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tkallab November 17th, 2010 8:40 AM

Well some dragons have feathered wings. Just saying.
I'm knid of interested what makes you think he's a chicken, apart from the obvious feathers. But alright, this'll come later. Does anyone have a new topic?

dragoniteuser November 17th, 2010 10:40 AM

Wait tkallab, who ever told you that the only thing that separates dragons and wyverns (also, wyverns ARE dragons!) is that they walk on hind legs, and that they have wings with claws???? There are dragons with only two feet and two wings. the thing that separates those two is that wyverns have poisonus stings on their tails!!!
Look:

Wyvern
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/eo_wyvern_med_dh292.jpg

Dragon
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1406/dragon14.jpg
http://flavorwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hungarianhorntail.jpg

tkallab November 17th, 2010 11:01 AM

Yes, wyverns are dragons, I meant to say that. But what makes wyverns different from -most- other dragons is that they have hind legs and wings. If you google 'dragon', most results will have four legs and wings. But all results you get from 'wyvern' have only two hindlegs and claws on their wings.
And who says those dragon pictures of yours aren't wyverns? If wyvers are dragons, wouldn't it be logical if you'd get some wyverns too when looking for wyverns? I can bet you you'll get some monkeys too when you're searching for apes.

dragoniteuser November 17th, 2010 11:06 AM

LOLOLOLOL
Sorry tkallab but this is one of the funniest posts I've read in some time... XD
Ok let's clear this stuff for you:
Dragons can have either 2 or 4 legs.
Wyverns have 2 legs.
Dragons spit fire.
Wyverns are poisonus.
Wyverns are dragon kind!
Rest assure, theese pictures I've posted are sorted the right way!

Xilfer November 17th, 2010 11:55 AM

God! i just don't like Reshiram's desighn END OF STORY! if you wanna discuss the difference beetween dragon and wyvern, i got the word for ya: VM
after all that's technically offtopic because it's not about pokemon.
ok, new topic: Name your dream Dragon team, and why you want to have a dragon team like that.

tkallab November 17th, 2010 12:15 PM

Okay, but Game Freak probably designed him with a wyvern in mind. And a jet engine. Even Bulbapedia says Reshiram's based on a wyvern.

I had something else to say, but I forgot it.

By the way, this is definitely not offtopic, because we're discussion Reshiram.

dragoniteuser November 17th, 2010 1:24 PM

Well my dream dragon team would be Dragonite, Salamence, Charizard, Gyarados, Flygon, Aerodactyl.
Oh wait, I already have this team! :D

Xilfer November 17th, 2010 1:30 PM

oh, right.
well anyway, if i wanted a team of dragons that is composed of all the dragons i like, (that means it dosen't neccecerily have to be balanced) it would be:
dragonite.
salamence
giratina
kingdra
flygon/ononokus
garchomp/Sazandaro

but thats purely for fun, if i wanted a good dragon team ready to take on the E4 or pros via wifi, i think i would pick a more balanced team.

tkallab November 17th, 2010 1:33 PM

Then it's not really a dream team is it?

A dream team, huh? Charizard, Salamence, Latios, Garchomp, Lugia and Reshiram. I have no idea if that will work very well competitively... But everything works in-game.

Xilfer November 17th, 2010 1:35 PM

you allways have to comment on the little details, dont you?

tkallab November 17th, 2010 1:42 PM

You always have to ninja me, don't you?

...Hey Xilfer, do you have Pokémon Online?

Xilfer November 17th, 2010 2:26 PM

What's that?
dragonz rulez! im not off topic!
(learnt that trick from you tkallab)

tkallab November 17th, 2010 3:29 PM

Haha! I taught you well, my boy!

Pokémon online is a battle simulator. It's for online battles, for people who don't wanna train their Pokémon all the way. I was thinking, we could build our Dragon teams on there and fight eachother. Just a random idea.

Xilfer November 17th, 2010 3:38 PM

Hm, since i got nothing to do but go on my ultimate monotype challenge, i think i'll give it a try, master.
LOLOL.

tkallab November 17th, 2010 3:51 PM

Good. You can get all the knowledge one could wish for at smogon. With a little luck, I will see you in the arena tomorrow. Bring the strongest dragons you possess.

