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Planetes. September 18th, 2010 12:41 PM

Nintendo Taking action?
 
We just got a letter from Nintendo (edited to remove personal info obviously) asking to take down all of our Black and White images or bad stuff will happen. I called the lawyer who sent the letter and he said he'll be making the rounds on other Pokemon sites as well and that they're doing an investigation. I was first on their list. I'm about to go out while Bangiras plays the game due to a family emergency but I have 24 hours to remove the images. Joy! Anyways, we'll continue to play the game and report what we find like we've been doing. Oh and the lawyer said he likes my site. :p
From Pokebeach.com

So what do you guys think of this-all our bw information could dissapear, I don't condone anything illegal but I suggest we gather as much info as we can find before it all is gone until far later.
Oh yes if you go to pokebeach you can view the letter

Mew~ September 18th, 2010 12:44 PM

Well it's all wrong really, if we keep this up Game Freak will eventually go bankrupt and we will have no more Pokemon :(

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 12:47 PM

Well the same thing happened for the Manga sites I guess now it's the Pokemon companies 0_0...it's odd because I had a thought of what would happen if game freak was like the Mangaka writers and now it has come true 0_0...

Spherical Ice September 18th, 2010 12:49 PM

Judging by the actual letter, there a quite a handful of grammar mistakes which makes me think that this may be a hoax, either from Pokébeach (a prank) or someone else. In the letter, the address to Pokébach is coloured cyan, but no hyperlink is given. Why would a letter, if it was written, be in blue, and why would an e-mail from a seemingly professional company be weird and just colour it. Also, you don't start a letter with "Dear Sir or Madam:", but with "Dear Sir or Madam,". I would imagine NoA to be a lot more professional than this.

So yeah, I think this is a hoax.

If it's true, than that means PC is gonna be spotted soon and all us ROM Hackers are gonna be screwed...yeah, I doubt this.

WarpstarX September 18th, 2010 12:58 PM

Well they can't really stop us it's like LP's or Fan art (or even Rule 34 O_O) I mean hey that's the internet for you.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 1:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarpstarX (Post 6164584)
Well they can't really stop us it's like LP's or Fan art (or even Rule 34 O_O) I mean hey that's the internet for you.

Well they will probably still try if true like the Mangaka authors did before them...

Logiedan September 18th, 2010 1:02 PM

Why would they target us? Pokécommunity is a fan site and we already stated that the images,characters and such belong to Pokémon and Nintendo.
Spoiler:

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idontsparkles September 18th, 2010 1:06 PM

Seems odd..

I believe from a legal standpoint, its because technically the game isn't available outside Japan yet, so most of the information will have come from those using Roms, hence why Nintendo is stepping down on it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idontsparkles (Post 6164609)
Seems odd..

I believe from a legal standpoint, its because technically the game isn't available outside Japan yet, so most of the information will have come from those using Roms, hence why Nintendo is stepping down on it.

Though it's kind of odd why they are doing that now and not in gen 2,3, or 4...

Planetes. September 18th, 2010 1:08 PM

GUYS! The purpose of showing you this wasn't THERE COMING FOR PC OMG OMG OMG, it was to show you that all of our info could be taken down. Yikes.
Now lets get back on the ON-TOPIC train here.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6164614)
GUYS! The purpose of showing you this wasn't THERE COMING FOR PC OMG OMG OMG, it was to show you that all of our info could be taken down. Yikes.
Now lets get back on the ON-TOPIC train here.

Yeah I know but why are they trying to take down all the Bw info now they should have started before...

Resultz September 18th, 2010 1:24 PM

I think to be honest, serebii would be more famous for info than PC.

Im gonna monitor Serebii as an early warning.

IF this isnt a hoax, i suggest making a document with all the pictures and info on and saving, then uploading onto a filesharing site, and posting in a seemingly unlikely topic in Current generation gaming .

