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Oh wow... That is ridiculously easy, regardless if you need to catch them to.............. You know. |
Ok I am a bit confused... is that 'my little pony' pokemon a legendary... or even real? Its not showing up on the Serebii pokedex page from what I can see :S
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It's one of the last Pokemon in the Pokemon even on Serebii...
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Look at Veekun.com Tells you everything if it isn't appearing on Serebii. My little Pony is now my favourite legendary pokemon of Gen. It's simplistic 'non-robotic', old school design, that is appealing, has a perfect colour blend and awesome typing (Grass/Fighting <3) I just love it so much, and it's shiny form is just stunning. http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/640.png It is so elegant too, and it has the most peculiar shaped head. I just love it. |
I think by the "My Little Pony" pokemon, people are talking about Keldeo: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/86/647.png
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I'm liking most of the new legendaries. The two mascot Pokes Zekrom and Reshiram are sick and I love them, their appearance, animations, and typing are all amazing and I think they are some of the best legendaries. I dislike the genies, I really hate that they are just palette swaps.
Kyurem is pretty awesome as well and I have yet to fully judge what I think of the others. |
The funny thing is that the capture rate of last gen's mascots was like 5 while this gen's like 40...
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thanks guys for helping me out haha, I knew I had seen that pony 'Keldeo' somewhere before and then I suddenly couldn't find it again!
Its super cute, probably my fav legendary (it is a legendary right? :P) |
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And you're point is? Latias and Latios were barely different to me when I first got Sapphire. I saw the two and thought one was made for Ruby and the other for Sapphire, but otherwise saw no difference than one's red and one's blue.
Atleast the genie's have distinct differences. Would everyone get off their little powertrip about how they have the same position? |
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They just look stupid and lazy, yeah Latias and latios were similar but at least their poses were different!! thats what people are getting at, no one cares if they look similar, people just care that the dude who created them couldn't be screwed changing their positions a little. |
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I don't really complain about the genies I like them enough with the difference in "rings" but then again I'm not that hard to please...
I would have liked it though if they had made the electric one have it's hands up high as if harnessing lightning or have Zeus like pose... |
...wow...I never actually thought people could be so...nit-picky...
In that case, why don't people get pissy that several Pokemon have the same cries? Charizard and Rhydon do. So do Poliwag and Ditto. Yet no one seems to give a damn. Also, if I remember correctly, Dragonair and Onix sahre the exact same sprite positioning in HG/SS. @JP: It was actually aimed Pink Squid, but you ninja'd before I could get my post in. |
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One thing I don't like about the genies is the dots that make them look sick. |
The dots, IMO, don't make them seem so much sick as more like feral cats. Cheetahs or Leopards.
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I agree with Mag about the Genies and their dots. They're really what bother me about their designs. |
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If the Genies had different poses they would be great I mean the designs are really cool as is only thing is the poses. :\ |
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They're posed differently, their colours are different, they're just 'twin' pokemon. People do not like the way the 3 genies are posed exactly the same, thats people's issues with them, not that their forms look the same, thats fine, I would like it if they were triplet pokemon, just don't use the same sprite and colour it different, you're the one getting all up tight about it, and nit-picking on other people's opinions wow, double standards much?? |
.....And let's get back on topic.
Seeing as we still don't have Sugumori art for all the legends, I'm still apprehensive about them. Aside from Reshram and Zekrom, the only legend I really like atm is Genosect. The sprites are pretty vague, and it doesn't help that they all have complex designs. That being said, my opinion on them will in all likelihood improve once I get a clearer picture of them. I will always refer to Kerudio as My little Pony, though. xDDDDD |
Genosect's design is pretty awesome. It has Transformers written all over it XD
Looks more like a decepticon of course lol. |
A little speculation.
Who will be the next Event Pokèmon released? Kerudio, Meloetta or Genosekuto? As me, I hope it will be Genosekuto. I love that guy, and I want his Cassettes :D Or Kerudio. I hate Meloetta :D |
the only legendaries i like are Zekrom Reshiram and the Blue and Green Musketeer Goats xD
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I'm not a big fan of Meloetta's regular forme, but the red and black one is really cool looking. |
Would it be okay if I bumped this...?
