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Amore December 6th, 2010 12:24 PM

We're talking about something to do with Dragons in real life....

Also, I don't know why you were gone, sorry.....but when do you want your Ledian back? You have until...probably March 2011 or something stupid...I'll forget whose it is, but never delete it xD

It truly is a jetpack chicken.....it's obviously been contorted from that concept sketch of Blazias / Latiken or whatever you want to call this:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c4/Latias_Combusken.jpg

Silhouette December 6th, 2010 1:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6324222)

IMO you should be more active here aswell...

Yeah, sorry. I've been busy with being a senior and all. I'm trying, at least I'm not completely inactive. :P
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dooonerz (Post 6324337)
Umm I have a topic, not too sure if it is any good though </3

What dragon do you think would be best in real life?

This can be about practicability, adaptation or anything else!

Fire away!

I would say maybe Kingdra, since it can hide from most of humanity (who would probably end up capturing it and putting it in a zoo) underwater.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6327940)
We're talking about something to do with Dragons in real life....

Also, I don't know why you were gone, sorry.....but when do you want your Ledian back? You have until...probably March 2011 or something stupid...I'll forget whose it is, but never delete it xD

It truly is a jetpack chicken.....it's obviously been contorted from that concept sketch of Blazias / Latiken or whatever you want to call this:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c4/Latias_Combusken.jpg

Yeah, I've seen that picture before. Who'd've thought Latias and Blaziken would be one Pokemon. Wonder what type it was supposed to be...

tkallab December 6th, 2010 1:04 PM

I'm guessing Fire / Flying or Fire / Dragon?

Dooonerz December 6th, 2010 1:27 PM

I'm guessing Fire/Flying, or Fire/Dragon. That would be most suited for Latiken (that name is awesomeeee).

tobi-ksla December 7th, 2010 4:47 AM

What dragon do you think would be best in real life?

1. Altaria - It's a dragon that look more like a bird, thus it can blend in with other birds. Also, like what people have already said, it can blend in with the clouds.

2. Kingdra - We already have seahorses here. Kingdra would be able to fit in.

3.
Spoiler:
Kibago, Onondo, and Onokusu - I don't know, why, but they seem like animals that you'd more likely expect to see inside a cave.


4. Trapinch and Vibrava - Well, the former's a desert ant while the latter resembles a dragonfly. If you want to throw in Flygon, I guess it could work by hiding itself in a sandstorm.

Regeneration December 7th, 2010 5:12 AM

I need to join this awesome club of dragons! >O

I'll start off with answering some questions~

Favorite Dragons?
Hmmm.. Salamence and Altaria! They are plain awesome! I remember that these two were my favourite dragon type Pokemon in Pokemon Emerald~!

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?

Nah, they don't look like one.

Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form?

'Origin' form. It looks ugly in 'Another' form. =(

What is your favorite legendary Dragon?

That would be Altaria! It looks really cute! <3

Amore December 7th, 2010 6:04 AM

Welcome!

Btw, Altaria isn't a legendary xD

Nor is it considered part of our club now. Because we're a democracy and 50%+ wanted it out c:

Regeneration December 7th, 2010 8:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6329089)
Welcome!

Btw, Altaria isn't a legendary xD

Nor is it considered part of our club now. Because we're a democracy and 50%+ wanted it out c:

Ah, lol.. Thanks for bringing that to my notice. To be honest, I didn't see that legendary part. I just answered the question as, "Which is you favourite dragon type Pokemon?". XD

/needs to read more carefully.. ;_;

To get to that question again, I'd say Latios is my favourite legendary dragon type Pokemon. XD

Xilfer December 7th, 2010 8:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6327940)
We're talking about something to do with Dragons in real life....

Also, I don't know why you were gone, sorry.....but when do you want your Ledian back? You have until...probably March 2011 or something stupid...I'll forget whose it is, but never delete it xD

It truly is a jetpack chicken.....it's obviously been contorted from that concept sketch of Blazias / Latiken or whatever you want to call this:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c4/Latias_Combusken.jpg


Welcome Regeneration
LOLOL Blazias or what? that is pretty cool mind you.
I want my Ledian back when i get my own soulsilver game on christmas.
you don't know why i was gone? but tkallab told you that i will be gone right?
or eeelse
on a dragon note, Blazilas should be fire/dragon, we need a real fire dragon not that oversized chiken we call a pokemon.

as for the current topic:
it would be great to have Latios and Latias in real life.

dragoniteuser December 7th, 2010 8:48 AM

If you ask me, ^^ that is an overgrown chicken!
I do not see absolutely anything dragonic in it!

Dooonerz December 7th, 2010 9:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6329271)
If you ask me, ^^ that is an overgrown chicken!
I do not see absolutely anything dragonic in it!

I have to agree, this thing looks more like a chicken than Reshiram.

Xilfer December 7th, 2010 9:09 AM

hmm, true, but it's design is still awsome.
and NO WAY! reshiram is more of a chiken than it is a pokemon! you can't compare it with that.

Pave Low December 7th, 2010 2:07 PM

If you were to combine two Pokemon and make it look "dragonic", then they should at least be both half-dragon types.

Reshiram is like a disabled dragon, which makes it look like a chicken in a way.

Xilfer December 7th, 2010 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pave Low (Post 6329788)
If you were to combine two Pokemon and make it look "dragonic", then they should at least be both half-dragon types.

Reshiram is like a disabled dragon, which makes it look like a chicken in a way.

Nah, Reshiram IS a chiken. lol.

You're right, you can't make it look Draconic much cuz it's got Blaziken in it.

tkallab December 7th, 2010 10:46 PM

I still don't get what's so chicken-like about Reshiram. Chickens have beaks, and Reshiram's head is probably based on an canine or something. And his wings are definitely a lot bigger than a chicken's too. You can't call something a chicken just because it has white feathers!

