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B/W Legendaries Discussion
On http://www.serebii.net/, Serebii just announced a large number of Pokemon legendary typings, including notably a pure-flying type, and a number of fighting-typed legendaries as well (and a Bug-Steel)
New gen also shall contain 156 Pokemon in it apparently.
(Also Huin City has boats that takes you to islands but that's less cool info. ;p) |
So... Atleast 13 legendarys *sigh* Kinda.But atleast only 3 are event. And wow, pure flying type. Thats a first!
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I like that there'll finally be a fightiing- and bug-type legendary, but still no poison-type. D: Dragon/dark is a unique typing and would make for an interesting pseudolegendary family. :D Also, I'm calling it that the ice/dragon legendary will probably be the third version mascot. XD all in all, this reveals quite a bit I must say. XD |
Looks like a lot of people got the type combinations of their wishes:
-Dark/Dragon (one of the more epic type combinations) -Ice/Dragon (another epic combination) -Finally; a pure Flying type! Wonder what it could be. Also, it looks like Grass/Fighting, Steel/Fighting, Water/Fighting, Electric/Flying, Normal/Psychic and Ground/Flying are making a comeback. |
Grass, steel and rock with /fighning types will probably be a set of 3 region representatives like articuno, zapdos, moltres, and the rest.
Also add 1 more legendary....victiny :P |
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I bet the Dark/Dragon evolution chain will be the new pseudo legendaries and I bet the Ice/Dragon legendary is gonna be the third member of Reshiram and Zekrom's trio.
They should have made 157 pokemon instead of 156 so there would be 650 pokemon instead of a random 649. |
156 new pokemon, bringing the total to 649:
I am very happy to hear this! So many new Pokemon! This is the biggest increase ever! It even beats Generation I in numbers! This is awesome. This should mean there will be something for everyone, if they did it right... 3 event Pokemon: Oh thank God there wasn't a stupidly high amount. Anything higher than 5 would have had me angry. But isn't it technically 4 if you add Victini? I can live with that. #633, #634 and #635 are a dark/dragon evolution chain: Dark and Dragon for the dragon family for this generation? I hope the dark side to them really does show in the designs. That would be awesome if #635 was really menacing and scary. Hey! There is no mention of #636 or #637!! *curiosity overload* #638 is steel/fighting: Eh, makes me think Lucario but I am sure it will be awesome as well. #639 is rock and fighting: That's a first! I am very fascinated by this one! #640 is grass and fighting: Only other Pokemon with that combination is Breloom! Considering Breloom is one of my favorites, I am looking forward to more on 640. #641 is PURE FLYING: I sure hope this is not just a bird because it seems like all birds are normal/flying. Seeing as this has lost the normal type it should also probably lose the bird look a fair bit. Of course it will have wings but I dont want to just see a big bird... So happy about a pure flying type though! #642 is electric/flying: Says Zapdos to me. Should be interesting to see how this pokemon will be different from Zapdos, similar to how 638 will be different to Lucario. Reshiram and Zekrom are #643 and #644: No big deal #645 is ground/flying: Naturally you would think that this Pokemon would be the third in the legendary trio but 646 is Ice/Dragon. A more fitting type. So how does this legendary come into play and how will it be different from Gligar and Gliscor move wise? #646 is Ice/Dragon: This will make my friend squeal! He has always wanted this combination! Anyways, this seems more fitting for the third in the trio due to it's dragon part. I am looking forward to seeing the design! -Event legendaries- Yawn. Designs is all that captures my curiosity considering I will probabaly never get these. However I see Victini is not mentioned here. I have so far been under the impression Victini is 000 on the regional and something more fitting in the national. Yet he is not mentioned here... Maybe they just didn't mention him and he is actually #650? I must know! |
^ I believe it's probably the only other legendary though unless the dex is really flunky/there's more pokemon that show up at the start of the dex (which I don't see happening). But hey, 13 out of 156 ain't so bad (better ratio than with gen 4 I suppose assuming that's all), and 3 are event-only anyways. (And I'm a believer of the 'if you don't want them then don't catch them' philosophy. ;p)
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Victini is #494. Don't worry.
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For those annoyed about there being too many legendaries, I'll just do this comparison (# of legends in a generation:# of total pokemon in a generation):
Gen I: 5:151 = about 1:30 Gen II: 6:100 = about 1:17 Gen III: 10:135 = about 1:14 Gen IV: 14:107 = about 1:8 Gen V: 13:156 = exactly 1:12 |
I can't help but to be pissed that there is still no Poison - Type Legendary.
