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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 12th, 2010 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 6220038)
Reshiram and Zekrom: 45

Every other legend present in the game: 3

I like how Reshiram and Zekrom are ridiculously easy to catch in comparison to other legends.

Oh well that makes sense as you have to capture them to
Spoiler:
to battle N who has the opposite one, and then Geechisu plus I heard that if you lose to any of them you have to recapture them...
So yeah...

King Gumball October 12th, 2010 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 6220038)
Reshiram and Zekrom: 45

Every other legend present in the game: 3

I like how Reshiram and Zekrom are ridiculously easy to catch in comparison to other legends.


Oh wow... That is ridiculously easy, regardless if you need to catch them to.............. You know.


o0PinkSquid0o October 12th, 2010 10:21 PM

Ok I am a bit confused... is that 'my little pony' pokemon a legendary... or even real? Its not showing up on the Serebii pokedex page from what I can see :S

did I miss something?

Haza October 12th, 2010 10:47 PM

It's one of the last Pokemon in the Pokemon even on Serebii...

King Gumball October 13th, 2010 1:14 AM

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Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6220552)
Ok I am a bit confused... is that 'my little pony' pokemon a legendary... or even real? Its not showing up on the Serebii pokedex page from what I can see :S

did I miss something?


Look at Veekun.com Tells you everything if it isn't appearing on Serebii.

My little Pony is now my favourite legendary pokemon of Gen. It's simplistic 'non-robotic', old school design, that is appealing, has a perfect colour blend and awesome typing (Grass/Fighting <3) I just love it so much, and it's shiny form is just stunning. http://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/640.png It is so elegant too, and it has the most peculiar shaped head. I just love it.

BleuVII October 13th, 2010 4:24 AM

I think by the "My Little Pony" pokemon, people are talking about Keldeo: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/86/647.png

And yes, it's real.

Porygon Z October 13th, 2010 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6220058)

Oh well that makes sense as you have to capture them to
Spoiler:
to battle N who has the opposite one, and then Geechisu plus I heard that if you lose to any of them you have to recapture them...
So yeah...

True. If you lose, you have to do it all again, like in all Pokèmon games :D

Obelisk October 13th, 2010 11:03 AM

I'm liking most of the new legendaries. The two mascot Pokes Zekrom and Reshiram are sick and I love them, their appearance, animations, and typing are all amazing and I think they are some of the best legendaries. I dislike the genies, I really hate that they are just palette swaps.

Kyurem is pretty awesome as well and I have yet to fully judge what I think of the others.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 13th, 2010 2:16 PM

The funny thing is that the capture rate of last gen's mascots was like 5 while this gen's like 40...
Edit: Yeah I know I explained it but the irony is still there xD.

JP October 13th, 2010 2:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6221420)
The funny thing is that the capture rate of last gen's mascots was like 5 while this gen's like 40...

Well you explained the reason why yourself haha. Plus, it's almost necessary. You don't want to be sitting there for 20 minutes (maybe a bit of an exaggeration :P ) trying to capture this thing just to continue the storyline haha. I know I wouldn't want to. I do agree that it's rather funny to see such a rate on a Legendary though.

o0PinkSquid0o October 13th, 2010 2:57 PM

thanks guys for helping me out haha, I knew I had seen that pony 'Keldeo' somewhere before and then I suddenly couldn't find it again!
Its super cute, probably my fav legendary (it is a legendary right? :P)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 13th, 2010 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6221499)
thanks guys for helping me out haha, I knew I had seen that pony 'Keldeo' somewhere before and then I suddenly couldn't find it again!
Its super cute, probably my fav legendary (it is a legendary right? :P)

yeah it is, it's an event legendary to be exact...

Palcks October 13th, 2010 3:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xoax (Post 6219371)
Seriously,genies look like PALETTE SWAPS like in FINAL FANTASY 1-6 games. It's a shame. I would never see pokemon like that. >_< What posessed them to do that? At least they could give them different poses...
They resemble me a caricature of a certain greek god for me...

And Latios and Latias don't get his kind of hate? I have never seen people complain about those two, and yet these three are really so much different?

That's crap. :c

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 13th, 2010 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Palcks (Post 6221520)
And Latios and Latias don't get his kind of hate? I have never seen people complain about those two, and yet these three are really so much different?

That's crap. :c

Well Latias and Latios were based on Yin and Yang and they do have quite a few differences such as different Poses, Latios is grayer in color for it's neck and head and bigger than latias, he also has a different smile than Latias,and a different symbol but yeah they are virtually the same except one's male and the other is female and they are based on yin and yang so people accept them, the only differences between the three "genies" are the "rings" and the colors and that's all.

JP October 13th, 2010 3:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Palcks (Post 6221520)
And Latios and Latias don't get his kind of hate? I have never seen people complain about those two, and yet these three are really so much different?

