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Turnabout September 16th, 2010 11:01 AM

Pokedex Leaked
 
This hasn't been posted yet?

Full Isshu pokedex leaked!
http://www.pokexperto.net/index2.php?seccion=nds/blanco_negro/isshu_pokedex

WindBlows September 16th, 2010 11:06 AM

Omfg, that's all I have to say.

P.S. Serebii is your friend

Xander Olivieri September 16th, 2010 11:09 AM

Yes and no. They have posted "guessed" Pokedexes in other threads though.

Also I can't open the link. It tells me site doesn't exist.

Planetes. September 16th, 2010 11:11 AM

I think he might be trolling us....

Turnabout September 16th, 2010 11:12 AM

The site's experiencing major stress due to all the people rushing to it now.

Give it a mo, and you'll get through.

Opposite Day September 16th, 2010 11:12 AM

If you want trolling, go to pe2k and get going! :]

Confirming OP's link

Haza September 16th, 2010 11:13 AM

It's on Serebii now. It's a disappointment guys...

Pandesal September 16th, 2010 11:14 AM

It's up on Serebii, too: http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml



Overall, I am pleased.

Haza September 16th, 2010 11:15 AM

And I'd hate to be the one to say this but not only do half of the Pokemon actually resemble something out of DIGIMON but the Pokedex looks like the DIGIDEX XD

Planetes. September 16th, 2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turnabout (Post 6159043)
The site's experiencing major stress due to all the people rushing to it now.

Give it a mo, and you'll get through.

sorry for accusing you of trolling and thanks for the link. Eep, spoilers!

Turnabout September 16th, 2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6159054)
sorry for accusing you of trolling and thanks for the link. Eep, spoilers!

Haha, it's cool :3
I understand the pokedex suddenly leaking is a real shock lol

Chrisixx September 16th, 2010 11:19 AM

ok


there some pokemon that look really good. and then there some that look sooo bad... and i mean REALLY BAD!

=(

Planetes. September 16th, 2010 11:20 AM

THE BIGGEST DISSAPOINTMENT EVER. I WAS AGAINST PEOPLE RIPPING ISSHU POKEMON, AND I HATE MOST OF THESE ONES.
I GUESS BARO GOT A JOB WITH NINTENDO?

Co500 September 16th, 2010 11:21 AM

Just looked and some are horrible they looked rushed like the gear evos and the legend trio are awful and have the same base! the other legendaries look cool tho especialy the third mascot there are a few poke's I like tho

EDIT:looks like its heonn all over again

Bluerang1 September 16th, 2010 11:22 AM

I hate these Pokemon. This is like Johto for me. Region may be 'ite, but the Pokemon suck. I mean there are some great ones, but they're at the end/other half of the Dex so I have to use the carpy ones to further my game before I get the win ones. I hate all the extra bits some of these Pokemon have, who designed them? Some of them are better than I thought liek the Dark/Dragon. The Fire/Bug is win. Kurumori's evos is Win. Also the Grass Bellosum type one.

It will be hard putting together a team :\ I guess this is how some felt when they saw the Sinnoh Pokemon who I LOVE! Everyone to their own. Don't flame me too bad :P

And the Legendaries suck :\

Haza September 16th, 2010 11:23 AM

I didn't think I would be the only one who went in this entire time with a good attitude and was left completely annoyed and disappointed. I'm starting to only like the starters and legendary Pokemon.

Livewire September 16th, 2010 11:26 AM

Oh boy. :( some of these are.. well... just bad. im hoping official artwork comes out very soon. VERY soon.

Timbjerr September 16th, 2010 11:26 AM

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-147.jpg http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-148.jpg http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-151.jpg

These are apparently three different pokemon. Not three different formes, but three different pokemon. -.-

Perriechu September 16th, 2010 11:26 AM

I like most of the Pokemon. The legends are a let down though... not all but some.

The Trio of the game, that's a horrible Abomination look.

And the 3 Event Pokemon, I mean.... -.- but I love some of them like Meguroko's final evolution and a lot more .0.

dragoniteuser September 16th, 2010 11:26 AM

Dissapoitment is an understatment!

Turnabout September 16th, 2010 11:26 AM

I have to admit, some of these designs are crazzzyyy. And some look... very bad...
Although, they will look better in the official art.

The pokemon designs have changed drastically for this gen!
I think they could've done better with many of them.

LOVING Shimama and Meguroko's design's though!

WindBlows September 16th, 2010 11:27 AM



I also felt weird when I saw them, but then I thought: "Hey, it's a whole new region, so Pokémon species have to be very different, let's give them a chance. I'm sure all of us also felt weird when we saw Sinnoh Pokémon, Hoenn Pokémon, etc.."