Xilfer December 8th, 2010 7:08 AM

It's not because it has white feathers.
you lot should see that Reshiram is in fact SHAPED like a chiken.

tkallab December 8th, 2010 8:47 AM

Yeah? Name one trait other than the feathers that Reshiram shares with a chicken. If you say "Isn't it obvious", I will take it that you don't know either.

Dooonerz December 8th, 2010 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilfer123 (Post 6331028)
It's not because it has white feathers.
you lot should see that Reshiram is in fact SHAPED like a chiken.

Ok first of all, please learn how to spell 'chicken'.

Second of all, please compare this:



to this:



I personally see the head of a Reshiram like a canine's (as does tkallab). You say that Reshiram has the shape of a chicken. Yes it may have claws and some feathers, but it's actual stance is completely different to a chicken, tell me: Have you ever seen a chicken with the stance of Reshiram? Me thinks not. o_0. Also, Reshiram has a TURBINE on it's tail, and have you ever seen a a chicken with a turbine on it's tail?

Xilfer December 8th, 2010 10:01 AM

Ok, now you're ***in me off!

first of all, i never said that i compare that turbine with a chicken! that turbine is a stupid addition of nintendo, as i stated before "stupid jetpack chicken".
then, the feathers and whiteness is already stated, what about that face? i don't see much canine on that, in fact i could easily compare that muzzle to a beak!
plus, you are trying to prove that he is a dragon, yes? well why compare the face to a canine, theres nothing draconic about a canine, you just killed you own point.
and look at those feet, obviously shaped like a chickens feet, with those claws very much resembling a chickens.
and i saw a youtube video that saw reshiram fly, you should have seen him fly, it was DUMB! here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMI9cFyNDA&feature=related
see that? i laughed SO hard!
i think i proved most of my point, if theres anything i forgot draggy will point it out.
P.S. where is draggy anyway? he's never there when you acctually need him LOL.
P.S.S. DO NOT TELL ME HOW I SHOULD WRITE MY POSTS MISTER SMARTY PANTS!

dragoniteuser December 8th, 2010 10:21 AM

HERE COMES DRAGGY! TADADADADADA!!!!
LOL
Spoiler:
I agree, as i've stated before, Reshiram's head DOES look canine.
i think that Xil sees it's resemblance to a chicken doe to it's stance that DOES look chicken-like... But mostly doe to it's oversized legs.
The poin is, i do not see it as a chicken, but it doesn't look much of a dragon to me either...


PS: you guys forgot that this is gen V. topic that needs to be in spoilers...

Spinosaurus December 8th, 2010 10:22 AM

You should stop arguing, it's pointless.
I can see Reshiram as a dragon, but not much. I don't see much chicken in it, either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore
We're talking about something to do with Dragons in real life....

Also, I don't know why you were gone, sorry.....but when do you want your Ledian back? You have until...probably March 2011 or something stupid...I'll forget whose it is, but never delete it xD

It truly is a jetpack chicken.....it's obviously been contorted from that concept sketch of Blazias / Latiken or whatever you want to call this:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c4/Latias_Combusken.jpg

I've seen that before. I was surprised, but glad at the same time. I like Blaziken and Latias the way they are now.
I see that more as a Fire/Flying. Not really a Dragon, not even a psychic.

Xilfer December 8th, 2010 10:51 AM

i have stated all my reasons, and i don't care if you agree with them or not, case closed!

New topic: what do you think a Gen VI Dragon should look like?

tkallab December 8th, 2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilfer123 (Post 6331194)
Ok, now you're ***in me off!

first of all, i never said that i compare that turbine with a chicken! that turbine is a stupid addition of nintendo, as i stated before "stupid jetpack chicken".
then, the feathers and whiteness is already stated, what about that face? i don't see much canine on that, in fact i could easily compare that muzzle to a beak!
plus, you are trying to prove that he is a dragon, yes? well why compare the face to a canine, theres nothing draconic about a canine, you just killed you own point.
and look at those feet, obviously shaped like a chickens feet, with those claws very much resembling a chickens.
and i saw a youtube video that saw reshiram fly, you should have seen him fly, it was DUMB! here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMI9cFyNDA&feature=related
see that? i laughed SO hard!
i think i proved most of my point, if theres anything i forgot draggy will point it out.
P.S. where is draggy anyway? he's never there when you acctually need him LOL.
P.S.S. DO NOT TELL ME HOW I SHOULD WRITE MY POSTS MISTER SMARTY PANTS!

I agree with you on topic of the turine, though it's a little bit justified.
Concerning the head, how in the name of Arceus could you see his mouth as a beak?
And if you ask me, the shapes of some dragons' heads are more like based on canines than reptiles, mainly Chinese dragons. And if you don't agree, then I'll just tell you that canines can also be like dragons.

Can you look me in the eye and say that's not dragonic?
Regarding the feet, all I can say is "Just a little". They resemble a chicken's feet "just a little".
And how does Reshiram's inability to fly in a normal way add to him not being a Dragon? To be honest, his flight wasn't that bad until 00:09, when he flapped his wings down.
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6331210)
HERE COMES DRAGGY! TADADADADADA!!!!
LOL
Spoiler:
I agree, as i've stated before, Reshiram's head DOES look canine.
i think that Xil sees it's resemblance to a chicken doe to it's stance that DOES look chicken-like... But mostly doe to it's oversized legs.
The poin is, i do not see it as a chicken, but it doesn't look much of a dragon to me either...


PS: you guys forgot that this is gen V. topic that needs to be in spoilers...

The legs are the only trait of Reshiram I see as - slightly possibly - chicken-like. But there's nothing about his stance that's related to a chicken.
I'm glad you agree on - something - with me, Draggy...
And there's no point in keeping Reshiram a spoiler, anyone who's gonna buy Pokémon Black will see the boxart... And White too, because those two are usually next to each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 6331212)
You should stop arguing, it's pointless.
I can see Reshiram as a dragon, but not much. I don't see much Chicken in it, either.