That's crap. :c

I think the reason these guys get so much crap is because their sprites and positions are exactly the same. [email protected] have different sizes and their sprites are designed differently from one another, as well as the obvious colors. With the Genies, yes they have different colors and they have differences, but it just pisses people off that they are just the same positioned sprite, split and redesigned three times.

Spikey-Eared Pichu October 13th, 2010 3:21 PM

And you're point is? Latias and Latios were barely different to me when I first got Sapphire. I saw the two and thought one was made for Ruby and the other for Sapphire, but otherwise saw no difference than one's red and one's blue.

Atleast the genie's have distinct differences. Would everyone get off their little powertrip about how they have the same position?

o0PinkSquid0o October 13th, 2010 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6221538)
And you're point is? Latias and Latios were barely different to me when I first got Sapphire. I saw the two and thought one was made for Ruby and the other for Sapphire, but otherwise saw no difference than one's red and one's blue.

Atleast the genie's have distinct differences. Would everyone get off their little powertrip about how they have the same position?

LOL I really doubt people are on a 'power trip' because they say the Genies are the same hahaha you don't really gain much power for thinking that.

They just look stupid and lazy, yeah Latias and latios were similar but at least their poses were different!! thats what people are getting at, no one cares if they look similar, people just care that the dude who created them couldn't be screwed changing their positions a little.

JP October 13th, 2010 3:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6221538)
And you're point is? Latias and Latios were barely different to me when I first got Sapphire. I saw the two and thought one was made for Ruby and the other for Sapphire, but otherwise saw no difference than one's red and one's blue.

Atleast the genie's have distinct differences. Would everyone get off their little powertrip about how they have the same position?

Was that geared towards me? Because my point was within my post, and rather clear. Same position, three times = makes it seem a bit lazy, and naturally a lot of people are going to notice and complain.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 13th, 2010 3:32 PM

I don't really complain about the genies I like them enough with the difference in "rings" but then again I'm not that hard to please...
I would have liked it though if they had made the electric one have it's hands up high as if harnessing lightning or have Zeus like pose...

Spikey-Eared Pichu October 13th, 2010 3:36 PM

...wow...I never actually thought people could be so...nit-picky...

In that case, why don't people get pissy that several Pokemon have the same cries? Charizard and Rhydon do. So do Poliwag and Ditto.

Yet no one seems to give a damn. Also, if I remember correctly, Dragonair and Onix sahre the exact same sprite positioning in HG/SS.

@JP: It was actually aimed Pink Squid, but you ninja'd before I could get my post in.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 13th, 2010 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6221566)
...wow...I never actually thought people could be so...nit-picky...

In that case, why don't people get pissy that several Pokemon have the same cries? Charizard and Rhydon do. So do Poliwag and Ditto.

Yet no one seems to give a damn. Also, if I remember correctly, Dragonair and Onix sahre the exact same sprite positioning in HG/SS.

actually I have complained about that before myself...but that's getting a bit off topic.
One thing I don't like about the genies is the dots that make them look sick.

Spikey-Eared Pichu October 13th, 2010 3:40 PM

The dots, IMO, don't make them seem so much sick as more like feral cats. Cheetahs or Leopards.

JP October 13th, 2010 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6221566)
...wow...I never actually thought people could be so...nit-picky...

In that case, why don't people get pissy that several Pokemon have the same cries? Charizard and Rhydon do. So do Poliwag and Ditto.

Yet no one seems to give a damn. Also, if I remember correctly, Dragonair and Onix sahre the exact same sprite positioning in HG/SS.

@JP: It was actually aimed Pink Squid, but you ninja'd before I could get my post in.

Oh okay. XD I don't think people care so much about the cries because honestly, their cries aren't that important. Might just be me, but I never thought they were that important to the development of the games. As for Dragonair and Onix, they're two entirely separate Pokemon, hence why people probably don't complain about that. :P

I agree with Mag about the Genies and their dots. They're really what bother me about their designs.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 13th, 2010 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6221576)
The dots, IMO, don't make them seem so much sick as more like feral cats. Cheetahs or Leopards.

Well the one with the purple one's do well at least for me they do, if they were cats I would have been fine with the spots but they are genies with spots.

Obelisk October 13th, 2010 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Palcks (Post 6221520)
And Latios and Latias don't get his kind of hate? I have never seen people complain about those two, and yet these three are really so much different?

That's crap. :c

Actually thats true, I never really thought of that XD. I guess because they are different genders and the poses are different but yeah essentially Latios and Latias are essentially the same.

If the Genies had different poses they would be great I mean the designs are really cool as is only thing is the poses. :\

o0PinkSquid0o October 13th, 2010 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6221566)
...wow...I never actually thought people could be so...nit-picky...

In that case, why don't people get pissy that several Pokemon have the same cries? Charizard and Rhydon do. So do Poliwag and Ditto.

Yet no one seems to give a damn. Also, if I remember correctly, Dragonair and Onix sahre the exact same sprite positioning in HG/SS.

@JP: It was actually aimed Pink Squid, but you ninja'd before I could get my post in.