I like them all except for the three genies and the Gear line. They are quite horrible. The rest of all look great and crazy. :D

Numbers September 16th, 2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisixx (Post 6159063)
ok


there some pokemon that look really good. and then there some that look sooo bad... and i mean REALLY BAD!

=(

This is how I feel too.

Though I feel the majority of them are bad but I do like some of them :)

Co500 September 16th, 2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 6159073)

That was what i was on about, I think they had lack of inspiration and got bored so they rushed out these, I hope they dont serve a main part in the plot I dont really want to see them in-game nor capture them!

Perriechu September 16th, 2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilite Darkrai (Post 6159080)



Hahaha, I'm joking.

I also felt weird when I saw them, but then I thought: "Hey, it's a whole new region, so Pokémon species have to be very different, let's give them a chance. I'm sure all of us also felt weird when we saw Sinnoh Pokémon, Hoenn Pokémon, etc.."

I like them all except for the three genies and the Gear line. They are quite horrible. The rest of all look great and crazy. :D

LOLOLOLOLOLOL the Picture made me laugh xD

Im with you about the Pokemon + the events other than that everything else looks amazing.

Chrisixx September 16th, 2010 11:33 AM

My likes:

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-1.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-2.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-3.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-9.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-18.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-34.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-36.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-70.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-71.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-77.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-92.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-102.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-116.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-117.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-118.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-133.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-134.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-137.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-143.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-149.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-150.jpg

so thats it

Timbjerr September 16th, 2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Co500 (Post 6159086)
That was what i was on about, I think they had lack of inspiration and got bored so they rushed out these, I hope they dont serve a main part in the plot I dont really want to see them in-game nor capture them!

Yeah...and to think that the first of those three is the pure-flying type fnas have been waiting for for all this time. :[

Other than those three though, the pokedex is alright imo. What's the deal with all the quadrupedal fighting-types though?

Cameo September 16th, 2010 11:35 AM

ARGH! I can't say anything else than that I hate GameFreak and especially SUGIMORI for letting us down this badly. No, not every new pokémon are that bad, for example I really do like Tsutarja's last evolution after all as well as I do like Yanakki, Baokki (I HATE THAT HIYAKKI!!!!!1 *rageeeee*), Mamepato's family, Dokkora, Gamageroge, whole Futsude's family, Monmon and Churine's families, I LOVE MEGUROKO and it's evos, Marakacchi, Ishizumai's family, Purotooga's family, Hitomoshi's family, Kibago's family, Kojofuu and Kojondo, Komatana's family and Meraruba's family. But the rest of the pokédex is completely garbage just like that one pokémon that is supposed to be a GARBAGE BAG WITH EYES AND HANDS. COME ON! The most disappointing was to see the new legendary pokémon such as that Dragon/Ice that looks like some freaking retarted snowflake gone bad or something. AND I HATE THAT KERUDIO that looks like a my little pony that has been drowned into a seaweed soup. But by far the worst is that Insekuta that looks like Samus would have had a baby with Predator and Alien had just thrown up on it. JUST HATE THESE!!!!1 Can't seriously believe this is the new generation and that this is everything that GF was able to pull trough. D: Anyone agree?

negative September 16th, 2010 11:36 AM

I have to agree with the most of here : I love this pokedex, but some of them are just...wrong or bad(like Chillarmy's evo). I am a little disappointed about some pokemon that don't look like actual pokemon. Ok, now the good sides: I never thought that Kibago would evolve in Ononokusu. Some types are unique here, and never before seen. And the concepts of the pokemon ARE original: like the ghost candles, aliens, gothic girls, ice creams, garbage bags, etc.

Kanto_Johto September 16th, 2010 11:42 AM

The ones that are good are amazing.

The ones that are bad are absolutely horrific.

Of course, this is talking from a design point of view.

All in all, I'm disappointed.

And does anyone else remember the Pokemon I posted the a few days ago in the Unconfirmed Pokemon thread? Well, turns out it isn't fan art:



Seriously. What. The. ****. Is. This. ****?????

Honestly, those who didn't like the starter's final evos are in for a big shock.

Cameo September 16th, 2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Scarecrow Toxin (Post 6159098)
I have to agree with the most of here : I love this pokedex, but some of them are just...wrong or bad(like Chillarmy's evo). I am a little disappointed about some pokemon that don't look like actual pokemon. Ok, now the good sides: I never thought that Kibago would evolve in Ononokusu. Some types are unique here, and never before seen. And the concepts of the pokemon ARE original: like the ghost candles, aliens, gothic girls, ice creams, garbage bags, etc.

I AGREE! I thought that Chillarmy's avo would be something like Skitty evolving into Delcatty and not like Chillarmy growing bigger and wearing some trashy furrthingy on it's back and stuff. Though those candles and aliens are original they doesn't share any characteristics of true pokémons. To me this is like digimon are coming to rape pokémon and now we have actually two different games and series in one little box. D: BAD!

