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PatJamma January 8th, 2011 2:06 PM

I guess I found something "new" because it's name was not ????? it's name was a jumbled mess of text and I looked at every glitch pokemon on bulbapedia and none of them looked exactly like the one I found

JakeyBoy January 8th, 2011 3:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PatJamma (Post 6387704)
I guess I found something "new" because it's name was not ????? it's name was a jumbled mess of text and I looked at every glitch pokemon on bulbapedia and none of them looked exactly like the one I found

At this stage, I think finding any new glitch Pokemon is next to impossible, unless something messes up the memory completely. And there aren't any set sprites for Gen 2 glitch Pokemon, they use the last tileset loaded into memory. The ones on Bulbapedia aren't the only sprites they can have.

U.Flame January 8th, 2011 11:07 PM

I have a small question. I'm trying to get a Pokemon's special stat to 194 to encounter .4 again but I can't. My Mew's special is 192 but every time it levels up it goes to 195. How do I get it to 194 instead of 195?

Professor Cactus January 9th, 2011 12:00 AM

There's items that when you use them on a pokemon, it causes a stat to go up, such as HP UP (hp), PROTEIN (attack), CALCIUM (defense), etc. I forgot which item raises special.

U.Flame January 9th, 2011 12:43 AM

In the 1st gen? Leveling up usually raises the stat by 2-3, but it keeps going up by three when it levels up. How do I make it raise by only 2?

Professor Cactus January 9th, 2011 11:38 AM

The 2 glitches I'm most interested about are the laser-vision and forced shiny ditto glitches.

I heard that if you pick the water pokemon in gen II (I forget how to spell the name of it), there's a small chance that its leer will glitch up and act as a 1hKO attack instead of lowing the opponent's defense.

Also, I heard there's a way to force a ditto you encounter to be shiny. The only catch is that (from what I heard) you have to first catch a shiny gyaridos (sp?) and somehow use that to catch the shiny ditto in gen I.

As you can see, I forgot most of the details about both these glitches.

JakeyBoy January 9th, 2011 11:50 AM

The second one is real. It's on Bulbapedia, but I'm curious as to how it works. I don't see how it could possibly, unless Dittos in Gen 1 permanently copy IVs.

The first one sounds fake. If it was real, it wouldn't be specific to Totodile at least.

Professor Cactus January 9th, 2011 12:36 PM

Well, from what I read, it has to do with the starter pokemon. I don't remember if the other 2 starters learn leer or not.

I don't see how it couldn't be specific to totodile anyways, the coding of these earlier games have acted in stranger ways.

XDragonRiderX January 9th, 2011 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 6373660)
Yeah, unfortunately they fixed that with later Japanese games and basically all the Generation I games released outside Japan...
Jakeyboy's Comment: I think I saw that. He did something to do with the doors, right? Gonna go watch it again.
Yep, ok, that's what I was thinking of. If this was in the English versions I'd be known better, it's pretty interesting.

It was called the Where is it Door in Japan, I think. It allowed you to teleport to any place in the game. You had to do something, fight a Ratatata, run, and walk around, and you teleport to a place in the game. I don't really remember.

Professor Cactus January 9th, 2011 11:39 PM

Yeah, you basically just teleport to this one place, then to another, then to the Elite 4 and just walk past the Champion into the Hall of Fame.

JakeyBoy January 10th, 2011 9:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor Cactus (Post 6389410)
I don't see how it couldn't be specific to totodile anyways, the coding of these earlier games have acted in stranger ways.

Totodile has nothing to do with Leer's coding. The only way it would make sense to me was if there was a filler move called Leer with those effects that only Totodile can learn, or if the move Leer checks if you are using Totodile, and if so it goes lolglitch. I can't imagine any other way it could happen.

Also yeah, already read up on the Dokokashira door glitch.

Mew~ January 10th, 2011 9:19 AM

I never knew of the Mew glitch at the time I had the game, I would have used it! :3

Professor Cactus January 10th, 2011 2:05 PM

I just looked up the learnsets of the 3 Johto starters, I see that chikorita doesn't learn leer. I think it's suggested it's done with a starter so that the player has this move early on, or it could be that the game somehow just switches out the effect. It could be possible that the glitch could happen with cyndaquil as well and the info source just like totodile better, it's also possible that choosing totodile has a small chance of create confusion in part of the coding resulting in the game replacing lost data to keep from crashing.

As an example of specific non-glitch pokemon causing problems with a game: "• Tauros forms a notable bug in Pokemon Play It a game largely based on the Trading Card Game. Once the "Tauros" card appears, either in the player's own deck or that of the digital opponent, the game will shut down or freeze the computer." -Bulbapedia, Tauros article, under the Trivia section

After posting this, I'll proceed to test the glitch. (Just got the battery replaced in my Silver, so it has no save data atm anyways.)

Edit: Glitch data update: It's supposedly supposed to happen 4.7% of the time.
Aslo, gah! Just read that it only happens on Crystal. I'll start looking online for a Crystal Version.