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@Sora's Nobody: Clearly Victini is actually Tsutaaja and noone has told us yet.
I really like the typings - and 156 is a pretty good number. The pure flying will be interesting, which just makes me think Wooguru (even though it's not, but still). Dragon/Ice, expected, so yay. And dark/dragon? :D! That is so awesome, really. Interesting that there are only four dragon legendaries, though (if I counted correctly). |
Pure Flying?!? Blasphemy!
...Seriously though, unlike most, I think it's good that they're introducing more Legends. Just as long as they don't try to make the father and mother of Arceus or anything, then that's all good. Also, on Victini, I'm pleased that it's not #000. Nothing replaces MissingNo., man! |
"#633 to 635 are dark/dragon legendaries (likely the 'psuedo-legend' imo like tyranitar, garchomp, etc)."
Yeah, and I bet people are gonna go crazy for those. Dark-types always seem to be popular with people, and with the added Dragon-typing, it should be interesting. Personally I'm more interested in the Ice/Dragon type. :D |
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WHOAO AND ONLY 8 DAYS TO GO NCIE!The only i am sad is that they passed teh number of teh 1st gen poekmon for five pokemon.
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With no mention of 636 and 637, I think that they are Zorua and Zoroark, I may be wrong though.....
So, since there are 153 obtainable in game out of the 156 total, with 3 being event only, that makes Zorua and Zoroark obtainable in game (possilby from an egg given to you by someone), and one of these 3 mentioned on the bottom is ingame, not event, making the Water/Fighting legendary obtainable in game! #633 to 635 are dark/dragon legendaries (likely the 'psuedo-legend' imo like tyranitar, garchomp, etc). Aww, I was expecting Kibago to be the Dratini of the game..... #638 = Steel/Fighting legendary #639 = Rock/Fighting legendary #640 = Grass/Fighting legendary Sweet, we finnaly get Fighting type legends outside of Fist Plate Arceus! #641 = Pure Flying legendary And at long last, after 15 years of waiting, a PURE Flying type..... #642 = Flying/Electric legendary Clearly a Zapdos clone with better stats..... #643 = Reshiram #644 = Zekrom And we have these guys too! #645 = Ground/Flying legendary Water and oil don't mix, and neither do these types..... #646 = Dragon/Ice legendary And here is the mascot of Pokemon Grey Version #647 = Water/Fighting legendary I consider this one obtainable in game because Serebii said only 3 event Pokemon, and Victini counts as one of them..... Well, at least that's one less event Pokemon from last generation..... #648 = Normal/Psychic Event legendary #649 = Bug/Steel Event legendary And we finally get a Bug legendary! |
really looking forward for the new legends
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I am still very pissed that there is still no Poison-Type Legendary... I hope this is wrong in some way even though it's not.
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I'm curious about the Dark type legendary and I'm interested to see what it's design is going to be like. But I think that there's now too many legendary Pokemon, as there's now going to be 13 legendary Pokemon including Victini. Far too many for me anyway.
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so 14 legends like in gen4...
but 156 new pokemon all together? hmmmm i dont think we will be seeing any previous gen evos :) / :( i wanted pachirisu to get a nice evo, but its chill, all my other favs got their evos in gen4, minus sableye so im chill with 156 new pokemon :) time to dust off my AR for those 4events legends (including Victini) :P ice/dragon itll be epic... i apologize for my distain for reshiram... zekrom has been one of my fav legends since i saw it :) a fighting trio? so gen1&2: electric-fire-ice/water. gen3: mythical ages. gen4: emotion psychic types. and now a fighting trio??? to be honest im shocked, i expected a fire trio or a poison trio since its based on NYC, im looking forward to this. Pure flying type, FINALLY! with chatots disappointment of being normal flying,after serebii revealed it pure flying, i was heart broken, ive been wanting a pure flying since gen3 revealed no results :) zapdos evolution? O.o" (i kid) but im kinda disappointed on this, i wanted something interesting, not another zapdos, only zapdos is zapdos in my heart <3 ground/flying? why? :( i dont want anything over taking gligar/gliscor :( the other 3event legends.... water/fighting is ok :) normal/psychic????? but, no :( why not ghost normal, or ghost psychic? :( bug/steel PURE EPIC WIN! i sure hope its design doesnt disappoint, and as odd as it sounds... i want it to be special based, thatll totally blow my mind if its special not physical XD gen5 if those gawd awful starter evos are real,youve made up for it with the legends of this region <3 love gen5 |
Wow. These legends seem more epic than all the others so far. I really can't wait 'til March.
