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Teh Blazer September 18th, 2010 3:06 PM

A Sinnoh Appearance?
 
It looks like on serebii.net Cythia makes yet another appearance in another game. (Just press Ctrl + F and type in Cynthia, you'll find it)

Soo, what is Cythia doing there? Why doesn't anyone find it weird she has never before seen Pokemon with her (you fight)? How did she get there? Do you think this ruins the whole "Isshu is isolated" idea? Discuss, please.

King Gumball September 18th, 2010 3:08 PM

She is the cchampion of Sinnoh so I think she would like to travel and catch new powerful pokemon :L

ManhattanTheStarr September 18th, 2010 3:08 PM

Personally, I hate the fact that Cynthia is in B/W. She completely ruins the new feel it's supposed to give. Just stay in Sinnoh where you belong. 3:<

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 3:08 PM

Maybe Isshu is her home region ;)

austy14 September 18th, 2010 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6165032)
Maybe Isshu is her home region ;)

I think it's more implied she is Sinnoh-native. Though, it is possible. Maybe there's family? But I beleieve more she is studying Reshi/Zek, cus they remind me her of Dialga and Palkia and she studies them a lot.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6165042)
I think it's more implied she is Sinnoh-native. Though, it is possible. Maybe there's family? But I beleieve more she is studying Reshi/Zek, cus they remind me her of Dialga and Palkia and she studies them a lot.

Yeah she is but she said her house in a different region so it could be Isshu :o!

Dooonerz September 18th, 2010 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6165032)
Maybe Isshu is her home region ;)

:O That would be an awesome twist ;D

I think she should stay in Sinnoh, she is the champion after all! xD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 3:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dooonerz (Post 6165056)
:O That would be an awesome twist ;D

I think she should stay in Sinnoh, she is the champion after all! xD

Well she goes back and forth, she is in Isshu in Spring and Summer but in Sinnoh in Fall and Winter....wait that makes sense as it was kind of winter in Pt...

Maxite September 18th, 2010 3:19 PM

So Cynthia is wandering around Isshu, and you can even challenge her to a battle. A better question to ponder is: Who's the stand-in champ back in Sinnoh at this time?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 3:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxite (Post 6165073)
So Cynthia is wandering around Isshu, and you can even challenge her to a battle. A better question to ponder is: Who's the stand-in champ back in Sinnoh at this time?

I'm guessing it works like the 8th gym in RGBYFrLg, they just close the League for some time while they are out doing whatever they are doing...

dinosaurodon September 18th, 2010 3:24 PM

you of course(if you've beaten d,p or pt)

Blueknight September 18th, 2010 3:45 PM

I personally like the fact that both Cynthia/Blue are included in BW. That just makes the game more awesome, with more champions (and their themes too). She has 4 of her origional pokemon, and 2 new ones.

What'd be awesome is if you got to triple battle Red, cynthia, and Blue at once.

Quote:

So Cynthia is wandering around Isshu, and you can even challenge her to a battle. A better question to ponder is: Who's the stand-in champ back in Sinnoh at this time?
Since this generation is occurring around RSE's time (Around 1st generation's time too because of FRLG) then this wold be a time before the sinnoh region. Sinnoh is around generation 2's time. So Cynthia may just be wandering around untill she becomes champ.

Time peroid 1-RBY, FRLG, RSE, BW
Time peroid 2-GSC, DPPt, HGSS

PlatinumDude September 18th, 2010 4:07 PM

Since Cynthia researches on Pokemon mythology, my guess is that she came to Isshu to research on its mythology as well.

Åzurε September 18th, 2010 6:12 PM

It seems perfectly fine to me. Number one, she's a regional Champion, so there's whatever privileges come with that (the Snowpoint boat to the Frontier could be considered part of this), and she's into Pokemon myth and legend, so yeah.

JP September 18th, 2010 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueknight (Post 6165146)
I personally like the fact that both Cynthia/Blue are included in BW. That just makes the game more awesome, with more champions (and their themes too). She has 4 of her origional pokemon, and 2 new ones.

