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I still think that the Pokemon are creative, half of the 5th Gen Pokemon are pretty good, the other half is utter crap (the garbage bag being the most literal example of "utter crap"), and then there are the clones, oh god, Emonga has to be the most unoriginal Pokemon to date, it's just Pachirisu with wings, nothing else, and it's as unoriginal as unoriginal can be, they could have given it a pre-evolution and evolution, but NO, they had to make it standalone just like Pachirisu, making it a worthless "novelty" Pokemon that just simply was made to take up space in your PC and not for anything else, if I had to take away two utterly terrible Pokemon (in creativity) from 5th Gen and replace them with a pre-evolution and evolution for Emonga, those two Pokemon would be Yoteri (because it looks too much like Growlithe) and Gigigear (it's just Gear with more gears)
outside of Emonga, we have Gear, which is..... let's just say that it could have been done a lot better, and given a better name than just "Gear", because it's two gears, not one, then we have Baniricchi and Banibaila (did I spell that right?), which are uncreative as sin, seriously, how do those things even stand with that super small tip on the bottom, let alone even WALK!? Then there is Baoppu, or should I say..... CHIMCHAR!!!!!! Seriously Nintendo, you already did a Fire Monkey the previous generation..... Finally, we have the roaming trio, it's fairly obvious where THESE guys came from, especially with the previous games being remakes of the Johto games of all things, I will always prefer the Ecruteak beasts over these pathetic imatators..... |
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These three seriously annoy me... It's just lazy... Not only are they awful designs, but they're literally the same sprite just recolored with a few minor details editted. This has been a problem since the fairy trio. GF Employee #1: Anyone have any good ideas for Pokemon? GF Employee #2: I know, let's make a genie Pokemon! GF Employee #3: We've said it a million times, that would just look ridiculous. GF Employee #2: It might fit in now, look at all the other Pokemon in this game! GF Employee #1: He's right.. Get on it! *Artwork is made, sprite is finished* GF Employee #1: Okay, next on the list is the second legendary trio... GF Employee #2: How about we make more genies!? GF Employee #3: Do I have to make separate sprites? GF Employee #1: Just go ahead and recolor the first one twice. |
many 5th gen pokemon are weird and ugly...
i think nintendo is out of ideas... for example, an ice cream pokemon?? nintendo is really out of ideas... |
Some of the Pokemon look alright to me but the others do look weird. Although Emonga is a clone of Pachirisu, it would have been great if they made it the second evolution form(Although I love Emonga) but some of them also look like Digimon as well.
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I personally like the Ice Cream Pokemon. It's cute. Maybe it's because I'm on the same level as the little six and seven year olds in which are just going to start their first Pokemon Journey, or would it be because I realize just that? I won't deny that I don't like some of the Pokemons' designs, such as the bag of trash, but I'm sure there will be some kids who like the design, because it is a bag of trash, just like with the Ice Cream. It's Ice Cream. They're six and seven year old. They're gonna like the idea of an Ice Cream Pokemon. Like several others have said 'it's because of the audience for today'. Pokemon isn't guided for us "nostalgia freaks" (and if it was, they would have quit, because we're just so damn picky, aren't we). It's the kids. I won't deny that I don't like some of the Pokemon myself, like the Genies, but let's look at it another way: a small little six year old may go 'OH HEY GENIES. :D' because have the other trios existed for him? Nope. The same goes for the Alien, the Megaman Looking one, the Robot, and so on. ( And just on a side note: Hitomoshi is my personal favorite. Yes, the one that was called 'the Candle'. ) |
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Hilarious. I totally laugh when I read this lol!!! Those are the worst legendary ever! |
ya, the ice cream ones, sarcophagus, chandelier and junk monster made me lol
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Lulz, I know I already posted here, but I just have one last thing to say...x3
