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Ho-Oh September 24th, 2010 12:25 AM

B/W's Storyline: Opinions?
 
What do you like about B/W's storyline? Was it lengthy enough? Is there anything you think could have been added to improve the storyline? Do you think the post-e4 storyline is creative enough (7 sages)? Basically yeah, just your general opinions about the storylines overall. :)

And if you can't read Japanese, check Serebii/PokeBeach :(

インフェルノの津波 September 24th, 2010 12:31 AM

Well, since I have the Pokebeach version, which translated good, I think Team Plasma was great. Except I would like N to not use the Pokemon in his area, but whatever. I liked N, I actually understood his ideals and for once, I felt like I was the bad guy. Of course, the Grunts were funny as always XD;

Zet September 24th, 2010 12:33 AM

Did you just say 7 sages?! This is quite a possible Zelda reference. Though I've always quite liked the idea of having to battle my way up to the elite 4 instead of just battling them straight away.

インフェルノの津波 September 24th, 2010 12:35 AM

Oh wait well the rest of Isshu was good too, except that I kinda hated how easy it was to beat the Gym Leaders, but the Trainers gave me the challenge.

Choosing how you fight is awesome, except maybe next time they should up the levels but then again it'd be too hard.

●•ΛΣЯӨЩ•● September 24th, 2010 1:13 AM

I just have one word to say; AWESOME.
Its got a 40/40, what else do you want?

MrGriszell September 24th, 2010 1:49 AM

IMO it felt like Finale Fantasy with the whole storyline. I liked how the gym leaders played a part in the story instead of beging someone you just fight. My only concern is how will they top off the 3rd game, and if there is a RSE remake how will they do it these are two different type of games.

PlatinumDude September 24th, 2010 2:19 AM

I haven't played B/W yet, but I did see a few YouTube videos about it. What I didn't like about the storyline is that you don't get to fight the champ prior to the National Dex, and that you battle Reshiram/Zekrom, as well as N during your E4 challenge. I found that disappointing because I normally use the box legends on my final teams when I challenge the E4.

Maxite September 24th, 2010 9:02 AM

I rather like how the story was set up. It pulls you into the game a bit more than previous generations did.

Of course, the battle of N and the legendary during the Elite Four, I both like and don't like. It's nice to have something so different, and yet it just seems like a poor place to have the final villain battle during the Elite Four.

JP September 24th, 2010 9:06 AM

I love the story. So much more interesting than previous ones... it just pulls you in. Something I particularly liked, like MrGriszell said, was that the gym leaders had a bit more of a role to play than just to battle. It felt a bit more...umm, realistic? lol

Blastin'Tyruntz September 24th, 2010 9:20 AM

i liked the story....but i dont liked tht n uses pokemon from his area like choroneko.
btw where to find translated version vause i plays both in japanes and dont understand a word
pm me if you find

123wert50 September 24th, 2010 10:40 AM

It's pretty decent I guess.

Planetes. September 24th, 2010 10:42 AM

Its certainly different, I just don't like how they downgraded the E4, I mean they're the E4.

Kizerzin September 24th, 2010 10:46 AM

I liked the story alot..and the fact that you have to go back and fight a elite four that was a actual challenge was pretty good

Bay September 24th, 2010 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6177917)
Its certainly different, I just don't like how they downgraded the E4, I mean they're the E4.

Well the original G/S/C and the HG/SS games have the Elite 4 downgraded too, though it's because you'll be battling the Kanto Gym leaders and then Red. I think their levels are like that because you might be doing a few things post game stuff. I do know however in B/W you can do a rematch with them and their Pokemon are in higher levels than last time.

As for me, from what I heard about the storyline I personally think it's the best storyline so far. I like gym leaders having slightly important roles like some other people said, the characters, and also the plot twist I like a lot too. Really can't wait until the games come out in the US.

Clefairies September 24th, 2010 6:19 PM

From what I have read about B/W; The storyline is sounding very hopeful and Team Plasma seem to have a very good storyline; maybe possibly the best?

Garringman September 24th, 2010 7:42 PM

I really liked the story and the way everything was set up and N out of all of the villains in the entire series is my definite favorite because of his ideals and the way he acts toward the protagonist throughout the game.