What'd be awesome is if you got to triple battle Red, cynthia, and Blue at once.



Since this generation is occurring around RSE's time (Around 1st generation's time too because of FRLG) then this wold be a time before the sinnoh region. Sinnoh is around generation 2's time. So Cynthia may just be wandering around untill she becomes champ.

Time peroid 1-RBY, FRLG, RSE, BW
Time peroid 2-GSC, DPPt, HGSS

Waaaaaaaaait a minute... Blue's been confirmed then? I know they found his Champion music, but they didn't know if he was in the game or not (which would be odd lol.)

As for Cynthia... as I've mentioned in plenty of other topics, I love her. She is my absolute favorite Champion, and just generally one of my favorite characters in the Pokemon World. So I'm ecstatic about her appearing in this game, as well as being able to battle her! Plus, you do seem to get the idea that she enjoys traveling a lot, so in a sense it works out well. =)

esperance September 18th, 2010 7:10 PM

Just so you all know, Cynthia is a Sinnoh native. Her grandparents are in Celestic Town.

dieter57 September 18th, 2010 7:54 PM

i think it's awesome that she is in isshu.
and TECHNICALLY she isn't the champ anymore.
Lucas is.
so now that she is defeated she has more time to go and travel around the world!

JP September 18th, 2010 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6165928)
i think it's awesome that she is in isshu.
and TECHNICALLY she isn't the champ anymore.
Lucas is.

Lol, although that's true, none of the games ever really acknowledge the Player as the Champion. In the end, the game Champion remains the same. :P So taking that into consideration, I imagine GF would continue with this mindset.

Luck September 18th, 2010 8:08 PM

No, Isshu needs more Professor Oak. Cynthia being in a game is so stupid, they're just recycling things now.Actually, I rather like this. Cynthia was about the only leader that used good pokemon and it's great to see a trainer with more than a single working brain cell come back, especially someone as awesome looking as Cynthia.

dieter57 September 18th, 2010 8:08 PM

but ah HA!
thats not true!
in R/S the champ was Steven. but in Emerald it was Wallace.
and then in SS the champ of hoen is still Steven.
so they do acknowledge the fact that a champ was defeated.

JP September 18th, 2010 8:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6165983)
but ah HA!
thats not true!
in R/S the champ was Steven. but in Emerald it was Wallace.
and then in SS the champ of hoen is still Steven.
so they do acknowledge the fact that a champ was defeated.

No, that's not what I meant lol. They never really seem to acknowledge the fact that YOU (the Player) are the new Champion.

Non-playable characters, such as Wallace and Steven, are a different story. Something like this even takes place in the new games.

dieter57 September 18th, 2010 8:17 PM

i think they don't acknowledge that because it's supposed to be an rpg, right?
so it wouldn't make sense for you to re battle the elite four only to face yourself?
but i have no problem beleving that in B/W Lukas is sitting alone in a room with a (awesome) piano playing in the bacround awaiting his next challenger. while Cynthia is traveling, living her dream of proving every legendary Pokemon myth true.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 8:19 PM

Actually the only champ ever acknowledge was Red and that's it...

dieter57 September 18th, 2010 8:22 PM

steven, red, and blue are all acknowledged defeated champions.
and Lukas and Gold are both acknowledged to be champions in there games.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 18th, 2010 8:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6166018)
steven, red, and blue are all acknowledged defeated champions.
and Lukas and Gold are both acknowledged to be champions in there games.

I'm talking about outside their story line...
Also Steven is still called the Hoenn champ in SS which is odd...
Lucas/Dawn and the rest were only acknowledge in the games they were playerable in unlike Red...

dieter57 September 18th, 2010 8:29 PM

the reason Steven is still hoen champ is because S/G came before R/S in the time line.
so he is still champ because Wallace hasn't defeated him yet.

orange discontent September 18th, 2010 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6165032)
Maybe Isshu is her home region ;)

But she grew up in Celestic Town :/

Cynthia is boring now. They should have made her a secret agent of Team Plasma who's covered all of her bases, lol.

austy14 September 18th, 2010 9:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange discontent (Post 6166100)
But she grew up in Celestic Town :/

Cynthia is boring now. They should have made her a secret agent of Team Plasma who's covered all of her bases, lol.