Haza September 16th, 2010 11:44 AM

The fourth MUSKETEER looks like a My Little Pony...

Livewire September 16th, 2010 11:47 AM

These are win. The baby-wargle is freakin adorable.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-59.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-133.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-102.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-115.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-43.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-92.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-29.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-71.jpghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-141.jpg

Xander Olivieri September 16th, 2010 11:49 AM

Speak for yourself. I like this Pokedex. I think its the best one so far. So many new interesting Pokemon that aren't evos from previous gens or pre evos. So many new interesting type match ups.

Not to mention the new abilities, attacks, and battle systems. This game rocks.

Cameo September 16th, 2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6159103)
The ones that are good are amazing.

The ones that are bad are absolutely horrific.

Of course, this is talking from a design point of view.

All in all, I'm disappointed.

And does anyone else remember the Pokemon I posted the a few days ago in the Unconfirmed Pokemon thread? It's real:



Seriously. What. The. ****. Is. This. ****?????

Honestly, those who didn't like the starter's final evos are in for a big shock.

Well I didn't like those starter evos at all but when compared to the rest of the pokédex I must admit that I'd rather take all of those three starter families so that I don't have to take these COMPLETELY HORRIFIC ones. And btw that weird salamandergekkocreature is completely something that my friend could have drawn. Her doodles greatly look that when done in haste.

Kanto_Johto September 16th, 2010 11:51 AM

Agreed. I am so getting a Denchura. What a badass.

Looks like we have 2 Pseudos again, too. The 3 headed dragon you posted + Ononokusu. That would be my guess, anyways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameo (Post 6159113)
Well I didn't like those starter evos at all but when compared to the rest of the pokédex I must admit that I'd rather take all of those three starter families so that I don't have to take these COMPLETELY HORRIFIC ones. And btw that weird salamandergekkocreature is completely something that my friend could have drawn. Her doodles greatly look that when done in haste.

It looks like one of those characters from a show on Cartoon Network or something.

nm legend September 16th, 2010 11:52 AM

aww man it looks like IF i get the game... ima have to get emonga, kibago, komotana, monozu,and zorua fo my team and i dont know wat starter to get.....the pokemon look crazy...they look like there from another card game failure...but watever its just my opinion

Devil Flamingo September 16th, 2010 11:53 AM

Not sure if want... I am disappoint... Gonna stick to Smuglord and Grassdeer and Centipoison... not sure what else to get. >>

EDIT:

Oh god, the Grass/Steel has tentacles... I can hear it calling me, saying, "use me, you know I'm awesome even if I'm uglyyy" I AM CONFLICTED U GUYS.

takkunlove7 September 16th, 2010 11:53 AM

It's a new region with NO ties to the previous. Of course everything's going to be different and IMO I thought DPPt pokemon was horrible and still only have a few favorites as far as Sinnoh goes so...I like how they're trying to break out and most of them are GREAT! And I completely respect their artistic abilities and love how they're trying to basically compete with themselves.
Starter evos are real, yay! =]

Zaroas September 16th, 2010 11:54 AM

I actually quite like this Pokedex. Strange, I know, but I like their new, weird designs. I noticed that there are a lot more Fighting types and Bug types than usual, although there are a good amount of water types, which is kind of meh.
I also see some promise competitively here stat wise. For example, Desukan looks like a promising rapid spinner.

560cool. September 16th, 2010 11:54 AM

Boo. I hate most of those Pokemon.
Why ? Baro-designs, rushed stuff, no fire types.

And the fact that Pokabu's line in Fire/Fighting got me so enraged, I totally hate his line. I'll pick him and give him and Everstone. Why ? My cutie pig beats that big fat teenager. :-(

And I was expecting, lots, LOTS of this generation. Also, Tsutaja's line isn't part Dragon and Mijumaru's isn't part fight. I hate this.

Meh. One that I love is that candle Pokemon. And Meguroko isn't part-Dark ? I thought he had to be....

WindBlows September 16th, 2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameo (Post 6159096)
ARGH! I can't say anything else than that I hate GameFreak and especially SUGIMORI for letting us down this badly. No, not every new pokémon are that bad, for example I really do like Tsutarja's last evolution after all as well as I do like Yanakki, Baokki (I HATE THAT HIYAKKI!!!!!1 *rageeeee*), Mamepato's family, Dokkora, Gamageroge, whole Futsude's family, Monmon and Churine's families, I LOVE MEGUROKO and it's evos, Marakacchi, .... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Anyone agree?


Co500 September 16th, 2010 11:58 AM

maybe GF are losing their special touch?
If wheat I think may happen is a 3rd game for 3DS Ruby/Saphire remake for 3DS (sadly) and then a 1/2 year break or maybe a 6th gen then a break and come back with a reboot?