The 100 Mega Shock January 10th, 2011 2:41 PM

Programming doesn't really work that way. And seeing as this particular makes little sense and I've never seen it documented on the various comprehensive websites (it's an incredibly common scenario when taking the massive Pokémon playerbase into account that it must have occured a lot of times if what it says is true) I'm not believing it.

The situation you describe with the Tauros card is specific to that Pokémon's own data, and implies moreso of corrupted or incorrectly programmed data than some kind of combination of elements like Totodile & Leer.

Professor Cactus January 10th, 2011 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6391617)
The situation you describe with the Tauros card is specific to that Pokémon's own data, and implies moreso of corrupted or incorrectly programmed data than some kind of combination of elements like Totodile & Leer.

I'm starting to think that the info source was wrong in that it had to be a totodile, it's more likely to just either be a rare leer glitch or a few corrupted games. It says it's more common than getting a shiny starter, but this statistic may be inaccurate.

I'll recreate the conditions in which the info source describes. He says that the pokemon won't be holding an item when the glitch occurs and that leer will have 60pp instead of the usual amount.
If the glitch works, then myth confirmed.
If it doesn't work after getting a starter without an item 3 times, then I'll assume it was a hoax or a hack and move on.

The 100 Mega Shock January 10th, 2011 3:46 PM

It's still such a common condition that it's nearly impossible that nobody has documented such a thing before.

We know the ins and outs of the Dokokashira Door Glitch, the Old Man Glitch and the Celebi Egg Glitch. All of those require situations and conditions to be met that would be very difficult impossible to stumble upon inadvertently, and the knowledge of these glitches was probably built up over time finding out each step to them and their effects.

Compare that to people using Leer on a Totodile with no item - something that must have been done thousands, if not tens of thousands of times.

e: oh yeah and if this is what you're talking about



That looks like a pretty blatant hack to me, with a 60pp Fire Type Scratch and a random 60pp Leer. Just some random screwing around with move properties.

Professor Cactus January 10th, 2011 4:06 PM

Didn't see the fire scratch, I guess that confirms it to be a hack.

XDragonRiderX January 11th, 2011 6:08 PM

Does anyone know all the Mew glitches? Like Mew under the truck?

Does anyone know all the supposed Mew glitches? I just know the REAL one and the Mew under the truck.

Professor Cactus January 11th, 2011 7:24 PM

I heard the mew under the truck one was just a rumor.
But if that's so, then what's the truck there for?

AshleyAnn February 17th, 2011 8:50 PM

HELP HELP HELP Pokemon red
 
ok i hook up all the trade cables and for a pokemon trade.I go to the trade lady at the counter and she says "please apply here". save your game befor entering the collussem. then i get all the way to the trade and i try to trade my charizered withanother pokemon and it says "your Blastoise is bad trade is canceled." i dont have a blastiose at all.( buy the way im trading with pokemon silver.) So i try to trade different pokemon and it says the same time (also i did the M' cheat along time ago on a different file ) please help thanxx

Rosebud2 February 18th, 2011 12:07 PM

There's a variation of the Mew glitch which lets you get a lv. 100 Mew after reaching Cerulean, which not a lot of people seem to have heard of. I have tried it and it works.

1. You will need a Pokemon with Growl and a Pokemon with Teleport (you can use Fly as well, I assume, but you can't get Fly until later in the game). Also, you will want some Poke Balls, obviously.
2. Heal at the Cerulean Pokemon Center so you will return to Cerulean when you teleport the next time.
3. Go up the Nugget Bridge and stand 1 square above where the trainer in the patch of grass to the left of the bridge goes onscreen. Save here in case you mess up later.
4. Take one step down and press start immediately. Go to "Pokemon" on the menu and teleport. When you leave the screen, a "!" will appear over the trainer's head. Also, your sprite will go all weird when you teleport. Don't worry, this is normal.
5. When you arrive back in Cerulean, go to Misty's gym and battle the swimmer. When he sends out his Shellder, send out your Pokemon with Growl and use Growl on the Shellder 6 times.
6. After you beat the Swimmer, walk up Nugget Bridge and the start menu will pop up. Press B, and you will enter battle with a wild Mew. Right now, it will NOT be at Lv. 100, it will be at Lv. 1. It should be pretty easy to catch.
7. Now, put the Mew in the first party slot and go to the nearby patch of grass. Encounter a Pokemon there. Switch Mew out for another Pokemon and win the battle. When Mew gains experience, it will grow to Level 100.

Dartht33bagger February 18th, 2011 2:13 PM

I've done the Missingno glitch a lot once I beat the game and I get bored.

I've also caught mew on my green version.

U.Flame March 10th, 2011 7:51 PM

I read about the Celebi egg glitch and saw that you can also get any item. I was wondering, instead of getting 2 lvl.57 Sneasels, I can get a GS Ball. But will the GS Ball trigger the event like it should? Or will it do nothing?

mew_nani March 20th, 2011 11:10 AM

Depends on which version of the game you have. If you use Gold or Silver versions, you will get an item called Teru-Sama, which has no effect. If you use Crystal version, you will get the GS Ball, which shouid enable the Celebi event.

LightOfTruth March 20th, 2011 12:20 PM

The reason why the glitches happen is because of the programme of the older games is unstable :)


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