You make absolutely no sense! You're pretty much saying we should be hating on Latias and Latios because they look the same... .just like twins in real life look the same??? Should we hate real life twins because they look similar?
They're posed differently, their colours are different, they're just 'twin' pokemon.

People do not like the way the 3 genies are posed exactly the same, thats people's issues with them, not that their forms look the same, thats fine, I would like it if they were triplet pokemon, just don't use the same sprite and colour it different, you're the one getting all up tight about it, and nit-picking on other people's opinions wow, double standards much??

Livewire October 13th, 2010 5:55 PM

.....And let's get back on topic.

Seeing as we still don't have Sugumori art for all the legends, I'm still apprehensive about them. Aside from Reshram and Zekrom, the only legend I really like atm is Genosect. The sprites are pretty vague, and it doesn't help that they all have complex designs. That being said, my opinion on them will in all likelihood improve once I get a clearer picture of them.

I will always refer to Kerudio as My little Pony, though. xDDDDD

Obelisk October 13th, 2010 6:37 PM

Genosect's design is pretty awesome. It has Transformers written all over it XD

Looks more like a decepticon of course lol.

Porygon Z October 14th, 2010 10:15 AM

A little speculation.

Who will be the next Event Pokèmon released?

Kerudio, Meloetta or Genosekuto?

As me, I hope it will be Genosekuto.

I love that guy, and I want his Cassettes :D

Or Kerudio. I hate Meloetta :D

Jaiyke October 14th, 2010 11:15 AM

the only legendaries i like are Zekrom Reshiram and the Blue and Green Musketeer Goats xD
all the others can suck a nut v.v

JP October 14th, 2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Porygon Z (Post 6222656)
A little speculation.

Who will be the next Event Pokèmon released?

Kerudio, Meloetta or Genosekuto?

As me, I hope it will be Genosekuto.

I love that guy, and I want his Cassettes :D

Or Kerudio. I hate Meloetta :D

I'd say most likely Kerudio or Meloetta. Genosect will probably be the last one. :P Having to pick between Kerudio and Meloetta though, I'd say it'll probably be Kerudio so that the Three/Four Musketeer group is complete.

I'm not a big fan of Meloetta's regular forme, but the red and black one is really cool looking.

PlatinumDude November 11th, 2010 3:55 AM

Would it be okay if I bumped this...?

Anyway, I'll give my thoughts on the legendary musketeers (Cobalon, Terrakion, Virizion, Keldeo) in competitive terms. Aesthetically, I was surprised when I learned that they were quadrupedal Fighting types. It took me a while to figure out how they were able to use their signature Sacred Sword without having to stand on 2 legs (I know now that they perform the move using their horns).

Cobalon: It's got the same typing as Lucario, but its offenses are weaker. It can take physical hits better than Lucario can, but its Special Defense is a bit exposed, but it can be fixed with Calm Mind.

Terrakion: The only musketeer to have a unique type combination among the four (Cobalon has Lucario's typing, Virizion has Breloom's typing and Keldeo has Poliwrath's typing). Rock/Fighting provides good coverage. Looking at Terrakion's stats and movepool, it does one thing very well: physical sweeping. It can rip holes through most opponents, and can take hits well (though it isn't as bulky as Cobalon or Virizion in the physical and special departments, respectively).

Virizion: Like Breloom, Virizion is Grass/Fighting, giving it a natural resistance to the QuakeEdge combination. Its Defense is low, unfortunately, and Grass/Fighting is resisted by Flying types (who are taken care of by Stone Edge). What I do like about it, though, is its high Special Defense, which is the highest among Grass and Fighting types; that can be amplified further by Calm Mind, but its low Defense is still a problem.

Keldeo: When I first saw it, I thought it looked like some sort of donkey/pony. After seeing it in battle, I developed a newfound respect for it. That's because it learns Sword of Mystery, which works in the same way as Psycho Shock. Its Attack and Special Attack are the reverse of Terrakion's. At a glance, Heart of Justice seems like a waste on Keldeo due to its 72 Attack. But with Swords Dance, that stat can be pushed further.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 11th, 2010 12:22 PM

The four musketeers seem like interesting pokemon to train, they all have awesome typing and one great stat (Defense, Attack, Special Attack and I'm not sure on keldo's biggest stat...)

PlatinumDude November 11th, 2010 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6282153)
The four musketeers seem like interesting pokemon to train, they all have awesome typing and one great stat (Defense, Attack, Special Attack and I'm not sure on keldo's biggest stat...)

Cobalon has Defense as its highest stat. Terrakion's highest stat is Attack; Virizion for Special Defense and Keldeo for Special Attack.