Hamilton September 16th, 2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 6159073)

yeah, those are just terrible- we were waiting how long for a PURE FLYING TYPE? i can't believe this is all the hype- i'm trying to lie to myself and say the rest are amazing, but really this is just meh
i guess i'll wait until i know english names to gate though
or until i play the game

Turnabout September 16th, 2010 11:58 AM

Sharin' my favs! I like a lot of them, but I love these~



No matter what happens, Desukan will make up for everything! <3333

Remember, in game when they are moving, they will look better, and the official art will be nice too!
Be positive!

Kanto_Johto September 16th, 2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 6159131)
Boo. I hate most of those Pokemon.
Why ? Baro-designs, rushed stuff, no fire types.

And the fact that Pokabu's line in Fire/Fighting got me so enraged, I totally hate his line. I'll pick him and give him and Everstone. Why ? My cutie pig beats that big fat teenager. :-(

And I was expecting, lots, LOTS of this generation. Also, Tsutaja's line isn't part Dragon and Mijumaru's isn't part fight. I hate this.

Meh. One that I love is that candle Pokemon. And Meguroko isn't part-Dark ? I thought he had to be....

Actually, this Gen has been pretty good to Fire. The last Gen only brought 3 fully evolved Fire types to the table. This time, we get 8. That's not too bad. The Fire type has never been common, anyway.

I'm also pleased that we haven't been bombarded with too many Water types for this Gen.

Poke'Master24 September 16th, 2010 12:02 PM

I have played Pokemon since it came out in the United States and I have bought and played every single version from Red to Soul Silver. I can honestly say this is the most dissapointing generation ever. Thr majority of these new pokemon are absoltely ugly in design and terrible. Some people were comparing these to Digimon, I'd say that would be a compliment. I am a subjective person, but these new pokes look rushed. It's really a shame. This is the first time I'v ever been dissapointed with an entire generation. I was worried when I started seeing the leaked pokemon, now that we have all of them, it is even worse. I'm sure some people will claim to like these, I just don't see how. IMO, this is the worst generation I have ever seen, many of the pokemon look goofy and pointless. I'm very confused.

Clefairies September 16th, 2010 12:04 PM

I'm fifty-fifty on these Pokemon.

I like some, am just baffled at some of the designs, but whatever.

I'm sure B&W will be interesting!

dragoniteuser September 16th, 2010 12:04 PM

There are so many abominations!
Really Baro, did you really have to send them your designs?!?
That dasutodasu looks like something a five-year old drew! My parrot craps better looking Pokemon than that!

[Your Name Here] September 16th, 2010 12:05 PM

Drip, drip, I hear the sound of something leaking.

Anyways, I like them all except the third Gear evo. They did the same thing with
Magnemite, only they added more Magnemite heads and made them fuse together
with Magnezone.

As with Toronerosu, Borutorosu and Randorosu, I'm okay with them.
I'm just disappointed that there aren't new Pomon from previous gen evolution lines.

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6159121)
Agreed. I am so getting a Denchura. What a badass.

Looks like we have 2 Pseudos again, too. The 3 headed dragon you posted + Ononokusu. That would be my guess, anyways.

Yeah they're both Pseudo's, although Ononokusu is much stronger. (base 147 Attack) Im catching Denchura's pre-evo the second i find one in-game.
Same with the blue toad+ Baby Wargle. Love.

Ooka September 16th, 2010 12:06 PM

They suck, but I'm still going to play my game until it breaks.

WindBlows September 16th, 2010 12:07 PM

IMHO, I think you guys are exaggerating.
It is not that they are losing their magic touch.
It is just that they didn't use the old style of palettes.
The new Pokémon don't have striking palettes.

One of the developers said that this game was turned to a more grown-up public.

I think they meant it in all of its aspects. Pokémon, story, characters, etc...

MrGriszell September 16th, 2010 12:08 PM

LOL now I know why N wants to release these pokemon. Some of these ....a face only a trainer could love

Spherical Ice September 16th, 2010 12:08 PM

Holy-- This is amazing. All of these are great, bar a few. I mean, how awesome is this?
http://i51.*.com/162a5ap.png

Project. September 16th, 2010 12:09 PM

Oh jesus. Some of these are just... horrific while a few on the other end are quite good. #518 looks like a fetus...

altariaking September 16th, 2010 12:09 PM

Ok, everyone who is sitting there saying "Waaahhh mummy!!! it disappoint it disappoint!"
Shut up.
Seriously, Gamefreak have spent four years creating these Pokemon, and for what? For some little kids on a forum saying they're a "disappointment". You don't like them? THEN DON'T PLAY THE GAME WHEN IT COMES OUT, AND STOP DISSING PEOPLES WORK THAT TOOK THEM SO LONG!!!![/angryrant]

Anyway, loving almost all of the new Pokemon, it's gonna be difficult choosing a team :D

Kanto_Johto September 16th, 2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6159112)
Speak for yourself. I like this Pokedex. I think its the best one so far. So many new interesting Pokemon that aren't evos from previous gens or pre evos. So many new interesting type match ups.