Anyway, I'll give my thoughts on the legendary musketeers (Cobalon, Terrakion, Virizion, Keldeo) in competitive terms. Aesthetically, I was surprised when I learned that they were quadrupedal Fighting types. It took me a while to figure out how they were able to use their signature Sacred Sword without having to stand on 2 legs (I know now that they perform the move using their horns). Cobalon: It's got the same typing as Lucario, but its offenses are weaker. It can take physical hits better than Lucario can, but its Special Defense is a bit exposed, but it can be fixed with Calm Mind. Terrakion: The only musketeer to have a unique type combination among the four (Cobalon has Lucario's typing, Virizion has Breloom's typing and Keldeo has Poliwrath's typing). Rock/Fighting provides good coverage. Looking at Terrakion's stats and movepool, it does one thing very well: physical sweeping. It can rip holes through most opponents, and can take hits well (though it isn't as bulky as Cobalon or Virizion in the physical and special departments, respectively). Virizion: Like Breloom, Virizion is Grass/Fighting, giving it a natural resistance to the QuakeEdge combination. Its Defense is low, unfortunately, and Grass/Fighting is resisted by Flying types (who are taken care of by Stone Edge). What I do like about it, though, is its high Special Defense, which is the highest among Grass and Fighting types; that can be amplified further by Calm Mind, but its low Defense is still a problem. Keldeo: When I first saw it, I thought it looked like some sort of donkey/pony. After seeing it in battle, I developed a newfound respect for it. That's because it learns Sword of Mystery, which works in the same way as Psycho Shock. Its Attack and Special Attack are the reverse of Terrakion's. At a glance, Heart of Justice seems like a waste on Keldeo due to its 72 Attack. But with Swords Dance, that stat can be pushed further. |
The four musketeers seem like interesting pokemon to train, they all have awesome typing and one great stat (Defense, Attack, Special Attack and I'm not sure on keldo's biggest stat...)
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The only relevant legends are Terakion (non-uber) and Reshiram (uber). Everything else can go die in a fire as far as I'm concerned, XD, especially Kyurem. Zekrom is cool, but idc about it, and the musketeers are okay I guess, but Terakion is the only one I truly like. As for the genies... not my cup of tea, but I don't really hate them either. The Regis were far worse honestly. :>
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Kyurem has to be my favorite of the Dragon Trio... It seems vicious.
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I'm nicknaming mine Kyo after a character in a story of mine who just so happens to be Dragon/ Ice (well he's also part grass but yeah...) |
Wow, seems like a lot of legendaries. o_o I'm cool with it, the more the better! :D
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this legendary pokemon are kinda cool, and have one pure flying is the best
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I agree, I hate the design of it, I thought it'd look angelic and instead we get... that.
But meh, it's a good start for the future at least. XD |
Just a quick note since the other thread discussing Victini, Zekrom and Reshiram died, we'll just discuss all of the legendaries for B/W here instead. This makes it a bit better anyway; I saw no reason for one with just those three legendaries and the rest here. n_n
Aside from that, I'm pretty satisfied with the legendaries. Meloetta would be one of my favorites, I just love its lady-like look. Being a psychic type, I'd say it has the calm/careful appearance fit for it. Also, you can tell these games want you to go far in levels with these Pokémon as Meloetta learns Perish Song at LV 85. o-o; As for Meloetta's other forme (the Step Forme), I find it have a more old/grandma style. XD; I suppose that just fits the fighting type all the more though. The step forme has a more rough appearance to fit its typing as well, but I prefer the voice forme a lot more. And for those who are curious, the step forme is the Meloetta with the red string-ish hair while the voice forme has green string-ish hair with attractive baby blue eyes. :P |
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Doesn't that just make it look so elegant? ~<3 And its cry is so beautiful. x3 |
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Rashiram's wing are kind of bat like, I barely noticed that now that you mention it Tatsu
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When I first saw that pokemon I though how beautiful would it be in a contest and how I didn't want it to be legendary so I could get one early on in the game or something like that. I know it changes types between both forms. I'm excited to get this one =) The pure flying type one... all I gotta say is FINALLY!!!
