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Ranting on B/W
They don't even look like pokémon anymore. Only a few of them do. Pokémon were based on animals. So there would come a point at which they wouldn't be able to 'create' new pokemons anymore. They have reached that point now. Okay, not all of the original pokemon were animals but that was to have some of them stand out(, IMO). They're more like DIGIMON now. I can't believe there are still people who like the current Pokémon games. Pokémon has had it's best time at coming up with new stuff. They should start creating other types of games now, Like something with real-time estimated battles that look more realistic instead of the turn-based battles.I have really started to hate the pokemon series with the new Black and White releases. I've played every single one of them from Yellow to HeartGold even most of the mystery dungeon and pokemon ranger spinoffs, except for the games like pokemon dash and pokemon link or even pokemon pinball. Pokemon just isn't pokemon anymore.
Please give me your opinion, maybe you can show me the light of the new games, that was hidden away in this terrible dark cave of non-pokemon. |
Well the storyline looks great. And as people asked for something different we got it. Theres going to be a lot more features, more than even gen 4 added. Also you don't have to tolerate these Pokemon for too long, once you beat the E4 you can catch 'em all.
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fs here we go again...define what looks like a Pokemon. If a dolphin looked like a shark, does that mean it's a shark and not a dolphin? NO IT DOES NOT. I am so sick and tired of over-obsessed fanboys getting mad because Pokemon changed a tiny little bit. It grew up. Maybe you should do the same? If they are Pokemon, they are in a Pokemon game, made by people who make Pokemon, they are Pokemon, if you think you can do better, go make 156 Pokemon and PM them to gamefreak. I'm sure they'd love to see your ideas. You don't like them? Don't play them, it's that simple, stop whining about a kid's game and get over it.
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Share your rants in the Pros and Cons Discussion instead. =P
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Cons: Fire/Fighting starter AGAIN, uncreative names AGAIN, triple battles and rotations battles, game differences are really lame AS ALWAYS, no more "low health beep" (you never know you miss something until it's gone), too many legendarys AGAIN and probably a lot more
Pros: Low number of HMs *sigh* Gamefreak went so wrong after GSC |
I love the animated sprites!
I am not too happy that we can't have pokemon follow us like in HeartGold/SoulSilver. |
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2 these are the jap names so far...idk how creative they'll be in english. 3 triple and rotation battles are awesome imo...i just hope they dont take it any further 4 the low health beep got changed for a new track that sounds great and still has the same effect as the beep since u only hear it when your health is low. 5 i agree... sorry just throwing in my 2 cents |
Regarding the constant "they don't look like Pokemon" rants that I'm so annoyed at hearing, what defines a Pokemon? What "looks" like a Pokemon? |
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I like it that they made Tm's reusable this gen, now I don't have to struggle with buying a new one each time I use one. |
I started playing Pokemon White a few days ago, (*cough*ROM*cough*) and I have to say, the game is amazing~ <33 Wonder graphics, the 3D is great~ Awesome Pokemon, always something interesting around the corner to be caught! This is the only time I have no room for HM slaves! XD And thank god there is an easy way to train low level Pokemon! This is Pokemon at it's best in my opinion!
However, now I have to get to the cons... But there is only 1. The. Game. Is. EASY. Too easy. By this I mean the Gyms... THERE IS SOMETHING DIRECTLY TO COUNTER IT NEARBY. CAUTION, THIS IS A HUGE SPOILER. (Doesn't know how to hide) Spoiler:
Don't you remember in the old days where you had to try a bit? Like how Falkner closed off a route to prevent you from getting a Pokemon that countered his team... Or how Sabrina's Gym had no exploitable weakness and all of her Pokemon were very high levels. I mean there were a few helps to Gyms back then... Like Lt. Surges. Digglett cave right next to his city. Dugtrio, anyone? Or Roxanne in Rustboro city. Your starter kicked her Pokemons' asses, no matter which one ya chose. A little bit of a break is good, but having this much? It's just too much, Gamefreak. :c I wish there was a challenge setting on Pokemon. No tutorial, not helpfully placed Wild Pokemon all the time, like the good ol' days. Oh, and one more thing... Antidotes used to have a use. Poison used to be so deadly... They made me afraid of Weedle. 4th gen introduced that if they reached 1 hp, the Poison cleared. Kinda helpful if I had no Antidotes, I'd just run around until it was gone. And now, it doesn't even damage you outside of battle!! I got poisoned during the bug gym and was like, "OH SHI- I BETTER GET TO THE POKECENTER", but then shortly found out it did NOTHING. Now poison types are just a minor nuisance. |
The most common complaint about these games is that the Pokemon don't look like Pokemon, whatever that is supposed to mean. To say that is meaningless before someone defines what constitutes a Pokemon.