Xilfer November 17th, 2010 3:56 PM

very well.
(if i have any, that is, i'll have to go get some first.)

tkallab November 17th, 2010 4:05 PM

You can just create a team there, you know. Easy to try, hard to master.
Wanna include generation V dragons?

zapdos926 November 17th, 2010 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will94 (Post 6292815)
Ah, every living human with a functional brain...

Have you ever heard of quetzequoatal (think I spelled it right), the Aztec feathered dragon god? Just because European dragons don't have feathers doesn't mean others don't, I'm pretty sure some kind of Asian dragon has feathers too, and in pokemon: [email protected]

More on topic: [email protected], zekrom, lugia, charizard, kindra

tkallab November 17th, 2010 10:18 PM

Wasn't Quetzalcoatl a snake? I'm pretty sure Jarooda/Jalorda was based on it...

zapdos926 November 18th, 2010 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6294466)
Wasn't Quetzalcoatl a snake?.

no, not snake: feathered serpant dragon beast god

Xilfer November 18th, 2010 5:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6293870)
You can just create a team there, you know. Easy to try, hard to master.
Wanna include generation V dragons?


Yes i would, is that possible?
and what's a quardanzula snake, or, whatever you said.
hey welcome back tribal ebony:)

tkallab November 18th, 2010 6:08 AM

It's Quetzalcoatl. It's an Inca god, if I remember correctly. I looked him up once in order to make a cool English name for Jarooda/Jalorda.

Well, if you're sure he's a dragon, then that's only good! Thanks for looking that up, Zapdos!

And yes, Pokémon Online is the only simulator with Generation V at the moment, Xilfer.

Time Guardian November 18th, 2010 6:23 AM

Actually Quetzalcotl is an Aztec god. Also there's the Amphithere, which is also a feathered serpent, but is sometimes classified as a dragon.

Either way, Dragons can have feathers, so who says that they can't?

tkallab November 18th, 2010 6:26 AM

Yeah, if there is even one person in the world who drew a feathered dragon, they exist. It's as easy as that.

Xilfer November 18th, 2010 6:30 AM

Ok, cool, but i tried again and it said it wasn't working.
but i'm getting to off topic for my pants, LOLLOL.
Ok, anybody else interested in sharing a dragon team or are we all done?

Dooonerz November 18th, 2010 8:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilfer123 (Post 6294768)
Ok, cool, but i tried again and it said it wasn't working.
but i'm getting to off topic for my pants, LOLLOL.
Ok, anybody else interested in sharing a dragon team or are we all done?

Well I have a Pokemon-Online account, and 2 of my team members are dragons (ononokusu + sazandora) if that counts.... <3

Xilfer November 18th, 2010 11:10 AM

Yeah it does, but we really need to get back on topic a certain moderater comes to shut us down.
ok, new topic: For all those who can, draw/sprite your own dragon fakemon, for those who are too lazy (thaats right i'm lookin at you coolnick) or can't, just describe your fakemon instead.
(by the way, i kid about coolnick)

dragoniteuser November 18th, 2010 11:12 AM

So I guess noone was listening when I was writing about quetzocoatls...
First off, quetzocoatls are dragons, not gods. Second they DO NOT have feathers!
And in my opinion, there aren't any dragons with feathers. Feathers are caratheristic of birds only, and dragons are reptiles!

tkallab November 18th, 2010 11:19 AM

Some keywords from Wikipedia:

Mesoamerican Deity
Feathered Serpent
patron god of the Aztec priesthood, of learning and knowledge
one of several important gods

If I wasn't such a nice person, I'd say 'In your face'.

Amore November 18th, 2010 11:30 AM

Cool it guys......let's all answer Xilfer's nice unargumentative topic now...

Although I won't, as despite being a leftie, I'm only creative at random moments, and this ain't one....

Speaking of Xilfer...I have a feeling that sig's going to be too big when the new rules come in next Thursday...

tkallab November 18th, 2010 11:50 AM

Isn't it already too big..? I dunno, I haven't checked it.

I'll make a fakemon later, I exhausted all my creativity for today. But it's gonna have feathers dammit.

Amore November 18th, 2010 12:09 PM

Lol...probably, but it's definitely too big at the moment.

Btw, Zekrom/Reshiram probably have feathers, and they're dragons until we vote....so why not? Draggy's right when comparing all dragons I've ever known of...but that doesn't mean you're wrong.

