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Pearls_Barf October 20th, 2010 9:03 PM

Pro: Graphics!
Con: I wish the Pokemon follow you like in HG/SS

Blue Nocturne October 24th, 2010 1:14 AM

Pros:
- A beautiful new region
- Plenty of new ghost types
- Shadera!!!!
- No More Contests
- I quite like a lot of the new pokemon
- NO MORE PIKACHU!

Cons:
- The replacement for contests
- The gym puzzles. For something with stunning 3D-ness, I was expecting a bit more creativity with the gyms.
- They got rid of Dark Pulse, Iron Tail and Dragon Pulse as TM's, but they kept rubbish like Thunder Wave and Swagger.
- The starter. They were a huge disappointment IMO. The Water... something, is OK. It has a bit of flexibility in what it can do, not much, but its still there. The Grass Snake is just a grass type, capable of little else, and we have yet another Fire/Fighting starter. Oh Joy.

kohei October 24th, 2010 6:56 AM

Some recent cons that surfaced for me:
- Less bag pockets compared to DPt
- PC box still not as easy to manipulate than RSE
- Bicycle is faster, but not necessarily easy to handle
- Encount rates seems to be higher than HGSS
- Passerby survey has little returns compared with the time you spend with your DS switched on
- Some menu functions (well, C-Gear) is only responsive to touch, and not the DS buttons
- The bottom screen of your DS is pretty much dead when you have the C-Gear turned off
- Some Gym leaders don't really do anything in the storyline. It's mostly Yaakon and Aloe who are really involved
- Dark Trinity seems forced. You don't get to battle them, and the only purpose they serve in the plot is to push you ahead

johnny18 October 24th, 2010 7:39 AM

Cons:
-The touch screen is for poke gear which is useless and I have to used the the A button for most of the time except when I'm battling.
-the box system looks so complicated. I find that I love the way how the boxes work in HG/SS
- the designs are like just for having a pokemon but not all of them look really bad

Jerme October 24th, 2010 8:59 AM

con: poison doesnt get you when you walk around.. thats what made the type so deadly (for the player atleast) but now its no different from burn..

fenyx4 October 24th, 2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 6243915)
con: poison doesnt get you when you walk around.. thats what made the type so deadly (for the player atleast) but now its no different from burn..

Seriously? :cer_no: I dislike getting poisoned at all really, but having poison afflict you during battle and in the overworld made it unique, since it doesn't have a secondary effect in battle like Burn's Attack reduction or Paralysis's Speed reduction. That overworld effect made it so Trainers would be sure to bring an Antidote or Pecha Berry just in case. IMO, it also added a bit of tension in the overworld if you were journeying and got lost in a cave or forest. You'd plan out your steps carefully to conserve the Pokemon's health until you managed to reach a Pokemon Center or similar area. :cer_nod:

Jerme October 24th, 2010 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 6244114)
Seriously? :cer_no: I dislike getting poisoned at all really, but having poison afflict you during battle and in the overworld made it unique, since it doesn't have a secondary effect in battle like Burn's Attack reduction or Paralysis's Speed reduction. That overworld effect made it so Trainers would be sure to bring an Antidote or Pecha Berry just in case. IMO, it also added a bit of tension in the overworld if you were journeying and got lost in a cave or forest. You'd plan out your steps carefully to conserve the Pokemon's health until you managed to reach a Pokemon Center or similar area. :cer_nod:

oh i never knew about burns attack reduction..

MrGriszell October 24th, 2010 8:03 PM

Black and white runied it for me
 
So i wanted to take a brake from my pokemon white to play my HG that i put over 200 hours on, but i couldnt play it more than a moment. the main reasons is

1. ITS TOOOO SLOW!!!!!!

The battles take way too long(the text and the HP bsr goes by slowly), the bike is not as fast.

2. the pokemon stand still during battle

3. The soundtrack is not as good.

Has anybody else gone thru this?

Ho-Oh October 24th, 2010 8:06 PM

Merged with pros and cons because people will end up discussing the pros of B/W, when stating why B/W has ruined the previous games for them~

Plus your issues with HGSS should probably go somewhere in the HGSS forum, rather than here.

SandslashFTW October 24th, 2010 8:35 PM

All of the Pokemon need to be violently assaulted and killed with chainsaws.

Gary Oak FTW October 24th, 2010 8:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandslashFTW (Post 6245350)
All of the Pokemon need to be violently assaulted and killed with chainsaws.

I actually like a fair amount of them. Some of them look like they could be shinnoh pokemon.

fenyx4 October 24th, 2010 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandslashFTW (Post 6245350)
All of the Pokemon need to be violently assaulted and killed with chainsaws.