Besides, in reality, we do not a Pokemon is. A Pokemon is a creature in the video game series, Pokemon. Do the more recent Pokemon (whose identities are in question) fit this definition? Yes, they do. Despite this, I do understand what the people are talking about. It's been that way since Ruby and Sapphire - the Pokemon are becoming more intricate, less simplistic. People enjoyed the old style - so, they feel that, since it was changed, that it must be for the worse. This mindset is somewhat understandable - the original 251 were what most of today's Pokemon fans got hooked on, some even the original 151. But, yes, that's all it comes down to - people being reactionary. This aversion to change is not the same as disliking some of the Pokemon, or even most of them, it is just about not giving them a chance because they are different that what you liked a decade ago. You could also be one of the handful of people who actually sat down, and took the time to think about it, and decided all the new Pokemon are garbage - that you hate the direction the series is going in. If you are, I can do nothing to dissuade this. For both the reactionary folks and those that genuinely dislike the new direction, I have a question. Why are you still here? If you dislike it, there's no reason to be here, on Pokemon websites anymore. Drag out your Game Boy Color out of the closet and play Gold version, or Red version, or whatever it was that you played for the first time. You could, I suppose, even make your own set of forums dedicated to just the first two generations of Pokemon. There is absolutely no reason for you to go on the sections for new games and rant about how awful they are. Pokemon has changed. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. I do apologize if that was a tad harsh. |
One of the con's for me is also all the "They don't even look like Pokemon anymore!" stuff going around, Pokemon look a tad different each gen to begin with...
Now for one of the con in game is that they didn't give Magmar Drought but they did to Ninetails... |
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A Pro is the scene with N and Team Plasma instead of the traditional battle champion after you beat the E4 :)
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Pro: Being able to have your own house where you can put furniture where you want it as well as being able to visit your friends houses in the dream world!
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Pro: Moving Pokemon, Kana/Kanji Feature, DW adds more abilities for competitive players, Plasma being the most "plot" based team so far, reusable TMs, N is a Nuzlocker (well kinda), The only Gen that I like all three starters since Kanto, Female Non-Military Electric Gym Leader, You can choose which order to fight the E4, The Music (exept for Adeku's), Lucky Egg is easy to get, Tabbune = Easy Grinding, The only HM needed is Cut
Con: Every Gym is easily Counter-Picked, No refightable Gym Leaders, Adeku's theme, Geechisu's speeches take forever when your in a rush, The method to evolve Chobomaki and Kaburumo, The Only TM needed is CUT |
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Pro: White forest, it looks so cool, it's looks like a real big tree forest :) Oh and the new Grass/Steel type Pokemon I've been wanting one of those for some time!
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Pros: They fixed d&n, the graphics are pretty cool, you dont need hm's, the dream world is very cool and wifi.
Cons: I hate the story -_- a complete dissapointment. The pokemon are also pretty bad (offtopic). The pokegear and the graphics, they were too lazy to make 3d models of the pokemon they look sooo wrong in battle. They could have done a lot better but they rushed the game and that was a downfall im really dissapointed. |
@locoroco actually you need one HM to complete the game, Cut. Without it you can't proceed the game after the 1st Gym
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Pro: The game has a difficulty where I can't just blow through things as easily. It makes you more alert.