In this thread, arguing is never pointless. The way I see it, it's fun and it makes everyone more active, haha! But you're kinda new and haven't seen the arguments from some time ago, so I guess I kinda understand your point of view.

dragoniteuser December 8th, 2010 11:12 AM

No that's not a dragon!
It's a hell-dog, but not a dragon!
you just don't see it, do you?!
You can't make a dragon out of nothing!
Adding wings and those tails doesn't make it dragonic!

tkallab December 8th, 2010 11:33 AM

Can't make a Dragon out of nothing? Where's your creativity?
Alright, the tell me this head doesn't resemble a wolf's head in any way.


Of course, I'm talking bout the shape there, not all the decorations.

Xilfer December 8th, 2010 11:34 AM

"Looks in Tommy's eyes" That's not draconic.
draggy is right, that's a hell hound, adding wings and a tail dosen't make it draconic, but i thought i said case closed, i don't want to argue anymore.
if we countine any longer i might let my anger out and start saying things that you really don't want to hear, it almost happened in the dark type fan club.
i said what would your dream dragon look like?

dragoniteuser December 8th, 2010 11:43 AM

OK, first, Xil, relax man, we're just having a disscussion, and you're blowing it way out of proportion.
Besides we already had that topic... O.o

@tkallab
That's a modern design of Celestial dragon...
the old ones didn't look like that... :/

tkallab December 8th, 2010 11:44 AM

Ummm, I'm not trying to anger anyone, I just wanna have an intellectual discussion. Also, imagine that hell hound with the head of a dragon and say it still doesn't seem too draconic.

Let's just drop the part about that hellhound/dragon image.

Xilfer December 8th, 2010 2:19 PM

Well, that's anger issues for ya.
oh, ok another topic then: invent a type, then mix it in with the dragon type and maybe draw a picture of it.
like this:
New type: Lava
New Pokemon name: Lavagon
type: Dragon/Lava
Picture(optional):



get what i mean?
it's a little dumb, but hey, waddaya gonna do.
sighning out, cya tomorrow.

tkallab December 8th, 2010 2:36 PM

No need to get mad at your friends, right? I wouldn't think of hurting anyone.

I'd make a astral/stellar/dimensional/deity type for Dialga, Palkia, and maybe Giratina and Arceus. They'd still be Dragons too, though.

But we should still continue about Reshiram. It's kind of a pain that he's my favorite Dragon-type Pokémon and you guys don't really like him...

Amore December 8th, 2010 3:39 PM

Lol....I'm going to reply to Xilf's topic as the opportunity is too good to pass:

Type: Lava
Pokémon: HeatMence

Basically Heatran with Salamence wings and some Salamence-esque fins on it....xD

dragoniteuser December 9th, 2010 5:16 AM

@topic
Firedrake
dragon/fire (i know it's not excatly as Xil proprsed, but...)

@tkallab
I agree. We barely scratched the surface with Reshiram, but we should do Zekrom too later!

Xilfer December 10th, 2010 12:12 PM

Aiaiai, you guys.
alright, you guys continue with Reshiram, but i'm droppin out.
Yeah, i know, but my anger sometimes just takes control of me, you dunno how it feels, the worst part is when it's over, i feel terrible when it's over.
As for my topic, i think it's kinda useless, but it's all i could think of.

I made this list of types, see in Giratina's dimension, pokemon types are different but each one refers to one in our world:



Fire=Lava
Dragon=Monster
Dark=Mist
Psychic=Magic
Flying=Air
Grass=Wood
Steel=Bronze
Water=Sap
Ice=Frost
Ground=Cave
Rock=Mountain
Glitch=Cheat

LOL, That's all i came up with.

Silhouette December 10th, 2010 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6331577)

But we should still continue about Reshiram. It's kind of a pain that he's my favorite Dragon-type Pokémon and you guys don't really like him...

Wait... What about Reshiram?

And, btw, sorry for the inactivity guys. I'm taking the ACT's tomorrow, so my schedule will open up a great deal after that.

tkallab December 10th, 2010 3:05 PM

Well, I really like Reshiram, but Xilfer and Draggy don't, make them stop!

Haha. I just like discussing stuff.

Good luck with your ACT, whatever it is. I'm doing the FCE tomorrow.

Amore December 12th, 2010 7:59 AM

Sorry...what are ACT and FCE?

Are they like GCSE or A level?


Anyway.....I'm becoming more and more dubious about whether or not I'll actually like Black when I get it.....I'm also losing my interest....hence I'm fulfilling my pre-new-game tradition of quitting pokémon practically cold turkey for a few months before the release! So, I'll be leaving soon....please, try to keep this place active so I can find it when/if I return (most likely when, and some time around August....due to GCSEs).

I'll still check Serebii for any drastic news...i.e. restarting HeartGold to get an event pokémon, but not taking it any further.....so, good luck guys! I'll be gone as soon as my giveaway has been completed, or by Christmas Eve.

tkallab December 12th, 2010 8:05 AM

Awwww, you're leaving? Want draggy and me to keep track of the new members again?
I have no idea what ACT is, but FCE is the First Certificate in English. If I pass, I can move to England and apply for a job... Theoretically.

Something Dragon-related.

Amore December 12th, 2010 8:24 AM

Yes please!

And if I haven't returned by 2012, make your own list xD

Btw, please don't come to England....we don't have enough jobs....and it'll cost me £100,000 to go to Uni because I'm not in poverty (I'm not rich either, I have some money but the bank won't give it to me xD), and I'm English (it's cheaper to be Scottish / Welsh / Iranian / anything non-English than English in an English University).

