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tkallab February 3rd, 2011 7:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow236 (Post 6432740)
I will request a re vote but I think it will be no use, cause you guys will just say no. SO yeah, I'm requesting a re vote and I vote YES

Okay, it's on. Read the rules below.

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Originally Posted by treecko0 (Post 6432864)
I would like a revote on the altaria
can we by any chance disscuss sceptile??? it looks dragon-ish to me more like garchomp style though

Sceptile, hmmm you're gonna have to find more arguments to support your theory if you want this to pass.

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Originally Posted by Regeneration (Post 6433887)
I love the way my post was absolutely ignored.

I say we go ahead for a re-vote.

Sorry, I got tangled up in the multitude of votes... I don't like ignoring people, but sometimes I get too comfused and I see past things.

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6434083)
You're not supposed to vote here publicly.
Send PM to tkallab with your vote.

BTW, tkallab my vote is coming to you right away...

Indeed.

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Is Altaria a Dragon or not?
Our current debate and vote. The Dragon/Flying Pokémon Altaria was removed from the Dragon's Den some months ago because the majority of Dragon's Den members voted him not a Dragon. Recently, this decision has been questioned, and for this reason, there will be voted again.

Here are the official rules:

Every voter will send me a PM (not VM)
The majority gets their way
In case of a draw I will disregard my own vote
The minority will accept their loss


Let the votes come in!

dragoniteuser February 3rd, 2011 8:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6434234)
Okay, it's on. Read the rules below.



Sceptile, hmmm you're gonna have to find more arguments to support your theory if you want this to pass.

Yeah, like that's gonna happen.
Look, we discussed this already, Sceptile isn't a dragon, and you won't be able to find any arguements, cause there aren't any. Some Dragon moves that Sceptile can learn isn't an arguement at all!

Quote:

In case of a draw I will disregard my own vote

I strongly disagree with this!
Why should your vote be any less important?!
I say, if it's a draw, the situation remains the same.
That's perfectly logical.

angel February 3rd, 2011 9:48 AM

Wow. o.O I think everybody needs to calm down! Let's go to another topic while we are voting. We don't need to be ganging up on each other. We are all dragon lovers here. So someone please make another topic.

dragoniteuser February 3rd, 2011 11:54 AM

Which Dragon pokemon (not only Dragon type) should be strongest (in any way you want) in your opinion?

Hijax February 3rd, 2011 1:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treecko0 (Post 6432864)
can we by any chance disscuss sceptile??? it looks dragon-ish to me more like garchomp style though

Sceptile is in the dragon egg group, so theres some more proof.

angel February 3rd, 2011 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6434334)


Yeah, like that's gonna happen.
Look, we discussed this already, Sceptile isn't a dragon, and you won't be able to find any arguements, cause there aren't any. Some Dragon moves that Sceptile can learn isn't an arguement at all!

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I strongly disagree with this!
Why should your vote be any less important?!
I say, if it's a draw, the situation remains the same.
That's perfectly logical.

First off, I'm not trying to start the fight over. However, this needs to be said. Sweetie, this wouldn't be fair either, since the people that voted no would get there way. I think it should be put on an undecided list, to be voted on on a later date.

Tony Montana February 3rd, 2011 8:12 PM

I think I'll leave the Den. I have little time to post and school will start for me in a couple weeks, and I have to get ready, so farewell...

dragoniteuser February 4th, 2011 5:21 AM

@Hijax
Sorry, but the rules of pokemon groups say you need to be a member to post in a group...
And a lot of pokemon are dragon egg group that have no resemblance to dragons, such as: Ekans, Arbok, Magikarp, Treeko line, Seviper, Zuruggu, Zuruzukin, so this arguement can be easily used against Sceptile.

@angel
Fine, I'm OK with that too, but I don't think tkallab's vote should be disregarded.

tkallab February 4th, 2011 6:05 AM

No, Hijax is a member. I'm afraid I overlooked you when I was adding the new members, Hijax. Sorry! I'll ad you the list right now.

Also, Draggy, Pokémon in the Dragon egg group that aren't Dragons but evolve into them are justified, of course.