Con: The game has a difficulty where I can't just blow through things as easily. I just want to breed and use the pokeshifter! |
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Whoa...I was about to say...no Safari Zone, either?! WTF is going on? That would've been madness. Apparently, the White Forest is very similar and essentially serves the same function...though it's limited to one version. :cer_no: *sighs* But in past games, there was something special about going on a solo excursion sans Pokemon hauling around rocks, bait, and PokeBlocks. Plus, you gotta sneak up on the target Pokemon like a ninja! :bandit:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/57/BW_Prerelease_Zoroark_battle_eng.png In other notes, I dislike that "Claw Sharpen" got renamed as "Hone Claws". The only time I've heard the word "hone" used is with honing skills and honing in on something, not honing something like claws... :\ But apparently, it can mean "sharpening", so I guess it roughly fits. But still, Claw Sharpen even fits the current 12-character limit for a move's name! If we can have Blaze and Turboblaze as abilities, I don't see why we couldn't have Sharpen alongside Claw Sharpen... :( I'm liking the renaming of Trickery to Foul Play, though. And finally, a pro for BW: I love that the Battle Text Box is now a semi-transparent black box. Adds a new feel to the battle screen, and still maintains the "black/white" theme of the games. Plus, it makes battles seem even more like serious business. :) ...Except now I'm bugged by the font of the letters and numbers (the level numbers, not the HP numbers) in the HP Bar Box (which isn't even a "box" anymore!). And the HP Bar shrunk... Personally, I really liked the HP Bar Box featured in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Versions. I've gotten very used to the HP Bar Box in RSE, and DP just enhanced and beautified it to a very pleasant design. :cer_love: But I guess as Pokemon progresses, the HP Bar Box grows as well... :\ |
Pro: Awesome new monkey names.
Con: Only one fishing rod? Also the game is pretty linear :\ |
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I was not so good on the designs. Human items as designs? Come on, I would accept nature items but human? What I do like is the fact the main characters on the game actually grew or are older than 10 year old characters. I like the NY setting though.
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Hmmm...I avoided to look at the new Pokémon as much as I can because I want to be surprised dureing playing. I like the ones I did see though.
I generally prefer Pokémon modelled after animals and natural things instead of man made things because I can't see why a natural living creature would be shaped like a product. But it depends...I did like Chimecho for example, so I'm gonna wait 'till I play the game to decide wether I dislike them or not. What I dislike is that one can re-use TMs. It makes things kinda easy. I also dislike that they chose to translate the region name in the other versions. Now it doesn't fit in with the other ones. I don't like that the only way to transfer old Pokémon into Black and White is similar to the Pal Park. I'd prefer it if they had something similar to the time machine in S/G/C .It being a one way street will make me hesistat to transfer my favorites, unless the new game turns out to be a new favorite for me. Besides this I don't know much yet, so I'll wait. |
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Pro; Black City looks amazing. And the new E4 layout, along with Victory road and the bridges. Con; It's in Japanese Not much of an Post-E4 story D; I would of like some more Team Plasma. |
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All the new Pokemon (Smugleaf, Pignite, and Wotter.) All the new features Its a challenge Animated sprites Good story Cons: No cons. (I have never played Pt/HG/SS so I don't have to female dog about every feature that didn't make it.) |
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I like the idea of having the HMs mostly for after game stuff. |
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-Really good Pokemon for me. -Keeps a Pokemon feeling,even though it's got many changes. -GTS Negotiation, you can get many foreign Pokemon before the second gym! -Good Storyline -Amazing music in some points Cons: -The Game ends too quickly,after defeating E4 i feel there's nothing to do. >_< -The levels are crazy after E4. -There are some very annoying moments in the game which just eat your time. -Pokemon festivals >_< -Too easy. I beat the game very quickly,and Leaders have weak Pokemon. -Ridiculous evolution levels (I understand 40 but 60? Really?) |
Pros: Great storyline, awesome new type combos
Cons: WAY to many standalone pokemon. All of those standalone pokemon could have had their own evos or pre evos if there wasn't so many. There are 14 standalone pokemon. 7 of those could've been a pre evo or evo for something. |
What would you have liked to see in Black and White
What would you have liked to have seen done in Black and White, that just never happened?
