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Ho-Oh September 25th, 2010 7:50 AM

Just a note - due to evolutions discussion being popular, I moved the existing posts from the base stats thread to a new thread based on what was posted first about evolutions, so yeah.

ManhattanTheStarr September 25th, 2010 8:16 AM

Something I've noticed with the Pokemon in B/W, is that most of them have final evolutions (or first stages) that don't even look like they belong in their evolution lines.

For example...
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/501.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/502.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png Heh, I'm sure lots of people have noticed this one. I mean, just look at Mijumaru and Futachimaru. They both have the rounded heads, small pointed ears, and somewhat cartoon-like looking shells. You can see the similarity very well. But what's up with Daikenki (I don't even know if that's how you spell it x3)? It suddenly went quadrupedal, and lost every shred of a resemblance that it had to its predecessors.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/519.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/520.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.png Look at the final stage compared to the rest. See any resemblance? I don't get why its chest suddenly turned green, and it lost the pink color in its feet. It doesn't even look like a pigeon anymore. It looks like a quail, or some kind of peacock. =/
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/524.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/525.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/526.pngIn this line, it's the first stage that looks out of place. It has no claws like its evolutions, and doesn't have the red spikes. Instead, they're brown. Not really a HUGE difference, but I just wanted to point that one out. :P
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/551.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/552.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.pngWait, what? What's with the red color? I find it strange that this line kept the same colors for two stages, then suddenly changed. If the middle stage had a different color as well, then it would work out, IMO. But this seems kinda... random, don'tcha think?
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/562.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/563.pngOnce again, look at the first stage. WHAT IS IT? It definitely doesn't look like something Desukan would evolve from. Even if they both have the little cat mask thing. =/
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/585.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/586.pngThe problem with this line, IMO, is that the first stage looks more cartoonish and feminine, but the final form looks like an actual dear, and somehow became masculine. I still like these two, though. :>

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/602.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/603.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.pngWhat's up with diiiiis? First it looks like a...uhhh...y'know (^^'), then turns into an eel. It just seems strange to me. :x
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/619.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/620.pngOK, I REALLY don't get this one. The first stage looks like something out of Winnie The Pooh (or Winnie The Pooh himself!), then it becomes all feminine lookin', and looks like an Espeon. O_o

But yeah, I just wanted to say that. x3
I think GF may be trying something new with the evolutions n' stuff. I'm also not very fond of the extreme leveling gaps between some Pokemon. >:/

Devil Flamingo September 25th, 2010 10:55 AM

Eh, I like the unexpected evolutions. It's better than evolutions like Chillachino which look just like its previous one, except slightly bigger, and obviously with better stats and more fur. I know some people dislike it, and while I do not (I think it's cute and I like its scarf-fur), I really do think that for something that evolves with a stone it should have changed lots more. O_o

Anyways, I'm actually cool with Feebas' new evolution method; I honestly love Milotic but since the 4th gen he's been inferior to many a bulky water, so it's pointless to continue to evolve this thing via such a complex method when it's not even all that good to begin with. It does take the uniqueness out of its evolution method, though; I'm starting to think GF hates it for some reason and that's why all they gave it this gen was Cute Charm (via DW... can you say idiotic? the hell is she supposed to do with that?) and a common evo method. :>

Finally, I'm actually annoyed with some evolution levels. There's no reason why our toxic pokeball mushroom friend should evolve at level 39, seriously; it's going to be a struggle raising the little thing, but at least you'll be rewarded somewhat because as far as Grass/Poison types go it's got the best defenses of any of them (barring Venusaur) and the best ability to work with it (Regeneration via DW, though Effect Spore isn't bad).

Of course, in the case of stuff like Urgamoth it sorta makes sense, since it's an epic fire moth, although I still think level 59 is a bit too much; it should have evolved at level 45-50, or else with a Fire Stone or Sun Stone, since it's not like the bug is common anyway so you wouldn't find such a powerful Pokemon right away. :P

Makbets September 25th, 2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo (Post 6180481)
Eh, I like the unexpected evolutions. It's better than evolutions like Chillachino which look just like its previous one, except slightly bigger, and obviously with better stats and more fur. I know some people dislike it, and while I do not (I think it's cute and I like its scarf-fur), I really do think that for something that evolves with a stone it should have changed lots more. O_o

