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Purple Materia September 24th, 2010 10:51 PM

Cheating - when is it okay?
 
In your opinion, is it okay to cheat? When is it okay? What's not okay?

I believe that cheating is okay to obtain things you can't obtain anymore or with another game pack. So using a code to make a certain Pokemon appear is okay, as long as it's not obtainable in your game. But hacking Fly onto a Diglett, or Hydro Pump on a Charmander, isn't okay.

michel1010 September 24th, 2010 11:24 PM

I dont really like cheating on pokemon, it ruins the game.

curiousnathan September 24th, 2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by michel1010 (Post 6179440)
I dont really like cheating on pokemon, it ruins the game.

To expand on that, it ruins the adventure, the fun and the challenge. What is the point of playing a game that isn't fun. The whole point of a game is to have fun and amuse the players. However, that can be overuled by people saying "Oh well cheating is FUN!". Okay, I have cheated once only that to be honest, it's can be okay to cheatif you don't abuse it, but if you do abuse just be ready to suffer some consequences.

Purple Materia September 24th, 2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Curious. (Post 6179492)


Okay, I have cheated once only that to be honest, it's can be okay to cheatif you don't abuse it, but if you do abuse just be ready to suffer some consequences.

Yeah, exactly. I play in an emulator (because I misplaced my Game Boy) and all I really do is make certain Pokemon appear that don't appear in Crystal, but only at the right times, if it makes any sense. Like, once I made it to Cerulean City, I made a Mewtwo appear. All I did was make it appear and set it's level to 75; I caught it legitimately, but weakening it and throwing a Pokeball.

Bibliophibian September 25th, 2010 12:08 AM

Personally, I think cheating ruins the fun and challenge of a game, so I don't really like to do it. If someone really likes cheating, I think that's fine, so long as they're not affecting anyone who wants to play legitimately.

curiousnathan September 25th, 2010 1:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Materia (Post 6179500)
Yeah, exactly. I play in an emulator (because I misplaced my Game Boy) and all I really do is make certain Pokemon appear that don't appear in Crystal, but only at the right times, if it makes any sense. Like, once I made it to Cerulean City, I made a Mewtwo appear. All I did was make it appear and set it's level to 75; I caught it legitimately, but weakening it and throwing a Pokeball.

Lol. Honey, you can't catch it legitmately if it appears not legitmately. :)

Blew September 25th, 2010 4:20 AM

I really don't see the point of cheating, it totally defeats the object of the game. If other people choose to cheat their game, that's fine by me!

last fighter 36 September 25th, 2010 4:42 AM

It says i'm the only one who voted it's never okay.

well it's not

dragoniteuser September 25th, 2010 1:54 PM

it's OK if you do it while you play the game.
it's definitly not OK for competitive battle!

Shnappy September 25th, 2010 2:00 PM

Me, I only think that's it's okay when you clone things. Other than that, I think it just ruins the experience of the game. If you just rip through a game with an AR, where's the fun in that? What's the point of buying the game in the first place?

Timbjerr September 25th, 2010 2:04 PM

Considering that this thread is in the GenI/GenII section, and I have ROMs for all GenI/GenII games short of the elusive English Green, I think it's only fair to cheat so long as you don;t take the game seriously. I recently did a playthrough of Red where I hacked a Mewtwo as my starter and just wrecked everything in the game for the fun of it. XD

shininglatios217 September 25th, 2010 2:29 PM

I used to cheat to get the events. Nintendo never thought about the people in small countries like Costa Rica that can't travel to the United States or Mexico (which is my case). At least all the events are on Wi-Fi now but I wish they would repeat some events so people that missed them could get a second chance (like me with the [email protected] event).

lumiina September 25th, 2010 2:33 PM

It ruins the point of the game. People who actually went to events or imported games to get such pokemon deserve what they have. While people who cheated, even if it's impossible to get such pokemon on their version or in their region, ruin the value of having such a rare pokemon. It's even more sad when cheated pokemon are traded without telling the receiver.