Not to mention the new abilities, attacks, and battle systems. This game rocks.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I actually really like some of the Pokemon from this Gen. Some of them just strike me as...well, really, really different from past Pokemon. Especially Pokemon like the one I posted a few posts before yours. It's probably something to do with the fact that we've only just seen them all, though.

I think I'm going with Tsutaja rather than Pokabu now. Tsutaja's final evo just looks awesome. Shame it isn't part Dragon type though.

Devil Flamingo September 16th, 2010 12:11 PM

...You cannot deny, though, that the Garbage Pokemon is, well, garbage. Literally. Seriously, Muk was better, and actually kind of appealing (idk about anyone else, but ever since Ash's Muk made a habit of covering people in sludgelove, I have found Muk cute). XD

Cameo September 16th, 2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takkunlove7 (Post 6159127)
It's a new region with NO ties to the previous. Of course everything's going to be different and IMO I thought DPPt pokemon was horrible and still only have a few favorites as far as Sinnoh goes so...I like how they're trying to break out and most of them are GREAT! And I completely respect their artistic abilities and love how they're trying to basically compete with themselves.
Starter evos are real, yay! =]

I don't see any COMPETING WITH THEMSELVES in these pokémon at all. To me it looks more like they've run out of ideas and money for good so they just put something into these games hoping that we would buy them and would love them like earlier ones. But obviously they didn't want to take the risk and reveal too much info and sprites before so we wouldn't realize how bad these truly are and NOT buy them. That's why they chose to let us see the only good ones and left the worst out for us to find out when we've paid like 50 to 60 euros or US dollars to get to play trough Isshu that is completely fused with these ugly digimons!!!!1 ARGH! I HATE THIS NAIVE TONE AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THAT! This generation was made only for money. If they truly did even want to try or make this better then they wouldn't have altered one sprite and used it as a three different pokémon. COME ON PEOPLE! GF failed for the big time and I may be raging a bit too much about this but I am disappointed tp what I see because I really truly really waited for these games. I wished they would be something cool and new but then they doesn't even care and do these weird ugly creatures that are clearly taken from GARBAGE and use them as pokémon. That's like an insult to us. To players who have supported Pokémon for years already.

PS. Meguroko rulez! XD

Itstoppedatumbreon September 16th, 2010 12:13 PM

this is got to be my fave gen ever (in terms of new pokemon) since the first 1!!!
the ice cream ones look so cool and the legendary trio wiv the pure flying type is the best 3 ever (even tho they are quite similar)

.:FreshX:. September 16th, 2010 12:14 PM

there are a few pokemon in this region that are good, but overall this is worse than Hoenn and Sinnoh's pokemon. The gear evolution is completely shot and the trio is pathetic. There is one thats based of ice cream and most of the evos are the same as the base pokemon. Overall, the Pokemon Co. failed at designing these.

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spherical Ice (Post 6159161)
Holy-- This is amazing. All of these are great, bar a few. I mean, how awesome is this?
http://i51.*.com/162a5ap.png

http://i51.*.com/162a5ap.pnghttp://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-120.jpg
Best Ice-family ever? I think so. :3

dragoniteuser September 16th, 2010 12:18 PM

I know that this isn't true, but i have a strong feeling that someone is trolling, and that all this leaked out PokeDex is just one big punked!
Some of the designs just look unbeliaveble to be true!
But I know it is since it's on serebii.... :(

spike6958 September 16th, 2010 12:19 PM

Ok....I am officially skipping the 5th Gen, these Pokemon look terrible.

GrifSpark September 16th, 2010 12:20 PM

I have fairly mixed reviews, but here's a rough list.

Some hounorable mentions-
Starters - They're all real, yay!
Meraruba/Urugamosu - A Bug/Fire-Type, something I've been waiting to see for a long time!
Baruchai/Barujiina - The first form isn't a favourite of mine, but the evolution should be worth it. Who doesn't love vultures?
Gobitto/Goruggo - Ground/Ghost? Sounds both contradictive and marginally awesome!
Kibago/Onondo/Ononokusu - Pseudo legendaries are always popular to everyone but me. This is all about to change :D
Bachuru/Denchura - Electric/Bug type. Need I say more?

Dissapointments-
No Fire/Psychic-Type? I was getting too hopeful.
Otamaru/Gamagaru/Gamageroge - The final form isn't too bad, but what were GM thinking with the first two? :(
Tabunne - No evolution? Wah!

Admittedly, apart from my Dissapointment list, I like all of them, which gives me hope for this Generation!

