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Pyrax October 16th, 2010 6:22 AM

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Why do people get angry at Rattata, Pidgey, Geodude, and Zubat?
Because they're everywhere.
(Up until gen V)

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Also, Mew and Mewtwo were epic, I don't know what you're talking about. Certainly better than the new Digimon-Transformers legendaries.

Yes, because some mutant cat thing is SO much better than a Pokémon that gives you nightmares. (sarcasm)
Please take off your nostalgia goggles and not buy any new Pokémon games.

Palantides October 16th, 2010 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6225999)
Oohh....so now weearing clothes is wrong, is it?

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5f/Spr_4h_107.png
So obviously not wearing clothes....

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/64/Spr_4d_297.png
not wearing clothes, is it.....

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/02/Spr_4h_124.png
That's not a dress...


c'mon, there're always pokemon that appear to wear clothes.....those're just 3 I can think of off the top of my head....

It's not that they're wearing clothes that's the problem (though the clothes are not at all detailed, and do not really stand out significantly), it's the feeling they give in regards to the clothes.

Nageki and Dageki seem to look out of place in their gi's while the three you've mentioned their clothing doesn't really detract from the overall feel.

Amore October 16th, 2010 7:49 AM

Well maybe you're getting the wrong vibes off them? :P

I'm sure the way gamefreak see them, the clothes suit perfectly.

Still, I was just pointing out that there are many designs involving clothes, or that look incredibly similar (such as purple poison rhino/grey rock rhino) before Gen V.

Thunder_Brew_07 October 16th, 2010 1:48 PM

I think Gen 5 is overall really creative and I'm happy with almost all of the designs. They all seem like really fresh and new Pokemon. I do think some of the bird Pokemon could be made to look a little more...unique in some way but all of the new Pokemon look different from old ones quite a lot.

I feel like a lot of people focus on whether or not a Pokemon looks "Pokemon-like" instead of just seeing it as it's own unique Pokemon regardless of how outlandish it might look.

Mijumaru123 October 16th, 2010 1:54 PM

Well, the Gen V were certainly creative in their own way, and have proved that Sugimori can survive developing five whole generations of Pokemon without running out of ideas. I do admit that the Pokemon are starting to lean more to the complex design of Digimons, rather than the original, simple designs.

Amore October 16th, 2010 1:56 PM

But then again....Victini?

That pidgeon? (incidentally, way more pidgeon-like than Pidgey - an example of the improvements between GB and DSi/3DS)

Some are still simple...such as the starters' original forms.

Overall, yes, they're more complex.

Clark October 16th, 2010 2:41 PM

On the topic of Gen5 Pokemon being "remakes" of old ones, I didn't really think so when I saw them all. Ignoring the typical Pokemon that occur once every gen anyways (early-game birds, Pikachu-clones, etc), of course. The thing about Gen5 is that the designers intentionally decided to forget about the previously "used" designs. Isshu is far from the other regions, and has little relation to any of them. Thus some of the "already used" animals and ideas could be used again. The new mole Pokemon are not Diglett clones; they merely happen to also be based on moles. Firemonkey isn't a Chimchar clone; it merely happens to be a Fire-Type monkey. I honestly don't think the designers were sitting around going HEY LET'S MAKE ANOTHER TAUROS or anything.

Palantides October 17th, 2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6226397)
Well maybe you're getting the wrong vibes off them? :P

I'm sure the way gamefreak see them, the clothes suit perfectly.

Perhaps, but you're still entitled to my opinion about not liking them :laugh: (though the majority of them I like. I think the only one I can actually say I hate, because it looks so ugly it's not even funny, is the garbage pokemon).

Andrew McKenzie October 17th, 2010 6:48 AM

People forget that each generation of Pokemon is coming from a completely different region.
Of course they're going to be drastically similar or drastically different.

Fact of the matter is.
You can't say they're run out of ideas.
Charmander is a lizard with fire. He's a salamander. His name consists of Char and mander, as in charcoal or to char something and mander from salamander.
What the hell is bulbasaur? He sure ain't anything I've ever seen to be honest.
And squirtle. He's a turtle. A turtle that swims on water and uses water.

I've been with Pokemon since the beginning but every generation we get these threads saying that the new generation sucks, or that the developers are running out of ideas or that they won't buy the games because the Pokemon look stupid.

Some people are just not willing to accept something new.
I mean, have you SEEN Sonic's fanbase? Sega gave them a game they've asked for for years and now they've completely bashed it. It's a good game.

Newer Generations of Pokemon aren't lacking in ideas or creativity, they're JUST DIFFERENT. Simple as.
After all. One cat isn't the same as another cat.
Each generation has a different type or style or a certain idea such as Bird, Dog, Cat Pokemon and the Starters.
But it still follows logic, it's a different region so it's going to have different variations of animals and completely different myths than the next region.

SandslashFTW October 17th, 2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyrax (Post 6226251)
Because they're everywhere.
(Up until gen V)

I was talking about the designs, not how often they appear in the wild.

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Originally Posted by Pyrax (Post 6226251)
Yes, because some mutant cat thing is SO much better than a Pokémon that gives you nightmares. (sarcasm)
Please take off your nostalgia goggles and not buy any new Pokémon games.

Really, is that all you Sinnoh fangirls can say? "Take off your nostalgia goggles hurr durr". Mewtwo is a badass ****ed up science experiment with insane psychic powers. When you bring up nightmares, I'm assuming you're referring to "Darkrai", the most overrated Sinnoh fangirl piss off legendary in all of Pokeworld. "OMG DARKRAI SO COOL!!!!111", dude, there's nothing special about him, just some ghost queer that they decided to call a legendary because after Gen 2 GameFreak decided to make 9000 legendaries for each game.

Pyrax October 17th, 2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SandslashFTW (Post 6229145)
I was talking about the designs, not how often they appear in the wild.


Really, is that all you Sinnoh fangirls can say? "Take off your nostalgia goggles hurr durr". Mewtwo is a badass ****

Oh look, unprovoked sexism just because I posted my opinion.

Timbjerr October 17th, 2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SandslashFTW (Post 6229145)
Really, is that all you Sinnoh fangirls can say? "Take off your nostalgia goggles hurr durr". Mewtwo is a badass ****ed up science experiment with insane psychic powers. When you bring up nightmares, I'm assuming you're referring to "Darkrai", the most overrated Sinnoh fangirl piss off legendary in all of Pokeworld. "OMG DARKRAI SO COOL!!!!111", dude, there's nothing special about him, just some ghost queer that they decided to call a legendary because after Gen 2 GameFreak decided to make 9000 legendaries for each game.

My, what a shining beacon of eloquent debate we have here. I feel my brain cannot comprehend the massive amounts of logical and objective arguments present herein. :/

Darkrai isn't any more or less creative than any other legendary. It's an adaptation of certain real-world myths...most likely the idea of a Bogeyman or its Japanese equivalent (whose name escapes me at the moment) with impressive stats and a nearly-broken signature attack. Yes, you're allowed to think that Mewtwo is and always will be the god of the Pokemon universe, but is it so hard to accept that people actually like pokemon from GenIII onward? At this rate, you're not really helping your side of the debate, just making GenI purists look like some kind of bigoted bully. XD

Charizard★ October 17th, 2010 12:22 PM

The new Pokemon are just as creative, but I don't seem to like them much.

Sydian October 17th, 2010 12:31 PM

Well guys, since we can't keep a civil conversation going in this thread, you can all kiss it goodbye. Someone feel free to make a new one when we can be good boys and girls.

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