That said, Nintendo would NOT want to get into a legal battle with the internet before the release of one of its major games.

Crig September 18th, 2010 1:27 PM

Well, i'm always on /tr/ so there is nothing they can do about it lol

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resultz (Post 6164656)
I think to be honest, serebii would be more famous for info than PC.

Im gonna monitor Serebii as an early warning.

IF this isnt a hoax, i suggest making a document with all the pictures and info on and saving, then uploading onto a filesharing site, and posting in a seemingly unlikely topic in Current generation gaming .

That said, Nintendo would NOT want to get into a legal battle with the internet before the release of one of its major games.

Well Serebii has so far said nothing so maybe it is a hoax...

Daikenki September 18th, 2010 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spherical Ice (Post 6164568)
Judging by the actual letter, there a quite a handful of grammar mistakes which makes me think that this may be a hoax, either from Pokébeach (a prank) or someone else. In the letter, the address to Pokébach is coloured cyan, but no hyperlink is given. Why would a letter, if it was written, be in blue, and why would an e-mail from a seemingly professional company be weird and just colour it. Also, you don't start a letter with "Dear Sir or Madam:", but with "Dear Sir or Madam,". I would imagine NoA to be a lot more professional than this.

So yeah, I think this is a hoax.

If it's true, than that means PC is gonna be spotted soon and all us ROM Hackers are gonna be screwed...yeah, I doubt this.


I could not agree more with this post. I noticed the errors also. I may not be an English Major, but if you're going to represent a company then you should know how to write a letter.

And like others have said "why are they doing this now?" This is what I want to know too. Sure I only began checking these pokemon sites after HG/SS came out, but serebii and pokebeach and etc., have been posting information since early this year! Why now? Not to mention most of these people have the go ahead to post information. Or at least leaked information. I remember someone on this forum saying that serebii was allowed to leak so and so much before the game was out.

I believe this to be some malicious person who has nothing better to do with their time than to fake their entire identity just to troll a few good people. :/

sirboulevard September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daikenki (Post 6164673)



I could not agree more with this post. I noticed the errors also. I may not be an English Major, but if you're going to represent a company then you should know how to write a letter.

And like others have said "why are they doing this now?" This is what I want to know too. Sure I only began checking these pokemon sites after HG/SS came out, but serebii and pokebeach and etc., have been posting information since early this year! Why now? Not to mention most of these people have the go ahead to post information. Or at least leaked information. I remember someone on this forum saying that serebii was allowed to leak so and so much before the game was out.

I believe this to be some malicious person who has nothing better to do with their time than to fake their entire identity just to troll a few good people. :/

I received word from a friend in the know that Serebii received the email as well. This may very well be real.

Spikey-Eared Pichu September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM

It IS real. Serebii has stripped his site of all B/W images.

Iceshadow3317 September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM

The info is everywhere they can't really stop it. There is info even on non pokemon sites.

Daikenki September 18th, 2010 4:00 PM

I leave to take a nap and then this all happens. -facepalms-

spike6958 September 18th, 2010 4:03 PM

This is pretty stupid, getting to see areas and features from the game on sites like Serebii, makes the long waits for the games to be released in the West a bit more bearable, and also makes us want to buy the games even more, the only reason for them to want to stop this is if they are embarrassed by what they have made, because if it was any other reason they would have stepped forward long before now to say something.

Natester September 18th, 2010 4:08 PM

I seriously hope that this letter is fake. I would be really really upset if serebii.net got shut down due to copyright infringment. Butthurt lawyers.

But all in all, I expect this to blow over pretty soon.

sirboulevard September 18th, 2010 4:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike6958 (Post 6165205)
This is pretty stupid, getting to see areas and features from the game on sites like Serebii, makes the long waits for the games to be released in the West a bit more bearable, and also makes us want to buy the games even more, the only reason for them to want to stop this is if they are embarrassed by what they have made, because if it was any other reason they would have stepped forward long before now to say something.