Speaking of Draggy....you're maybe only going for Yellow chapter there, but Lance has a Tyranitar.....sadly he doesn't appear to gain anything in Hg/Ss, but he has Tyranitar....and yes, this is PokeSpe Lance, not in-game Lance (who has never owned Tyranitar)

Silhouette November 18th, 2010 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6295140)
Lol...probably, but it's definitely too big at the moment.

Btw, Zekrom/Reshiram probably have feathers, and they're dragons until we vote....so why not? Draggy's right when comparing all dragons I've ever known of...but that doesn't mean you're wrong.

Speaking of Draggy....you're maybe only going for Yellow chapter there, but Lance has a Tyranitar.....sadly he doesn't appear to gain anything in Hg/Ss, but he has Tyranitar....and yes, this is PokeSpe Lance, not in-game Lance (who has never owned Tyranitar)

I can confirm the last statement. Just sayin'. XD

Also, I'm going to work on a description for the fakemon thing going on here. :P

Time Guardian November 18th, 2010 6:49 PM

I honestly don't have any sort of Dragon fakemon yet since I never even got around to one of my old, old ideas from 2 years ago, which I used to call the Brass Version project, the only fakemon I actually got to design from that is a Electric/Steel type called ArtifI. Which has nothing to do with dragons at all.

Maybe if I get bored and get a couple more sketches out of the way, I can try and come up with something for a Dragon fakemon, since back then I was considering on making the final forms of each of the starters to have Dragon as a secondary type.

dragoniteuser November 19th, 2010 2:06 AM

That Tyranitar was just returned to him by Silver(Lance gave Pupitar to Silver, but once it evolved Silver couldn't control it...), so technically, it's Silver's T-tar.
Trust me, I've read all chapters thoroughly(thanks to you Amore), and I know pretty much everything about Lance!
Just check my theme...

CHAZ The Cat November 19th, 2010 6:17 AM

I wouldn't consider Tyranitar a dragon either. I even doubt Aerodactyl's dragon capacity, but since Lance owns one, maybe in a distant, pre-fossilization time Aerodactyl was a dragon-type Pokémon. Now every fossil is a rock-type, so I give it the benefit of the doubt. Now tell me again why Lugia is a dragon?...
Also, Altaria is missing in your list, isn't it?

Xilfer November 19th, 2010 6:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6295074)
Cool it guys......let's all answer Xilfer's nice unargumentative topic now...

Although I won't, as despite being a leftie, I'm only creative at random moments, and this ain't one....

Speaking of Xilfer...I have a feeling that sig's going to be too big when the new rules come in next Thursday...


Thanks.
And hey! i made it as small as i could! theres loads of other stuff i'd like to put in there you know.
anyway, i posted this before but some guy called "Went" deleted it for being off-topic so this time ill be on topic.
right, i made a dragon pre evo for latios and latias once, i still have it in my folders, here it is:
Come on, now i'm on topic, right? LOL.
i'm sorry, bad quality imprinting AND felt tip pens:)

tkallab November 19th, 2010 6:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAZ The Cat (Post 6296248)
I wouldn't consider Tyranitar a dragon either. I even doubt Aerodactyl's dragon capacity, but since Lance owns one, maybe in a distant, pre-fossilization time Aerodactyl was a dragon-type Pokémon. Now every fossil is a rock-type, so I give it the benefit of the doubt. Now tell me again why Lugia is a dragon?...
Also, Altaria is missing in your list, isn't it?

Oh no you di'n't...

Don't qustion Lugia.

CHAZ The Cat November 19th, 2010 8:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6296259)
Oh no you di'n't...

Don't qustion Lugia.


LOL
Well put, sir.
Apparently it is a dragon (or a dragon-like dinossaur?), but not a dragon-type.

Amore November 19th, 2010 8:37 AM

Yeah.....and Altaria was argued out for having the characteristics of a bird, not a dragon (although I'm glad it's not normal/flying-typed, I love its' defensiveness and non-weakness to Electricity - the former sets it out from most dragons (and it can still hit hard), and the latter sets it out from birds.