It's not that I don't like you...but I worry for my future...you can only get so much money by standing on a street corner playing Baker Street out of a saxophone like an iPod on loop :P

Btw, my signature and whole theme is dragon-related because Suicune > all dragons in competitive battling.
But the only thing that can defeat Wurmple is Steel-type who resists bug...oh wait, they all do except Jirachi xD

tkallab December 12th, 2010 8:32 AM

Relax, I said theoretically. I'm more likely to go to America than England anyway.

Spoiler:
By the way, is anyone interested in a conversation on Kyuremu's role in an eventual third game?

Amore December 12th, 2010 8:44 AM

Spoiler:


Dunno...guess you're on about the Dragon/Ice-type?

Start an in-spoiler topic, see who replies


tkallab December 12th, 2010 8:56 AM

Spoiler:
Okay, so apparently Reshiram and Zekrom were one big Dragon Pokémon in the beginning, belonging to two brothers. But when they got into an argument, they both took a 'share' of the big Pokémon and went their own ways.
What I'd like to see is N collecting both Reshiram and Zekrom, and making one big Pokémon out of them, although it would probably cause controversy if Game Freak added a Pokémon mid-generation. In order to beat N, you'd have to get Kyuremu and use the 'God Stone', an unused item in the game, to change his Forme, so he could match 'Reshikrom'.


Thoughts on this?

Dooonerz December 12th, 2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6337753)
Spoiler:
Okay, so apparently Reshiram and Zekrom were one big Dragon Pokémon in the beginning, belonging to two brothers. But when they got into an argument, they both took a 'share' of the big Pokémon and went their own ways.
What I'd like to see is N collecting both Reshiram and Zekrom, and making one big Pokémon out of them, although it would probably cause controversy if Game Freak added a Pokémon mid-generation. In order to beat N, you'd have to get Kyuremu and use the 'God Stone', an unused item in the game, to change his Forme, so he could match 'Reshikrom'.


Thoughts on this?

Spoiler:
That would be awesome that the brother's had one huge Dragon. I don't particularly think that it would work, and as you said, it would cause controversy to add a Pokemon after the release. I've got a feeling that 'Reshikrom' would be so overused and broken that it would be untrue.

Amore December 12th, 2010 1:22 PM

Spoiler:


I shouldn't have read this but.....it's incredibly unlikely. Also, even if they did do it, they'd kill it by making it Dragon-type...or maybe the first Dragon/Dragon-typed pokémon....rather than the epic Fire/Electric combo we all want.....


tkallab December 12th, 2010 2:07 PM

Spoiler:
I don't think they could make it too broken, since you have to fight it in the main storyline... I know it's unlinkely, but I think N's gonna at least obtain both Dragons. And I also think Kyuremu's gonna have another Forme, especially since there are two unused Ice moves in the game, one phisical which paralyzes, and one special which burns. Sounds familiar?

dragoniteuser December 13th, 2010 2:07 AM

Well if you think back to Sinnoh, you might remeber the statue that shows a legendary pokemon. That pokemon is actually a fusion of Palkia and Dialga.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6900000/Dialga-fushion-Palkia-legendary-pokemon-6924207-300-289.jpg
Before Platinum came out, people also theorized that this pokemon will be the legendary of the third game, yet it never saw the light of the day...
My point is, it's unlikely, but quite posible...

Dooonerz December 13th, 2010 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6339168)
Well if you think back to Sinnoh, you might remeber the statue that shows a legendary pokemon. That pokemon is actually a fusion of Palkia and Dialga.
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6900000/Dialga-fushion-Palkia-legendary-pokemon-6924207-300-289.jpg
Before Platinum came out, people also theorized that this pokemon will be the legendary of the third game, yet it never saw the light of the day...
My point is, it's unlikely, but quite posible...


This is quite true, but I wonder what this 'Legendary' would look like?
A chicken mixed with a robot.

tkallab December 13th, 2010 7:01 AM

Augh stop annoying me he's not a chicken.

Spoiler:
I don't want it to be a plain fusion, but a new Pokémon altogether with features of both Reshiram and Zekrom.


By the way, draggy, what stautue are you referring to?

Dooonerz December 13th, 2010 7:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6339424)
Augh stop annoying me he's not a chicken.

Spoiler:
I don't want it to be a plain fusion, but a new Pokémon altogether with features of both Reshiram and Zekrom.


By the way, draggy, what stautue are you referring to?

Hey, Hey! I said robot too!

I think it's the one in Eterna City, you know, the one with the plaque ripped off?

tkallab December 13th, 2010 7:11 AM

That's Palkia in Pearl and Dialga in Diamond, isn't it?

Spoiler:
And I think Zekrom kind of looks like a robot. The nature versus technology thingy, remember?

Dooonerz December 13th, 2010 7:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6339433)
That's Palkia in Pearl and Dialga in Diamond, isn't it?

Spoiler:
And I think Zekrom kind of looks like a robot. The nature versus technology thingy, remember?

Hell Yeah it is!

Spoiler:
And yeah I think it is, I can see how the nature versus techy works now <3

Xilfer December 13th, 2010 9:33 AM

Hey guys, i won't be online much because i am officially....Ill, that's right, Ill, Sick, Grosserised (new word:P) so i can only work from my mum's laptop, that means that my time on the computer is drastically minimized, therefore please don't demote me or something.
and you lot are doing your exams now anyway so what's even the point of coming back here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6337685)
Sorry...what are ACT and FCE?

Are they like GCSE or A level?


Anyway.....I'm becoming more and more dubious about whether or not I'll actually like Black when I get it.....I'm also losing my interest....hence I'm fulfilling my pre-new-game tradition of quitting pokémon practically cold turkey for a few months before the release! So, I'll be leaving soon....please, try to keep this place active so I can find it when/if I return (most likely when, and some time around August....due to GCSEs).

