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Deaths Jaws November 23rd, 2004 9:58 PM

Salamence moveset querie
 
ok im making a Salamence on by Ruby cart and have got this setup so far for a physical sweeper.

here he is:

Salamence:
@ Leftovers
Adamant 252 Att/129 Speed/129 HP

- Dragon Dance
- Double Edge <-- still unsure but the best move i can come up with atm
- Aerial Ace
- Brick Break

I'mnot using Earthquake or rockslide to replace Double Edge as i cannot breed Slide onto him and dont have Earthquake TM anymore.

so what are your suggestions? bare in mind im only playing RUBY and dont have access to any other games and have no TM's left except for the buyable ones.

thanks everyone in advance

Jaws...

Mana Lugia November 23rd, 2004 10:27 PM

Flamethrower/Fire blast? **** pesky skarms >_>

Deaths Jaws November 23rd, 2004 11:56 PM

my friends never use skarm so i dont need a fire attack on him at all (they dont know how to use him at all and hense see him as a cruddy pokemon)

so anything other than a fire type attack? anyone know?

Joey145 November 24th, 2004 12:06 AM

why u don't use that move? I would use Fire Blast

Deaths Jaws November 24th, 2004 12:52 AM

like i said fire blast is a wasted space for me on this build as the sole purpose id have it is for Sarkm but i will never see him because my friends hate him and never use him at all hence y i dont want it

Toothache November 24th, 2004 2:46 AM

Random question - you have your Salamence's HP type? I know this is ingame, so I was wondering if you knew what it was (assuming you know his EV setup)

EDIT: If you want to show just how annoying Skarmory can be, why not let your friends find out? ;-)

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EV: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def
Nature: + Def/Att, - Sp Att
Toxic
Drill Peck/HP Ground
Roar
Spikes

Run from special attackers, and stick around for physical attackers. Consider HP Ground only if you want to take out Magneton which can stop you running away (although you'll probably need some Speed EV and a + Speed nature to pull that off. Interestingly enough, my own L100 Skarmory has a + Speed nature and HP Ground - base damage 54)

Deaths Jaws November 24th, 2004 3:55 AM

ill give it a go once ive trained up my primary team :) i think it will be a very unwelcome suprise for them. ive got a breeding chain started for Salamence atm so im concentrating on that right now...going to give up on that last move and give it flame thrower or fire blast. which one is better? (remember im not playing net battle so i can use PP Up's for Fire Blast if needed...my friends use them so im going to also)

Jaws...

IceKitten November 24th, 2004 5:12 AM

I've got the Drill Peck Skar! Can Drill Peck be bred onto it? Because I got my Drill Peck from Colosseum :P

Deaths Jaws November 25th, 2004 2:22 AM

i think it can be bred onto him...i think i read it somewere but i cant find it atm and i have NO idea what the breeding chain would be.

Jaws....

Toothache November 25th, 2004 3:32 AM

Easiest way to get Drill Peck onto Skarmory - breed with Doduo/Dodrio.

Mullet November 25th, 2004 7:29 AM

Without Earthquake or Rock Slide this will be a bit harder.

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Nature Adamant
EVs:Attack, and Speed
Dragon Dance
Double Edge
Brick Break
Flamethrower/Fire Blast

This was weird not putting Earthquake or Rock Slide on him.

Toothache November 25th, 2004 7:49 AM

And the great part is all of those moves can be bred to Salamence (I know this is for in-game purposes, so it's helpful to know it's possible to breed as well). Although it is weird to see him without Earthquake or Rock Slide.

Mullet November 25th, 2004 7:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toothache
And the great part is all of those moves can be bred to Salamence (I know this is for in-game purposes, so it's helpful to know it's possible to breed as well). Although it is weird to see him without Earthquake or Rock Slide.

That's what I said, because those are like staples on him. :D

Kholdstaire November 25th, 2004 9:12 AM

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Modest
252 Speed, 168 Attack, 90 Special Attack
-Dragon Dance
-Aerial Ace/Return
-Brick Break/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw/Fire Blast

Mullet November 25th, 2004 9:58 AM

Did you notice it's useless to suggest Earthquake because he doesn't have it because he already used it.

Kholdstaire November 25th, 2004 10:31 AM

Did you notice he could trade with his friends? =0

Mana Lugia November 25th, 2004 10:56 AM

Well, I think in this case he was implying he would not be trying to get another EQ on Salamence.

But really, Salam's physical movepool is limited after Quake and what you already have, so you might as well go fire blast/flamethrower incase they pull a forretress/scizor/skarm/steelix on you.

Shuckle November 25th, 2004 2:17 PM

Or any thing else its good against. (( ICE )) :L

HellishHades November 25th, 2004 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuckle
Or any thing else its good against. (( ICE )) :L

And there's really that many usable Ice-types. Besides,

Rock Slide (after several Dragon Dances) > Fire Blast
on Lapras or Regice.

Mana Lugia November 25th, 2004 5:50 PM

Well, Brick break too so... =D

Deaths Jaws November 25th, 2004 10:40 PM

well the thing is if you use dragon dance whilst against an Ice type can you really risk taking a STABed Ice Beam? 4x weakness + STAB = dead salamence no matter were you put your EV's

just an observation

Jaws...

Shuckle November 26th, 2004 4:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellishHades
And there's really that many usable Ice-types. Besides,

Rock Slide (after several Dragon Dances) > Fire Blast
on Lapras or Regice.

You forgot Jynx. Possibly one of the best ice types. And Jynx > Lapras. =0

But Regice > Jynx

Toothache November 26th, 2004 4:45 AM

Lapras > Jynx < Regice. Lapras can Roar Jynx away while she tries to CM, or just use Body Slam to pick on her low defence + paralysis.

Shuckle November 26th, 2004 10:53 AM

IMHO, CM Jynx is crap. =/

I use this set and pwn all over people. :-P

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Modest/Timid
Fake Tears/Something Else
Lovely Kiss/Something Else
Ice Beam
Psychic

I'm fairly sure that CB goes with any attack correct?

Toothache November 26th, 2004 11:43 AM

Choice Band only affects physical moves, so it's useless on Jynx (and what do you do after Lovely Kiss? You have to switch for a turn anyway and there goes one precious round of sleep assuming they kept in, and another round if you want to put Jynx back in the fight) Lum Berry is the item of choice for Jynx, she's nowhere near a tank or worthy enough for Leftovers.


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