Anyways, I'm actually cool with Feebas' new evolution method; I honestly love Milotic but since the 4th gen he's been inferior to many a bulky water, so it's pointless to continue to evolve this thing via such a complex method when it's not even all that good to begin with. It does take the uniqueness out of its evolution method, though; I'm starting to think GF hates it for some reason and that's why all they gave it this gen was Cute Charm (via DW... can you say idiotic? the hell is she supposed to do with that?) and a common evo method. :>

Finally, I'm actually annoyed with some evolution levels. There's no reason why our toxic pokeball mushroom friend should evolve at level 39, seriously; it's going to be a struggle raising the little thing, but at least you'll be rewarded somewhat because as far as Grass/Poison types go it's got the best defenses of any of them (barring Venusaur) and the best ability to work with it (Regeneration via DW, though Effect Spore isn't bad).

Of course, in the case of stuff like Urgamoth it sorta makes sense, since it's an epic fire moth, although I still think level 59 is a bit too much; it should have evolved at level 45-50, or else with a Fire Stone or Sun Stone, since it's not like the bug is common anyway so you wouldn't find such a powerful Pokemon right away. :P

I agree, unexpected evolutions are better then expected...

Åzurε September 25th, 2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr (Post 6180353)
Something I've noticed with the Pokemon in B/W, is that most of them have final evolutions (or first stages) that don't even look like they belong in their evolution lines.

For example...
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/501.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/502.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png Heh, I'm sure lots of people have noticed this one. I mean, just look at Mijumaru and Futachimaru. They both have the rounded heads, small pointed ears, and somewhat cartoon-like looking shells. You can see the similarity very well. But what's up with Daikenki (I don't even know if that's how you spell it x3)? It suddenly went quadrupedal, and lost every shred of a resemblance that it had to its predecessors.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/519.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/520.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.png Look at the final stage compared to the rest. See any resemblance? I don't get why its chest suddenly turned green, and it lost the pink color in its feet. It doesn't even look like a pigeon anymore. It looks like a quail, or some kind of peacock. =/
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/524.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/525.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/526.pngIn this line, it's the first stage that looks out of place. It has no claws like its evolutions, and doesn't have the red spikes. Instead, they're brown. Not really a HUGE difference, but I just wanted to point that one out. :P
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/551.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/552.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.pngWait, what? What's with the red color? I find it strange that this line kept the same colors for two stages, then suddenly changed. If the middle stage had a different color as well, then it would work out, IMO. But this seems kinda... random, don'tcha think?
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/562.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/563.pngOnce again, look at the first stage. WHAT IS IT? It definitely doesn't look like something Desukan would evolve from. Even if they both have the little cat mask thing. =/
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/585.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/586.pngThe problem with this line, IMO, is that the first stage looks more cartoonish and feminine, but the final form looks like an actual dear, and somehow became masculine. I still like these two, though. :>

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/602.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/603.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.pngWhat's up with diiiiis? First it looks like a...uhhh...y'know (^^'), then turns into an eel. It just seems strange to me. :x
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/619.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/620.pngOK, I REALLY don't get this one. The first stage looks like something out of Winnie The Pooh (or Winnie The Pooh himself!), then it becomes all feminine lookin', and looks like an Espeon. O_o

But yeah, I just wanted to say that. x3
I think GF may be trying something new with the evolutions n' stuff. I'm also not very fond of the extreme leveling gaps between some Pokemon. >:/

Gigiga-whatsit (the dark blue with the red spikes) is justified by it's Pokedex entry.

I think the gators can be excused for sheer awesome. Has anyone here heard their cries?

Little Desukan is a burial mask.

Shijika's line... Well, somebody's been watching Bambi.

The eel things... I think the first form is a cuttlefish or a lamprey or a leech or all of the above.

I don't think I can justify the others. xD

インフェルノの津波 September 25th, 2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr (Post 6180353)
Something I've noticed with the Pokemon in B/W, is that most of them have final evolutions (or first stages) that don't even look like they belong in their evolution lines.