Yeah, you go ahead and just try chainsawing Reshiram, Zekrom, Zoroark, or Enbuoo, what with their menacing designs and innovative origins. I'll be waiting over here in Hoenn, thank you very much. :rambo:




...another con I noticed in BW are the shoddy move tutors. If you're not in a double or triple battle, there doesn't really seem to be a point to the Oath moves. The elemental Hyper Beams and Draco Meteor Meteoric Swarm are welcome standard additions, of course, but the only other tutored move seems to be Ancient Song, which is sort of unnecessary to be tutored as only one Pokemon can learn it (and it could have easily been a Level-100 learned move or something.)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 25th, 2010 6:42 AM

Wow some violent posts I just read...
Pros
Animated sprites
cool new legendary pokemon
Awesome starters
Looks like a great region to explore
Con:
No more pokemon following you around
Some pokemon looks weird but each gen has it's weird pokemon.

Greenbeans October 25th, 2010 6:57 AM

i would probably give it a 6 as well i mean like i would have waited another few months for the pokemon to just look cute u know i mean lke there is a point where they have to think it over a bit more

Zeph. October 25th, 2010 7:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerichob10 (Post 6246086)
i would probably give it a 6 as well i mean like i would have waited another few months for the pokemon to just look cute u know i mean lke there is a point where they have to think it over a bit more

I'm sorry, just... what?

Anyway, I digress. A pro for me is the new step they've taken with the franchise. Deciding to start afresh with an entirely new pokedex was a bold move, and I can't wait to check out what GF has offered us.

And Baffuron. Pro. That is all.

pieguy259 October 25th, 2010 9:02 AM

Pros:
Hiun City.
Reusable TMs, can I get a FINALLY.
Gyms, especially Raimon, Hodomoe and Fukiyose.
Hiun City.
Emonga. Sweet Arceus in Origin, Emonga.
Epic graphics.
Protagonists, especially the girl. Epic hotness.
Hiun City.
Hiun City.
An awesome plot.
Team Plasma in all its winitude.
Mijumaru.
Hiun City.

Cons:
Some of the designs wouldn't look out of place in Quartz.
No Dark-type Gym? Dang, yo.

Itstoppedatumbreon October 25th, 2010 2:05 PM

love the pokemon, just disapointed with balck city tbh. i thought it was cool but it not from what ive heard.
i might get white cosd it seems better than black

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 25th, 2010 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph. (Post 6246102)
I'm sorry, just... what?

Anyway, I digress. A pro for me is the new step they've taken with the franchise. Deciding to start afresh with an entirely new pokedex was a bold move, and I can't wait to check out what GF has offered us.

And Baffuron. Pro. That is all.

This is a pro for me too but kind of a con at the same time as we didn't get a Luvdisc evolution :(

iForever October 25th, 2010 2:55 PM

I haven't played the game, but the thing that disappoints me is the Pokemons. For example the Fire Starter, it doesn't look that good.

XxDeadShadowsxX October 26th, 2010 5:11 PM

Am i the only one that thinks...
 
Am i the only one that thinks that they are kinda bringing pokemon down the drain..? x.x
Im a huuuuuge pokemon fan its just i think they should of ended it after diamond and pearl. Idk.. It might just be me. ( Pokemon dont even look cool or cute any more they look like digimon in black and white...)

Amai October 26th, 2010 5:17 PM

Yes you are. [/sarcasm]

But they will never end Pokemon until people stop buying them. They don't make them for your enjoyment. They make them for money. If people will buy them, and Pokemon is more popular now than ever, then they will make them. They're a company, and that's what they do. They only care about money.

They still care if you like the game though, if you don't like it you won't continue buying. So they kind of need to care about you. Regardless, they want money. Not people's approval. So Pokemon will continue forever until the profits stop.

Zelda October 26th, 2010 5:22 PM

Please discuss the pros and cons of the two games here rather than creating a thread of a complaint. So, list and discuss your further opinions about B/W here. :)

XxDeadShadowsxX October 26th, 2010 5:41 PM

I say we all just you know don't buy this game! 8D Lol
But just wish they would end it.
They would most likely get more money if they just made remakes for all the older pokemon games.
Yellow,Red,Green,Rub,,Sapphire,Emblem..Etc
But ya..

Ho-Oh October 26th, 2010 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxDeadShadowsxX (Post 6249576)
I say we all just you know don't buy this game! 8D Lol
But just wish they would end it.
They would most likely get more money if they just made remakes for all the older pokemon games.
Yellow,Red,Green,Rub,,Sapphire,Emblem..Etc
But ya..

Actually, you mean Ruby and Emerald :x
...anyway, have you actually tried playing the games? Maybe if you played them and not concentrated on the Pokemon, you might enjoy them more! Apparently there are a lot of good things about the region itself.

Aro-kun October 26th, 2010 6:42 PM

Pros:
Kamitsure
Main legendary trio looks cool
Kamitsure
New York
Kamitsure
The whole team plasma situation
Kamitsure
Waaaaaay faster battles >:D
Kamitsure
Animated sprites
Kamitsure
RANDOM wifi battles >:D!!!!
Kamitsure
Re-usable TMs yay
Kamitsure
Dream world abilities

Cons:
The pokemon....I only like about 20 of em?
No pokomons following T.T WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!!!
Pokomons...Most of them dont look good imo but I accept them as pokomons

And I suppose that is all. I like it so far.


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