Precious Tears September 24th, 2010 8:43 PM

The story's quite awesome!! But I think the plot and the region itself is too small...
:( It deserves to get a longer plot and the region itself, of course have to be bigger as well!

solarowl September 24th, 2010 8:52 PM

I don't have the game, but I saw video's on it, and I think the E4 shouldn't be smaller than before. Also, i was planning to use Resh and Zek in my team :(.

kohei September 25th, 2010 8:09 AM

I found how the bad guys actually felt like bad guys.
Manipulated son and evil father using his agenda as a cover for his true motives.

Gym leaders standing up to protect what they stand for, and they all actually act on it instead of sending the protagonist on a quest on his own.

I also like how the legendary dragons aren't godly like the previous legendaries that are entwined into the story, but rather stand as as symbols for two different ideals.


Methinks B/W had a much more human-centered story than the previous games.
And I liked it a lot.

Spoiler:

What I found really interesting was Gerchis remarking "Reshiram/Zekrom are, in the end, merely Pokemon. The final outcome is decided by us."

In the previous games where the antagonist wanted to get legendaries for accomplishing their goal, they more or less needed it for power (especially 3rd gen where Aqua/Magma's goals were directly linked with getting the legendary), but Gerchis needs either dragon to fall into N's hands so it can act as a symbol of leadership, not for its abilities.

I guess this made B/W feel much more centered on the power of people, rather than Pokemon.

JP September 25th, 2010 8:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kohei (Post 6180332)
I found how the bad guys actually felt like bad guys.
Manipulated son and evil father using his agenda as a cover for his true motives.

Gym leaders standing up to protect what they stand for, and they all actually act on it instead of sending the protagonist on a quest on his own.

I also like how the legendary dragons aren't godly like the previous legendaries that are entwined into the story, but rather stand as as symbols for two different ideals.


Methinks B/W had a much more human-centered story than the previous games.
And I liked it a lot.

Oooh, so they are father and son? Thats great. Makes sense considering how much they look alike.

kohei September 25th, 2010 8:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 6180347)
Oooh, so they are father and son? Thats great. Makes sense considering how much they look alike.

Sorry if I spoiled it, but I assumed people looking at this thread already knew this.

Any how, yeah, they're revealed to be father-and-son in the end.

Gerchis raised his son from the very start when he was born as a tool for his plans, trapping him in a hidden room and only exposing him to Pokemon injured by people, making him think that humans were imprisoning Pokemon for their own selfish needs.

Gerchis even goes ahead, in the end, to call his son "a half-human, an incomplete monster with no knowledge of how human emotions work", although Cheren replies with the clichéd "no, you're the monster!" line.

JP September 25th, 2010 8:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kohei (Post 6180388)
Sorry if I spoiled it, but I assumed people looking at this thread already knew this.

Any how, yeah, they're revealed to be father-and-son in the end.

Gerchis raised his son from the very start when he was born as a tool for his plans, trapping him in a hidden room and only exposing him to Pokemon injured by people, making him think that humans were imprisoning Pokemon for their own selfish needs.

Gerchis even goes ahead, in the end, to call his son "a half-human, an incomplete monster with no knowledge of how human emotions work", although Cheren replies with the clichéd "no, you're the monster!" line.

That is soooo awesome. This makes me like the story even more now. They definitely stepped it up a notch in the story telling. Here's to hoping the future games have this much and maybe more to their stories.

Åzurε September 25th, 2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kohei (Post 6180388)
Sorry if I spoiled it, but I assumed people looking at this thread already knew this.

Any how, yeah, they're revealed to be father-and-son in the end.

Gerchis raised his son from the very start when he was born as a tool for his plans, trapping him in a hidden room and only exposing him to Pokemon injured by people, making him think that humans were imprisoning Pokemon for their own selfish needs.

Gerchis even goes ahead, in the end, to call his son "a half-human, an incomplete monster with no knowledge of how human emotions work", although Cheren replies with the clichéd "no, you're the monster!" line.

I'm so glad N really is a sympathetic character. /Manly tears

They're deconstructing the previous storylines, which is awesome. So long as the trend continues, I think this is where the series is really starting to grow it's beard.

Haza September 25th, 2010 11:35 AM

I honestly don't get the storyline, how Plasma has anything to do with Team Plasma, or why they are so crazy. Maybe I've got to play the games myself but I don't get it.

MrGriszell September 26th, 2010 12:53 AM

I agree the story is awesome, does anyone believe it can be toped?


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