Personally, I was hoping for some more Eevee evolutions. As silly as it was every gen, I had finally got used to the idea. Ghost type eevee D: What do you guys think? |
I would've liked to see the Pokeathlon in B/W because of how fun it was in HG/SS. That's all.
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I would have like to see a few features, (a couple introduced in HG/SS) Pokéathlon (as mentioned in the previous post) the follow me feature (Pokémon following you) Eeveelutions, maybe a rock & ground type, also the VS. Seeker as it's a hell of a lot harder to train without that thing and Gym rematches, but having said all them they're features that could be introduced in the 3rd game.
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I wanted the game to have more storyline after the E4.
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I kind of hoped that the levels would rise a bit more slowly, especially after the league. It doesn't add to the difficulty factor, it just makes grinding a lot more annoying.
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After a bit of thinking, merged with Pros and Cons since this is related to what should have happened/been preferred. :)
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Pros: New story I guess |
Heard from a few people now that the games ends abruptly, that's quite a con.
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I thought the game was pretty good. A bit more difficult than the other games up to this point have been. Reminded me of how challenging the Elite 4 of FR/LG/B/R/Y were. ^_^ Although it still wasn't TOO difficult. Was able to beat the game with hardly ever switching out my Snivy. I still need to fight
~SPOILER~ ... Cynthia ... ~END SPOILER~ That should be a good battle! :D |
There isn't a Safari Zone are there? T^T
Pro : Improved graphics. :D Con : Gym leaders have a lack in Pokemon. :\ |
I Havent Played it..But I dont like the Pokemon that much
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thats kinda funny, because I just talked to some one who thought there were to miney features in the game and gamefreak had put to mutch in it. Hmmm I don't really care about new features, the only thing that matters to me is good gameplay witch it does have
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What do you think of the changes?
After trying the japanese versions of Pokemon Black and White I have a feeling they have killed the Pokemon series. Nothing is like the other generations and the game is just not wat Pokemon is about. For the few people who watched the first movie and was there when Red and Blue and even Green came out you know that Pokemon Black and White is a turn in a direction to games like Yo-ug-oh and Digimon where the styles of new Pokemon even resembles the creatures and monsters in yo-ug-oh and digimon. I never liked Yo-ug-oh and Digimon and that may be why Pokemon is more popular and one of the most popular franchises in the world. So here is my complaint list of Black and White.
1. The world. In every generation up to Diamond and Pearl have had all green towns and city's except for the GC coliseum games. Now in Dismond and Pearl they went to the darker city's but they added wind mills and generators. Now in Black and White you see huge city's with sky scrapers and a city resembling New York with dark allies. 2. The Pokemon Is it just me or do some of the Pokemon look like Yo-ug-oh dragons, caskets, and knights. Infact some of there colors are even the same but that is not all I saw 2 that look like sesame street caracters with black belts. Look at there faces and you will see. It does not look like Pokemon was based off of animals at all but rarer other games and kids tv shows. 3. Names What is with the English names of some of the Pokemon. They are easier to say in Japanese and make more sense to, I think they should be the other way for some of them. 4. No old generations What is with the games where you don't see older generations until you beat the game. This diminished my interest in the games and made it boring real quick when you saw nothing you knew the name of. 5. Stat and move changes Some of the older games moves and Pokemon stats have been changed, yes only one or two but this to me is just not right. I stuck around when Diamond Pearl and Platinum came out but this is diminishing my faith Pokemon. But when it comes out march 6th here I will give it s good play to see what I think of the changes and text in english for a solid review. |
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Secondly, what exactly are Pokemon supposed to look like hmm? I'm get sick of haters using this as their excuse u.u So what if a few stat and move changes have been made; nothing major deal with it. They wanted to give of a fresh start like they did in Kanto; thats why the routes have been reset to 1,2 etc... Also you think if Kanto came out in 3D that Saffron and Celadon city won't look like Castella? Your seriously complaining about that every town isn't all smiles and rainbows? -.- I can't argue with the names. |
I greatly welcome B/W's changes, but I hated it when I couldn't use the old Pokemon pre-National Dex. The names don't really matter to me as long as they sound good. It's true that some Gen V Pokemon have terrible designs, but that doesn't mean you should hate on the entire generation as a whole.