Y'know, in the beginning, Pokemon were extremely UNcreative. Look at some of these 1st generation Pokemon! http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/89.pngLook at it! It's a pile of goo! And it's name is Muk. Just "muck" without the c. Yeah, that's really creative. http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/122.pngNothing really uncreative about the design, but the name... Mr. Mime. All they did was add Mr. to mime! That's not so creative either. T_T http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/100.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/101.pngOh, C'MON. It's just a Pokeball with eyes! Seeeee? Look at the old "original" Pokemon. They weren't creative at all! Geodude was just a rock with arms, and Squirtle looked like a regular turtle with a curly tail. xD Pokemon are becoming MORE creative now. They're almost always some type of reasoning for their design, and they're usually based off of Japanese folklores n' shizz. Of course, some 5th generation Pokemon are kinda uncreative. Like the trash bag...ice cream cones...the Pokeball mushroom... But most of the more uncreative Pokemon are just remakes of older ones. :3 |
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We can only hope that at least some of these will eventually be found to be related to the old versions (i.e. via evolution/breeding, not just because the Pokédex says so). Then they would be more acceptable. |
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As for what's been said about the genies, or diseased weathermen with tentacles coming out of their clouds, it's too true. This is my least favorite trio. Ever. I think that with the Lake Trio, the close similarities worked well with them. But with these guys, it's just too obvious that it was effortless. We could have had the electric one as the roamer and done away with the other two and just had the Musketeer trio remain. That would have been fine with me, and hell, maybe I would actually like it then. But no, there are three of them. |
I actually like the junk monster, the concept of it is kind of funny. I'm almost positive that Japan is making fun of how much garbage the US produces, with Isshu being based on New York and all.
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I think this generation the pokemon are the most creative.
eh each gen is different. |
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While these are the closest match of the pairs you mentioned, it's still easy to tell them apart because they have a completely different aesthetic to them. Baoppu is much more stylized and cartoonish than Chimchar and this is even reinforced further in their respective evolved forms. I'll concede to the Genie trio being conceptual ripoffs of the legendary beasts (Torneros = Suicune, Voltros = Raikou, and Landros = Entei), but at least you can tell them apart from eachother easy by their coloration and their respective typings, which is more than anyone can say about the Lake Trio. :/ |
The Ice Cream pokemon required some thinking to come up with and a bit of creativity so I do not think they are rtunning out of ideas. The Ice Cream pokemon was just a very odd choice to base a pokemon on.
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I'll say this from the start, I like some designs from each generation and I dislike some from each generation. There are also designs that I think are absolutely awesome (Gen IV starters) that I've seen lots of people dislike. The opposite is also true, where some designs a lot of people think are awesome, but I don't like it. I won't hold it against those people, and I would hope they don't hold the pokemon I like against me.
I also don't see the new pokemon as uncreative, because clearly there is creativity in the artwork itself. But I think the thing that really gets me with the new pokemon is the feelings they evoke. I've noticed that people get certain feelings when they see pokemon, and these feelings typically are not brought forth in the new designs (some of them are though). It does seem like many of them are over-drawn though, where they become almost confusing. Whereas something that is ugly to me (Munna) at least evokes the feeling of "Yeah, that's a pokemon." I also don't enjoy seeing so many pokemon that aren't exactly organic. This is partly to due with finding pokemon in the wild, or pokemon wearing clothes. It just feels off. |
Non-organic I can deal with....I love Metagross, and Aggron (which sounds like a train), and Rotom.....but which pokemon wears clothes? show me the sprite.