Devil Flamingo November 11th, 2010 7:30 PM

The only relevant legends are Terakion (non-uber) and Reshiram (uber). Everything else can go die in a fire as far as I'm concerned, XD, especially Kyurem. Zekrom is cool, but idc about it, and the musketeers are okay I guess, but Terakion is the only one I truly like. As for the genies... not my cup of tea, but I don't really hate them either. The Regis were far worse honestly. :>

Haza November 11th, 2010 9:08 PM

Kyurem has to be my favorite of the Dragon Trio... It seems vicious.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 12th, 2010 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6282827)
Kyurem has to be my favorite of the Dragon Trio... It seems vicious.

It's mine too, but for it's Dragon/Ice and having Kyu in it's name :)
I'm nicknaming mine Kyo after a character in a story of mine who just so happens to be Dragon/ Ice (well he's also part grass but yeah...)

Yuii November 13th, 2010 7:21 PM

Wow, seems like a lot of legendaries. o_o I'm cool with it, the more the better! :D

vava18 November 14th, 2010 2:39 AM

this legendary pokemon are kinda cool, and have one pure flying is the best

PlatinumDude November 14th, 2010 5:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vava18 (Post 6287487)
this legendary pokemon are kinda cool, and have one pure flying is the best

Tornelos? True, I do like it because it's the first ever pure Flying type, but its color scheme is ugly in my eyes. Competitively, it's the least used because of its shallow offensive movepool.

Ho-Oh November 14th, 2010 5:10 AM

I agree, I hate the design of it, I thought it'd look angelic and instead we get... that.

But meh, it's a good start for the future at least. XD

Zelda November 19th, 2010 2:48 PM

Just a quick note since the other thread discussing Victini, Zekrom and Reshiram died, we'll just discuss all of the legendaries for B/W here instead. This makes it a bit better anyway; I saw no reason for one with just those three legendaries and the rest here. n_n

Aside from that, I'm pretty satisfied with the legendaries. Meloetta would be one of my favorites, I just love its lady-like look. Being a psychic type, I'd say it has the calm/careful appearance fit for it. Also, you can tell these games want you to go far in levels with these Pokémon as Meloetta learns Perish Song at LV 85. o-o; As for Meloetta's other forme (the Step Forme), I find it have a more old/grandma style. XD; I suppose that just fits the fighting type all the more though. The step forme has a more rough appearance to fit its typing as well, but I prefer the voice forme a lot more. And for those who are curious, the step forme is the Meloetta with the red string-ish hair while the voice forme has green string-ish hair with attractive baby blue eyes. :P


ManhattanTheStarr November 19th, 2010 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 6296999)
Just a quick note since the other thread discussing Victini, Zekrom and Reshiram died, we'll just discuss all of the legendaries for B/W here instead. This makes it a bit better anyway; I saw no reason for one with just those three legendaries and the rest here. n_n

Aside from that, I'm pretty satisfied with the legendaries. Meloetta would be one of my favorites, I just love its lady-like look. Being a psychic type, I'd say it has the calm/careful appearance fit for it. Also, you can tell these games want you to go far in levels with these Pokémon as Meloetta learns Perish Song at LV 85. o-o; As for Meloetta's other forme (the Step Forme), I find it have a more old/grandma style. XD; I suppose that just fits the fighting type all the more though. The step forme has a more rough appearance to fit its typing as well, but I prefer the voice forme a lot more. And for those who are curious, the step forme is the Meloetta with the red string-ish hair while the voice forme has green string-ish hair with attractive baby blue eyes. :P


Y'know, I really didn't like this legendary at first... but then I saw this:



Doesn't that just make it look so elegant? ~<3
And its cry is so beautiful. x3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 19th, 2010 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6287662)
I agree, I hate the design of it, I thought it'd look angelic and instead we get... that.

But meh, it's a good start for the future at least. XD

I also thought it was going to be angelic like but I like it's design anyways :)

PaxAmericana November 19th, 2010 8:26 PM

This legendary looks awesome!

Spoiler:

Reshiram

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ November 20th, 2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Reshiram Man (Post 6297563)
This legendary looks awesome!

Spoiler:

Reshiram

I just find that Pokemon weird looking because it has bat arms (in my opinion) the only good thing about it is that its all white and has nice blue eyes, I would love to have that as a doll though just because of its eyes


:t354:TG

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 20th, 2010 12:46 PM

Rashiram's wing are kind of bat like, I barely noticed that now that you mention it Tatsu

Jerme November 20th, 2010 5:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr (Post 6297043)


Y'know, I really didn't like this legendary at first... but then I saw this:



Doesn't that just make it look so elegant? ~<3
And its cry is so beautiful. x3

too humanoid....beware of furries

Mirimaju November 20th, 2010 6:54 PM

When I first saw that pokemon I though how beautiful would it be in a contest and how I didn't want it to be legendary so I could get one early on in the game or something like that. I know it changes types between both forms. I'm excited to get this one =) The pure flying type one... all I gotta say is FINALLY!!!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 20th, 2010 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirimaju (Post 6299304)
When I first saw that pokemon I though how beautiful would it be in a contest and how I didn't want it to be legendary so I could get one early on in the game or something like that. I know it changes types between both forms. I'm excited to get this one =) The pure flying type one... all I gotta say is FINALLY!!!