CHAZ The Cat November 19th, 2010 9:20 AM

I don't really agree with that.
If Lugia is a flying dinossaur with dragon features, therefore considered a dragon, Altaria is a dragon with bird (and cloud!) features. Besides being an actual dragon-type.

tkallab November 19th, 2010 11:33 AM

Ummm, who said Lugia is a dinosaur?

Amore November 19th, 2010 12:29 PM

I don't know....but Dragoniteuser has a point....if you're not a member, only post to ask to join...

Oh, and don't bring this shizz up, as I'm not going to do Gen IV votes unless Gen V pokémon cause an argument (I predict Onokusu and Tyranitar, but let's not go there now).

Bulbapedia probably does say Lugia's a dinosaur though...it says lots of pokémon are dinosaurs (probably true).

tkallab November 19th, 2010 12:59 PM

Well, Pokémon are monsters after all, and dinosaurs are the only monster we know existed... So either a lot of Pokémon are based on dinosaurs, or we associate monsrous Pokémon with dinosaur Pokémon.

Silhouette November 19th, 2010 1:12 PM

Didn't someone say that Dragons don't have feathers somewhere earlier in the thread? Lugia being a dragon goes against their logic.

Xilfer November 19th, 2010 1:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6296448)
Yeah.....and Altaria was argued out for having the characteristics of a bird, not a dragon (although I'm glad it's not normal/flying-typed, I love its' defensiveness and non-weakness to Electricity - the former sets it out from most dragons (and it can still hit hard), and the latter sets it out from birds.

Yeah, i couldn't imagine it if Altaria wasn't a dragon.


Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAZ The Cat (Post 6296534)
I don't really agree with that.
If Lugia is a flying dinossaur with dragon features, therefore considered a dragon, Altaria is a dragon with bird (and cloud!) features. Besides being an actual dragon-type.

we've debated this before, and Lugia is a D-R-A-G-O-N and....are you even a member here? i think not.

Will94 November 19th, 2010 1:29 PM

Owned.

Lugia is definately a dragon, but then Ho-Oh is really just a bird in my opinion.

Xilfer November 19th, 2010 1:38 PM

Agreements flushing in here, ho-oh is definitely a bird, and i recon they could have found a better name for it too!
but thats offtopic, can we please stop focusing on Lugia (wich we already disputed) and start focusing on topics, right lets see......Altaria should not be a Dragon but I'm really glad it is, otherwise it would be kinda useless without all its dragon awsomeness, besides, apart from the salamence family it's the only dragon type in hoenn.
Edit: next time you come across Ho-Oh say this: uh-oh Ho-Oh and watch da magic happen! LOL.

dragoniteuser November 19th, 2010 1:39 PM

Wait, noone even mentioned Ho-oh! And why should they when it's an obvious elephant bird!

New topic:
Do you think that Lugia should be Water typed, or not?

Xilfer November 19th, 2010 1:42 PM

No, because the pokedex in both anime and games state that it was >Forced< into hiding underwater because of it's overpowerfull wings.

tkallab November 19th, 2010 1:42 PM

No, he should be Dragon typed!

On a more serious note, no, I think Lugia's typing is just fine. The fact that he lives in water does not take away the fact that he used to live at the top of a tower like a bird. I didn't say like a bird.

Amore November 19th, 2010 1:47 PM

Uh....I just missed something, but Draggy, how did Silver get the Pupitar that then evolved into a Tyranitar? I may be wrong (I'm not reading PokeSpe GSC chapter as I hope to buy it off amazon soon, currently getting Vol.5/6), but I'm pretty sure Silver says that Lance gave it to him in the first place, hence how he was returning it.....so it's Lance's by my verdict. But your theme looks cool as it is, especially as we don't know about whether or not he has a Charizard, or his Dragonair have evolved, and he's yet to be seen using Tyranitar.....

Also, Xilfer, wtheck man? You forgot Flygon! And Vibrava, but mainly Flygon!!!!!!!




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Yeah! That'd be awesome, particularly if it kept all its' Psychic abilities....after all, it is the only non-water-type to learn Hydro Pump!

Will94 November 19th, 2010 2:06 PM

Yeah I really like Lugia actually. I usually don't use the legendarys, and I only catch them to fill up the Pokedex, but I really really like Lugia, and I am sometimes using it!

But yeah, Lugia shouldn't be water type. Just because it lives underwater doesn't mean it is water type. But it is possible to learn water moves from living in the ocean.