This started about 7 months ago. I'm part of the Metroid fandom as well and we got hit with this first. In march someone recorded the intro to Other M on their iPhone at a private screening and uploaded it to YouTube. One of the webmasters of on the fandom sites actually met Yoshiro Sakamoto (the guy who made the game) at a conference and asked how that made him feel. He said that he felt betrayed and that many people at Nintendo had felt it was the last straw and that they were going to start shutting down early spoilers of things because they would rather someone have the game in their hands than read about it online and make their opinion there. He also said they wished they didn't have to do this, but they felt they were finally starting to have real issues with people doing these sorts of things and that the leniency we've enjoyed on both sides is likely ending.

Likely, this will continue with all Nintendo franchises for a while, especially so close to the 3DS release.

Resultz September 18th, 2010 4:11 PM

serebii wont get shut down.
Admin there is still making a diary of events in the game.

the only reason i can see for this timing is strict internet laws in japan, ence them being oblivious to the commotion theyre causing.

othewise im lost for words.

StratusJm September 18th, 2010 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resultz (Post 6165236)
serebii wont get shut down.
Admin there is still making a diary of events in the game.

the only reason i can see for this timing is strict internet laws in japan, ence them being oblivious to the commotion theyre causing.

othewise im lost for words.

its on serebii now and i think pictures have been taken down. rather pointless thing for nintendo to do. the pictures made me want the game more

Zeturic September 18th, 2010 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey-Eared Pichu (Post 6165160)
It IS real. Serebii has stripped his site of all B/W images.

That statement isn't even remotely correct. It was done because it might be real.

If I went up to someone buying a can of soup and told them that that can, and only that can, had one extra ingredient - Cyaninde - so, unless they feel like dying that night, they should pick a different can, they do so, and don't die, would you say that proves that the first can actually had Cyanide?

The eating Cyanide (and subsequently dying) in my example is just like leaving up the information and dealing with the legal consequences. The action of switching cans is just like the action of taking down the information. The not dying is just like not having any legal repercussions.

Serebii is acting under no assumptions other than it could be true. In other words, what happened was because of a "just in case" type of mindset.

Also, I'd like to point out that it being real and him taking down the stuff is essentially equivalent to it being fake and him taking it down, as, in both cases, no legal repercussions ensue.

I love how I wrote out 5 paragraphs in response to a 12 word post, and didn't even mention how I personally feel about the topic.

spike6958 September 18th, 2010 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirboulevard (Post 6165234)
This started about 7 months ago. I'm part of the Metroid fandom as well and we got hit with this first. In march someone recorded the intro to Other M on their iPhone at a private screening and uploaded it to YouTube. One of the webmasters of on the fandom sites actually met Yoshiro Sakamoto (the guy who made the game) at a conference and asked how that made him feel. He said that he felt betrayed and that many people at Nintendo had felt it was the last straw and that they were going to start shutting down early spoilers of things because they would rather someone have the game in their hands than read about it online and make their opinion there. He also said they wished they didn't have to do this, but they felt they were finally starting to have real issues with people doing these sorts of things and that the leniency we've enjoyed on both sides is likely ending.

Likely, this will continue with all Nintendo franchises for a while, especially so close to the 3DS release.

So basically Nintendo want us to pay money for a game without knowing anything about it, thats pretty lame and kinda makes what I said seem more true, they are worried that if people see screenshots/videos they'll see that the game actually isn't very good, I mean if you have made something awesome why would you want to hid it from the people who'll buy it? To me it's simple you wouldn't.

Zeturic September 18th, 2010 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike6958 (Post 6165257)
So basically Nintendo want us to pay money for a game without knowing anything about it, thats pretty lame and kinda makes what I said seem more true, they are worried that if people see screenshots/videos they'll see that the game actually isn't very good, I mean if you have made something awesome why would you want to hid it from the people who'll buy it? To me it's simple you wouldn't.