Pandemonioum September 16th, 2010 12:20 PM

Shanderaa, Agirudaa and Urugamosu are amazing, and lots of more are amazing too. Genies are not for me though, but they will grow on me.

I like Urugamosu most, Bug/Fire with amazing Special attack and good Speed.

And lol, the Dark/Dragon evolves first time in lvl 50 and second time in lvl 64!

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6159180)
I know that this isn't true, but i have a strong feeling that someone is trolling, and that all this leaked out PokeDex is just one big punked!
Some of the designs just look unbeliaveble to be true!
But I know it is since it's on serebii.... :(

That would be like, the greatest troll in history. xD

Silver25 September 16th, 2010 12:21 PM

I like them for the most part. As had been said before, there are quite a few really bad designs, but I like all the ideas for them. Hopefully all of them will look better once we get clearer images and some official artwork.

I really love the fossil evos! Especially the bird! Exactly what I have been asking for years!
And the turtle looks awesome as well! And another favorite has to be Warubiaru (Meguroko's final evo). He just reminds me of Koopas lol. Epic. Unfortunately the pseudo-legendary hydra looks awkward. Maybe it's the eyes...

Overall I'd say 7/10 for me at this point, but that may very well change. I mean I can't even make out what the ice/dragon legendary looks like. So hopefully we'll have some artwork real soon!

Storm_has_formed September 16th, 2010 12:22 PM

i like most of them... i hate the Gear line now though. Ugh it's so horrible

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrifSpark (Post 6159183)
I have fairly mixed reviews, but here's a rough list.

Some hounorable mentions-
Starters - They're all real, yay!
Meraruba/Urugamosu - A Bug/Fire-Type, something I've been waiting to see for a long time!
Baruchai/Barujiina - The first form isn't a favourite of mine, but the evolution should be worth it. Who doesn't love vultures?
Gobitto/Goruggo - Ground/Ghost? Sounds both contradictive and marginally awesome!
Kibago/Onondo/Ononokusu - Pseudo legendaries are always popular to everyone but me. This is all about to change :D
Bachuru/Denchura - Electric/Bug type. Need I say more?

Dissapointments-
No Fire/Psychic-Type? I was getting too hopeful.
Otamaru/Gamagaru/Gamageroge - The final form isn't too bad, but what were GM thinking with the first two? :(
Tabunne - No evolution? Wah!

Admittedly, apart from my Dissapointment list, I like all of them, which gives me hope for this Generation!

We have fire/psychic- Victini and the other form of Hihidaruma

MartinJF September 16th, 2010 12:24 PM

Love many of the pokemon! A few of them Are not very good (the tenkes, wtf? Will probably use the pure flying though)

Also, the two header dragon is pure win!

Cameo September 16th, 2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6159177)

OH JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR THAT IS SO FREAKIN'... HORRIFIC! I can't possibly understand how you can support something like that and claim it to be the best Ice-family ever?! Seriously?! Like SERIOUSLY?! I know my attitude is annoying and I'm ranting badly but that is completely HORRIFIC! My little brother who can't draw at all could do better polarbear pokémon than that. I COULD MAKE A GOD-LIKE POLARBEAR compared to that one. Like, what's gone into you people?!

WindBlows September 16th, 2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameo (Post 6159203)
OH JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR THAT IS SO FREAKIN'... HORRIFIC! I can't possibly understand how you can support something like that and claim it to be the best Ice-family ever?! Seriously?! Like SERIOUSLY?! I know my attitude is annoying and I'm ranting badly but that is completely HORRIFIC! My little brother who can't draw at all could do better polarbear pokémon than that. I COULD MAKE A GOD-LIKE POLARBEAR compared to that one. Like, what's gone into you people?!


http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/demotivational-posters-even-the-polar-bears.jpg
People like you don't deserve to have access to PC neither to technology.

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameo (Post 6159203)
OH JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR THAT IS SO FREAKIN'... HORRIFIC! I can't possibly understand how you can support something like that and claim it to be the best Ice-family ever?! Seriously?! Like SERIOUSLY?! I know my attitude is annoying and I'm ranting badly but that is completely HORRIFIC! My little brother who can't draw at all could do better polarbear pokémon than that. I COULD MAKE A GOD-LIKE POLARBEAR compared to that one. Like, what's gone into you people?!

I know you don't like them, but there are people who do. Remember these are sprites, wait til we get some official artwork. They'll look better.

nm legend September 16th, 2010 12:28 PM

you know wat...on a second look through most look alrite

dragoniteuser September 16th, 2010 12:28 PM

Well this seems like a perfect troll thread so bombs away!
The Polarbear looks awful! Look at those legs O.o, and it looks like it has a boner... weird!
And that Dasutodasu is probably the ugliest Pokemon ever! It looks like something that Swanna droped on somebody's car!