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1. The world.
In every generation up to Diamond and Pearl have had all green towns and city's except for the GC coliseum games. Now in Dismond and Pearl they went to the darker city's but they added wind mills and generators. Now in Black and White you see huge city's with sky scrapers and a city resembling New York with dark allies. Saffron, Celadon, Goldenrod, Lilycove, Jublife are just about as big. So I don't see anything wrong with having a metropolis every one in awhile. It is not as though the whole region consists of huge city upon huge city. 2. The Pokemon Is it just me or do some of the Pokemon look like Yo-ug-oh dragons, caskets, and knights. Infact some of there colors are even the same but that is not all I saw 2 that look like sesame street caracters with black belts. Look at there faces and you will see. It does not look like Pokemon was based off of animals at all but rarer other games and kids tv shows. Yes we have heard this many times it looks like Yu-Gi-oh it looks like Digimon and so on and so, and I am sure we will hear it over and over again. No they look like pokemon, what is a prototypical pokemon supposed to look like? 3. Names What is with the English names of some of the Pokemon. They are easier to say in Japanese and make more sense to, I think they should be the other way for some of them. Not everyone can be happy. As long as they remotely symbolize or allude to what the pokemon is then I am fine with it. 4. No old generations What is with the games where you don't see older generations until you beat the game. This diminished my interest in the games and made it boring real quick when you saw nothing you knew the name of. Why does there need to be an older generation pokemon in the Main Story Line? A lot of this generation is all about new things and that just what the did with pokemon and the routes. Unova is far apart from the other regions so of course there won't be a multitude of other pokemon there. 5. Stat and move changes Some of the older games moves and Pokemon stats have been changed, yes only one or two but this to me is just not right. Out of anything I don't really see this an issue what so ever. So there stats change. As long as they are not nerfed or broken then it should all be fine. |
This seems to be a bit of a more pros/cons discussion so I've merged it with this.
Also we have the new Weekly Poll for changes if you want to discuss some of your thoughts there, and even vote. :) |
I am not a hater of the new games, but watching the first movie and playing Pokemon yellow for a while brings be back and when I compare to the new generation I feel sick to my stomach and fell it's overall a bad game. I am not a compleat hater but as a person who was into it since the first day I find it to big of a change for me. The message I made was for more the people who still follow in the first generation.
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looks like a great game can't wait to play it hopefully it has a huge map
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Did anyone mention the con of Selfdestruct and Explosion no longer halving the opponent's defense? Because that's definitely a big big big con.
I've already taken a great liking for the new Pokémon. Now the leaked list of localised names is a bit worse. But I'll like that sonner or later too. |
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Anyway, I love the new approach to these games. I'm really looking forward to using the new pokemon in the new surroundings :D A Buffalo with an affro is an epic win too. Also, one question: is it true that you don't actually need HMs to progress through the story? Or am I horribly misinformed? ^^' |
It's true, Zeph. Only Cut is needed, the rest is completely optional. I'm not sure wether this is good or bad... Of course, it's great that you don't always need to carry a HM slave with you, but it's breaking a massive tradition. Which is of course one of this game's functions, but still...