Yeah it took five generations for them to make a pure type pokemon though this does give me hope that we might have a flying eeveelution next generation :)...
I really want to capture a Kyurem it's just so awesome :D!

Zena70 December 9th, 2010 12:14 AM

Legendaries and Their Stories
 
So I just skimmed over the first page, and there doesn't appear to be a thread for this... has anyone played the game so far and know what the back stories to the legendaries are yet? You know, how Mewtwo hated all mankind and how Giratina is in the reverse world, etc. I'm actually confused with which of these new pokemon ARE legendaries...

I was just curious. :3 If not, what do you think they should be?

Also, sidenote: is it just me, or are pokemon less "cuddly" and more "slightly disturbing" these days? Not in a bad way, but some of them seem pretty creepy for my inner child.

Ho-Oh December 9th, 2010 12:19 AM

...well there was actually a thread for this on the second page! XD; Merged, anyway. Make sure you search more than the first page when making threads.~

I don't really know much about the legendary backstories, though I remember hearing something about Kyurem, but I can't quite remember it. I'm pretty sure the backstories would be detailed, though, considering the fact that the storyline is pretty deep apparently.

PlatinumDude December 9th, 2010 12:46 AM

I know a bit of the backstory behind the musketeer trio (Cobalon, Terrakion, Virizion and to a lesser extent, Keldeo). They clashed with humans in the past to protect Pokemon habitats from human expansion. But I don't know of the backstory behind the Kami trio (Tornelos, Voltolos and Landlos).

StratusJm December 9th, 2010 9:40 AM

According to Bulbapedia Kyuremu appeared from an icy meteorite that landed on earth. Isn't that Deoxys but with the alien virus thing replaced by ice?

Anyway, the official art makes me like Kyuremu so much more than the sprite did.

I-shadez December 9th, 2010 11:10 AM

just gonna come straight out with it and say all the new looking legendaries look ridiculous.....sad what the franchise is doing to the game really, i think it started dying with 3rd gen, killed with 4th and now being WAY over-killed in 5th gen.

they are my thoughts on the legendaries anyways

dragon0fangz December 9th, 2010 6:16 PM

If i remember correctly, Kyurem was said to be the original dragon, it was Reshiram and Zekrom. Then some internal strife occurred, presumably caused by Team Plasma. Then Reshiram and Zekrom split apart from Kyurem and started fighting one another. In the process, Kyurem was weakened. This is why Kyurem looks weak, and "broken", also its stats are lower than the other dragons. Reshiram and Zekrom are also essences of energy, while Kyurem is the absence of energy.

That is what I've heard anyways. Anybody agree or disagree?

Also, Genie trio ftw.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 9th, 2010 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon0fangz (Post 6333364)
If i remember correctly, Kyurem was said to be the original dragon, it was Reshiram and Zekrom. Then some internal strife occurred, presumably caused by Team Plasma. Then Reshiram and Zekrom split apart from Kyurem and started fighting one another. In the process, Kyurem was weakened. This is why Kyurem looks weak, and "broken", also its stats are lower than the other dragons. Reshiram and Zekrom are also essences of energy, while Kyurem is the absence of energy.

That is what I've heard anyways. Anybody agree or disagree?

Also, Genie trio ftw.

This could be true, Kyurem is possibly was the "core" of the original dragon (cold fusion core) then the other two broke off from it...it seems possible...
Also the fact that the three dragons were once one remind me of how the legendary birds were fused in Pokemon special...ironically they had Ice,Fire and Electric too...

Jerme December 9th, 2010 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6332761)
According to Bulbapedia Kyuremu appeared from an icy meteorite that landed on earth. Isn't that Deoxys but with the alien virus thing replaced by ice?

Anyway, the official art makes me like Kyuremu so much more than the sprite did.

where is the official art at btw while searching i came across this which would look so much better than the current one imo



and the idea that the 2 broke off sounds cool

PlatinumDude December 10th, 2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 6333687)
where is the official art at btw while searching i came across this which would look so much better than the current one imo



and the idea that the 2 broke off sounds cool

Here's Kyurem's Sugimori artwork:

And yes, it does look broken. One of its wings has been chipped off.

Ho-Oh December 10th, 2010 12:27 AM

Oh wow, the Sugimori artwork for Kyurem looks a lot better than the fanart. I like the concept of the wings being broken, because it makes it sound more ancient. I do wish the Sugimori artwork was more blue-er, though. :(

King Gumball December 10th, 2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6333837)
Oh wow, the Sugimori artwork for Kyurem looks a lot better than the fanart. I like the concept of the wings being broken, because it makes it sound more ancient. I do wish the Sugimori artwork was more blue-er, though. :(

It is okay, I like its pose, but I agree it needs more blue. There is too much dark grey/brown for my liking.

fenyx4 December 10th, 2010 1:25 PM

Wait wait wait...Vast White and Deep Black Pokemon (Reshiram and Zekrom, respectively)? WTF? Exactly what was wrong with White Yang and Black Yin as species descriptors? :cer_pissed: Are the localizers too afraid to reference the concept of yin-yang or something? :cer_cry: A good chunk of the game seems to be based around that!! At this rate, we're gonna get Huge Gray for Kyuremu... >_>

Sigh...at least they got Turboblaze and Teravoltage correct, as well as Zorua and Zoroark retaining their names... I'm a bit worried about the English names of other things this Gen... :surprised:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 10th, 2010 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6333839)


It is okay, I like its pose, but I agree it needs more blue. There is too much dark grey/brown for my liking.