I'll still check Serebii for any drastic news...i.e. restarting HeartGold to get an event pokémon, but not taking it any further.....so, good luck guys! I'll be gone as soon as my giveaway has been completed, or by Christmas Eve.

Kidding? you're leaving again? aw man, ok, i know how you feel, i lost my mood for Zelda and came to Pokemon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6337711)
Yes please!

And if I haven't returned by 2012, make your own list xD

Btw, please don't come to England....we don't have enough jobs....and it'll cost me £100,000 to go to Uni because I'm not in poverty (I'm not rich either, I have some money but the bank won't give it to me xD), and I'm English (it's cheaper to be Scottish / Welsh / Iranian / anything non-English than English in an English University).

It's not that I don't like you...but I worry for my future...you can only get so much money by standing on a street corner playing Baker Street out of a saxophone like an iPod on loop :P

Btw, my signature and whole theme is dragon-related because Suicune > all dragons in competitive battling.
But the only thing that can defeat Wurmple is Steel-type who resists bug...oh wait, they all do except Jirachi xD

Please don't go to england! I've been there for 5 stinking years and all i got was the following:
Football
School
Trouble
Trouble at School
Crap
Crap
Crapyness
one hell of a stinking neighbourhood.
No offense Amore

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6337753)
Spoiler:
Okay, so apparently Reshiram and Zekrom were one big Dragon Pokémon in the beginning, belonging to two brothers. But when they got into an argument, they both took a 'share' of the big Pokémon and went their own ways.
What I'd like to see is N collecting both Reshiram and Zekrom, and making one big Pokémon out of them, although it would probably cause controversy if Game Freak added a Pokémon mid-generation. In order to beat N, you'd have to get Kyuremu and use the 'God Stone', an unused item in the game, to change his Forme, so he could match 'Reshikrom'.


Thoughts on this?

Nah, although that would be pretty cool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dooonerz (Post 6339320)
This is quite true, but I wonder what this 'Legendary' would look like?
A chicken mixed with a robot.

Hahaha, you got that right.
also, what's with all the grcs and advs or whatever? it's all too complicated...

dragoniteuser December 13th, 2010 11:23 AM

No tkallab, it's the same statue in both games.

tkallab December 13th, 2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulbapedia
Ancient Statue

This Pokémon Statue is up a little hill to the east of Eterna City. In Diamond and Pearl, the statue has a plate (dependent on the game), while in Pokémon Platinum the plate has been torn off the statue. It was once the centerpiece of many festivals. A man in the house just south of the statue will tell the player the two inscriptions. In the Team Galactic HQ building in Veilstone City, a report can be found with missing text generated with a machine (indicated by "..." when described by the man in the house. The text extracted by the machine is written in blue.
The first one says this:
The creation of DIALGA,
The giver of time...
In laughter, there is tears...
And, likewise it is with time.
The same time flows on.
For it is the blessing of DIALGA.

The second one says this:
The birth of PALKIA.
The creator of parallel dimensions...
Alive, yet not alive...
Everything drifts in space...
To arrive in the same universe.
It is the blessing of PALKIA.

I'm cursed with always wanting to prove I'm right...

dragoniteuser December 13th, 2010 2:15 PM

Thomas, that doesn't prove anything, my pictures on the other hand...

Silhouette December 13th, 2010 2:30 PM

Okay, that means I'm going to have to find a new co-owner, and make a member list. D:

tkallab December 13th, 2010 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6339938)
Thomas, that doesn't prove anything, my pictures on the other hand...

Why don't my quotes prove anything? It means in Diamond, there's a statue of Dialga, and in Pearl, there's a statue of Palkia. I think that proves something. The fact that the statues are the same, however, don't prove anything, except Game Freak was being lazy. Ever seen all those Pokémon statues from earlier games? Ever noticed them all being the same?

Don't forget the manga is a different canon altogether, too.

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Originally Posted by Silhouette (Post 6339955)
Okay, that means I'm going to have to find a new co-owner, and make a member list. D:

I'd like to apply for the job, haha!

Mikota December 14th, 2010 8:41 AM

May I Join?


Favorite Dragons? Flygon, Dratina and Dragonair
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber? No I really don't care for either of those two dragons really.
Lance or Clair? Clair
Which Dragon looks best Shiny? Flygon
Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form? original {Origin}
Whats your Dragon Team? Flygon, Dragonair, Altaria, Latias, Charizard, Latios
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon? YES
What is your favorite legendary Dragon? Rayquaza

dragoniteuser December 14th, 2010 10:31 AM

Welcome Mikota!

@tkallab
Wrong!
Your quotes just mention game mascots, but they don't say they're on that statue.
And manga may be different from the games, but the main story/plot is the same, in each generation!

tkallab December 14th, 2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6341242)
Welcome Mikota!

@tkallab
Wrong!
Your quotes just mention game mascots, but they don't say they're on that statue.
And manga may be different from the games, but the main story/plot is the same, in each generation!

Mask of Ice much?

Also, how could the makers of the statue know what Dialga / Palkia looked like? They're gods! No one has ever made a 100% accurate statue of a god (considering they don't exist, or no one believes in them)
Also, would you mind telling me when that manga was written? Was it before or after Arceus was officialy announced by Nintendo?

I love arguments! I'll put write a smily face just this once! ^^

Mikota, welcome! Consider yourself accepted!

Amore December 14th, 2010 12:50 PM

Manga was written...well, D/P was mostly written before Arceus. Later parts of the arc were written post-Arceus. I.e. Hg/Ss
Spoiler:
which features Arceus, so they must know about it xD


As for that statue...can you not tell by the pictures that it resembles both Dialga and Palkia in the games as well?

Yeah...not gone yet...I'll leave when my imaginary advent calendar runs out of chocolates (they've all sold out :( ) (December 24th, in case you've never had a proper advent calendar)

dragoniteuser December 14th, 2010 2:25 PM

Wait what does Arceus have to do with this again???