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Reshiram=Fire/Dragon Zekrom=Electric/Dragon ????=Ice/Dragon Lol Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres xD |
Pokemon are Pokemon, who cares if they're legends or not. More to catch (But isnt that the entire basis of Pokemon? 0_o) I can't wait until i get B&W, those type combos are sick. Dark/Dragon FTW. :D
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If this stuff is true, which I'm really starting to think is, I can't wait to see what the Fighting type trio looks like, though I kind of wish they had different primary typings...
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Pure Flying Legendary is want, but boo. I can;t use it on my Pokemon team. ;;
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Oh and Ice/Dragon legendary! <3 |
A Bug legendary, finally! Now it's like Timbjerr said; we need our Poison Legendary
The Ice/Dragon one sounds pretty awesome, as well as the pure flying Pokemon. Well, at least one of the two major things have been put in (Bug Legendary for one). Now I'm hoping that the other thing I'm wishing for will be. |
I'll bet that the pure flying pkmn have an ability that prevents the loss of its flying type.
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Seems as the legendary trio is fighting typed. Nice! I particularly am interested in the Flying adn Ground/Flying legendaries! Oh, and the Bug/Steel one too!
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Dragon/Ice omgomgomgomgomg I'm very excited :D
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I don't care that there's 13 legendaries or whatever, since I don't bother to catch most of them. XD However, I am very interested in this Grass-Fighting type, hmm, hmmm. It'd damn better look super-cool, or I won't be using it; I like Breloom, but not enough to use it (as far as Hoenn Grass goes, Shiftry, Cacturne and Cradily are the best and the ones), so we'll see about this.
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Water and oil DO mix, and they make a great pasta. Just look at Glissscorrr. |
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I don't mind the 13 legendaries. Gives me something to do after I beat the E4 in this game. (My friends and I race to see who can usually get all legendaries obtainable in that Gen first. I always win. XD)
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Praying that the Ice/Dragon isn't the third to this set. If it is, this kills my love I've had for the entire game series. There is very little point stressing the balance between two just to randomly throw in a third that has nothing to do with them.
What could it represent? Zekrom is industrialism and Reshiram is naturalism. They even tie in through Pokemon Species. Black Yang and White Yin. ugh just no. Don't need third fail add on. I am excited about pure flying and Dark/Dragon. Like the Ice/Dragon but don't want to see if made into a third member to the set which would make it pretty fail. Oh here is some random thing I created that plays no part in the story line but is the equal to these two epic master pieces. Quote:
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I think that many legendaries are a bad idea....
I thought D/P/P would be the last game with alot of legendaries... |
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well not counting the Pseudos, the event pokemon AND the all mighty ZOR...
that makes... 9 legendary pokemon :D |
I think I'm gonna cry! It'll take up like three boxes to fit all the legendaries i have in the CP. Especially after these come out!
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I'm actually quite excited to see the designs of these new Pokémon, more than I was expecting to be. I'm glad that we're getting some kind of variety to the typings, as well.
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This thread is so epic.
Super excited for every Pokemon ! Mostly for the Pure Flying type and the last Pokemon (Bug/Steel). I'm pretty sure that the Bug/Steel type is our Mewtwo/Arceus/Deoxys ? |
Copy Zapdos, the Gligar family, and possibly a few others (can't remember) why don't you?
God....well, at least we get bug, fighting, pure-flying, and no psychic... |
Hmm, wow. Dark/dragon? Did I accidently run into one of the designers and mention that those are my favourite types or what?
I'm stuck on whether or not I hope Serebii's actually got it right this time. I'm really loving the interesting typing, like you all are saying (pure flying! score!), but I'm also really annoyed about the sheer number of legenaries. Couldn't they have just made awesome /average/ Pokemon with these types? Maybe a couple to use in the metagame? I guess if they come up with good backstories for all of them I can forgive them a little; it's the only reason I accept the multitude gen IV gave us. As for the repeat typings...I've already given them a little room on that because this region is so independent of the others that /something/ has to fill the similar niches filled by the Pokemon we're already familiar with. (If I could actually live in the Pokemon world...I might be intested in biology for once, especially for the sake of doing full comparisons between regions and our world.) Dragon/Ice automatically struck me as the third version mascot. I'm hoping they'll pull more of a GSC moment and make the third something related to, but not a part of the same group as the original mascots. I agree that it would be quite pointless to add a third party in if they're going for a yin/yang theme. |
At first I was like "Wow that's a lot of legendaries!" Then I realized, it's pretty much the same amount as D/P/Pt, and there are more new Pokemon, so it's not as much in comparison.
