do, but I do think story needs to come into play more than it has. At a certain point, you can't make the same game over and over again. In the gamecube versions they tried for a little bit of story, and it made those games much more unique. Yes they will still keep the basic structure of go become the champ, but why shouldn't other events occur along the way?


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