Oh and on the topic of Hoenn dragons, what do you guys think about Tropius?? Should it be a dragon type???
And remember Kingdra is dragon type and it is in Hoenn, even though it isn't native to that region.
And Latias, Latios and Rayquaza are dragons!! Unless you wern't counting legendaries.

tkallab November 19th, 2010 2:36 PM

No, Tropius is a diplodocus with fruit on its head. Dinosaur, not dragon.

dragoniteuser November 19th, 2010 2:43 PM

Seriously, why Tropuis?! He's more of a Dinosaur than Rampardos is! LOL

Well I don't know about Lugia... It's the guardian of the ocean, it lives in the sea,...
It would make sense, but I don't understand Psychic typeing...

tkallab November 19th, 2010 2:58 PM

Yeah, I definitely understand people who think Lugia should be Water, I'm even starting to doubt myself. It'd make a lot more sense if the Tower Duo was Fire and Water... But we can't change it anyway and I'm fine with Lugias current typing (no pun intended).

Halcyon November 19th, 2010 6:05 PM

I'm sure Lugia wasn't Water-typed due to its advantage over Ho-oh if it was.

Tribal Ebony November 19th, 2010 6:21 PM

The 3 ledendary birds:
Ho-Oh
Zapdos
Moltres

Lugia would complete the set. Not dragon.

PaxAmericana November 19th, 2010 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 6297355)
I'm sure Lugia wasn't Water-typed due to its advantage over Ho-oh if it was.

Lugia still has sort of an advantage because it can use Hydro Pump!

Halcyon November 19th, 2010 8:53 PM

Yeah, but it won't get STAB still!

tkallab November 20th, 2010 1:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Ebony (Post 6297380)
The 3 ledendary birds:
Ho-Oh
Zapdos
Moltres

Lugia would complete the set. Not dragon.

How misinformed are you? The three legendary birds are Zapdos, Moltres and Articuno. Where did you get the idea that Ho-Oh was a part of the Bird Trio?

Amore November 20th, 2010 3:23 AM

Yeah.......it's more like this:

Trio: Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres
Trio Master: Lugia (Anime only)

Trio: Raikou, Entei, Suicune
Trio Master: Ho-oh (all canon)

zapdos926 November 20th, 2010 6:27 AM

I have no idea what the topic is anymore, but it appears to be the legendary bird trio (and lugia, so I'm still on topic) why on earth would there be two fire type birds? Fire, electric, and ice; not fire, electric, fire. Lugia is definately a dragon, what other type could control the bird titans?

Midori Chi November 20th, 2010 8:50 AM

Guys, please get back on topic. D : This is a club for dragon pokemon.

tkallab November 20th, 2010 8:52 AM

What? We've acctepted Lugia as a member of the Den and we were talking about him and all! Are you kidding me? On the first page it says clearly that Lugia is a dragon, and in the second post there is a link to a document written by me why he's a dragon! We were discussing a dragon!

dragoniteuser November 20th, 2010 9:22 AM

Well Midori Chi, I've reported this to the staff, cause you had no right, or cause to delete those posts!
To members: there's no point in disscussing about this. Just let the staff handle it!

New topic:
What's your favourite legendary Dragon, and why?
http://www.poke-amph.com/diamondpearl/sprites/249.png http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/362148-The%20Champion%20Maniac/148/15/380_display.png http://mmii.info/icons/lightspeeddash/pokemon_latiosSprite.gif http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100503211141/pokemon/images/0/06/DPPtRayquaza.png http://pkmn.net/sprites/platinum/default/484.png http://resublimity.net/elljay/dialga-sprite.png http://ui22.gamespot.com/1525/giratinaoriginform_2.png

Silhouette November 20th, 2010 9:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6298400)
Well Midori Chi, I've reported this to the staff, cause you had no right, or cause to delete those posts!
To members: there's no point in disscussing about this. Just let the staff handle it!


Um.. I'm not sure what I missed while I was gone (since I can't obviously see the posts XD), but I'm sure there was a good reason for it.
Anyway, my favorite legendary dragon is. . . I'd say either Rayquaza or Giratina. Rayquaza is pretty powerful, and I like Giratina's design and typing.

tkallab November 20th, 2010 9:44 AM

The reason was discussing Lugia. If that's a good reason to you...