The typing is what really interests me. I can't wait to see them and what they can do! Ground/Flying reminds me of Gligar and Gliscor, they are my favorites! The pure Flying and Bug/Steel also has me interested. |
Can't wait :D
I love all the old pokemon but I still love to see new pokemon and 156 new pokemon is awesome! I think it will have a really fresh feel to it this game I hope their is bare minimum of pokemon from other generations, probably won't contact any previous generations with it either for a long time just really get the most out of it :D |
i like the new possible pseudo's typing, but i guarentee after a month he'll be uber do to his sexy typing
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636 - 637 are Zoura and Zourark (probably) 641 Pure Flying type hmm i see this one as the Cresela of the 5th gen or it might be another "cute" (manaphy, shaymen, mew etc) Legend of this gen 642 Electric/Fly (Aka death via Stelth Rock) is problem the Hetran of this Gen 643 - 644 we know these guys already 645 Ground/Flying I didn't see this one coming 646 - Dragon/Ice may be this gens Garatina or maybe not hmmm 648 Normal/Psychic basicly Shaymin like poke will probly be in movie 15 or 16 649 Bug/Steel the Darkrai poke of this gen possibly related to Ononokuso 638 - 640 and 647 well these 4 are the Trio and Leader for this gen (the elemental Regis and Gigas there leader) the Steel,Rock,Grass ones(followers) and the Water one(leader) are all connected to the islands mentioned above you will use the Huin City boats (after the E4) to go to each island do a puzzle fight and catch the Legend poke do another puzzle unlock the next pokes island tell you have the first 3 then you'll get a "ticket" via a Nintendo event to the fourth island to get the Water/Fighting legend |
I'm guessing the Steel/Fighting, Rock/Fighting, and Grass/Fighting are the trio of this region.
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Ok, everyone who is saying Electric/Flying is a Zapdos copy, shut up.
Alakazam and Espeon are both psychic, would you flame Gamefreak for that? Exactly. |
Whyyy? Why did they have to put all these good typings on LEGENDS?
(AKA: Pokemon that I never use xD) A pure Flying-type sounds interesting, though. I'd like to see what they could do with it. And the trio will be fighters? I like that, but Steel/Fighting again? Hah, looks like Lucario is no longer unique (just like Medicham... u_u). Zomg, maybe it'll be that cat Lucario alternate I've been hoping for--... but I doubt it. Another thing is that I'm seriously getting tired of event legendaries. They're becoming annoying, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who was majorly pissed off when they realized Zoroark and even ZORUA was event-only Pokemon. >.> In general, these are all very interesting typings! ...But it sucks that they're all being wasted on legends... IMO. u_u |
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+ Nrm/Psy = Win. |
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I don't mind that there's so many legends. XD More legendaries means more choices for those who like to battle in the Uber Tier.
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Edit: Actually, the new typings could make sense. Zekrom and Reshiram represent different forms of energy, maybe the Ice one is suppose to represent lack of energy? ?0_o? |
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Soooooooooo sick of Dragon pokes. Im all for fighting. Dragon pokemon are overrated, I love fighting, and poison. I try to use pokemon that aren't used very much. U know like swalot, pinsir, etc. I am not too excited for all these legends.
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I like it that we finally got a Bug and Fighting type legendary pokemon, we are only missing poison... Also the Dragon/Ice as lack of energy is a good idea it matches the same thing that Giratina was going for you know how Dia and Pal were Space-time well Gira represented the opposite while Rash and Zek are energy and the other one could be lack and energy and also maybe the destruction of the world...I'm thinking it's the sub zero pokemon... |
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I never saw Giratina as a third either. I don't remember the actual Pokemon Games saying it was even with Palkia or Dialga story wise, only that it appeared when Cyrus was trying to destroy the dimension by using Palkia and Dialga and Giratina repaired it. Shortly after the spirits came and subdued the two Dragons and released them from the Red Chain. The Spirits are also tied into Dialga and Palkia but not Giratina. Also Ice isn't lack of energy. It takes energy to form ice, but the energy is released into the atmosphere causing the particles to bunch up and the form to solidify. When energy is added back to ice, the particles space out and the Ice melts. The Ice Dragon still doesn't relate to the Yin and Yang portion of Reshiram and Zekrom. And if this is the third Game Mascot, then the game is going to be some shade of blue as Ice has a clear to natural blueish color. Depending on the Water that was frozen. |
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omg too many goddamn legendaries, it kind of defeats the purpose!
give us like 3 and make the rest normal pokemon, not 12! |
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They are just adding so many Legendary Pokemon now. Kinda wonder why?