There's no proof she grew up in Celestic town. But also, with the places she's been/lived, how old is she? I took her to like 24 for some reason, but that young I don't think she would have traveled as much as she has D:

coolnick37 September 19th, 2010 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6165070)

Well she goes back and forth, she is in Isshu in Spring and Summer but in Sinnoh in Fall and Winter....wait that makes sense as it was kind of winter in Pt...

It wasnt winter there, that was the original climate of hokkaido, which is always cold and has snow and stuff, so it might be summer too.
Im glad taht cynthia is there, i like when chars from older gens come in new gen. It felt so good when i saw jasmine in sinnoh :3

MrGriszell September 19th, 2010 1:03 AM

Once you become champion you hold the title for life, that could be why steven is still refered as champion of hoen. And i like the fact the Cynthea is in issue, it shows that everything is still connected. And just because people from other regions are in the game doesnt mean we dont have a fresh start.

Choroneko September 19th, 2010 1:16 AM

I've read that you battle her at some stage, her team consists of Level 70+'s

The Doctor September 19th, 2010 2:03 AM

HG/SS Was Before R/S so Steven will obviously be the champ till Wallace Beats Him

~Wind~ September 19th, 2010 4:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Opera Ghost (Post 6166592)
HG/SS Was Before R/S so Steven will obviously be the champ till Wallace Beats Him

wrong.
timeline:

.......R/B/G..................... G/S/C......
===R/S/E==3 year skip===D/P/Pt===
.......B/W/? .................... Gen 6......

My guesses are Cynthia isnt champion yet, and Steven probably got his title back.

X Latios September 19th, 2010 4:58 AM

Apparently when she's talking to you she mentions that you remind her of a trainer who caught Giratina, which if true would suggest that B&W is taking place after DPPt.

Blueknight September 19th, 2010 6:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Wind~ (Post 6166792)
wrong.
timeline:

.......R/B/G..................... G/S/C......
===R/S/E==3 year skip===D/P/Pt===
.......B/W/? .................... Gen 6......

My guesses are Cynthia isnt champion yet, and Steven probably got his title back.

nononono. B/W is around the same time as RSE, because of the supposed 3rd generation remakes.

lucaspontes September 19th, 2010 6:32 AM

I don't know if anyone already said that, but Serebii says that Katorena, the Psychic-type Elite Four member, visits Cynthia's house in Isshu, so maybe they are related...

Lord Varion September 19th, 2010 8:41 AM

Cynthia in B&W
 
I was looking aorund my sprite resource website
and i found this for Black and White
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/Nintendork15/Cynthia.png

Cynthia?

Is she battlable in this Game?

If so Where why and how do you battle her...?

Discuss!?!

Perriechu September 19th, 2010 8:43 AM

We already have a thread like this... yes you do battle Cynthia after the main game.

Lord Varion September 19th, 2010 8:43 AM

Oh poo!

I searched for it but i couldnt find it ?

coolnick37 September 19th, 2010 8:44 AM

Havent you seen the thread for cynthia already? -.-

Ho-Oh September 19th, 2010 8:48 AM

Guys, next time, don't minimod, just report.

Surmonter September 19th, 2010 9:25 AM

Who cares if she is in it? Oh no! A person traveling? UNHEARD OF!

Livewire September 19th, 2010 9:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6167559)
Who cares if she is in it? Oh no! A person traveling? UNHEARD OF!

PEOPLE TRAVEL IN POKEMON GAMES?!? Imagine that.