My favorite dragons are Lugia and Latios. Maybe Dialga, because I used it for so long in my Pokémon Diamond (and to piss draggy off).

Amore November 20th, 2010 9:46 AM

Yeah.......I'm pretty sure it wasn't that off-topic....we were explaining why Lugia's a dragon, and then the topic shifted to whether or not it's a water-type, which meant we were on-topic really....

I'm going to go with either Rayquaza or Dialga for the new topic, as they're the mascots of my first two main-series Pokémon RPGs (Emerald and Diamond). Emerald was my first, giving Rayquaza nostalgic quality, and I chose Diamond over Pearl because of Dialga's appearance...

dragoniteuser November 20th, 2010 1:20 PM

Well, my fav is definetly Rayquaza! I don't really like legendaries, but Rayquaza is one of the rare ones I acctually like! :)

Xilfer November 20th, 2010 2:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6298400)

I think Giratina, Lugia and Latios are the best, I've never acctually had a Lugia in my team before, but it's design and it's power is awsome!
Giratina is a Ghost and Dragon type, another mix of my fav types;) and it's VERY usefull.
I've had a Latios before, it's usefull due to it's psychic and dragon typing, it can learn awsome-ass moves like Dragon Pulse, and great special moves like Psychic.
P.S. I'm very dissapointed by Midori-Chi, i really thought moderators took they're job seriously but lately, in my opinion, they've been slaking around too much, what Midori-Chi did is proof, just sayin.

tkallab November 20th, 2010 2:40 PM

lol Haha, Slaking.

I've had Lugia in my team for years, I got him from a Pokémon event at level 70 on Fire Red together with Ho-Oh and I trained them both to level 100. I migrated him to Diamond as soon as I got the National Dex and then I beat the league with only him. Good times.

dragoniteuser November 21st, 2010 9:18 AM

Well guys, as you may have noticed, the deleted posts were undeleted! :)
I told you you can count on the Staff!

New topic:
Which flying Dragon Pokemon would be best for riding in your opinion?

Amore November 21st, 2010 9:48 AM

Actually, a few are still deleted, such as yours telling that non-member to either join or stop posting xD

I think Dragonite, Charizard and Salamence will be the best to ride.

As seen in PokeSpe, an older Aerodactyl is stand-on-able if it's big enough, but Red must get painful shoulders being dragged around like that...

Dragonite's fairly bulky, so there's plenty of space to stand on. Salamence is kinda flat and rounded in its' central body, and Pokémon Hunter J clearly demonstrates how to stand on it and look cool/evil :P

Charizard is quite big too, and you can ride on it, again like Green/Blue in PokeSpe does.

Flygon would be possible I guess, although a bit small....the same goes for Altaria.

If by "flying" you're referencing their typing, then Gyarados would be pretty good for riding...it's massive, and you can either grab onto the horns like Red, or stand just behind them holding a Plate looking menacing like Silver...


Sorry if you don't understand this, all you non-PokeSpe-readers.....but it's how my brain works xD

dragoniteuser November 21st, 2010 10:07 AM

Actually pokespe is a very good info source for this!
I agree, with everything you said, but IMO you could easily ride a Flygon, and Salamence would be just perfect for the job!

Amore November 21st, 2010 11:02 AM

I know....but I get the impression Lance's Aerodactyl is quite a bit bigger than Red's Aero (or was at the time of Yellow and GSC arcs, maybe not now), and it's obviously older (since revival xD) as Aero was revived on Cinnabar Island before our very eyes in Volume 2...

tkallab November 21st, 2010 11:15 AM

Lance looks so young... And I'd love to ride Lugia. Predictable.

dragoniteuser November 21st, 2010 11:15 AM

I don't know, perhaps it is bigger, but I'm sure that Lance's epicness has a lot to do with it! XD

Dooonerz November 21st, 2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6300223)

Which flying Dragon Pokemon would be best for riding in your opinion?

LOL sexual innuendo.