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A lot of people are saying "OH NO! LOTS OF LEGENDS"
Personally, I like having a lot of them. I mean, even if you don't count the legends, you still have more Pokemon that has ever been revealed. Also, why do people even care about legends? You either like them or you don't. If you don't, just don't catch the ones you don't need to. It's not a big deal. It's like complaining about a spider in the other room, which you don't have to go into. |
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Seriously people, take your whining elsewhere and listen to Surmonter, for he speaks the truth. |
Sheesh, just because people don't like something, doesn't mean you should attack them. People are entitled to their own opinions. They may think it's too many legendaries, and some may think it's not enough, or just the right amount. It just bothers me how people who likes something is praised, and those who don't are bashed. :/
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Though I like the number it's just right for me :D |
We don't purposely bash anybody. It's just the fact that complaining about an optional aspect of the game can get annoying, I personally hate it.
On topic: I'm pretty sure I'll fall in love with each and every legendary in this Gen. I'm a big fan of diverse trios and legends so these stole my heart already! |
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So now, there are three trios? A trio of trios! I LIKE IT! |
Well, out of all 13, the only thing that would annoy me about this is if there were an overwhelming amount of Ubers. It's okay to be legendary and not Uber.
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I can agree and disagree with pretty much everything said, I don't like that there are a ridiculous amount of legends but then again I still want to catch them.
What I really want is for the game to come out so that everyone will shut up over what's real and/or fake. The arguments are really starting to annoy me. |
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But I'll just end it here. Not gonna start a useless argument. ._. |
I don't get why there are 3 trios but okay. They all sound boring except for the space robot bug thing.
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156 new Pokemon is just perfect for me! I wanted a huge number! ;)
I am REALLY interested in the Dragon/Ice type. What sort of tail would it have (to go along with Reshiram and Zekrom's style)?? Maybe a fan looking thing? I really want to see the Dark/Dragons, I hope they look evil hehe. The legendaries sound very interesting... the fighting trio, and the pure flying type. |
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Well, I'm pretty happy with the legendaries, even though I haven't seen 'em XD; but I do like the types, and there be a lot but it's like half of the sinnoh legendaries.
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2 legendary trios!! NOOO! talk about breaking tradition in this gen, based in America, Pokedex restarts, another continent, and now two possible trio's. I hope the birds actually aren't a trio as we already have one. I hope the fighting legendaries are the only trio in this gen.
I personally think that pokemon are going over the top with legends. I think the perfect number was gen 3. not too much or too little. I like the sounds of the bug legendary though. Yay for bugs ^.^ |
bug legend will be cool. I'd like to see that!
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A bug/ steel legend too. It might be a Rhinoceros beetle as the are strong like steel and a bug. I reckon it will look awesome.
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I'm actually quite pleased to see this many legendaries (though I'm certain pseudo legendaries will be some of the revealed ones). I'm interested to see the Dragon/ice type, as well as pure Flying and Bug/Steel.
As far as mascots are concerned, I believe the artwork done for both Zekrom and Reshiram are absolutely wonderful (I wasn't too much a fan of anything after Gen II). Reshiram seems more of a majestic (or perhaps angelic) drake of a sort, while Zekrom is more along the lines of a futuristic "dark dragon, you could say. More than likely, they will be legendaries I'll want to both own at one time (again, hasn't been any mascots I've wanted to own both of since Gen II). |
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it already has 3heads& it has dark blue colours :) also cuz brionac has 1head grushina has 2heads & it ends with trishula in 3heads :) |
Awesome blend of new typings.
I see a trio of Fighting legendaries...ninjas? :bandit: of course Too bad Reshiram isn't all that great, because a fire/dragon pokemon was a total dream :\ :t270: |
The pure flying-type, bug-steel, normal-psychic interest me the most. I think the bug-steel will be like Scizor xD But the pure flying-type is the awesome-ist so far.
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#635 is going to look sick if pokebeach.com was right today. In their description it said it was going to be a 3 headed dragon...
But I have always had a soft spot for dragons :) |
I am interested in our first bug legendary and our Fighting trio the most as we have never gotten a legendary (not counting Arceus) with those types until now :)
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