Xilfer December 14th, 2010 3:07 PM

Did anyone even pay attention to my last post?! (LOL)

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6339964)
I'd like to apply for the job, haha!

In your dreams! LOL.

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Originally Posted by Mikota (Post 6341134)
May I Join?


Favorite Dragons? Flygon, Dratina and Dragonair
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber? No I really don't care for either of those two dragons really.
Lance or Clair? Clair
Which Dragon looks best Shiny? Flygon
Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form? original {Origin}
Whats your Dragon Team? Flygon, Dragonair, Altaria, Latias, Charizard, Latios
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon? YES
What is your favorite legendary Dragon? Rayquaza

Welcome, hope you have a good stay here.

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Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6341426)
Manga was written...well, D/P was mostly written before Arceus. Later parts of the arc were written post-Arceus. I.e. Hg/Ss
Spoiler:
which features Arceus, so they must know about it xD


As for that statue...can you not tell by the pictures that it resembles both Dialga and Palkia in the games as well?

Yeah...not gone yet...I'll leave when my imaginary advent calendar runs out of chocolates (they've all sold out :( ) (December 24th, in case you've never had a proper advent calendar)

Shame, you're leaving on Christmas eve....:'(
I agree with...whoever is saying that they AREN'T Palgia or something, i think gamefreak never came with this idea, i mean, on diamond it's Dialga and Pearl it's Palkia, obvious difference in shape, and what does this have to do with Arceus?

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6341565)
Wait what does Arceus have to do with this again???

yes, what?

shininglatios217 December 14th, 2010 5:48 PM

I'm with dragoniteuser this time. However, I have three theories about that statue:

1- dragoniteuser's theory: It is a representation of a mix between Dialga and Palkia. In Platinum BOTH descritions are found in the game at the Team Galactic HQ and a man in Eterna City will tell you what is said on them (although he says the incomplete versions found in DP). That means that the plaque contained both description (sorry tkallab, your quotes actually prove dragoniteuser's theory).

2. A mix between tkallab and dragoniteuser's theories: The statues used to represent Palkia in Pearl and Dialga in Diamond. However, when they were making Platinum, they decided that that statue represented both Dialga and Palkia.

3. The short (AKA the sceptical-and-boring) theory: The developers were lazy. Instead of using a statue representing the respective mascot of each game, they just used a neutral statue that would represent the mascot of the game.

tkallab December 14th, 2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xilfer123 (Post 6341632)
Did anyone even pay attention to my last post?! (LOL)

Barely, there was nothin on-topic in there. Trollface.jpg


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Originally Posted by Xilfer123 (Post 6341632)
I agree with...whoever is saying that they AREN'T Palgia or something, i think gamefreak never came with this idea, i mean, on diamond it's Dialga and Pearl it's Palkia, obvious difference in shape, and what does this have to do with Arceus?

Well, the statues look exactly the same... (And I think the fandom calls him Dialkia.) Why Arceus is involved: I was thinking they might have put a statue of 'the most powerful being' in Eterna City, and they couldn't use Arceus because he wasn't officially revealed.
I still don't think it's possible that the versions have two different descriptions even though the statue is the same.

Silhouette December 15th, 2010 1:39 PM

Alright guys, I've come to a decision. From here on, tkallab is going to be the new Co-Owner. Congrats!

(yes, this actually did take some time to figure out, I had to read through a lot of this thread -_-)

tkallab December 15th, 2010 1:49 PM

I think I shouldn't be the new co-owner until Amore is gone, actually. You're still here until Christmas, right Amore?

Silhouette December 15th, 2010 1:55 PM

Well, we were actually talking about getting a new co-owner a while back. Nothing wrong with having more than one co-owner. Helps me out since I'm never on.

EDIT: Unless you prefer not to be co-owner until Amore is gone.

tkallab December 16th, 2010 9:02 AM

I'll wait until Amore is gone, I think. I don't exactly know why, but I feel like it's the right thing to do, for some reason.

Also, I posted in this thread some time ago. I'm wondering if you guys agree with my statement here:
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Originally Posted by tkallab
I think I'm speaking for the most active members if not for the majority of the Dragon's Den if I say that we consider the group not a fanclub of the Dragon type, but just Dragon Pokémon. Coincidentally, most Pokémon we think are Dragons have the Dragon type, and while a Pokémon being Dragon-typed is a very heavy argument for a Pokémon being a Dragon, it's not definite proof of it. We take moves, breeding groups and above all looks and origins in account when deciding what Pokémon are Dragons.

Because I would really hate it if I was (kind of) representing the Dragon's Den and saying something no one agrees with.

wolf December 16th, 2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6344565)
I'll wait until Amore is gone, I think. I don't exactly know why, but I feel like it's the right thing to do, for some reason.

Also, I posted in this thread some time ago. I'm wondering if you guys agree with my statement here:

Because I would really hate it if I was (kind of) representing the Dragon's Den and saying something no one agrees with.

Just saying, sorry if the den disliked being set as an example. I was just confused by groups that say that their a <Pokemon>-type, then remove Pokemon of that type. :s I can understand if this is a club that includes Pokemon that seem like dragons though. Anyway, I'm no longer confused and don't care about a few other groups, so I'm not really going to bother posting in that thread. So no one really needs to waste their time.

Also, sorry for being inactive here (or pretty much any group I'm in) lately, been busy with other stuff.

Bhonjo December 18th, 2010 1:26 PM

am i still a member here???i think i'm a member from the previous dragon's den v.2 or v.3.. i forgot what version .. i visited this site since.. 2007 i think...

Silhouette December 18th, 2010 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6344565)
I'll wait until Amore is gone, I think. I don't exactly know why, but I feel like it's the right thing to do, for some reason.