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I like it how they made Petal dance more powerful :) |
Just one that I wanted to share, Pro: Stronger trainers in this generation; Con: No trainer rematches :[
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Pro: Caitlin returning ^_^ |
Game BLK/WHT what could be better
I think that the game should have it like Heartgold/Soulsilver, where the pokemon can follow you.That would be better
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Pros and cons seems to cover this, because it appears to be a con for you~
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I was a little confused when I heard they don't have Walking Pokemon. But then i remembered that the camera is much diferent now, so they would need 650+ images of the pokemon, multiplied by every angle and motion. Hopefully we will gett walking pokemon latter.
There is no exuse for lack of Remaches. If you can do it once, just do it again. Out of 650 pokemon, how am I suposed to find the 2 I actualy care about? (in Dream World) |
con: doryuzuu + t-tar combo is a hard to beat combo on wifi =( must I always run hitmontop or breloom?
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Personally I think the new Pokés are terrible artistically.
They are supposed to be wild creatures - so like others before me - I'm baffled on how natural evolution decided that a Garbage bag or Light Bulb or other man made shapes - were suitable for survival. With Pokémon - the first 256 was fine. After that it just starts to get a bit desperate. I'm aware they are catering to a younger generation with the graphics - and that the metagame is still intact - but still - they could make the new characters appealing to kids as well as the older generation without resorting to lazy design ideas. Boo to you Gamefreak. Blue Trainer |
Con: You can't choose a frame for your textbox :( I always did that.
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Con: No VS. Seeker, there is the Tabunne method nontheless, which pretty much makes up for it if not better way to gain exp, still would have enjoyed the VS. seeker though.
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Pros and Cons Discussion Thread
This will be a long list of complaints, some petty some big problems.
1. Monkeys. There are already a few and they weren't good in my opinion, they were mostly silly. What do they do? Add 6 more terrible ones... 2.Stage 2 pokemon(basic->stage one->stage two).19 more that means 57 out of 156 pokemon are part of a 3 stage evolution chain. There is only 27 stand alone pokemon and 36 stage 1 pokemon! GEEZ! My math is wrong somewhere but that is close. 3. The sprites are not professional looking... It is very strange, but look at the spriting forums on this site and you'll find better 4.The ideas are weird. The ice cream one is absolutely terrible and you will never make be go against that 5."Cute" pokemon. You are playing a game about animal fighting but they keep making pokemon that are meant to be cute and cuddly? 6. The names. Throh, Timburr, Woobat and Swoobat? These took know real though, they are just giving fun names for little kids or something. I'll do some more later but I need sleep right now |
1. No Pikachu.
2. No Pikachu. 3. WTF no Pikachu? 4. Why no Pikachu? 5. Region locking on the DSi, though it won't affect me. And no Pikachu. |
7. look at klink, klang, and klinklang(again terrible names). The evolution involves only adding more to the sprite. I know if anyone made a sprite like that on this site they'd be criticized about it.
8. Inadequate stage two pokemon. By stage two they should be pretty strong and very useful not only in stats but in appearance. Pokemon like Gothitelle, Reuniclus, and Vanilluxe(I cringe at the name) all look like they barely deserve basic statis. |
I dont like how most of the awesome pokemon that are on my team werent avilable untill after my 5th gym battle
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I have played Pokemon from the very first games and gotten nearly every game since then and other then a few cons I loved every single one of them heaps, even when I got to a teenager I still had love for Pokemon and always looked forward to every new Generation, now with so much con features/removals and the way Pokemon have turned out, I have given up Pokemon for good. SoulSilver was my last game and I guess a nice way to finish it off, I'm not paying for this game I am finally off Pokemon for good. Farewell.
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I DIG Sky Arrow Bridge and Hiun/Castelia City.