Anywho, it would be this babe:http://th06.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/192/5/8/Salamence___Flight_of_Fancy_by_Sajirou.png



RAWRRR! <33

Will94 November 21st, 2010 12:43 PM

Ridin' Flygon would be awesome!!

zapdos926 November 21st, 2010 5:07 PM

Legendary: rayquaza, giratina(origin), lugia or latios.
Non-legendary: flygon, dragonite, garchomp( I know it's not flying, but imagine going that fast on it's back!), or salamence.

dragoniteuser November 23rd, 2010 7:45 AM

Am I the only one here to post topics when the previous die?
Since we already had debates regarding Milotic, the topic is: tell what a sea Dragon Pokémon should look in your opinion. You can post pictures as examples.

Xilfer November 23rd, 2010 8:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6296904)
Uh....I just missed something, but Draggy, how did Silver get the Pupitar that then evolved into a Tyranitar? I may be wrong (I'm not reading PokeSpe GSC chapter as I hope to buy it off amazon soon, currently getting Vol.5/6), but I'm pretty sure Silver says that Lance gave it to him in the first place, hence how he was returning it.....so it's Lance's by my verdict. But your theme looks cool as it is, especially as we don't know about whether or not he has a Charizard, or his Dragonair have evolved, and he's yet to be seen using Tyranitar.....

Also, Xilfer, wtheck man? You forgot Flygon! And Vibrava, but mainly Flygon!!!!!!!




New Topic Answer:

Yeah! That'd be awesome, particularly if it kept all its' Psychic abilities....after all, it is the only non-water-type to learn Hydro Pump!

Ok sorry, no need to get fussy.

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Originally Posted by Will94 (Post 6296938)
Yeah I really like Lugia actually. I usually don't use the legendarys, and I only catch them to fill up the Pokedex, but I really really like Lugia, and I am sometimes using it!

But yeah, Lugia shouldn't be water type. Just because it lives underwater doesn't mean it is water type. But it is possible to learn water moves from living in the ocean.

Oh and on the topic of Hoenn dragons, what do you guys think about Tropius?? Should it be a dragon type???
And remember Kingdra is dragon type and it is in Hoenn, even though it isn't native to that region.
And Latias, Latios and Rayquaza are dragons!! Unless you wern't counting legendaries.

as i said like 10 seconds ago, no need to get fussy, i forgot, got over it.

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6296981)
No, Tropius is a diplodocus with fruit on its head. Dinosaur, not dragon.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Ebony (Post 6297380)
The 3 ledendary birds:
Ho-Oh
Zapdos
Moltres

Lugia would complete the set. Not dragon.

WTF?! where'd you get that idea from?

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6298345)
What? We've acctepted Lugia as a member of the Den and we were talking about him and all! Are you kidding me? On the first page it says clearly that Lugia is a dragon, and in the second post there is a link to a document written by me why he's a dragon! We were discussing a dragon!

Yeah, that's enough Midori-Chi

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6303384)
Am I the only one here to post topics when the previous die?
Since we already had debates regarding Milotic, the topic is: tell what a sea Dragon Pokémon should look in your opinion. You can post pictures as examples.

I know lots of posts up there have been answered already but i'm writing down what i would have said if i was there.
On a Dragon note, Lugia should not be a water type, i would love to fly on Flygon aaaand a water dragon should look like Gyrados, wich we already have! are you running out of topic ideas my friend?
P.S. sorry for the inactivity guys, i've been too lazy busy to get online.

Halcyon November 23rd, 2010 8:47 AM

Which flying Dragon Pokemon would be best for riding in your opinion?
I feel that Salamence and Dragonite is kinda small and unsafe, lol. So something like Lugia would be nice. I think the chances of falling off is much lesser! LOL, safety first, I say!

Tell what a sea Dragon Pokémon should look in your opinion.
Yeah, I think Gyarados looks like a sea dragon Pokemon in my opinion. :O

Amore November 23rd, 2010 9:47 AM

What should a water dragon look like?

Like Gyarados......or, I guess, like Feraligatr but more dragoney...yeah, not a real word I know (thanks for having that in your Sig Halcyon!)