Aztekia September 16th, 2010 12:28 PM

I'm pretty much in love with most of these designs, a great Pokedex. A lot of you aren't exactly fans, and that's fair enough, personal opinion, but they might grow on you eventually. This Pokedex has made me want the games even more to be honest, seriously hyped for it now. Some seriously cute and pure win Pokemon here.

Haza September 16th, 2010 12:29 PM

Okay, I'm warming up to this generation. I just wanna start seeing video... maybe the Pokemon will be better in movement.

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nm legend (Post 6159210)
you know wat...on a second look through most look alrite

After awhile the shock-value will wear off and most people will come to like them. At least most of them. :) The only ones i don't like are the genies, but they'll grow on me a bit i hope. The allure of a pure flying type will be too much. ;D

Crig September 16th, 2010 12:31 PM

Well i have to say i like most of them. Really like Zorua and his Evo.
I just can't wait to get my hands on them.

Cameo September 16th, 2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6159209)


I know you don't like them, but there are people who do. Remember these are sprites, wait til we get some official artwork. They'll look better.

Okayokay, I stop ranting because of these horrific sprites. :'DD It's just that I really think these are a major failure. I really waited for something more pokémon(ish) like in Sinnoh and Hoenn where pokémon still were pokémon. Now many of these look like they've been done in haste. I apologize if I have been cruel and very aggressive but I really expected much from this generation. But anyhow I stop ranting now and look for the bright sides of these games. XD

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztekia (Post 6159212)
I'm pretty much in love with most of these designs, a great Pokedex. A lot of you aren't exactly fans, and that's fair enough, personal opinion, but they might grow on you eventually. This Pokedex has made me want the games even more to be honest, seriously hyped for it now. Some seriously cute and pure win Pokemon here.

I agree completely. I cannot wait until March for these. Ill go insane. :D I suddenly got REALLY bored of HGSS today too haha.

takkunlove7 September 16th, 2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameo (Post 6159173)
I don't see any COMPETING WITH THEMSELVES in these pokémon at all. To me it looks more like they've run out of ideas and money for good so they just put something into these games hoping that we would buy them and would love them like earlier ones. But obviously they didn't want to take the risk and reveal too much info and sprites before so we wouldn't realize how bad these truly are and NOT buy them. That's why they chose to let us see the only good ones and left the worst out for us to find out when we've paid like 50 to 60 euros or US dollars to get to play trough Isshu that is completely fused with these ugly digimons!!!!1 ARGH! I HATE THIS NAIVE TONE AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THAT! This generation was made only for money. If they truly did even want to try or make this better then they wouldn't have altered one sprite and used it as a three different pokémon. COME ON PEOPLE! GF failed for the big time and I may be raging a bit too much about this but I am disappointed tp what I see because I really truly really waited for these games. I wished they would be something cool and new but then they doesn't even care and do these weird ugly creatures that are clearly taken from GARBAGE and use them as pokémon. That's like an insult to us. To players who have supported Pokémon for years already.

PS. Meguroko rulez! XD

You are obviously not a game designer or an artist so you don't understand. I'm not naive and you seem to be the naive one here. If you don't like it, don't play it. Simple as that. They're making this DIFFERENT, obviously with different graphics and different characters. Our main characters are older and everything has a darker sense to them. They haven't run out of ideas. I believe it's true creativity to make a Pokemon out of an ice cream cone or a bag of garbage. They looked at something and evolved it. I've played Pokemon since it was first released and I still love it. I don't agree with most Pokemon but hey, I still play it and respect Sugimori and all those at GameFreak for entertaining me and respect their decision to go bold and put themselves on the line here. With each generation coming out, they haven't known whether or not the public would accept or not and they're doing the same with us. You have to have a a lot of guts as a game company to put your entire franchise on the line like that. They're risking the decision to make money or not. So no, they haven't created "crappy" pokemon to make money, they created it because they wanted to revive the franchise and they have succeeded.

Kanto_Johto September 16th, 2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by altariaking (Post 6159185)

No, this is me trying to shut up a bunch of four year olds who are crying because they didn't get the Pogemen they wanted, if you don't like them, then kindly leave, because all of you are being immature.

Voicing an opinion =/= Being immature.

Seriously, stop trying to look big by attempting to tell everyone off. I agree that people should wait and find out how useful these Pokemon can be before hating on them, but that's no reason to go off on someone and call them immature just because they think some of the designs suck.