Assuming for a moment that the letter is real, there are a couple reasons.

The first isn't truly a reason, but they own the series, so they can do what they want. End of.

The main reason, however, I believe, is the same thing that most of their decisions are made for - money. Most people who visit Pokemon sites were planning on buying it to begin with. How many people would go from not really wanting to buy to a "OMG! Best game ever!! Must get!" mindset because of some screenshots, as compared to people who weren't really planning on it, but might have, and seeing it and deciding they hate it and decide not to buy it, even if they would've liked it if they'd tried it.

I really could've phrased that better. Indeed, I'd be hard pressed to find a worse way to phrase it. However, with any luck, my point was still conveyed.

BCKC September 18th, 2010 4:39 PM

Couple errors here and there in the "official document" like others have stated. I also noticed that whoever wrote it pressed enter completely unnecessarily after every line o.O

Anyway, I hope this is a hoax. The letter just doesn't seem official...

Off topic: Holy crud my new sig is long. better put it in spoilers

King Gumball September 18th, 2010 4:41 PM

Serebii got the letter so Joe had to take down the images too.

Timbjerr September 18th, 2010 4:47 PM

Hey guys, stop overreacting.

If this is all real, is it really that unreasonable for Nintendo to request this of the major Pokemon fansites? Legally, they are in the right. They own the copyright to the Pokemon franchise and all the characters and settings thereof. At least they're giving the sites a chance to stay up by taking images down instead of just closing the website completely. >_>

SIN1488 September 18th, 2010 4:54 PM

Hopefully this is bull and Serebii is just re-upping the pokedex with clearer images. Lol Nintendo, y u stab me? >_<

Also, *hides ice-cream cone in sig* >_>
<_<
>_>

Devil Flamingo September 18th, 2010 5:31 PM

What's this? Am I smelling BS here? Oh...! Yes, I think I am. My BS-detecting nose sensors are going off!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/Dark_Espeon/Fun-Pix/548749-20090831140449.jpg

"HI!!! I'M AN OFFICIAL PERSON WHO DOES OFFICIAL THINGS AND I ORDER YOU TO TAKE DOWN YOUR IMAGES!!! BECAUSE I SAY SO OFFICIALLY!!!" (the point of this lolpic being, just because Sarah Palin is a political figure with some form of status does not mean the BS that comes out of her mouth has to be taken as factz)

lolno. I can't believe people fell for this. I don't give a damn who you here, but if you're gonna send me a SERIOUS BUSINESS letter or email, it had damn better be in flawless English or flawless French or I won't take you seriously. I don't give a Pikachu that English/French isn't your first language; that's what translators, editors, dictionaries and spellcheckers are for. Anything less than that is just not real to me, sorry.

Now I don't know about Japan and their standards, but here in Canada, no company would ever send an official document to anyone, not even to some lowly employee, in anything less than perfectly correct English or French, and if/when they do, they lose credibility. No1currs that you don't speak/write French or English as your first language; even for something that doesn't require brains (like McD's, to which I applied and currently work at) your resume has to be in good English.

So I find it EXTREMELY HARD to believe that one of the biggest gaming companies in the entire world couldn't be arsed to get someone who actually speaks English and not just speaks English but knows about Western writing standards to type up the official letter or email and send it to Serebii and Pokebeach. Why the formatting/grammatical/spelling mistakes? You shouldn't care about whether the receiver has standards or not; you should care about your own standards.

Days ago I got an email from a small Korean company who contacted me about a Korean DVD I ordered with them, and they managed to write in damn fine English (the "tone" was slightly awkward, but I attributed that to cultural differences). Why is a Korean DVD company writing an email to little old me in perfect English, but GF/Nintendo is writing one to PokeBeach/Serebii in less than that? The same is true of site like PlayAsia and YesAsia.