I do like the idea that gamefreak are having a laugh at the western world with the rubbish and ice cream....shame they didn't make a pokemon called "Big Mac(weird little "r" sign)". The only argument I can't personally understand is the "uncreative" part. Look at what happens all the time: Ostrich/Emu --add head-- Doduo --add head-- Dodrio Magnemite --add heads-- Magneton --morph slightly-- Magnezone Diglett --add heads-- Dugtrio Exeggcute --add body-- Exeggutor Dratini --gets bigger-- Dragonair Charmander/Squirtle/Bulbasaur --gets bigger-- Charmeleon/Wartortle/Ivysaur --gets bigger-- Blastoise/Venusaur Horsea --gets aggressive-- Seadra --gets bigger-- Kingdra Omanyte --gets bigger-- Omastar Slowpoke --gets eaten-- Slowbro/king Paras --gets eaten-- Parasect Weedle/Caterpie/Wurmple --copies real creatures-- their respective evolutions. Buizel --gets bigger-- Floatzel Riolu --gets bigger-- Lucario Mudkip/Treecko --gets bigger-- Marshtomp/Grovlye --gets bigger-- Swampert/Sceptile Seel/Spheal --gets bigger-- Dewgong/Sealeo --gets bigger-- Walrein Electrike --gets bigger-- Manectric Luxio --gets bigger-- Luxray (Shinx excluded as it has more colour variation between it and Luxio than Luxio to Luxray) Kricketot --gets bigger (and awesomelly weird cry)-- Kricketune Lotad --gets bigger-- Lombre --gets bigger/mexican/pineappley-- Ludicolo Seedot --turns into a tree-- Shiftry (Even sounds like "tree") Grimer --apears bigger (has the same weight)-- Muk I know a lot of those are Gen I, but that's because my brain generally thinks about them more as I'm playing Hg/Ss. Also, most of the pokemon I listed, I personally like, so I'm not having a dig at those pokemon....but seriously, un-imaginativeness is actually incredibly imaginative by not making preposterous evolutions too common... And I could go on...just there's a huge list....for example, all baby pokemon! |
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SandslashFTW, you need to tone it down. The thread isn't for flaming other people's opinions, and if you continue on this way, you'll be infracted for such. And please edit your post. I should already go ahead and infract you for censor bypass, but I'm feeling generous tonight.
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i guess 5th gen isn't that bad...
i'm starting to get used to seeing the pokemons... |
at first I thought Icecreamconemon was really lame, but you know I actually think he's pretty cute. also Plankmon, Girdermon, and Concreteblockmon I thought were weak sauce on Wednesday, but now I think they're pretty neat. Trashmon is my fav though. Sorry I totally don't keep track of the Japanese names.
The legendary dog trio though I feel is not so hot. |
Oohh....so now weearing clothes is wrong, is it?
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5f/Spr_4h_107.png So obviously not wearing clothes.... http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/64/Spr_4d_297.png not wearing clothes, is it..... http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/02/Spr_4h_124.png That's not a dress... c'mon, there're always pokemon that appear to wear clothes.....those're just 3 I can think of off the top of my head.... http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/59/Spr_4h_018.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2c/Spr_4d_277.png C'mon, in Hg/Ss they even have the same pose......Staraptor and Fearow are slightly more different, so they weren't posted here. I personally love both of them, they're never available in the same mainstream game, either......so it's fine. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a2/Spr_4h_016.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/6a/Spr_4h_021.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/14/Spr_4h_177.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/8e/Spr_4d_276.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4a/Spr_4p_396_m.png The first three even have the same species name....the first two are both Gen I, yet still look astonishingly similar! http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2f/Spr_4h_025_m.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f6/Spr_4h_183.png Marill was called "Pikablu"...... http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/97/Spr_4h_112_m.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5b/Spr_4h_034.png They're quite similar, aren't they? I know Nidoking/Queen are, but they're supposed to be related.... http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/8b/Spr_4h_111_m.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/56/Spr_4h_033.png Their pre-evos are still similar, aren't they? http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/7f/Spr_4h_014.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/48/Spr_4h_011.png So, in conclusion, even between Gen I/II, although less common than later generations, due to the way they were connected, there were pokemon that were startlingly similar/"remade". It even happened within Gen I...... And, aside from a few pokemon, Gen III/IV had a great pokemon diversity.....and once you got further along, Gen I/II did too! I'm not directly comparing Gen V pokemon, as I wish to remain spoiler-free.... |
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Tauros <-> Afrobull or Luvdisc <-> Heartfish aren't nearly as similar as Rhydon <-> Nidoking |
I agree this,i love the 1st generation ;D
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