.:FreshX:. September 16th, 2010 12:34 PM

after the shock of seeing them the first time weres off, u realize that this isnt half bad. though it does need improvement, i like the designs of alot of them. the pros outweigh the cons

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameo (Post 6159227)
Okayokay, I stop ranting because of these horrific sprites. :'DD It's just that I really think these are a major failure. I really waited for something more pokémon(ish) like in Sinnoh and Hoenn where pokémon still were pokémon. Now many of these look like they've been done in haste. I apologize if I have been cruel and very aggressive but I really expected much from this generation. But anyhow I stop ranting now and look for the bright sides of these games. XD

I know trust me I hated Sinnoh for awhile, but i eventually came to like them. I do agree some of them are pretty horrible. The legend Trio and the genies don't appeal to me much, but ill give them a shot. :D

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6159215)
Okay, I'm warming up to this generation. I just wanna start seeing video... maybe the Pokemon will be better in movement.

Some video + official artwork would be really great now actually. I hope they release it soon.

Hamilton September 16th, 2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrifSpark (Post 6159183)
Dissapointments-
No Fire/Psychic-Type? I was getting too hopeful.

hihidaruma has another form that's fire psychic :)
as for me, the shock value is wearing off and i think i'm in love with most of these :D

SIN1488 September 16th, 2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandesal (Post 6159049)

Kirikizan looks kind of like a Megaman villain. Not that that's a bad thing though.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 6159073)

Big deal, the lake trio basically looked the same too, but they are different besides the visual part.

Spherical Ice September 16th, 2010 12:43 PM

Everytime I decide "this is my favourite", I see a better Pokémon. I love so many of these:
Gen I > Gen V > Gen II > Gen III > Gen IV.

Pokémon-design wise.

Calder September 16th, 2010 12:43 PM

I can sprite better Pokemon than those crappy looking things and I suck xD Seriously wtf... The starters are also Mono-Typed except Pokabu being yet another Fighting... This Pokedex sucks the evolved forms suck everything sucks... I'm not buying Pokemon B/W anymore...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Spherical Ice (Post 6159254)
Everytime I decide "this is my favourite", I see a better Pokémon. I love so many of these:
Gen I > Gen V > Gen II > Gen III > Gen IV.

Pokémon-design wise.

I prefer this:
Gen 1 > Gen III > Gen II > Gen IV > Gen V

nm legend September 16th, 2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6159223)

After awhile the shock-value will wear off and most people will come to like them. At least most of them. :) The only ones i don't like are the genies, but they'll grow on me a bit i hope. The allure of a pure flying type will be too much. ;D

yea it happen to me for hoenn and sinnoh(finally guna get platinum soon too) and i agree with the genies they dont look that good.... but watever kinda excited now!

Cameo September 16th, 2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6159236)


I know trust me I hated Sinnoh for awhile, but i eventually came to like them. I do agree some of them are pretty horrible. The legend Trio and the genies don't appeal to me much, but ill give them a shot. :D

I actually loved Sinnoh from the very beginning. It was more Hoenn that seemed really annoying because it was completely different from Kanto and Johto generations. Never the less I will give a shot to these games because there are few really good ones too though. It's just a really big bummer after playing these games like eleven years or something already and now it is completely different.

And to those who think that I'm a n00b or just someone random idiot I must say that no I am not anything like that. I'm actually an artist myself and I do various other things too so that's why I was/still am shocked to see something like that but hey, they are just sprites in the end. The real art of these pokémon are yet to be seen so they might just change my mind. XD

Storm_has_formed September 16th, 2010 12:45 PM

i looked again, and I'm glad that my least favourite legendaries are the event ones... that way i won't be tempted to catch them!!!(legendary perfectionist)

Livewire September 16th, 2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm_has_formed (Post 6159266)
i looked again, and I'm glad that my least favourite legendaries are the event ones... that way i won't be tempted to catch them!!!(legendary perfectionist)

Which ones are event only? *adds them to no catch list* I do kinda like our goofy unicorn thing:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-153.jpg

coolnick37 September 16th, 2010 12:49 PM

They seem alrite, some are dumb, and wth is with the human legendary pokemon- girl with green hair, how the hell did that end up in a pokemon game, they must of confused and accidentally put it in there o.o

SIN1488 September 16th, 2010 12:49 PM

Also, how come the cat pokemon always have only one evolution?

AadmM September 16th, 2010 12:50 PM

I am in love with this Pokédex. The only ones I don't care for quite as much are the Ground/Ghost types and the Steel-type things that look like they're from Mega Man. Other than that, brilliant work! This is one Pokédex I'm strongly tempted to fill out as much as possible!

Doesn't surprise me that people are up in arms over this again, though. Happens every time :P

Haza September 16th, 2010 12:51 PM

Okay I love them now... that was fast. My favorites are:

1) Genosekuto
2) Pendoraa
3) Leporasudu
4) Yooterri
5) Warubiaru
6) Gochirozeru
7) Mebukijka
8) Denchura
9) Shibishirasu
10) Riguree (and Evo)
11) Kojondo
12) Wargle
13) Barujiina
14) Kuitaran and Ainto (The new Seviper and Zangoose?)
15) Biriiron


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