I'm telling you, this is BS. They didn't care before, why care now? In a week or two a lot of kids like me will actually own B/W and there's nothing anyone can do to prevent me from uploading fanart, custom sprites, screenies, images and so on and so forth to my LJ, and/or send them via MSN and Gmail.

This is a hoax if I've ever seen one, and if I owned a Pokemon site, I'd be like, "lol, try again. You send me a letter/email in perfect English and maybe, MAYBE then I'll believe you".

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/Dark_Espeon/Fun-Pix/bhsnr.gif

^ SpongeBob & co. are NOT impressed with this failhaxxx.

Maxite September 18th, 2010 5:32 PM

Meh... I have the images I need already saved (which is just the new Pokemon images). A bit of a bummer that a C&D is going around, but even if it's fake, I still say "better safe than sorry."

Hopefully it's revealed as a fake.

SIN1488 September 18th, 2010 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxite (Post 6165450)
Meh... I have the images I need already saved (which is just the new Pokemon images).

Hopefully it's revealed as a fake.

I'm mad because all I saved was that freakin ice-cream cone. :disappoin

I hope it's fake too! >_<

fenyx4 September 18th, 2010 5:58 PM

It appears to be fake... Ambi Pom-Pom of PokeBeach posted a good argument regarding the document. But simply assuming that the notice is invalid can only hope to land one in a world of legal trouble... :( I noticed Serebii removed BW images as a preemptive action...

IIRC, someone from the anime did an interview with someone of PokeBeach, and since Nintendo is affiliated with the anime, they have likely known about the site (as well as others) for a long time. Prerelease HGSS images were posted on PokeBeach and other fansites, and Nintendo didn't have a problem then, so apparently Nintendo must be OK with the whole thing, as long as the fansites do not make profit off such images.

And really, these fansites are helping Pokemon in a sense via "promotion" that Nintendo doesn't even have to pay for. Thousands of fans outside Japan are already stoked and set to buy the game, despite some "perceived flaws". And even still some are waiting for the third version of BW that hasn't even been ANNOUNCED yet (myself included). :D

I understand the property is Nintendo's, so they have all of the right to send out such notices. But really, as far as I see it, no "substantial damages" are going to be incurred by Nintendo if Pokemon fansites continue to propogate information that 'tides us over' until other localized releases come to fruition. None of the fansites are even trying to tarnish Nintendo's name/image; in fact, they're doing the opposite.

The only possible trouble that could arise is regarding the ROM sites, and a lot of Pokemon fansites I've seen have explicitly forbidden discussion of such items. Not to mention that most people tend to buy the actual games anyway...

And if the letter is fake, I hope whoever wrote it does get reported and punished, because it is just wasting everyone's time. I had thought Bulbanews had posted another BW article, but instead I encountered this mess...

EDIT: And I just noticed how the letter refers to Nintendo as "we" in the first paragraph, yet calls themselves "me" in the last paragraph. So that must be one of the several grammatical/typographical errors being referenced by others... :\

JP September 18th, 2010 6:11 PM

I don't believe it to be real. Ambi Pom-Pom's post on Pokebeach sold me. It's quite obvious a professional entity wouldn't be sending out letters with things as simple as grammatical or spelling errors.

Åzurε September 18th, 2010 6:19 PM

So prolly a hoax, but the man took 'em down as a preventative measure.

And you know, why would Nintendo (or Pokemon Company, I'm really not sure) ask to take down all the images on sites that generate and express interest in a money-printing franchise like this anyways? I've heard of artists and companies who encourage the creation of fan art and even Rule 34 on their intellectual property. It's a sign that you have a following.
Or that interwebs is being spiteful, but that's different.

Dillon_68 September 18th, 2010 6:45 PM

This is pure crap, Nintendo just lost major cool points with this one...