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Notice: All votes need to be pm'ed to me. If you have posted yours in the thread earlier, you will still have to pm it too, because I'm not gonna search for everyone's votes later.

angel February 4th, 2011 7:52 AM

@Dragonite Me either.

Bye Tony!

Silhouette February 5th, 2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6434334)



Why should your vote be any less important?!
I say, if it's a draw, the situation remains the same.
That's perfectly logical.

This actually makes sense. However, it depends on the number of voters anyway. If there's an odd number of voters, we won't have to worry.
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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6434637)
Which Dragon pokemon (not only Dragon type) should be strongest (in any way you want) in your opinion?

I'd say Flygon. Because I don't know what else to say. :P
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Montana (Post 6435737)
I think I'll leave the Den. I have little time to post and school will start for me in a couple weeks, and I have to get ready, so farewell...

Oh darn. Good luck in school, though.

Mew~ February 5th, 2011 12:25 PM

Let me just break this down to you... -.-"

None of you decide what a Dragon is. There is no proof any such thing exists... In the topic of pokémon, Game Freak decide what a dragon is - not you... I see no point in voting either... And where the hell did tyranitar come from? o.O

I can't wait for you all to complain about Reshiram and Zekrom. Neither look Stereotypically like Dragons...

Finally got that off my chest...

moon February 5th, 2011 12:32 PM

Dragonite should be the strongest dragon, I think. One: because it's big. Two: because it's the original dragon. Three: because the thought of a pokémon that cute being the strongest is a nice thought.

RulerArceus February 5th, 2011 2:47 PM

Favorite Dragons?
Rayquaza,Giratina,Flygon, the Lati Twins,Garchomp, Dragonite,Kingdra,Dialga,Palkia,the list is too long!XD
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
GARCHOMP.DEFINATELY.Salamence is...Meh.
Lance or Clair?
Lance.Erika is right, the cape is ugly.Also, is she wearing a...Power Ranger suit?!?XD
Which Dragon looks best Shiny?
Flygon,the Lati Twins, Charizard and Rayquaza.Flygon and the L Twins are so beutiful in gold, and black is pretty awesome. Giratina is pretty cool too.
Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form?
ORIGIN!The reason I beat the game is to get the G Orb and Decimate the E4 without Bertha giving me Trouble!
Whats your Dragon Team?
Erm...None yet XD. Dragons are hard to find in HG/SS!
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Definatley.that would explain TTar having Dragon Dance.
What is your favorite legendary Dragon?
Giratina.
Soooo.... Now that I answered the questions,can I Join? :).
¬RulerArceus

dragoniteuser February 6th, 2011 3:34 AM

Welcome Ruler Arceus.
I'm sure that tkallab, the co-owner, will add you to the list soon.

Now, if you see couple of us in a strong disscussion, don't be discouraged to join in "the fight", cause we do this quite often here... XD

KitKat13 February 6th, 2011 4:05 AM

I'm joining! :3
Favorite Dragons?
Dragonite, Altaria, Palkia, Giratina, Garchomp, and so on.
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
Of course, they're pretty cool.
Lance or Clair?
Clair, I prefer female dragon trainers. xD
Which Dragon looks best Shiny?
I really like the shiny form of Altaria.
Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form?
Origin form is epic!
Whats your Dragon Team?
Too many. :3
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
It doesn't look like one.
What is your favorite legendary Dragon?
Palkia. XD

RulerArceus February 6th, 2011 11:46 AM

Which Dragon pokemon (not only Dragon type) should be strongest (in any way you want) in your opinion?
Thats too many conflicting opinions you have just given me,Dragoniteuser!
I'd say Rayquaza.The Lati's a close second, with Dragonite getting third place.
¬RulerArceus


dragoniteuser February 6th, 2011 1:56 PM

Sorry, didn't think it'd get confusing...
But i agree, Rayquaza SHOULD be the strongest, it's just so epic!
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/21775/767349-rayquaza_super.jpg
I mean, if this doesn't say: Power, I don't know what does!

RulerArceus February 6th, 2011 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6441179)
Sorry, didn't think it'd get confusing...
But i agree, Rayquaza SHOULD be the strongest, it's just so epic!
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/21775/767349-rayquaza_super.jpg
I mean, if this doesn't say: Power, I don't know what does!