But seriously. Who cares people. It's not a big deal. Cynthia was a cool champion and she returns with an awesomely powerful team in B&W. :D

Rengoku September 19th, 2010 9:30 AM

I agree with Live.
Cynthia is actually my most favourite Champion next to Lance and yeahs.

dieter57 September 19th, 2010 10:26 AM

for all you youngins out there,

the time line is
R/B/Y/Fr/Lg
then
G/S/C/SS/HG
then
R/S/E
then
D/P/Pt

i don't know but i have never once heard that they are all taking place at the same time or another. they happen chronologically. Gen 1 to Gen 2 is about three years. then gen 3 is about two years after gold beats red. the gen 1 remakes are just remakes. they are not during the same time as gen 3. gen 4 is after gen three in the time line. and the gen 2 remakes are not happening at the same time as gen 4.

Livewire September 19th, 2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6167755)
for all you youngins out there,

the time line is
R/B/Y/Fr/Lg
then
G/S/C/SS/HG
then
R/S/E
then
D/P/Pt

i don't know but i have never once heard that they are all taking place at the same time or another. they happen chronologically. Gen 1 to Gen 2 is about three years. then gen 3 is about two years after gold beats red. the gen 1 remakes are just remakes. they are not during the same time as gen 3. gen 4 is after gen three in the time line. and the gen 2 remakes are not happening at the same time as gen 4.

You lost me. @[email protected] what does that have to do with Cynthia?

dieter57 September 19th, 2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6167775)


You lost me. @[email protected] what does that have to do with Cynthia?

My theory:
Cynthia lost to Lukas/Dawn.
now Lukas/Dawn is now sitting alone in a room waiting for challengers.
Cynthia is wandering the World.

Here is a visual time line.
Emerald is supposed to be where it is because it happens at the same time yet further down the road. same teams but different champ.

Livewire September 19th, 2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6167835)
My theory:
Cynthia lost to Lukas/Dawn.
now Lukas/Dawn is now sitting alone in a room waiting for challengers.
Cynthia is wandering the World.

Here is a visual time line.
Emerald is supposed to be where it is because it happens at the same time yet further down the road. same teams but different champ.

Ahhh I get it. Cynthia is out and about traveling because in all technicality Lucas/Dawn is the current Sinnoh Champion.

dieter57 September 19th, 2010 11:07 AM

yes. but why she picks Isshu is beyond me.

lucaspontes September 19th, 2010 11:15 AM

This timeline thing is confusing. You can say GSC happen at the same time as HGSS because the same events happen (for example, Team Rocket taking control of the Radio Tower), but you can also say HGSS time is after GSC, because there are places that didn't existed before, like the pokeathlon; there is a Wii in your bedroom; and the guy next to the Radio Tower says something like "This new tower was built to replace the old one", etc.

So my theory each game is unrelated to the other games, so if you are playing Heart Gold, that means the protagonists of RSE never existed, so that's why Steven is still the champion, because the third generation protagonists never existed to beat him, and even after Wallace becomes the champion, Steven is still called the "true champion". The only exception to this is Gen I - Gen 2 relation, because you see Red and Blue on GSC/HGSS. Even RBY is unrelated to FRLG and GSC to HGSS.

dieter57 September 19th, 2010 11:23 AM

look at my time line i just posted four post earlier and it'll be easier to understand.

Thorns September 19th, 2010 11:28 AM

Wasn't Cynthia's hometown Celestic Town since thats what her grandmother syas?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 19th, 2010 11:29 AM

Well they time line to me is
Gen 1 is the start
Gen 2 then a few months later gen 4
Gen 3 is ?
Gen 5 is after gen 4 as they mentioned the Giratina capture :)

Zelda September 19th, 2010 12:26 PM

This thread is for discussing Cynthia being in Isshu and we're starting to talk about time-lines so, stick to the topic guys. n_n

Cynthia being in Isshu gave me a shock, I must say. On the other hand Isshu has kept its word on several things so this shouldn't be a big issue, in my opinion. Issue, Isshu get it? xD;;

It's good to have at least one thing from the past--this being it I suppose. I'm glad that Cynthia has her Garchomp with her, it makes it all the more reasonable. Seeing as she has some Isshu pokémon with her this time, I do wonder if she will become more difficult for some. I know a few people who had mentioned they had a hard time battling her but the more the challenge, the better the game is how I look at it.