Well it is expected to be the Mascot of Grey...so it needs some Grey in it...
Though it's sprite does look more blue...

Waffle-San December 10th, 2010 5:03 PM

I'm usually pretty indifferent to legends, and this gen. is no different. I must say besides maybe the genies and Genosect, there aren't any legends I really like this generation. Just a bunch of meh ones. I love the non legendary BW Pokemon though so no harm done. :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 10th, 2010 10:21 PM

one of the legendaries that really stood out for me were the Musketeer Quad-trio...it's our first quad group of legendaries :)

Waffle-San December 10th, 2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6334994)
one of the legendaries that really stood out for me were the Musketeer Quad-trio...it's our first quad group of legendaries :)

Suicune, Entei and Raikou say a quadripedal Hi!

Haza December 11th, 2010 1:29 AM

I'm pretty sure he was referring to how many of them there were, not how many legs... he said Quad, not Quadripedal.

Waffle-San December 11th, 2010 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6335138)
I'm pretty sure he was referring to how many of them there were, not how many legs... he aid Quad, not Quadripedal.

Oh! I see, thanks for clearing that up. I tend to forget that Kerudio, being an event and all, is the fourth member. Sorry MRAS.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 1:34 AM

The unicorn doesn't really feel like it is apart of them. When I think about their group, I think of just the main three (though mainly Virizon because it's the prettiest and the bulldog I tend to forget about... but the blue thing, oh God no).

Haza December 11th, 2010 1:37 AM

The Unicorn surely is the forth musketeer. It suits the story and everything and it shares their nature/signature moves.

otaku-dono December 11th, 2010 1:39 AM

There are too many again this gen. The /Flying trio is pathetic; you would think they'd perhaps even attempt to make them in a slightly different pose or something but nope, they're identical. Kerudio is adorable, Meloetta is quite cool and Genosekuto is pretty boss, but other than them I'm indifferent.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 1:41 AM

They probably would seem more like a quad group if the unicorn had a design similar to the other three. I dunno, they just look different, making them look less like a group. D:

And at the above poster: Well, there is the fact that there are more new Pokemon than in any other generation, suggesting why the legendaries are so high.

otaku-dono December 11th, 2010 1:44 AM

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Well, there is the fact that there are more new Pokemon than in any other generation, suggesting why the legendaries are so high.

Just because there are a lot of Pokemon doesn't mean there has to be so many. 5th gen doesn't have that many more Pokemon than 1st gen, and 1st gen makes do with 5. Really all that's needed is a trio, one or two main legends and an event Pokemon, not a whole bunch of random, superfluous ones.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 1:55 AM

Well, Genosect is the event, the main legends would be Reshiram/Zekrom and due to them, for a third game, Kyurem is needed. As for the trios, I agree that the genies aren't needed, but the musketeers are fine. Anddd... I can't think of other legendaries besides Meloetta, so if you break it down, the amount of legendaries isn't that bad, imo. :3 Oh and Victini is needed because it's the Celebi/etc of the 5th generation.

otaku-dono December 11th, 2010 2:00 AM

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for a third game, Kyurem is needed.

But it's not. They managed to not have specific legendary for two gens, and only introduced it in 3rd gen because it kinda made sense. Then they seem to have thought "herpa derp how can we make more legendz" and it just went downhill from there.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 2:22 AM

The only one I could see replacing is the ring leader from the quad group, which is the unicorn. Zekrom/Reshiram are opposites and represent ying/yang. Throwing in the unicorn, which doesn't relate to them would make the game seem less continuous. It's hard to explain really, but in gen 2, it was okay because Ho-Oh/Lugia didn't "complete" each other, so Suicune seemed fine for the third game.

Kyurem as a whole matches Reshiram/Zekrom too, continuing the second grouping of Pokemon, being electric, fire and ice, represented by Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, and others (with the other grouping being water, grass and fire). Plus fire/electric don't really relate to each other as much without ice being in the middle, representing the "ice age" imo. So... that's why I feel Kyurem is necessary.

PlatinumDude December 11th, 2010 4:08 AM

An interesting thing to note about the musketeer trio/quartet is that they're the first quadrupedal Fighting Pokemon, apart from Fist Plate Arceus.