Utahraptor September 18th, 2010 6:55 PM

So far, I'm inclined to believe that this is a hoax. As the others have put out, taking action against the fansites hurts Nintendo more than helps. The images have already been leaked, and can be found easily anywhere on the internet. Heck, there are already a couple Youtube walkthroughs posted. If Nintendo were to call for a recall of these leaked images, they would have done so in the beginning. At the very least, they would have permitted the pictures that were officially announced to remain posted.

TL;DR: This is pure BS and I'm just going to sit back and watch as this letter is proven a hoax, thus allowing all the pics to be reposted.

Planetes. September 18th, 2010 7:10 PM

okay, well I haven't seen ambipom's post, but if you guys say its fake, I believe you. Sorry for wasting your time, I just was posting the latest.
But I can still see why nintendo would be mad-the roms got leaked damn quick.

Livewire September 18th, 2010 7:14 PM

It's an elaborate hoax, the letter is chock full of typo's and the legal jargon inserted into it makes no sense. I have Lawyers among my friends and family, and that looks like no affidavit or notice ive ever seen. An elaborate hoax, nothing more.

Here-

Spoiler:

VIA EMAIL
URGENT & TIME SENSITIVE: IMMEDIATE ATTENTION REQUIRED
September 18, 2010
Registrant
PokeBeach.com
RE: Infringement of Nintendo of America Inc.’s Intellectual Property Rights

Dear Sir or Madam:

We are legal counsel to Nintendo of America Inc. (referred to here, with its parent and affiliated
companies, as “Nintendo”). As you are no doubt well aware, Nintendo is one of the world’s
leading developers and distributors of video game products. The Pokémon franchise is one of
Nintendo’s most popular game series, and the upcoming release of the Pokémon Black and
Pokémon White video games has garnered significant media attention. The intellectual property
associated with the games, including the copyright in the underlying software code, visual
depictions of the games, and characters found within the games, is the subject of copyright
protection in the United States and abroad.

We recently learned that you have posted screenshots and other protected content from the
Pokémon Black and Pokémon White games to your website at http://pokebeach.com. While
Nintendo appreciates your interest in and support of the Pokémon game series, your publication
of this content infringes Nintendo’s copyrights in violation of federal law. Your activity also and
has the potential to cause substantial damage to Nintendo, and leaves Nintendo with no choice
but to take steps to protect its intellectual property rights.

We have accordingly submitted a copyright infringement notice to your domain registrar under
the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and anticipate that your website will be taken down shortly.
We encourage you to immediately remove from your website all graphics, screenshots, and
other protected content taken from the Pokémon Black and Pokémon White games. Going
forward, you must also refrain from posting any screenshots, videos, or other content that
infringes Nintendo’s rights in the Pokémon series or any other game.

Your full and immediate compliance with the foregoing should render further action on
Nintendo’s part unnecessary. It is essential that we receive your written response confirming
that you have taken these necessary actions by Sunday, September 19, 12:00 p.m. PDT,
however, or Nintendo will have no choice but to consider its alternative legal remedies.

PokeBeach.com
September 18, 2010
Page Two

Please contact me if you would like to discuss this matter in further detail. Nothing stated herein
shall constitute a waiver of any rights or remedies of Nintendo of America Inc., its parent or
affiliated companies, all of which are expressly reserved.

Very truly yours,
X

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 7:16 PM

It's most likely a hoax or nintendo lawyers need to go to grammar school...

●•ΛΣЯӨЩ•● September 18th, 2010 7:17 PM

Gah, Why would they start now?
If they did wanna stop people, them must have started this a long time ago...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ●•ΛΣЯӨЩ•● (Post 6165806)
Gah, Why would they start now?
If they did wanna stop people, them must have started this a long time ago...

I'm not sure but they did the same thing in Manga site recently so I'm guessing Japan creators want to target the internet so people can buy their stuff...also they might beleive that the images come from the roms...

countryemo September 18th, 2010 7:23 PM

k i just read it, i didnt see any or much errors. but i would do it myself as im not good at this stuff. but reading it, i think its fake.

hey, i see pokebeach has images still. haha.