Or a slightly more aggressive-looking Milotic...I guess if the sprites and artwork depicted Milotic better it'd count as a dragon....but it's not far off, IMO.

tkallab November 23rd, 2010 10:22 AM

You want a sea dragon?

http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-13/art/mh3-lagiacrus.jpg

Want a sea serpent?
http://lair2000.net/Mermaids_Retreat/Research/sea_serpent.jpg

Xilfer November 23rd, 2010 10:28 AM

I guess that's a good point TK, hey how about this side-topic:
If we could debate on Gyrados again, would you vote him IN or OUT, not saying that we are debating again, just a side topic.

dragoniteuser November 23rd, 2010 10:48 AM

Tkallab, I can't see the first pic... :/
And no, I wouldn't even debate this, cause if Gyarados isn't a dragon, then I don't know what is...

tkallab November 23rd, 2010 10:55 AM

Yeah, Gyarados is a Dragon, no doubting that.

Also, if you can't see the picture, google Lagiacrus. Although I'm pretty sure I've shown it before.

Amore November 23rd, 2010 11:43 AM

I'm going to have a new ruling....

Any pokémon Lance uses on more than 1 occasion is a dragon.

This classifies all his dragons as dragons...whilst still excluding Altaria as it's Hg/Ss exclusive :D

Obviously you can object...

dragoniteuser November 23rd, 2010 11:51 AM

Obviously I will, since he has a Horsea, Kangaskhan, and use a Clefairy once!

Will94 November 23rd, 2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6303740)
I'm going to have a new ruling....

Any pokémon Lance uses on more than 1 occasion is a dragon.

This classifies all his dragons as dragons...whilst still excluding Altaria as it's Hg/Ss exclusive :D

Obviously you can object...

Good analogy. I completely agree. Lance is a dragon master (kinda) and so the pokemon he uses, are dragons! Very good!

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Obviously I will, since he has a Horsea, Kangaskhan, and use a Clefairy once!
Yeah but a Horsea evolves into a Dragon type, Kangaskhan just no, and Clefairys! Don't you read the Pokedex?! Clefairys are the most Powerful Dragon Pokemon there is! XD

Amore November 23rd, 2010 11:56 AM

@Draggy: Ohh....Stadium, I'm guessing? Screw that.....the gym leaders don't even respect their typings or anything....

I'm on about main-series games.......anyway, I did say that they have to be used more than once, i.e. in more than one game.


Glad you agree with me, Will!

tkallab November 23rd, 2010 11:57 AM

Yeah, so do I. There should always be votings. If legendaries can't be veto'd, then neither can Lance's Pokémon.

dragoniteuser November 23rd, 2010 12:09 PM

Amore, stop looking at my theme! XD
Fine, but no Altaira! We've voted that Chicken out!

Xilfer November 23rd, 2010 12:11 PM

I think i will agree with you too amore, Lance is not as disrespectfull to his typing as most of the other gym leaders and champions.
although the champions don't have a typing (except lance) and Volkner a.k.a Mr.Awsome is true to his typing aswell.

Amore November 23rd, 2010 12:39 PM

Draggy...you don't understand! I specifically crafted that ruling so that Altaria wasn't included in the "officially never removeable from the list of dragons" category.
Don't worry!

Wallace stays true to his typing....but then again, Water is the most common type in the whole pokédex...

tkallab November 23rd, 2010 12:41 PM

Ummm, how about Steven? And Wallace? They had typings.

I guess if everyone's fine with it, then so be it.

Silhouette November 23rd, 2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilfer123 (Post 6303804)
I think i will agree with you too amore, Lance is not as disrespectfull to his typing as most of the other gym leaders and champions.
although the champions don't have a typing (except lance) and Volkner a.k.a Mr.Awsome is true to his typing aswell.

Lolmfao, Volkner's lineup in DP. Octillery? Really? XD
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6303740)
I'm going to have a new ruling....

Any pokémon Lance uses on more than 1 occasion is a dragon.

This classifies all his dragons as dragons...whilst still excluding Altaria as it's Hg/Ss exclusive :D

Obviously you can object...

Anyway, on topic, this is actually a good idea. Of course, this isn't limited to the dragons he's only used on one occasion like Salamence, I assume.

Xilfer November 23rd, 2010 12:46 PM

Xilfer: I'm good
tkallab: yeah me too
Draggy: oooh alright
Gear: .......
Amore: yay!

New topic:
Wich Dragon types (in your opinion) should appear more in the anime?

Ninja'd by owner.
he only used Octillery in DP, i never saw him with one in the anime or any of the other games, besides, he only used it and Ambipom because they had an Electrical move so he's still loyal to his typing!


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