Also, I posted in this thread some time ago. I'm wondering if you guys agree with my statement here:

Because I would really hate it if I was (kind of) representing the Dragon's Den and saying something no one agrees with.

No, I agree with the statement. Nice way to be representin'. ;D
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Originally Posted by Wolflare (Post 6344735)
Just saying, sorry if the den disliked being set as an example. I was just confused by groups that say that their a <Pokemon>-type, then remove Pokemon of that type. :s I can understand if this is a club that includes Pokemon that seem like dragons though. Anyway, I'm no longer confused and don't care about a few other groups, so I'm not really going to bother posting in that thread. So no one really needs to waste their time.

Also, sorry for being inactive here (or pretty much any group I'm in) lately, been busy with other stuff.

Eh, it's cool. Don't worry about it.
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Originally Posted by Bhonjo (Post 6348447)
am i still a member here???i think i'm a member from the previous dragon's den v.2 or v.3.. i forgot what version .. i visited this site since.. 2007 i think...

Well, we had to seriously revamp this thread, since the previous owner abandoned ship. But there's nothing stopping you from re-joining.

tkallab December 19th, 2010 1:03 AM

Darn, this place is kind of getting inactive... New topic?

If you could turn one non-legendary into a legendary, which one would it be?
For me, it would be Dragonair. Just because it looks so majestic and all-knowing.

Regeneration December 19th, 2010 2:08 AM

If you could turn one non-legendary into a legendary, which one would it be?
Salamence. This Pokemon actually looks like a legendary to me. XD I would really love it if Salamence were a legendary. It has pretty high stats as well. :D

Amore December 19th, 2010 5:18 AM

Tkallab...I'd prefer it if you started co-owning now, personally.

And yeah, I think I suggested another co-owner as far back as early November...it's not a new idea. Still, I'll add Bhonjo to my post...and I'll list myself as "Semi-retired", as I'll still keep a members list if you want (seeing as my post's at the top).

Changing non-legendaries into legendaries

I'd turn Gyarados into a legendary, as it appears in history, both mythical and factual...but then again, I like how you can get a dragon if you have the patience to train a Magikarp...

So, personally won't change any of them...

Dooonerz December 19th, 2010 9:45 AM

Ummm, I think Kingdra looks Legendary-ish. This is because he hides in whirlpools, making him a mystical playa. <3

Tony Montana December 19th, 2010 9:11 PM

I'd love to join. Dragons are awesome. And Red Gyarados, Charizard and Dragonite rule.

zapdos926 December 19th, 2010 9:39 PM

Sorry for my extreme amount of innactivity... I have only really had enough time to check my VM's, and my subscription to thread got cancelled, so I don't know what's going on, except for the most recent topic. Sorry again, hope I haven't been kicked out :(

on topic: Ima gonna have to say... Umm... None, for this reason: almost every legendary from the R/S/E era have been dragon, psycic or both. We need no more legendaries of those typings.

tkallab December 20th, 2010 1:06 AM

I do think Dragons a are the best fit to be legendaries, simply because we consider them as legendary in real life too. At least I do.

dragoniteuser December 20th, 2010 8:07 AM

Well let's see, what dragon pokemon is the strongest, and faints all other pokemon just by looking epic...? LOL
I'm kidding, i don't like legendaries, so i wouldn't make Dragonite one!
But, Kingdra perhaps...?

Dooonerz December 21st, 2010 8:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6351740)
Well let's see, what dragon pokemon is the strongest, and faints all other pokemon just by looking epic...? LOL
I'm kidding, i don't like legendaries, so i wouldn't make Dragonite one!
But, Kingdra perhaps...?

I don't know about Kingdra now, I mean, having a powerful Pokemon and having it being non-legendary is truly great. But having a legendary like Kingdra kinda takes away the epicness of it.. </3

Silhouette December 21st, 2010 1:04 PM

I could see either Garchomp or Salamence being legendary. Seeing as how they're both in uber now. >_>

Dooonerz December 21st, 2010 2:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Silhouette (Post 6353798)
I could see either Garchomp or Salamence being legendary. Seeing as how they're both in uber now. >_>

Oh nononononononono. Salamence is too good for legendaries.
If that's possible.

tkallab December 21st, 2010 2:57 PM

I'd say Salamence is too plain for a legendary. Not wise nor savage enough... And too small. Same goes for Garchomp.
I'm such a critic.

Anyway, I made this drawing of Reshiram and Zekrom for an upcoming chapter of my comic (the cartoon head in my signature), and I'm actually quite proud of it, so I thought I'd show it off here.

I can post it here, right? Since this is the Dragon Club and all... And if not, I just change the rules, I'm a co-owner! I kid, I kid.

Dooonerz December 22nd, 2010 3:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6353944)
I'd say Salamence is too plain for a legendary. Not wise nor savage enough... And too small. Same goes for Garchomp.
I'm such a critic.

Anyway, I made this drawing of Reshiram and Zekrom for an upcoming chapter of my comic (the cartoon head in my signature), and I'm actually quite proud of it, so I thought I'd show it off here.

I can post it here, right? Since this is the Dragon Club and all... And if not, I just change the rules, I'm a co-owner! I kid, I kid.

Salamence is wise enough! *goes to cry in a corner*

Niiicce, but, a bit scribbled don't you think?!

Regeneration December 22nd, 2010 3:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6353944)
I'd say Salamence is too plain for a legendary. Not wise nor savage enough... And too small. Same goes for Garchomp.
I'm such a critic.

I actually wondering what made you say that Salamence or even Garchomp was not wise enough. Is there anything backing that statement? A Pokemon Anime episode or maybe something from the manga would satisfy us.

And size, I believe is hardly an argument for a Pokemon not to be a legendary. We have had legendary Pokemon of any size, even though Dragon type Pokemon might not have been small. Exceptions always exist, and therefore a Dragon type Pokemon of a small height can be a legendary as well.

