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Cello September 15th, 2010 11:36 AM

According to word floating around 2chan, Black/White are 1gb in size.
It seems physically impossible for a NDS cart, however.

I have reason to not doubt them though.

Kevin September 15th, 2010 12:22 PM

Wait 1gb ROM size? OMG that takes up big space. I don't think we're gonna be hacking Gen. V anyways anytime soon, with all the 3-D graphics and such, I mean, we barely cracked some stuff for Gen. IV hacking.

SharpPoint September 15th, 2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny Demon (Post 6156917)
Wait 1gb ROM size? OMG that takes up big space. I don't think we're gonna be hacking Gen. V anyways anytime soon, with all the 3-D graphics and such, I mean, we barely cracked some stuff for Gen. IV hacking.

Since both are on the same system, hacking Black and White should be the same difficulty as hacking Diamond and Pearl.

Ninja Caterpie September 15th, 2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpPoint (Post 6156978)
Since both are on the same system, hacking Black and White should be the same difficulty as hacking Diamond and Pearl.

um no last time i checked that's not how things work. They're a completely new generation, they're based off a completely different engine which has even more complex 3D graphics. Graphic'sll very likely be much harder to hack.

The other stuff...can't be too sure. :|

Cello September 17th, 2010 5:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cello (Post 6156839)
According to word floating around 2chan, Black/White are 1gb in size.
It seems physically impossible for a NDS cart, however.

I have reason to not doubt them though.

My apologies everyone. The info I posted earlier has proven to be false(which, really, there's no surprise. I mean a 1gb DS game? Really Cello?)

The ROM size is 256MB in size, as proven by:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/koby_akid/

Mods, don't worry, it's not a link to the ROM. Koby_Akid has managed to dump the ROM but has no plan to distribute it, merely come up with cheats for B/W.

That's all. :D

~Teh Panda~ September 17th, 2010 2:50 PM

Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

Ninja Caterpie September 17th, 2010 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~ (Post 6162026)
Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

Then why am I seeing screenshots with Pokemon having leveled and/or gained experience?

Andrecito77 September 17th, 2010 3:36 PM

poketext does not work
 
thenewpoketext does not extract Black or White......

~Teh Panda~ September 17th, 2010 3:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 6162147)
Then why am I seeing screenshots with Pokemon having leveled and/or gained experience?

Alright you try out the rom for yourself ;).

You are probably just receiving pics straight from a DS. You realize you can screen capture >.>, also with hacks level editing is possible... As we know...

EDIT: Proof


Gamer2020 September 18th, 2010 12:27 AM

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/Gamer2020/yay.png

*Whistles while walking away*

●•ΛΣЯӨЩ•● September 18th, 2010 6:14 AM

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7715/pok.png


From GBATemp :


Quote:

a/0/
a/0/1/1 contains the images for the fight menu
a/0/2/5 item sprites
a/0/3/0 touchscreen status?
a/0/3/1 player sprites
a/0/32 npc sprites
a/0/4/1 trainer sprites in combat
a/0/5/5 Pokemon types / movement type
a/0/8/3 Pokemon status menu?
a/0/8/5 world map

a/1/
a/1/1/8 keyboard
a/1/2/0 wifi club screen
a/1/2/4 Pokemon types / movement type
a/1/3/1 Character Artworks?
a/1/3/7 Battle Recorder
a/1/3/9 DSi / DSi XL / LL Menu Screen
a/1/4/3 Game Sync Screens
a/1/5/1 Season Screens (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter)
a/1/6/4 Copyright Screen
a/1/7/0 Player and his friend's Pictures
a/1/7/1 CGear
a/1/7/3 Balloons
a/1/8/4 Trainer Sprites
a/1/8/7 Mysterious Person 'N'

a/2/
a/2/0/1 Certificate?
a/2/0/2 Certificate?
a/2/0/5 Starter's pictures
a/2/0/6 Battle Subway Map
a/2/2/0 'The End' Screen
a/2/4/4 Some Text (not the Script)
I don't take the credits...

slawter666 September 18th, 2010 8:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~ (Post 6162175)
Alright you try out the rom for yourself ;).

You are probably just receiving pics straight from a DS. You realize you can screen capture >.>, also with hacks level editing is possible... As we know...