JP September 19th, 2010 12:42 PM

Was it ever said that a Champion MUST remain in their region at all time? I mean it's a little ridiculous to not expect them to travel. This is why I feel theres something wrong with the theory that she's traveling because she's not a champion yet or anymore. It's been showed that she enjoys traveling and has an interest in Legends. That and like I said before, it's never exactly acknowledged in the games that the Player (in this case, Lucas or Dawn) is the new Champion, as the role and title goes back to the original Champion of the region.

Red1530 September 19th, 2010 1:00 PM

I find it interesting the Cynthia is Isshu. I think the reason she is there is to research.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 19th, 2010 1:13 PM

I'm surprised that no one mentioned Looker in Isshu yet...but Cynthia is more important and famous ;)
I bet she is switching her attention to Isshu myths as the Giratina event is said to have passed and probably the Arceus Hg/Ss event did too so she wanted to look into another myth now :)

JP September 19th, 2010 1:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6168221)
I'm surprised that no one mentioned Looker in Isshu yet...but Cynthia is more important and famous ;)
I bet she is switching her attention to Isshu myths as the Giratina event is said to have passed and probably the Arceus Hg/Ss event did too so she wanted to look into another myth now :)

I wasn't that interested in Looker, but it's still cool he shows up.
Spoiler:
He's there to investigate on the Mages, right? I think I remember reading something like that, and that's how you end up looking for them after the game.

Livewire September 19th, 2010 1:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 6168094)
This thread is for discussing Cynthia being in Isshu and we're starting to talk about time-lines so, stick to the topic guys. n_n

Cynthia being in Isshu gave me a shock, I must say. On the other hand Isshu has kept its word on several things so this shouldn't be a big issue, in my opinion. Issue, Isshu get it? xD;;

It's good to have at least one thing from the past--this being it I suppose. I'm glad that Cynthia has her Garchomp with her, it makes it all the more reasonable. Seeing as she has some Isshu pokémon with her this time, I do wonder if she will become more difficult for some. I know a few people who had mentioned they had a hard time battling her but the more the challenge, the better the game is how I look at it.

Exactly. The game wouldn't be any fun if she was easy. She'll be a very worthy opponent when the time comes to face her. Garchomp and Wargle? :D :D :D love.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 19th, 2010 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6168246)


Exactly. The game wouldn't be any fun if she was easy. She'll be a very worthy opponent when the time comes to face her. Garchomp and Wargle? :D :D :D love.

And the levitating Electric Lamprey is pure awesomeness :D!

Massai September 19th, 2010 1:41 PM

First off, you're using what generation a game is remade into to determine the time line?

Second, that's ridiculous.

Third, Isshu is her home region.

Fourth, do you live in the same place as your grandparents? I come from native and immigrant stock myself.

Fifth, the fact that she is there is awesome.

Sixth, it's cool Blue is livin large in Isshu, but we gotta draw the line at Cynthia?

Seventh, shouldn't you be more upset that Lt. Surge isn't making a cameo, since he's the most well known American in the pokemon universe, and Isshu is NYC?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 19th, 2010 1:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massai (Post 6168284)
First off, you're using what generation a game is remade into to determine the time line?

Second, that's ridiculous.

Third, Isshu is her home region.

Fourth, do you live in the same place as your grandparents? I come from native and immigrant stock myself.

Fifth, the fact that she is there is awesome.

Sixth, it's cool Blue is livin large in Isshu, but we gotta draw the line at Cynthia?

Seventh, shouldn't you be more upset that Lt. Surge isn't making a cameo, since he's the most well known American in the pokemon universe, and Isshu is NYC?

Actually Blue's Music is there but so far he isn't there...
also I agree with her home region being Isshu.