The Red Chain September 18th, 2010 7:27 PM

I don't think it's a hoax guys.

Look at Serebii. This page was chock full of all the Isshu Pokemon's pictures. They are all gone. If you go to his home page, you'll see every B&W picture he had up there earlier today is gone. If not all, most of the B&W screenshots and sprites on Serebii.net are completely removed.

There would be no reason for this if it were a fake warning. I could be missing something, but I really think that Nintendo's serious.


SIN1488 September 18th, 2010 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6165846)

I don't think it's a hoax guys.

Look at Serebii. This page was chock full of all the Isshu Pokemon's pictures. They are all gone. If you go to his home page, you'll see every B&W picture he had up there earlier today is gone. If not all, most of the B&W screenshots and sprites on Serebii.net are completely removed.

There would be no reason for this if it were a fake warning. I could be missing something, but I really think that Nintendo's serious.


Preemptive action, that's what that probably is.

JP September 18th, 2010 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6165846)

I don't think it's a hoax guys.

Look at Serebii. This page was chock full of all the Isshu Pokemon's pictures. They are all gone. If you go to his home page, you'll see every B&W picture he had up there earlier today is gone. If not all, most of the B&W screenshots and sprites on Serebii.net are completely removed.

There would be no reason for this if it were a fake warning. I could be missing something, but I really think that Nintendo's serious.


I would imagine the reason he took everything down like that would be in case it is something that's real. Better to be safe than to take a chance. Him removing the images doesn't necessarily mean the letter is real and not a hoax though.

The only thing to me that would make it seem legit is that Bulbapedia reported how Pokebeach's webmaster actually gave a call to the number listed and talked to someone. Granted, that is something that could be easily done, but it does add that sense of legitimacy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6165846)

I don't think it's a hoax guys.

Look at Serebii. This page was chock full of all the Isshu Pokemon's pictures. They are all gone. If you go to his home page, you'll see every B&W picture he had up there earlier today is gone. If not all, most of the B&W screenshots and sprites on Serebii.net are completely removed.

There would be no reason for this if it were a fake warning. I could be missing something, but I really think that Nintendo's serious.


Yeah but oddly Pokebeach hasn't...if it's real than Pokebeach is going to get into some legal trouble...

mervyn797 September 18th, 2010 7:36 PM

Oh God, if this is true, what will happen of my Screenies thread? I still don't get it. Aren't we promoting Nintendo's game by posting pictures of it? We aren't linking Roms or even making Anti-piracy patches.

Netto Azure September 18th, 2010 7:37 PM

Don't panic. That was just a preeptive action by Joe. :U

And yeah, they should have served this e-mail through the admin's emails not the WHOIS domain name email listing >_>

The Red Chain September 18th, 2010 7:37 PM

You guys make good points. I honestly do hope that this isn't real however. I liked being able to see B&W pictures, and I wanted the shiny sprites to be put up. That's what I was really looking forward to on his website. ]:

I wonder why they are only now being uptight about it after so many years...


Planetes. September 18th, 2010 7:37 PM

Guys if this IS just a troll, we could assume Pokebeach's webmaster told Serebii of the letter. So this troll could spread if both Pokebeach's Webmaster (sry whats his name) and Serebii believe its real. WE should be the ones taking action and at least have them double-check if its legit.

SIN1488 September 18th, 2010 7:39 PM

Maybe it's a conspiracy, and Nintendo hired someone to send out fake emails to cause a bunch of controversy so they would get even more coverage. :O

:P

dieter57 September 18th, 2010 7:43 PM

ok, fail.
like many of you have said before me, why would they do it now?
and didn't the games come out officially today in japan?
and if you get them shipped here instead of posting screen shots of ROMs couldn't you just post pics of the actual game itself?
so really, they would only stop it for a little while.
and if becomes illegal to do all of that then i guess we just wait for 6 months.

