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Zena70 December 9th, 2010 12:14 AM

Legendaries and Their Stories
 
So I just skimmed over the first page, and there doesn't appear to be a thread for this... has anyone played the game so far and know what the back stories to the legendaries are yet? You know, how Mewtwo hated all mankind and how Giratina is in the reverse world, etc. I'm actually confused with which of these new pokemon ARE legendaries...

I was just curious. :3 If not, what do you think they should be?

Also, sidenote: is it just me, or are pokemon less "cuddly" and more "slightly disturbing" these days? Not in a bad way, but some of them seem pretty creepy for my inner child.

Ho-Oh December 9th, 2010 12:19 AM

...well there was actually a thread for this on the second page! XD; Merged, anyway. Make sure you search more than the first page when making threads.~

I don't really know much about the legendary backstories, though I remember hearing something about Kyurem, but I can't quite remember it. I'm pretty sure the backstories would be detailed, though, considering the fact that the storyline is pretty deep apparently.

PlatinumDude December 9th, 2010 12:46 AM

I know a bit of the backstory behind the musketeer trio (Cobalon, Terrakion, Virizion and to a lesser extent, Keldeo). They clashed with humans in the past to protect Pokemon habitats from human expansion. But I don't know of the backstory behind the Kami trio (Tornelos, Voltolos and Landlos).

StratusJm December 9th, 2010 9:40 AM

According to Bulbapedia Kyuremu appeared from an icy meteorite that landed on earth. Isn't that Deoxys but with the alien virus thing replaced by ice?

Anyway, the official art makes me like Kyuremu so much more than the sprite did.

I-shadez December 9th, 2010 11:10 AM

just gonna come straight out with it and say all the new looking legendaries look ridiculous.....sad what the franchise is doing to the game really, i think it started dying with 3rd gen, killed with 4th and now being WAY over-killed in 5th gen.

they are my thoughts on the legendaries anyways

dragon0fangz December 9th, 2010 6:16 PM

If i remember correctly, Kyurem was said to be the original dragon, it was Reshiram and Zekrom. Then some internal strife occurred, presumably caused by Team Plasma. Then Reshiram and Zekrom split apart from Kyurem and started fighting one another. In the process, Kyurem was weakened. This is why Kyurem looks weak, and "broken", also its stats are lower than the other dragons. Reshiram and Zekrom are also essences of energy, while Kyurem is the absence of energy.

That is what I've heard anyways. Anybody agree or disagree?

Also, Genie trio ftw.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 9th, 2010 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon0fangz (Post 6333364)
If i remember correctly, Kyurem was said to be the original dragon, it was Reshiram and Zekrom. Then some internal strife occurred, presumably caused by Team Plasma. Then Reshiram and Zekrom split apart from Kyurem and started fighting one another. In the process, Kyurem was weakened. This is why Kyurem looks weak, and "broken", also its stats are lower than the other dragons. Reshiram and Zekrom are also essences of energy, while Kyurem is the absence of energy.

That is what I've heard anyways. Anybody agree or disagree?

Also, Genie trio ftw.

This could be true, Kyurem is possibly was the "core" of the original dragon (cold fusion core) then the other two broke off from it...it seems possible...
Also the fact that the three dragons were once one remind me of how the legendary birds were fused in Pokemon special...ironically they had Ice,Fire and Electric too...

Jerme December 9th, 2010 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6332761)
According to Bulbapedia Kyuremu appeared from an icy meteorite that landed on earth. Isn't that Deoxys but with the alien virus thing replaced by ice?

Anyway, the official art makes me like Kyuremu so much more than the sprite did.

where is the official art at btw while searching i came across this which would look so much better than the current one imo



and the idea that the 2 broke off sounds cool

PlatinumDude December 10th, 2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 6333687)
where is the official art at btw while searching i came across this which would look so much better than the current one imo



and the idea that the 2 broke off sounds cool

Here's Kyurem's Sugimori artwork:

And yes, it does look broken. One of its wings has been chipped off.