JP September 19th, 2010 1:50 PM

If Isshu is proven to be her region rather than Sinnoh (or some other one), I hope she also makes an appearance in Best Wishes. :P

AngelXavier September 19th, 2010 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 6168306)
If Isshu is proven to be her region rather than Sinnoh (or some other one), I hope she also makes an appearance in Best Wishes. :P

Off topic, but i would love to see Gary make a return in BestWishes as one of Ash's companion. Like Brock and all?

Note: i just noticed "B"est"W"ishes
Black White anyone else see this?

funnykid September 19th, 2010 2:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6167995)
Well they time line to me is
Gen 1 is the start
Gen 2 then a few months later gen 4
Gen 3 is ?
Gen 5 is after gen 4 as they mentioned the Giratina capture :)

It's been confirmed that:

RBGY/FRLG and RSE happen concurrently in the same time period (you can actually see child Jasmine in the audiences in RSE contests)

then....

GSC/HGSS and DPPt happen concurrently 3 years later (hence Jasmine appearing in Sunyshore in her GSC/HGSS age)


I do not know when BW happens, but it can inferred it happens closely before or after the events of GSC/HGSS/DPPt as Cynthia and Looker has not changed their overall appearances (clothes, hairstyle, etc.). Usually, characters change their image upon a generation changeover, especially in Pokemon (e.g. gym leaders like Misty/Sabrina from Gen I to II).

Maxite September 19th, 2010 2:25 PM

Yes AngelXavier: We saw the BW in Best Wishes long ago.

It could also be, that based on the simple geography of the regions (Sinnoh is in Japan, and Isshu is in America), and based on simple economics at play, then it could be possible that Cynthia is not only researching legends, but also looking to buy a home while real estate prices are depressed.

All kidding aside, I'll be interested in seeing the US version and what Cynthia is up to (or someone translating her lines and related lines).

Massai September 19th, 2010 2:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelXavier (Post 6168329)
Off topic, but i would love to see Gary make a return in BestWishes as one of Ash's companion. Like Brock and all?

Note: i just noticed "B"est"W"ishes
Black White anyone else see this?

I imagine thats more coincidence than anything, but yes, it is rather cute.

dieter57 September 20th, 2010 5:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funnykid (Post 6168387)
It's been confirmed that:

RBGY/FRLG and RSE happen concurrently in the same time period (you can actually see child Jasmine in the audiences in RSE contests)

then....

GSC/HGSS and DPPt happen concurrently 3 years later (hence Jasmine appearing in Sunyshore in her GSC/HGSS age)


I do not know when BW happens, but it can inferred it happens closely before or after the events of GSC/HGSS/DPPt as Cynthia and Looker has not changed their overall appearances (clothes, hairstyle, etc.). Usually, characters change their image upon a generation changeover, especially in Pokemon (e.g. gym leaders like Misty/Sabrina from Gen I to II).

and who confirmed this?
just would like to know....

インフェルノの津波 September 20th, 2010 9:09 PM

Lol, she battles you and has a team of Spiritomb, Milotic, Garchomp, Lucario, Wooguru, and Shibirudon. She only appears in the Spring and Summer time, and you can battle her al you want. In case this wasn't revealed yet.

Samson September 20th, 2010 9:28 PM

i've always HATED fighting against Cynthia because of her hax. i swear GameFreak has a "Cynthia clause" where her crit rates are doubled, 70% accuracy moves always hit, one double team from spiritomb = 3 regular double teams and 10% chance of freeze = 50%.

I HATE HATE HATE YOU CYNTHIAAAAAAAA!

Omega Zero September 20th, 2010 9:44 PM

actually i pwned her with a team of 2 Infernape and togekiss lol lvl 60+

Clefairies September 20th, 2010 9:58 PM

I like the idea of Cynthia travelling around Isshu, as someone else stated it connects the reigons together and makes logical sense that trainers from other reigons will explore other areas once finished exploring their origin region.