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I really want to capture a Kyurem it's just so awesome :D! |
Legendaries and Their Stories
So I just skimmed over the first page, and there doesn't appear to be a thread for this... has anyone played the game so far and know what the back stories to the legendaries are yet? You know, how Mewtwo hated all mankind and how Giratina is in the reverse world, etc. I'm actually confused with which of these new pokemon ARE legendaries...
I was just curious. :3 If not, what do you think they should be? Also, sidenote: is it just me, or are pokemon less "cuddly" and more "slightly disturbing" these days? Not in a bad way, but some of them seem pretty creepy for my inner child. |
...well there was actually a thread for this on the second page! XD; Merged, anyway. Make sure you search more than the first page when making threads.~
I don't really know much about the legendary backstories, though I remember hearing something about Kyurem, but I can't quite remember it. I'm pretty sure the backstories would be detailed, though, considering the fact that the storyline is pretty deep apparently. |
I know a bit of the backstory behind the musketeer trio (Cobalon, Terrakion, Virizion and to a lesser extent, Keldeo). They clashed with humans in the past to protect Pokemon habitats from human expansion. But I don't know of the backstory behind the Kami trio (Tornelos, Voltolos and Landlos).
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According to Bulbapedia Kyuremu appeared from an icy meteorite that landed on earth. Isn't that Deoxys but with the alien virus thing replaced by ice?
Anyway, the official art makes me like Kyuremu so much more than the sprite did. |
just gonna come straight out with it and say all the new looking legendaries look ridiculous.....sad what the franchise is doing to the game really, i think it started dying with 3rd gen, killed with 4th and now being WAY over-killed in 5th gen.
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If i remember correctly, Kyurem was said to be the original dragon, it was Reshiram and Zekrom. Then some internal strife occurred, presumably caused by Team Plasma. Then Reshiram and Zekrom split apart from Kyurem and started fighting one another. In the process, Kyurem was weakened. This is why Kyurem looks weak, and "broken", also its stats are lower than the other dragons. Reshiram and Zekrom are also essences of energy, while Kyurem is the absence of energy.
That is what I've heard anyways. Anybody agree or disagree? Also, Genie trio ftw. |
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And yes, it does look broken. One of its wings has been chipped off. |
Oh wow, the Sugimori artwork for Kyurem looks a lot better than the fanart. I like the concept of the wings being broken, because it makes it sound more ancient. I do wish the Sugimori artwork was more blue-er, though. :(
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Wait wait wait...Vast White and Deep Black Pokemon (Reshiram and Zekrom, respectively)? WTF? Exactly what was wrong with White Yang and Black Yin as species descriptors? :cer_pissed: Are the localizers too afraid to reference the concept of yin-yang or something? :cer_cry: A good chunk of the game seems to be based around that!! At this rate, we're gonna get Huge Gray for Kyuremu... >_>
Sigh...at least they got Turboblaze and Teravoltage correct, as well as Zorua and Zoroark retaining their names... I'm a bit worried about the English names of other things this Gen... :surprised: |
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I'm usually pretty indifferent to legends, and this gen. is no different. I must say besides maybe the genies and Genosect, there aren't any legends I really like this generation. Just a bunch of meh ones. I love the non legendary BW Pokemon though so no harm done. :P
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one of the legendaries that really stood out for me were the Musketeer Quad-trio...it's our first quad group of legendaries :)
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I'm pretty sure he was referring to how many of them there were, not how many legs... he said Quad, not Quadripedal.
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The unicorn doesn't really feel like it is apart of them. When I think about their group, I think of just the main three (though mainly Virizon because it's the prettiest and the bulldog I tend to forget about... but the blue thing, oh God no).
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The Unicorn surely is the forth musketeer. It suits the story and everything and it shares their nature/signature moves.
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There are too many again this gen. The /Flying trio is pathetic; you would think they'd perhaps even attempt to make them in a slightly different pose or something but nope, they're identical. Kerudio is adorable, Meloetta is quite cool and Genosekuto is pretty boss, but other than them I'm indifferent.
