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blaQk December 1st, 2010 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by twistedpuppy (Post 6319011)
Wait. Dream World pokémon can't be shiny? I guess it doesn't make much of a difference since their abilities can be bred, but wow that sucks.

Bred Dream World pokemon can be shiny. I'm not sure about regular ones though.

yellowbird December 1st, 2010 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaQk (Post 6319022)
Bred Dream World pokemon can be shiny. I'm not sure about regular ones though.


Yeah, so it's not THAT big of a deal, but this constant banning of shininess is just kind of dumb. :P

twistedpuppy December 1st, 2010 5:28 PM

Speaking of shiny pokes, does anyone know how the RNG process is coming along for B/W? I've seen a few IV'd 5th gen mons around here, but I was wondering if they finally found a way to RNG in gen 5 & how difficult/easy it is?

AngelXavier December 1st, 2010 6:03 PM

Just bred
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/shiny/276.png
Shiny Tailow Male
Jolly Guts
OT:John ID:29503
EggMoves:BraveBird, AerialAce, WhirlWind, DoubleTeam
31| 31| 31| 31| 31| 31|

blaQk December 1st, 2010 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by twistedpuppy (Post 6319057)
I've seen a few IV'd 5th gen mons around here

I can almost guarantee they are hacked, lol.

Alternative December 1st, 2010 6:12 PM

It's all a matter of opinion whether you think 5th gen RNG Pokemon are hacked, but since smogon is totally dumbstruck by hacks, you can assume they are.

Also, Swellow fails without Pursuit and Brave Bird. :D

twistedpuppy December 1st, 2010 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by blaQk (Post 6319139)
I can almost guarantee they are hacked, lol.

*facepalm*

Anyways it looks like my question was just answered on smogon.

Detox December 1st, 2010 6:19 PM

I can too, when have they EVER cracked the RNG so fast after it was released? I started hearing things on Smogon of them cracking the RNG only a week and a half after B/W was released in Japan. It just doesn't sit right with me.

yellowbird December 1st, 2010 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 6319174)
I can too, when have they EVER cracked the RNG so fast after it was released? I started hearing things on Smogon of them cracking the RNG only a week and a half after B/W was released in Japan. It just doesn't sit right with me.


Well, I'm just going to take everything with a grain of salt.
Just think, the people who are cracking this have had like 3+ years of practice with cracking DPPt and HGSS, so what's another game to them? That, coupled with the fact that BW RNG might actually be easy brings it into the realm of possibility.

But I still think it's unlikely that it's been FULLY "cracked"

Alternative December 1st, 2010 6:47 PM

Well considering Smogon didn't crack the RNG in DPPt until sometime in 2009, I'd say they have 3+ years of experience.

yellowbird December 1st, 2010 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 6319224)
Well considering Smogon didn't crack the RNG in DPPt until sometime in 2009, I'd say they have 3+ years of experience.


I've seen posts of people who "learned from smogon" on other forums that were made in like 2008.

But no, so I was off. By a bit, but yeah. The people still know what they're doing and what to look for.

blaQk December 1st, 2010 7:10 PM

I'm wondering when Game Freak is going to get pissed and make the RNG next to impossible to anticipate.

Hooh December 1st, 2010 7:13 PM

I must be crazy, I don't care about Pokemon natures/IVs/EVs.

I'm so off topic.

yellowbird December 1st, 2010 7:30 PM


Cool? That doesn't make you any less or any more of a person.


Quote:

Originally Posted by blaQk (Post 6319249)
I'm wondering when Game Freak is going to get pissed and make the RNG next to impossible to anticipate.


I'm betting the third game, Gray or whatever you want to call it. xD

twistedpuppy December 1st, 2010 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blaQk (Post 6319249)
I'm wondering when Game Freak is going to get pissed and make the RNG next to impossible to anticipate.

They'll probably send a lawyer from Nintendo with a cease and desist order instead. >.>

yellowbird December 1st, 2010 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by twistedpuppy (Post 6319289)


They'll probably send a lawyer from Nintendo with a cease and desist order instead. >.>


HAAAAA.
Yeah, they'll sue the people who made RNG Reporter. :P

Detox December 1st, 2010 7:56 PM

NO THEY WILL CONFISCATE ALL OUR RNG'D POKEMON.

Alternative December 1st, 2010 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowbird (Post 6319352)

HAAAAA.
Yeah, they'll sue the people who made RNG Reporter. :P

I don't understand, what would they sue them for? There's no copyright breaching by using it or anything. They just worked out the system for the games.

And I don't think they'll make the RNG harder to work out, but harder to find out how it works. RNG is used for everything based on what Pokemon you'll encounter and when you'll encounter it. It determines whether you will catch a Pokemon when you throw a Pokeball at it, or what IVs/Nature/Gender it has.

yellowbird December 1st, 2010 8:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 6319364)

I don't understand, what would they sue them for? There's no copyright breaching by using it or anything. They just worked out the system for the games.

And I don't think they'll make the RNG harder to work out, but harder to find out how it works. RNG is used for everything based on what Pokemon you'll encounter and when you'll encounter it. It determines whether you will catch a Pokemon when you throw a Pokeball at it, or what IVs/Nature/Gender it has.


The ":P" was meant to denote the fact that I thought that it was a completely ridiculous idea. Just like sending a bunch of threatening letters to Pokebeach, Serebii, etc., weren't exactly rational. Example: Syndrome used the same tone I did, just in capitals.

blaQk December 1st, 2010 9:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowbird (Post 6319465)

The ":P" was meant to denote the fact that I thought that it was a completely ridiculous idea. Just like sending a bunch of threatening letters to Pokebeach, Serebii, etc., weren't exactly rational. Example: Syndrome used the same tone I did, just in capitals.

No! Pokemans are serious business and Game Tards demand that you cease and desist of taking advantage of their horrible game engine!

Migit78 December 1st, 2010 10:34 PM

For breeding does one or both parents shiny increase odds for shiny egg at all?
Or is it only if one parent is shiny and from a different nation eg/Japan shiny ditto?

Alternative December 1st, 2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Migit78 (Post 6319649)
For breeding does one or both parents shiny increase odds for shiny egg at all?
Or is it only if one parent is shiny and from a different nation eg/Japan shiny ditto?

Shiny Pokemon do not increase the chance of the offspring being shiny whatsoever, although having two Pokemon with different nationalities will improve the chances feom 1/8192 to 1/2048.

blaQk December 1st, 2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Migit78 (Post 6319649)
For breeding does one or both parents shiny increase odds for shiny egg at all?
Or is it only if one parent is shiny and from a different nation eg/Japan shiny ditto?

Shiny parents do not increase your chances.

I haven't looked into the foreign method you're talking about, but I know having a foreign Ditto breeding with a non-foreign parent improves your chances.

Edit: GG Alternative.

Migit78 December 1st, 2010 10:55 PM

Thanks guys.
And BlaQk the method I was talking about was what you said
I just worded it poorly

I bred 2 pokemon with Pokerus and now have an egg with Pokerus
I find that pretty cool

blaQk December 2nd, 2010 5:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Migit78 (Post 6319680)
I bred 2 pokemon with Pokerus and now have an egg with Pokerus
I find that pretty cool

. . . I don't think that's possible.

In other news:

Everyone should go here and vote me for "best trader". I know you all love me. <3

I'll do a giveaway if I win.


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