Heart's Soul September 21st, 2010 9:35 AM

Just wondering... what's her team? Still perfect IVs, I think.

JP September 21st, 2010 9:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heart's Soul (Post 6172185)
Just wondering... what's her team? Still perfect IVs, I think.

Pretty sure the only Pokemon on her team that had perfect IV's was Garchomp. :P

As for her team:
Lv.75 Spiritomb, Lv.75 Shibirudon, Lv.75 Milotic, Lv.75 Wargle, Lv.75 Lucario, and a Lv.77 Garchomp

=D

dieter57 September 21st, 2010 1:51 PM

i really can't wait to face her again! she was the best champ so far!
although she will lose to my zekrom..

off topic for a min but who is isshus champ during the first run through?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 21st, 2010 3:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6172689)
i really can't wait to face her again! she was the best champ so far!
although she will lose to my zekrom..

off topic for a min but who is isshus champ during the first run through?

Belle I think
Also I really hope Cynthia is a bigger challenge than last time :)

Fushigidane-Chan September 21st, 2010 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 6172190)
Pretty sure the only Pokemon on her team that had perfect IV's was Garchomp. :P

No, it was all of them.

I'm pleased to see Cynthia make a reappearance - a fightable one, nonetheless. I wish we could fight Steven and/or Red too, though.

allBlue September 21st, 2010 3:45 PM

Meh. Will a moderator change the title as to not give away major spoilers, please?

With all respect to the OP of course, I know you want to share the news with everyone but you also got to respect the wishes of those who don't want to be spoiled with major events in the game.

Zelda September 21st, 2010 4:04 PM

To be honest, I think this is a great way to say old characters travel region to region like the anime has the characters do as well. I hope Cynthia is more of a challenge than before for me since I'm all about the challenges. :) Although in DPPt she wasn't so much of a trouble other than her a Garchomp and occassionally her Gastrodon, I'm hoping she'll have a strategic moveset for each of her pokémon and moreover, Garchomp.

For those who are concerned about the title change, I've taken a look at how much of a spoiler the title of this thread is and changed it for those who don't want to be spoiled. Happy Posting!

Bluemoon September 21st, 2010 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6172805)
No, it was all of them.

I'm pleased to see Cynthia make a reappearance - a fightable one, nonetheless. I wish we could fight Steven and/or Red too, though.

Me too... I would like to have all the previous champs to make an appearance in the game... but they wont have a constant place to stay... they would be difficult to find...

Wait is Blue really in the game as well?

Heart's Soul September 21st, 2010 4:47 PM

Thanks. Also, her theme is MUCH better in BW than in DPPt. It's higher tempo and better instruments.

Haza September 21st, 2010 5:09 PM

I really like that she's in it because it still feels like there is just a little connection to the previous regions. It's comforting to me at least...

Fushigidane-Chan September 21st, 2010 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluemoon (Post 6173073)
Wait is Blue really in the game as well?

He's not, but a remix of the Champion music from Red and Blue is.

JP September 21st, 2010 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6172805)
No, it was all of them.

I'm pleased to see Cynthia make a reappearance - a fightable one, nonetheless. I wish we could fight Steven and/or Red too, though.

Oooh my mistake. I thought I remembered reading only Garchomp did. :P

Ho-Oh September 22nd, 2010 11:16 PM

I think travelling to previous regions is unlikely, personally... considering the games are released and nobody has said anything, but it could be hinting at the fact that although Isshu is in a different "world" or something, the old favourites haven't completely left, or something.