Dooonerz December 22nd, 2010 3:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Regeneration (Post 6354996)

I actually wondering what made you say that Salamence or even Garchomp was not wise enough. Is there anything backing that statement? A Pokemon Anime episode or maybe something from the manga would satisfy us.

It could be because that Salamence (<3) is a very angry Dragon and here's some proof:
Quote:

It's uncontrollable if enraged. It flies around spouting flames and scorching fields and mountains.
And I think that shows that he is rather unwise, even though he truly is awesome. <3

Regeneration December 22nd, 2010 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dooonerz (Post 6355001)
It could be because that Salamence (<3) is a very angry Dragon and here's some proof:

And I think that shows that he is rather unwise, even though he truly is awesome. <3

What does someone's anger have anything to do with one's wisdom? -_-

And even if that is the case, how are Pokemon like Mewtwo, Rayquaza, Arceus, etc. considered legendary? Haven't we had more than enough instances of their wrath?

What I finally want to say is that size, wisdom ( -_- ), etc are not the basis for Pokemon being considered legendary.

dragoniteuser December 22nd, 2010 11:34 AM

I don't see why any of them should be legendary...
Legendaries suck, so why would anyone want their pretious dragons brought to theur miserable lvl?!
'Nuff trolling, don't you think? :D

tkallab December 22nd, 2010 12:44 PM

How can you say legendaries as a group suck? Do they all have something in common, except for the fact that they are legendary?

Okay, I guess I was wrong about my arguments about Salamence, but I guess I just couln't really describe what I meant. Try replacing Rayquaza with Salamence in the Emerald cxutscene. Would he fit in? I doubt it, to be honest.
That's probably also a bad example, isn't it..? This is a pretty hard subject.

Silhouette December 22nd, 2010 2:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6353944)
I'd say Salamence is too plain for a legendary. Not wise nor savage enough... And too small. Same goes for Garchomp.
I'm such a critic.

*coughMewCelebiJirachiAzelfUxieMespritcough*

I think I caught something reeeeally bad while I was out in the snow. O_o
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6355582)
I don't see why any of them should be legendary...
Legendaries suck, so why would anyone want their pretious dragons brought to theur miserable lvl?!
'Nuff trolling, don't you think? :D

I think that it's extremely biased to simply say that legendaries suck just because they are legendaries. Beside, most of the 'legend' stuff that includes legendaries are just myths (i.e. we don't really know if Kyogre/Groudon created the sea/land, respectively).

I guess it's being very prejudice, which I'm strongly against (even if it is just Pokemon XD).

Regeneration December 22nd, 2010 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6355719)
How can you say legendaries as a group suck? Do they all have something in common, except for the fact that they are legendary?

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Originally Posted by Silhouette (Post 6355954)
I think that it's extremely biased to simply say that legendaries suck just because they are legendaries. Beside, most of the 'legend' stuff that includes legendaries are just myths (i.e. we don't really know if Kyogre/Groudon created the sea/land, respectively).

I guess it's being very prejudice, which I'm strongly against (even if it is just Pokemon XD).

You two can't even take a simple joke on dragoniteuser's part. XD

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Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6355719)
Okay, I guess I was wrong about my arguments about Salamence, but I guess I just couln't really describe what I meant. Try replacing Rayquaza with Salamence in the Emerald cxutscene. Would he fit in? I doubt it, to be honest.
That's probably also a bad example, isn't it..? This is a pretty hard subject.

You know what? Even if Rayquaza would be replaced with Latios in that scene, he wouldn't fit in. And Latios happens to be a legendary Pokemon. Get what I mean?

Silhouette December 23rd, 2010 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Regeneration (Post 6356525)



You two can't even take a simple joke on dragoniteuser's part. XD



It's a bit hard to tell one's tone through text... just sayin'. :P

Anyway, you never know. I don't understand why people really hate legendaries. D:

tkallab December 24th, 2010 3:05 AM

Darn it, now I feel the need to start a discussion about what makes a legendary a legendary, but I can't because this is the Dragon's Den...

Anyway, I can totally see Dragonair hiding in a holy lake or something.

Le Creep! December 24th, 2010 3:15 AM

Could I please be a member? :) I love dragon types, especially after acquiring a Dragonite..

tkallab December 24th, 2010 11:51 AM

Ummm, do I add the members now or does Amore still do that? We're kind of in a confusing situation right now...

dragoniteuser December 24th, 2010 12:57 PM

Well since Amore hasn't posted quite some time, I'd say you're pretty much on call here... :)

Oh, and welcome Le Creep! :D
PS: I love your username! :)

Silhouette December 26th, 2010 9:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Creep! (Post 6358927)
Could I please be a member? :) I love dragon types, especially after acquiring a Dragonite..

Welcome to the Den!
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6359108)
Ummm, do I add the members now or does Amore still do that? We're kind of in a confusing situation right now...

Yeah, you can make a list wherever you want, I can just link it in the first post.

tkallab December 28th, 2010 2:04 PM

Oh right, I'll make a members list in the first post I made in the thread.
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=6146464&postcount=5

Also, I have a new topic!
Do you think Dragons evolve at a too high level?

It's hard to make topics when everything has been done...

dragoniteuser December 29th, 2010 3:00 AM

No, they don't. Dragons are the most powerful Pokemon you'll find. So it's perfecty natural for them to take a while to evolve. Naturally, this doesn't mean that game-freak went overboard with the latest generation, cause lvl.70 for a moth is just too hogh, no matter hoe good the Pokemon is.

Xilfer December 29th, 2010 6:31 AM

Hey, I'm back, hope Draggy told ya i'd be gone.
Anyway as for the topic: the ne gen Vs evolve too slowly, it takes so long for them to reach their final form i mean, it's really anoying, dragons aren't the only ones, loads of cool pokemon take a century to get too. :(


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