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Recently found two Pros and one Cons; really hoping the Cons lessen:
Pro: EV recalculation after the completion of each battle! Amazing! I always dreaded training Pokemon to Level 100 in Generation 3 because a Pokemon's EVs are basically set by that point. You can tinker with the EV-reducing Berries and the Vitamins, but you can't make up the EVs gained through actual training. But now they introduce this nifty feature, so EV-training is made even easier! MAJOR PRO, IMO, and I commend whoever implemented it in the programming. :cer_boogie: Pro: A minor detail, but I love how the "Fists" are redesigned for BW: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/79/DynamicPunch_III.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b4/DynamicPunch_IV.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5d/DynamicPunch.png In Generation 3, I loved the "gritty" feel of the fists, paws, and "chops/thrusts". I disliked how in Generation 4 they were given a more "digitized", blocky feel. The transition from paws to human feet for the kick attacks was even worse. Ick. In Generation 5, however, I'm glad that the fists and "chops/thrusts" have regained their rounded forms that are similar to the Generation 3 depictions, with a nice matte look to them now. I still hate that the kick attacks are still rendered as human feet as opposed to animal paws. T_T Con: According to this thread, the concept of having all combatants' Pokemon shown to each other before the battle begins. This way, you know exactly what 6 Pokemon you have to deal with. Without this feature, you would have to be ready for 649 Pokemon at any given time. I think they should have made this feature optional, to please those who like surprises and to please those who dislike excessive guesswork in Pokemon battles. |
After having so much fun with my SS and HG games (I particularly enjoy the Partner Pokemon following you around who you can talk to and interact with and I also really like the Pokewalker feature), I'm having a hard time accepting the changes in the Black and White games - namely, the loss of the Partner Pokemon and Pokewalker feature.
I'm sure I'll have fun with the new games - and maybe it's a little embarrassing to admit this - but out of the 540 hours I've already clocked into my SS game, a decent number of them were clocked by just running around with my Partner Pokemon and interacting with them. With that knowledge, I just know I will miss that feature in Black and White. |
- N leaves forever after the final battle in his castle~ Why can't he stay~~?
- No VS seeker~ - Can't catch Pokemon from older generations unless National Pokedex is obtained~ |
Pros: The music, I really feel like they've worked hard as the soundtrack is amazing, themes like Souryuu City, Elite 4 battle, Rival battle and the Battle Subway sountrack are amazing. Also I must be one of the few people who really likes the new Pokémon, none have particularly looked that bad for me.
The new EXP system, it makes it much easier to get a balanced team especially as you get a Lucky Egg quite early on. Cons: The removal of the VS Seeker. The removal of walking Pokémon, but it's nothing too major. |
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Pros: I liked some pokemon's designs. A lot of the music is good. The new Exp. system (if you fall behind it's easier to catch back up).
Cons: Other pokemon's designs (they're either really good or terrible, not much in between). N's Music (It's my least favorite track. Not to say it's absolutely terrible, but...). Can't walk with pokemon. The new EXP system (If you get ahead, it's harder to stay ahead.) |
Everyone whining about how the Pokemon look are all people who just saw them for the first time.
Eventually, they will grow on you. They always do. People always whine about the Pokemon at first, I find it quite annoying actually. Then they love them after 2 weeks. :/ The Pokemon are creative, they look nice. For the most part. The region is diverse. The new features are fun, and actually make you want to the play the game after you beat the E4. In my opinion, the 5th generation games are the best so far. |
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The removal of the VS Seeker is somewhat troublesome... If being produced, I wish Gray Version and the RS remakes have much more reliable methods of training than the player monotonously challenging the Elite 4 and the Champion repeatedly. Furthermore, yet another Con with BW: Glass Flutes relegated to "valuable items"! (i.e., Nuggets and Pearls only usable for sales). Seriously, WTF, Game Freak? If you're going to bother coding them into the game, why not let them retain their original abilities? (If it's for Awakening and similar items being buyable, just make the Glass Flutes rare!) It almost feels like an insult to Generation 3's glass-making system, and I am really wondering how RS remakes will fare with all of BW's horrendous flaws potentially affecting the remakes. |
I dont like that there is no new Eevee evo. This has been the way through all generations so far. Except G3 i tink. I was hoping for a ghost type called Mysteon or a Flying type called Soareon or something. Disapointed.
I also dont like that apparently you wont be able to use any older gen pokemon until you finish the game. NO EEVEE! whats going on!!! Devastated... |
Taking away the game corner indefinitely. I miss that little gem :c
Also, HGSS' pokemon following you shouldn't have been a one-time thing :< |
Pro: That TM's can be reused.