Netto Azure September 18th, 2010 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6165880)
Guys if this IS just a troll, we could assume Pokebeach's webmaster told Serebii of the letter. So this troll could spread if both Pokebeach's Webmaster (sry whats his name) and Serebii believe its real. WE should be the ones taking action and at least have them double-check if its legit.

Don't worry ... people are already contacting the appropriate channels

Planetes. September 18th, 2010 7:46 PM

^a'ight I just don't want to see all the screenshots taken down from the fansites that they had worked so hard to find just because of some troll.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 7:54 PM

Hmm what if the webmaster of Pokebeach made it...and sent it to himself and then to Serebii to get them to take down their pics while they keep thiers and get more viewers...I'm overthinking things huh?

fenyx4 September 18th, 2010 7:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6165907)
^a'ight I just don't want to see all the screenshots taken down from the fansites that they had worked so hard to find just because of some troll.

I would laugh if PokeBeach's owner and Serebii, among others, actually head out to kick that troll's butt severely for inconveniencing all of us Pokemon fans like this. :cer_laugh: I'm doubting whether the origin of the email, if it is a troll, will actually be traced, though...

ManhattanTheStarr September 18th, 2010 7:58 PM

Why is the title of this thread so funny to me... XD

ANYWAYS, I have no idea if this a hoax or the real deal... Some of the things pointed out though makes me think this could all just be some troll act or something. Especially the letter first saying "we", then "me" as I believe someone stated. But WPM actually contacting the person who sent him the letter makes this seem pretty legit... X_X

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr (Post 6165947)
Why is the title of this thread so funny to me... XD

ANYWAYS, I have no idea if this a hoax or the real deal... Some of the things pointed out though makes me think this could all just be some troll act or something. Especially the letter first saying "we", then "me" as I believe someone stated. But WPM actually contacting the person who sent him the letter makes this seem pretty legit... X_X

Well they are a company though "Us" would make more sense than "We"...
Which adds to my conspiracy theory on this...

Pichuichu September 18th, 2010 8:13 PM

Weird nintendo letter (mods please read and weep)
 
Okay so I've been surfing the net and I came across many pokemon related websites have gotten a letter from nintendo itself saying that if they do t take all the pokemon black and white related pics down by Sunday ( time unknown)
There site host will have to take it Down. Permanently.

Nintendo never done this before for anygames so why the heck now?!?!?!

I fell like protesting but I'd be to scared to even try them being a big scary company :p so what should PC do?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pichuichu (Post 6165995)
Okay so I've been surfing the net and I came across many pokemon related websites have gotten a letter from nintendo itself saying that if they do t take all the pokemon black and white related pics down by Sunday ( time unknown)
There site host will have to take it Down. Permanently.

Nintendo never done this before for anygames so why the heck now?!?!?!

I fell like protesting but I'd be to scared to even try them being a big scary company :p so what should PC do?

Well Pc isn't a pokemon news site but a fan site... Pokebeach and the reat have to worry more than us...

Netto Azure September 18th, 2010 8:23 PM

Actually...it's only Serebii and Pokebeach that have recieved E-MAIL'S so what are these other sites you're talking about?

Impo September 18th, 2010 8:23 PM

i think it's a hoax :P
pkmn b/w have so much rep and stuff,
i dont read the crap on serebii,
i just read the pictures :)

and its not like there claiming they made it or anything :P

Planetes. September 18th, 2010 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netto Azure (Post 6166021)
Actually...it's only Serebii and Pokebeach that have recieved E-MAIL'S so what are these other sites you're talking about?

I'm guessing PokeJungle and Experto will recieve "notices" soon. Psypoke is posting info as well.

Ho-Oh September 18th, 2010 8:36 PM

Kay, it's best that this is locked to avoid the drama and discussion regarding whether it's a hoax or not. If it's real, it's real. If it's fake, it's fake. Let's just get back to finding out information, playing and enjoying the games~

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