Haza December 11th, 2010 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by otaku-dono (Post 6335150)
There are too many again this gen. The /Flying trio is pathetic; you would think they'd perhaps even attempt to make them in a slightly different pose or something but nope, they're identical. Kerudio is adorable, Meloetta is quite cool and Genosekuto is pretty boss, but other than them I'm indifferent.

I like the genies. Their design are fun and I've grown to like their similarities.

StratusJm December 11th, 2010 6:06 AM

The official artwork for the leprosy genie trio makes them look much more fierce also.

Kyuremu is my favourite legend still.
Pity it isn't that usable in battle and its signature move is crap.

Dystopia December 11th, 2010 6:20 AM

I agree with the majority that the outcome of the genie trio is a disappointing one, however I think they are better than Generation Four's elf trio (namely Azelf, Uxie and Mespirit). Genosect could have done with a tertiary colour as it seems fairly monotonous and at first I found it difficult to differentiate the gun with the actual body. On the topic of Genosect, I think the concept is wonderful.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 11th, 2010 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6335153)
They probably would seem more like a quad group if the unicorn had a design similar to the other three. I dunno, they just look different, making them look less like a group. D:

And at the above poster: Well, there is the fact that there are more new Pokemon than in any other generation, suggesting why the legendaries are so high.

Well it looks very different because it's based on the youngest Musketeer, thus it looks like a small pony :)
Also gen 4 still had more legendary pokemon than this gen.

-ty- December 12th, 2010 12:26 AM

The grass fighting and the water fire are my favorite ones, but I melotta (I think it is) is too human-like, I think she would fair better as a trainer.

dragon0fangz December 13th, 2010 4:33 PM

The legendaries rock. Except for Keldeo, who i have never liked. There should be more of a backstory to them, though. AND STOP HATIN' THE GENIES

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 13th, 2010 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -ty- (Post 6337216)
The grass fighting and the water fire are my favorite ones, but I melotta (I think it is) is too human-like, I think she would fair better as a trainer.

I don't think there is a Water/Fire legendary :surprised:...
Melotta's loos pokemon enough for me plus in Platinum they said Humans used to be pokemon...

Haza December 19th, 2010 3:22 PM

Genosect still remains the best legend of Unova, but the two trios are my next faves.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 19th, 2010 5:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6350560)
Genosect still remains the best legend of Unova, but the two trios are my next faves.

Lol I was about to ask which one as we have 3 but one of them is a quad :P
So you like the genies too along with the dragons :)?
I want to get a Genosect myself! It's the king or is it queen...of the bug pokemon :D!

King Gumball December 19th, 2010 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6350695)

Lol I was about to ask which one as we have 3 but one of them is a quad :P
So you like the genies too along with the dragons :)?
I want to get a Genosect myself! It's the king or is it queen...of the bug pokemon :D!

I keep thinking we have three trios in Unova too. I keep forgetting poor Kerudio!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 19th, 2010 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6350973)


I keep thinking we have three trios in Unova too. I keep forgetting poor Kerudio!

Well it is an event Pokemon, they tend to be forgotten (cough Zoroark and Zorua) until they are given away.
If one does Count the Musketters as a Trio than we do have three and would mean that each odd gen add another trio (gen 1 and 2 had 1 only, gen 3 and 4 had 2 while gen 5 (and 6 Maybe) have 3)...

DREAMZ December 27th, 2010 7:23 AM

I like victini a lot. :3 Its cute and cool at the same time, and it must be very powerfull with its fire attacks.

Kanto_Johto December 27th, 2010 9:21 AM

Some of these legendries are actually on a par with Heartran as the worst legendries in existence. The pure Flying type genie thing basically has 2 pallet swaps that call themselves 'legendries'. Not to mention that they've ruined the comcept of legendry status with 13 new ones. I mean, 48 legendries altogether?

What a joke. Although I do like the Musketeer trio quite a lot.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 27th, 2010 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6363171)
Some of these legendries are actually on a par with Heartran as the worst legendries in existence. The pure Flying type genie thing basically has 2 pallet swaps that call themselves 'legendries'. Not to mention that they've ruined the comcept of legendry status with 13 new ones. I mean, 48 legendries altogether?

What a joke. Although I do like the Musketeer trio quite a lot.

Well legendaries means hard to find or rare and one of a kind which they still all plus in most real world myth there were tons of legendary gods and goddess and they were still legendary despite there being 200+ of them...
So I don't think it's a joke, Also each new batch is like that regions mythology, in real life there are 1000+ gods in all myths put together...
I like the musketeer trio too I like the blue one and the green one the best :)

The Red Chain December 27th, 2010 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6363171)
Some of these legendries are actually on a par with Heartran as the worst legendries in existence. The pure Flying type genie thing basically has 2 pallet swaps that call themselves 'legendries'. Not to mention that they've ruined the comcept of legendry status with 13 new ones. I mean, 48 legendries altogether?
What a joke. Although I do like the Musketeer trio quite a lot.