Agent Clank September 25th, 2010 2:36 PM

I don't think its ever okay to cheat on a Pokemon game or in real life.
So yeah, I thinks okay to cheat.

shininglatios217 September 25th, 2010 2:50 PM

lumiina: Maybe that's why Mew stopped being the rarest Pokémon in my country. Now it's Feebas.

littlekid137 September 25th, 2010 4:32 PM

I think it is ok if you have done everything in the game without cheating.

jujuju September 25th, 2010 7:33 PM

Honestly, I think cheating should always be permissible to accomplish the things you badly do not want to do. Eg. Grinding weaker pokemon, catching rare pokemon in certain routes not necessarily by hacking them, but by increasing the speed of the game. I now play on roms to avoid having to erase my handheld games and I personally think that the speed up button actually makes the gaming experience more enjoyable.

Purple Materia September 25th, 2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jujuju (Post 6182080)
...I personally think that the speed up button actually makes the gaming experience more enjoyable.

Yeah, my first playthrough of Silver via emulation lasted I think seven hours; I always used the speed button.

curiousnathan September 25th, 2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoniteuser (Post 6180962)
it's OK if you do it while you play the game.
it's definitly not OK for competitive battle!

Well in my point of view even cheating in the game is wrong. Competitive battling definately, but cheating a sa whole is I think wrong; however it may be appropriate in certain situations where you cannot abotain and event pokemon. No shinies, no normal pokemon just event pokemon. I mean, come on; Shiny pokemon are meant to be rare for a reason their shiny. Making them appear because of code or a cheat is ruining the whole feel of them, all the feelings you get when you realise you've found something very rare and unique dissapear. D:
But meh, I don't have the right to say if people should cheat or not, as long as no-one else forces me to cheat, then but all means go ahead.
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Originally Posted by Shnappy (Post 6180980)
Me, I only think that's it's okay when you clone things. Other than that, I think it just ruins the experience of the game. If you just rip through a game with an AR, where's the fun in that? What's the point of buying the game in the first place?

I don't even think cloning pokemon is allowed to be done without being classified as cheating or getting-around-something. But if you thinks it okay, have fun. :)

Stellar September 26th, 2010 12:05 AM

Cheating is okay when A. you're young and stupid like I was when I hacked Silver, or B. you've finished a game and want to have a little bit of extra fun with it, i.e. forming a team made up entirely of Wonderguard Spiritomb to effectively piss off everyone you know. Points if they're all level one.

Wings Don't Cry September 26th, 2010 12:20 AM

Cheating is perfectly fine if you're having fun and no one is suffering while you do it.

Purple Materia September 26th, 2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Curious. (Post 6179642)


Lol. Honey, you can't catch it legitmately if it appears not legitmately. :)

I meant like weakening it and throwing a Pokeball, as if I did obtain it legitmately.

Lati-Fan95 September 26th, 2010 1:09 AM

I used to think the last answer when I was on a new forum (isn´t existing anymore, it got deleted shortly before the release of Platinum in Europe) where the main point was cheating. First of all, it was really fun but after a while, it just got boring (even if it´s just cheating yourself the Lunar Wing again cuz you wanna keep it and STILL being able to catch Cresselia!^^) . Since then, I think 2 is the way to go. Cheating is okay when you´re only doing it to get events like Celebi (which us Europeans still haven´t gotten in an honest way for 11 years now... and we´re still waiting...) !^^

And @shininglatios: Another reason why Mew´s not that rare anymore is that you can get one in My Pokemon Ranch!^^

Green20 September 26th, 2010 1:15 AM

I used to do it when I was younger but then I developed a challenging attitude so I stopped...and recently my little brother and I have been doing quick run-throughs with each generation(excluding D,P,PT cuz I don't have one) but we got HG,SS and I was beating him by three gyms then he used an action replay and beat me in the same day.

Limey-chan September 27th, 2010 12:03 AM

If its not to gain an unfair advantage in competative battling then meh, it's not a big deal imo.

The only cheats I can say i've used in RBY are the mew cheat and the glitch that lets you skip Brock's gym.


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