King Gumball September 22nd, 2010 11:28 PM

I think it will never happen. Traveling to other regions, in this new fresh start of a game? Never will happen. A tiny, tiny chance of it happening in the remake, though I still doubt it. Isshu is so far away too. I do hope there will be other areas not on the map that you can travel to though, like in FR/LG.

pokehearts October 3rd, 2010 2:57 PM

What they should do like King Gramball said make like a little island off the coast of isshu named Grey Island (If thats the name of the remake) where you can rematch gym leaders in isshu plus fight gym leaders and champions from older games ( With the occasional frontier brain showing up) like the battle ground in platinum

Zelda October 4th, 2010 3:52 PM

I'm not sure if anybody noticed this before but Cynthia's Japanese name, Shirona has Shiro in it which means White while she's wearing black clothing. Her character in itself could have been giving indications of her relation towards Black and White. I thought I'd bring this up, and I for one, wouldn't have been able to come up with this theory without knowing she was actually going to make an appearance.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 4th, 2010 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 6202678)
I'm not sure if anybody noticed this before but Cynthia's Japanese name, Shirona has Shiro in it which means White while she's wearing black clothing. Her character in itself could have been giving indications of her relation towards Black and White. I thought I'd bring this up, and I for one, wouldn't have been able to come up with this theory without knowing she was actually going to make an appearance.

Yeah and cyrus Jap name contains the word red...so maybe Sinnoh hinted at BWC (they did license pokemon Crimson along with Grey...)

solarowl October 4th, 2010 4:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 6202678)
I'm not sure if anybody noticed this before but Cynthia's Japanese name, Shirona has Shiro in it which means White while she's wearing black clothing. Her character in itself could have been giving indications of her relation towards Black and White. I thought I'd bring this up, and I for one, wouldn't have been able to come up with this theory without knowing she was actually going to make an appearance.

That seems logical actually. That could have some relevance. Or its just a coincidence XD. I guess maybe they were thinking of having Cynthia in Pokemon Black and White. But they also brought her in Pokemon HG SS for the Arceus event. I'm guessing they liked Cynthia's character (like me) and decided to have her for gen 5.
Either way, I don't really care. I'm actually excited Cynthia's back!

Fushigidane-Chan October 4th, 2010 4:56 PM

It appears, contrary to popular belief, Cynthia is not rebattleable.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 4th, 2010 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6202828)
It appears, contrary to popular belief, Cynthia is not rebattleable.

What really so we can only battle her once :(

Ho-Oh October 4th, 2010 5:46 PM

That's a surprise, strange how you can't. Maybe you rebattle her in Winter instead of Summer :D (and people... translated wrong? idk)

JP October 4th, 2010 7:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6202828)
It appears, contrary to popular belief, Cynthia is not rebattleable.

Where did you get this information from? I would imagine we'd have heard something about this by now considering lots of people have made it to this point in the game. o__O

rocky505 October 4th, 2010 7:08 PM

I heard you battle her once a week.

JP October 4th, 2010 7:31 PM

Ugh, I'm gonna be really pissed if it ends up being the case that you can't rematch her at all. :/ I wouldn't see the point of a one time deal. Once a week I'd say is likely.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire October 4th, 2010 7:39 PM

I heard you could battle her once a week...but maybe that once a week as an added part like with what happened with Belle...

Lateon October 4th, 2010 8:07 PM

According to serebii, you can battle her once a day. =) That sould be fun and challenging, she was by far the hardest champion- I wound up complteting the shinnoh dex and getting the national one, then importing my LG team to beat her. free exp

Fushigidane-Chan October 5th, 2010 2:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateon (Post 6203199)
According to serebii, you can battle her once a day. =)

He's definitely wrong on that part. No one has been able to battle her more than once. I'm going to be optimistic and believe it's a once-a-week thing, but it doesn't look likely.

Zelda October 5th, 2010 3:10 AM

You are able to battle Cynthia once a day. However, this is only during the Spring and Summer time. Just wanted to clarify this up for those who would be disappointed if it was only a one time thing.
I'm sure it seems weird to be able to battle her once a day during those two seasons, but there will be different characters coming to visit her each day such as the two Elite Four Members, Caitlin and Shikimi. So even though it doesn't really make sense to battle her once everyday, characters will be there and will be adding on to the storyline as well.

But yes, we will be able to have rematches with Cynthia, which is a great relief for those who are really looking forward to seeing her. :)


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