I do have to agree with you there.
Though I actually don't mind the legendaries of this gen, they really don't feel all that legendary to me. They have the label, but there's no sense of power besides stats.
They are doing more and more legendaries each Gen, and frankly, I'm not liking it. I was basically begging in my mind that there would be less legendaries this gen, only to be disappointed once more.
They're all growing on me now.. but not in the -legendary- way. They're just slightly more powerful than normal Pokemon, with no real "legend" to keep their status.. just like Heatran. =/

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Well legendaries means hard to find or rare and one of a kind

Gotta disagree. Legendary to me means that the person/Pokemon/whatever in question has a legend behind them that's given them such a mighty status.
Like how Mewtwo is a clone of Mew, the living DNA of all the other Pokemon in the world. Or how Ho-Oh revived the three legendary dogs, for whatever they used to be, back to life with a new form and new powers.
Things like that. The power is a factor, the rarity can also be, but the real status to me is their story.


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 27th, 2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6364115)

I do have to agree with you there.
Though I actually don't mind the legendaries of this gen, they really don't feel all that legendary to me. They have the label, but there's no sense of power besides stats.
They are doing more and more legendaries each Gen, and frankly, I'm not liking it. I was basically begging in my mind that there would be less legendaries this gen, only to be disappointed once more.
They're all growing on me now.. but not in the -legendary- way. They're just slightly more powerful than normal Pokemon, with no real "legend" to keep their status.. just like Heatran. =/


Gotta disagree. Legendary to me means that the person/Pokemon/whatever in question has a legend behind them that's given them such a mighty status.
Like how Mewtwo is a clone of Mew, the living DNA of all the other Pokemon in the world. Or how Ho-Oh revived the three legendary dogs, for whatever they used to be, back to life with a new form and new powers.
Things like that. The power is a factor, the rarity can also be, but the real status to me is their story.


Mewtwo along with the other legends of gen 1 had little to no story...
Gen 3's legendaries had the most story with 6 out 10 having a story.
Also the third version tends to give us more back ground story.
I want to see the story behind the Muskeeteers...

The Red Chain December 27th, 2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6364156)

Mewtwo along with the other legends of gen 1 had little to no story...
Gen 3's legendaries had the most story with 6 out 10 having a story.

O_o; I guess you're forgetting the first Pokemon movie's entire plot, or how there were journals thrown about in that one building on Cinnabar Island talking about Mew and Mewtwo in RGBY. ]:

I think Gen 4's legendaries had the most story, the main ones I'm thinking of being the Dragon trio, Lake trio and Arceus.

Yeah, I'm curious about the Musketeer trio... I mean what on earth are they meant to do anyway I wonder..


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 27th, 2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6364164)

O_o; I guess you're forgetting the first Pokemon movie's entire plot, or how there were journals thrown about in that one building on Cinnabar Island talking about Mew and Mewtwo in RGBY. ]:

I think Gen 4's legendaries had the most story, the main ones I'm thinking of being the Dragon trio, Lake trio and Arceus.

Yeah, I'm curious about the Musketeer trio... I mean what on earth are they meant to do anyway I wonder..


Oh well I wasn't contining the movies...
The teer trio was meant to protect and defend Pokemon from human abuse.

ManhattanTheStarr December 27th, 2010 11:21 PM

Ehhh, when it comes to B/W, the legends are probably my least favorite Pokemon in the region. D: The only legendaries I really acknowledge are Reshiram, Zekrom, and Victini. They have the only... "understandable" designs to me. Pretty much every other legendary has that really confusing design to the point where I can't even make out their faces! O_o

Kanto_Johto December 28th, 2010 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6364156)
Mewtwo along with the other legends of gen 1 had little to no story...
Gen 3's legendaries had the most story with 6 out 10 having a story.
Also the third version tends to give us more back ground story.
I want to see the story behind the Muskeeteers...

Mewtwo/Mew had that Science Lab story in the Cinnabar Island Mansion.

The Legendary birds were given a back story by Gen II.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 28th, 2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr (Post 6364180)
Ehhh, when it comes to B/W, the legends are probably my least favorite Pokemon in the region. D: The only legendaries I really acknowledge are Reshiram, Zekrom, and Victini. They have the only... "understandable" designs to me. Pretty much every other legendary has that really confusing design to the point where I can't even make out their faces! O_o

I can see all their faces...except for the elder musketeer...

Otherworld9) December 28th, 2010 7:17 PM

True thing
 
Too many legendaries, especially the trios, the more they make, the less ideas they will have...I mean, what else will they have? Legendaries for hearing, taste, smell, touch, sight?

Air Pichu December 28th, 2010 9:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Otherworld9) (Post 6365751)
Too many legendaries, especially the trios, the more they make, the less ideas they will have...I mean, what else will they have? Legendaries for hearing, taste, smell, touch, sight?

That'd actually be cool to see haha.

Anyway, my fav Legend would be either Zekrom or Victini. I went with Zekrom, but Victin! is still awesome.


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