Ho-Oh December 10th, 2010 12:27 AM

Oh wow, the Sugimori artwork for Kyurem looks a lot better than the fanart. I like the concept of the wings being broken, because it makes it sound more ancient. I do wish the Sugimori artwork was more blue-er, though. :(

King Gumball December 10th, 2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6333837)
Oh wow, the Sugimori artwork for Kyurem looks a lot better than the fanart. I like the concept of the wings being broken, because it makes it sound more ancient. I do wish the Sugimori artwork was more blue-er, though. :(

It is okay, I like its pose, but I agree it needs more blue. There is too much dark grey/brown for my liking.

fenyx4 December 10th, 2010 1:25 PM

Wait wait wait...Vast White and Deep Black Pokemon (Reshiram and Zekrom, respectively)? WTF? Exactly what was wrong with White Yang and Black Yin as species descriptors? :cer_pissed: Are the localizers too afraid to reference the concept of yin-yang or something? :cer_cry: A good chunk of the game seems to be based around that!! At this rate, we're gonna get Huge Gray for Kyuremu... >_>

Sigh...at least they got Turboblaze and Teravoltage correct, as well as Zorua and Zoroark retaining their names... I'm a bit worried about the English names of other things this Gen... :surprised:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 10th, 2010 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6333839)


It is okay, I like its pose, but I agree it needs more blue. There is too much dark grey/brown for my liking.

Well it is expected to be the Mascot of Grey...so it needs some Grey in it...
Though it's sprite does look more blue...

Waffle-San December 10th, 2010 5:03 PM

I'm usually pretty indifferent to legends, and this gen. is no different. I must say besides maybe the genies and Genosect, there aren't any legends I really like this generation. Just a bunch of meh ones. I love the non legendary BW Pokemon though so no harm done. :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 10th, 2010 10:21 PM

one of the legendaries that really stood out for me were the Musketeer Quad-trio...it's our first quad group of legendaries :)

Waffle-San December 10th, 2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6334994)
one of the legendaries that really stood out for me were the Musketeer Quad-trio...it's our first quad group of legendaries :)

Suicune, Entei and Raikou say a quadripedal Hi!

Haza December 11th, 2010 1:29 AM

I'm pretty sure he was referring to how many of them there were, not how many legs... he said Quad, not Quadripedal.

Waffle-San December 11th, 2010 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6335138)
I'm pretty sure he was referring to how many of them there were, not how many legs... he aid Quad, not Quadripedal.

Oh! I see, thanks for clearing that up. I tend to forget that Kerudio, being an event and all, is the fourth member. Sorry MRAS.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 1:34 AM

The unicorn doesn't really feel like it is apart of them. When I think about their group, I think of just the main three (though mainly Virizon because it's the prettiest and the bulldog I tend to forget about... but the blue thing, oh God no).

Haza December 11th, 2010 1:37 AM

The Unicorn surely is the forth musketeer. It suits the story and everything and it shares their nature/signature moves.

otaku-dono December 11th, 2010 1:39 AM

There are too many again this gen. The /Flying trio is pathetic; you would think they'd perhaps even attempt to make them in a slightly different pose or something but nope, they're identical. Kerudio is adorable, Meloetta is quite cool and Genosekuto is pretty boss, but other than them I'm indifferent.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 1:41 AM

They probably would seem more like a quad group if the unicorn had a design similar to the other three. I dunno, they just look different, making them look less like a group. D:

And at the above poster: Well, there is the fact that there are more new Pokemon than in any other generation, suggesting why the legendaries are so high.

otaku-dono December 11th, 2010 1:44 AM

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Well, there is the fact that there are more new Pokemon than in any other generation, suggesting why the legendaries are so high.

Just because there are a lot of Pokemon doesn't mean there has to be so many. 5th gen doesn't have that many more Pokemon than 1st gen, and 1st gen makes do with 5. Really all that's needed is a trio, one or two main legends and an event Pokemon, not a whole bunch of random, superfluous ones.

Ho-Oh December 11th, 2010 1:55 AM

Well, Genosect is the event, the main legends would be Reshiram/Zekrom and due to them, for a third game, Kyurem is needed. As for the trios, I agree that the genies aren't needed, but the musketeers are fine. Anddd... I can't think of other legendaries besides Meloetta, so if you break it down, the amount of legendaries isn't that bad, imo. :3 Oh and Victini is needed because it's the Celebi/etc of the 5th generation.

otaku-dono December 11th, 2010 2:00 AM

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for a third game, Kyurem is needed.

But it's not. They managed to not have specific legendary for two gens, and only introduced it in 3rd gen because it kinda made sense. Then they seem to have thought "herpa derp how can we make more legendz" and it just went downhill from there.


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