Con: You can use the new Pokemon pre-national dex but everything else is nowhere to be seen. |
Con: We've noticed that each new game sort of has "mascot" other than the one that's literally on the game cover. They're usually one of the first Pokemon seen - in 2007-8 it was Riolu and Lucario, and now it's Zorua and Zoroark. Riolu was obtainable in DPPt, even if in one egg, but now Zorua is an event Pokemon. What if you can't access Wifi on your DS? :/
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I love the new TM feature. I hated doing Voltorb flip for coins...
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The C-Gear.
I don't get it... Apart from the communication aspect, what's the point? I'd much prefer a Pokenav, Pokegear, or even a Poketch. Seriously. Oh, and the lack of a VS Seeker. Quote:
REALLY. WHY. GAME. FREAK. In Gen 3 these were possibly the most useful 5 items. In Gen 3, you didn't need Full Heals if you had these! Whether they snapped a Pokemon out of confusion, or awakened them, or even made wild Pokemon less or more likely to appear, they always came in handy. So, why on earth have they now been turned into just valuable items?! It just really annoys me. They've got rid of most of the good things (like these, vs seeker etc.). I just want to know why. WHY, GAME FREAK? WHY!? Also, I'm sad about the removal of your Pokemon walking behind you. My Snorlax was the only thing that kept me from riding everywhere on a bike. But I suppose I'll be on my bike again for most of Black and White. Just like some things were introduced just for Leafgreen and Firered, it seems this was a one off two. It's a shame. Yet another con (that will probably not even matter :P) The region looks tiny compared to others. And don't you need only 1 HM to complete the story? And haven't secret bases been removed for the Dream World? Anyway, Pros. Well, I like most of the new Pokemon for a start. :D And I think the re-usable TMs are good. (Even if they do make the game easier. And we'll not be seeing any "TMs break after one use, so use them wisely!" speeches this time around xD) So... yeah. And despite all the cons, I still can't wait until next week! :D -Totodile42 |
I hate the endless remixes of the trainer battle theme. (Seriously. There's like ten of them. The only good ones are the original and subway trainer.) Oh, and I almost forgot: NO PIKACHU!
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Yet another Fire/Fighting type starter.
No old Pokemon. VGC 2011 only allows Gen V Pokemon. ...an Ice Cream cone Pokemon, seriously? |
I like the new animation system they gave the pokemon, but some of them are just weird. I see a pattern: repeat animation 3-6 times, play different animation once or twice, repeat. I mean yes, it's a start, and they had to make animations for every single Pokemon and their back sprites, but... Eh, some just look weird. For others it works, but for some... They just ending up looking stupider.
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If you're a true Pokemon fan, I don't see why you all are complaining so much about how the Pokemon look. They'll probably grow on you sooner or later anyway. I have been playing since Blue and Red and there has never been a Pokemon I disliked. I am so over-joyed at the new game I can't wait! All the Pokemon and the places look amazing. |
It's true that Black and White will probably never reach to the sheer amount of buyers of Red and Blue (Black and White sold 2.63 million, whereas Red, Blue and Green has over 10 million, both on opening, in Japan.), but you can't deny Black and White shall be a big hit, and Gamefreak is constantly gaining new buyers, so please shut up about it not going to sell well, or Gamefreak is losing buers as you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
The only con in this generation is the choice of sprites. Who in God's name was in charge of telling the spriters to use D/P sprites, arguably the worst sprites of Gen 4. My God Gamefreak, why? |
Although I do like some of DPPt's sprites (Platinum's trumps DP however), I kind of have to agree with you. Some sprites were poorly done.
Some of the newer sprites are actually pretty appealing, however. :) |
i just wishes i had people beside the eliet four and rivals to rebattle
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In terms of DP sprites, they're not any worse than the others. The others are just newer.
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i dont like the pokemon musical. it needs to die
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