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They probably would seem more like a quad group if the unicorn had a design similar to the other three. I dunno, they just look different, making them look less like a group. D:
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Just because there are a lot of Pokemon doesn't mean there has to be so many. 5th gen doesn't have that many more Pokemon than 1st gen, and 1st gen makes do with 5. Really all that's needed is a trio, one or two main legends and an event Pokemon, not a whole bunch of random, superfluous ones. |
Well, Genosect is the event, the main legends would be Reshiram/Zekrom and due to them, for a third game, Kyurem is needed. As for the trios, I agree that the genies aren't needed, but the musketeers are fine. Anddd... I can't think of other legendaries besides Meloetta, so if you break it down, the amount of legendaries isn't that bad, imo. :3 Oh and Victini is needed because it's the Celebi/etc of the 5th generation.
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But it's not. They managed to not have specific legendary for two gens, and only introduced it in 3rd gen because it kinda made sense. Then they seem to have thought "herpa derp how can we make more legendz" and it just went downhill from there. |
The only one I could see replacing is the ring leader from the quad group, which is the unicorn. Zekrom/Reshiram are opposites and represent ying/yang. Throwing in the unicorn, which doesn't relate to them would make the game seem less continuous. It's hard to explain really, but in gen 2, it was okay because Ho-Oh/Lugia didn't "complete" each other, so Suicune seemed fine for the third game.
Kyurem as a whole matches Reshiram/Zekrom too, continuing the second grouping of Pokemon, being electric, fire and ice, represented by Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, and others (with the other grouping being water, grass and fire). Plus fire/electric don't really relate to each other as much without ice being in the middle, representing the "ice age" imo. So... that's why I feel Kyurem is necessary. |
An interesting thing to note about the musketeer trio/quartet is that they're the first quadrupedal Fighting Pokemon, apart from Fist Plate Arceus.
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The official artwork for the leprosy genie trio makes them look much more fierce also.
Kyuremu is my favourite legend still. Pity it isn't that usable in battle and its signature move is crap. |
I agree with the majority that the outcome of the genie trio is a disappointing one, however I think they are better than Generation Four's elf trio (namely Azelf, Uxie and Mespirit). Genosect could have done with a tertiary colour as it seems fairly monotonous and at first I found it difficult to differentiate the gun with the actual body. On the topic of Genosect, I think the concept is wonderful.
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The grass fighting and the water fire are my favorite ones, but I melotta (I think it is) is too human-like, I think she would fair better as a trainer.
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The legendaries rock. Except for Keldeo, who i have never liked. There should be more of a backstory to them, though. AND STOP HATIN' THE GENIES
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Melotta's loos pokemon enough for me plus in Platinum they said Humans used to be pokemon... |
Genosect still remains the best legend of Unova, but the two trios are my next faves.
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So you like the genies too along with the dragons :)? I want to get a Genosect myself! It's the king or is it queen...of the bug pokemon :D! |
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If one does Count the Musketters as a Trio than we do have three and would mean that each odd gen add another trio (gen 1 and 2 had 1 only, gen 3 and 4 had 2 while gen 5 (and 6 Maybe) have 3)... |
I like victini a lot. :3 Its cute and cool at the same time, and it must be very powerfull with its fire attacks.
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Some of these legendries are actually on a par with Heartran as the worst legendries in existence. The pure Flying type genie thing basically has 2 pallet swaps that call themselves 'legendries'. Not to mention that they've ruined the comcept of legendry status with 13 new ones. I mean, 48 legendries altogether?
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So I don't think it's a joke, Also each new batch is like that regions mythology, in real life there are 1000+ gods in all myths put together... I like the musketeer trio too I like the blue one and the green one the best :) |
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Gen 3's legendaries had the most story with 6 out 10 having a story. Also the third version tends to give us more back ground story. I want to see the story behind the Muskeeteers... |
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The teer trio was meant to protect and defend Pokemon from human abuse. |
Ehhh, when it comes to B/W, the legends are probably my least favorite Pokemon in the region. D: The only legendaries I really acknowledge are Reshiram, Zekrom, and Victini. They have the only... "understandable" designs to me. Pretty much every other legendary has that really confusing design to the point where I can't even make out their faces! O_o
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Too many legendaries, especially the trios, the more they make, the less ideas they will have...I mean, what else will they have? Legendaries for hearing, taste, smell, touch, sight?
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Anyway, my fav Legend would be either Zekrom or Victini. I went with Zekrom, but Victin! is still awesome. |
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