EDIT: Proof


Yep, but it's fixed already


Platinum Lucario September 18th, 2010 11:36 AM

Looks to me like the Mapping in the 5th Generation hasn't changed from the 4th.
I think only certain maps are able to use the rotating script, as it is used to rotate the map around and a script that ends the rotation along with of course... the camera zoom scripts.
I knew it... the mapping engine hasn't changed much.

I haven't tried going into a mystery zone yet... but I'm guessing that it might be a different name.
Like Diamond/Pearl/Platinum had "Mystery Zone", HeartGold/SoulSilver had "----------".
I'm guessing the name of the Mystery Zone in Black/White probably will be either "???????????" or no text at all. I also wonder what the music would be in it as well.

~Teh Panda~ September 18th, 2010 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Great-Falkner (Post 6164646)
What I'am posting now is a black version with the exp fix, it works 100% but only with Desmume the emulator I'm not so if I spelled it right...any way there are 2 problems with this game, after you get to the second town and go into the pokemon center witch is an event with the new prof. and that girl thats your friend in the green once you talk to nurse joy the game freezes up but no black screen and the other problem is its in Japanese so someone needs to make it run with no cash gba and make a cheat that stops the freeze like in hh and ss, plus an english patch needs to be made.
Once these are made the game can be played to its full epicness with no worries...Oh and I tryed out the game and its actually pretty cool.

If you choose to do this good luck!

Well thats a no no, no uploading roms...

But it seems you did not even upload the actual thing XD since I would assume the rom is bigger than what a few bytes... lol

Gamer2020 September 18th, 2010 6:33 PM

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/Gamer2020/Capture.png

If only you could see the other things I didn't feel like taking screens of...

Poeman September 18th, 2010 6:35 PM

Do show :3
That looks awesome haha, nice work!

thethethethe September 18th, 2010 8:03 PM

Just at a quick glance through the ROM. Here's just a short list of things I noticed.
  1. No new evolution methods
  2. Some more redefining of data. eg. In base stats Grass Type appears to be 0B instead of 0C
  3. I'm unable to find simple structures used since Gen. 3. Which means one of two things. The structures have been overhauled or they have a completely new things like TM lists, and the way types interact.

I've just had a quick look. I could also have a ROM that's been tampered with, so if none of these apply to anyone else, just ignore this post.

Gamer2020 September 18th, 2010 8:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethethethe (Post 6165963)
Just at a quick glance through the ROM. Here's just a short list of things I noticed.
  1. No new evolution methods
  2. Some more redefining of data. eg. In base stats Grass Type appears to be 0B instead of 0C
  3. I'm unable to find simple structures used since Gen. 3. Which means one of two things. The structures have been overhauled or they have a completely new things like TM lists, and the way types interact.

I've just had a quick look. I could also have a ROM that's been tampered with, so if none of these apply to anyone else, just ignore this post.

I'm pretty sure there is a new TM list ;)

Potatomuffin September 18th, 2010 10:17 PM

This is Potatomuffin, signing in! I'll be trying to map hack (as par usual) Black. What have you guys got so far?( i'm downloading the rom as I type)

aSeRo141414 September 19th, 2010 4:53 AM

I seen a sprites of Black and White, thanks to Galukxy and WonderGirl, Galukxy found it wondergirl post it in the news in her site, XD
but it's from Veekun
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9250/bwmontage.png

axlefoley September 21st, 2010 4:22 AM

I think I may have found the start of the wild pokemon data

$8A21B44

can anyone confirm this?

Anonamous September 21st, 2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~ (Post 6162026)
Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

Lol that explains a lot. No wonder lol I just thought I was going crazy

Sora's Nobody September 21st, 2010 12:58 PM

Why hasnt anyone ripped the ows yet? I would do it, but tahaxan doesent open on my laptop.

war rock exe September 21st, 2010 1:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Teh Panda~ (Post 6162026)
Also to anyone who has the rom, such as me. They have placed in an anti piracy method which disables the gaining of experience in battles. It appears this is being worked on though...

ya, it's already been patched by hackers (such as myself). It only took like a day to fix that, now they're working on an english patch, which sounds difficult

~Teh Panda~ September 21st, 2010 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 6172767)
...That is if the text can be extracted. thenewpoketext cannot do it.

Well hackers are resourceful and if they have patched the anti piracy I am sure they can change some text strings.


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