No, It's that there are to many awesome dragons, I had a hard time deciding!XD
But yeah, Rayquaza is the Leader of the Hoenn Trio,wich explains both why it's a dragon type and why it's so awesome<3.


Silhouette February 6th, 2011 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulerArceus (Post 6438991)
Favorite Dragons?
Rayquaza,Giratina,Flygon, the Lati Twins,Garchomp, Dragonite,Kingdra,Dialga,Palkia,the list is too long!XD
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
GARCHOMP.DEFINATELY.Salamence is...Meh.
Lance or Clair?
Lance.Erika is right, the cape is ugly.Also, is she wearing a...Power Ranger suit?!?XD
Which Dragon looks best Shiny?
Flygon,the Lati Twins, Charizard and Rayquaza.Flygon and the L Twins are so beutiful in gold, and black is pretty awesome. Giratina is pretty cool too.
Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form?
ORIGIN!The reason I beat the game is to get the G Orb and Decimate the E4 without Bertha giving me Trouble!
Whats your Dragon Team?
Erm...None yet XD. Dragons are hard to find in HG/SS!
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Definatley.that would explain TTar having Dragon Dance.
What is your favorite legendary Dragon?
Giratina.
Soooo.... Now that I answered the questions,can I Join? :).
¬RulerArceus

Quote:

Originally Posted by KitKat13 (Post 6440278)
I'm joining! :3
Favorite Dragons?
Dragonite, Altaria, Palkia, Giratina, Garchomp, and so on.
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
Of course, they're pretty cool.
Lance or Clair?
Clair, I prefer female dragon trainers. xD
Which Dragon looks best Shiny?
I really like the shiny form of Altaria.
Giratina: 'Origin' Form or 'Another' Form?
Origin form is epic!
Whats your Dragon Team?
Too many. :3
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
It doesn't look like one.
What is your favorite legendary Dragon?
Palkia. XD

Welcome to the Den, both of ya. Enjoy the wonderful arguments discussions that we provide.

tkallab February 7th, 2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mew~ (Post 6438667)
Let me just break this down to you... -.-"

None of you decide what a Dragon is. There is no proof any such thing exists... In the topic of pokémon, Game Freak decide what a dragon is - not you... I see no point in voting either... And where the hell did tyranitar come from? o.O

I can't wait for you all to complain about Reshiram and Zekrom. Neither look Stereotypically like Dragons...

Finally got that off my chest...

I had to think a long time about my reply to this post. Thank you, Mew~. This post and others really made me think.

In a way, we do decide what Dragons are. The Dragon type is an Element, assigned to some Dragons. But there are other Dragons that do not have that typing, the best example being Charizard, the very definition of a Western Dragon. So we add some Dragons to the list.
In the same spirit, Altaria is hardly a Dragon. Because of that reason, he was voted out of the Den long ago. But because he's a Dragon Type, he's still a topic of discussion and should be added in the Den, Dragon or not.

The voting is to make things happen democratically to make sure the majority is happy. Moreover, it's the way to do this I got used to :/

Tyranitar was already in the Den when I got here, but he was a subject to discussion some time ago and I think I'm the cause that he's still here, even though I was for removing him at the end...

Can't wait for Reshiram and Zekrom either... In my opinion, they're both just Dragons, really cool ones at that too...

Also, please don't forget to vote, people! I'll send pm reminders around too, I guess :/

dragoniteuser February 7th, 2011 1:11 PM

And when excatly is the voting over?
The sooner the results are in, the sooner will all this end.

tkallab February 7th, 2011 2:12 PM

I'll figure that out when I stop being ill. But there are only a few people who have voted this far. So I'll go pm a lot of members later, and then we'll see.

treecko0 February 14th, 2011 5:31 PM

Are the results in????????

tkallab February 14th, 2011 10:27 PM

Oh, I'm sorry, not yet. There are still people who need to vote, and it really wouldn't be fair to continue without their votes, because they expressed their opinions very clearly in the thread. I said I was going to pm them, but I haven't done that either, because I need to figure out tho whom I send the pm' then, and I haven't found the time to do that because of IRL stress.

I sincerely apologize, but it's gonna take just a little bit longer. I'm gonna try to make some time today, I've decided.


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