For example...
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/501.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/502.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png Heh, I'm sure lots of people have noticed this one. I mean, just look at Mijumaru and Futachimaru. They both have the rounded heads, small pointed ears, and somewhat cartoon-like looking shells. You can see the similarity very well. But what's up with Daikenki (I don't even know if that's how you spell it x3)? It suddenly went quadrupedal, and lost every shred of a resemblance that it had to its predecessors.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/519.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/520.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.png Look at the final stage compared to the rest. See any resemblance? I don't get why its chest suddenly turned green, and it lost the pink color in its feet. It doesn't even look like a pigeon anymore. It looks like a quail, or some kind of peacock. =/
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/524.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/525.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/526.pngIn this line, it's the first stage that looks out of place. It has no claws like its evolutions, and doesn't have the red spikes. Instead, they're brown. Not really a HUGE difference, but I just wanted to point that one out. :P
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/551.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/552.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.pngWait, what? What's with the red color? I find it strange that this line kept the same colors for two stages, then suddenly changed. If the middle stage had a different color as well, then it would work out, IMO. But this seems kinda... random, don'tcha think?
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/562.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/563.pngOnce again, look at the first stage. WHAT IS IT? It definitely doesn't look like something Desukan would evolve from. Even if they both have the little cat mask thing. =/
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/585.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/586.pngThe problem with this line, IMO, is that the first stage looks more cartoonish and feminine, but the final form looks like an actual dear, and somehow became masculine. I still like these two, though. :>

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/602.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/603.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.pngWhat's up with diiiiis? First it looks like a...uhhh...y'know (^^'), then turns into an eel. It just seems strange to me. :x
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/619.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/620.pngOK, I REALLY don't get this one. The first stage looks like something out of Winnie The Pooh (or Winnie The Pooh himself!), then it becomes all feminine lookin', and looks like an Espeon. O_o

But yeah, I just wanted to say that. x3
I think GF may be trying something new with the evolutions n' stuff. I'm also not very fond of the extreme leveling gaps between some Pokemon. >:/


I'm guessing that Warubiru has been sunbathing a lot, or maybe that's blood. Remember Charmeleon?

Anyway, Meraruba is now my favorite Pokemon. It's so cute, and I like how you receive it and how strong it becomes. Kibago's also on my list.

Kanto_Johto September 25th, 2010 1:40 PM

I heard there's a Pokemon that evolves at level 59?

That's hardcore. Seriously. I thought level 55 to get a Dragonite or Tyranitar was heavy enough.

MartinJF September 25th, 2010 1:42 PM

Well... I love The Dark-Steel line, though The final evo lost most of its awesomeness.
Chanderaa's evo line is also cool, and make sense: Candle-Chandlier. Love it :P

There Are some Crazy stats on The new pkmn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6180913)
I heard there's a Pokemon that evolves at level 59?

That's hardcore. Seriously. I thought level 55 to get a Dragonite or Tyranitar was heavy enough.

Actually, there is a pokemon that evolves at lvl 64 :P

Kanto_Johto September 25th, 2010 1:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinJF (Post 6180919)
Actually, there is a pokemon that evolves at lvl 64 :P

...

*Faints*


Seriously though, that's outrageously high. Although I'm sure the Pokemon is outrageously good.

Surmonter September 25th, 2010 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr (Post 6180353)
Something I've noticed with the Pokemon in B/W, is that most of them have final evolutions (or first stages) that don't even look like they belong in their evolution lines.

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/519.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/520.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.png Look at the final stage compared to the rest. See any resemblance? I don't get why its chest suddenly turned green, and it lost the pink color in its feet. It doesn't even look like a pigeon anymore. It looks like a quail, or some kind of peacock. =/

I don't think you understand the concept of evolution. Also, there is tons of resemblance. You're just paying attention to color, which doesn't matter at all. And that pink mask is only for the male form.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/524.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/525.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/526.pngIn this line, it's the first stage that looks out of place. It has no claws like its evolutions, and doesn't have the red spikes. Instead, they're brown. Not really a HUGE difference, but I just wanted to point that one out. :P

Again, I don't think you understand the concept of evolution. Also, the red spikes are justified.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/551.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/552.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.pngWait, what? What's with the red color? I find it strange that this line kept the same colors for two stages, then suddenly changed. If the middle stage had a different color as well, then it would work out, IMO. But this seems kinda... random, don'tcha think?

Color doesn't matter, at all. Things change colors in nature. Don't see why Pokemon can't.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/562.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/563.pngOnce again, look at the first stage. WHAT IS IT? It definitely doesn't look like something Desukan would evolve from. Even if they both have the little cat mask thing. =/

It's an Egyptian burial mask. The second stage is an Egyptian burial coffin. Makes perfect sense to me.


http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/602.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/603.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.pngWhat's up with diiiiis? First it looks like a...uhhh...y'know (^^'), then turns into an eel. It just seems strange to me. :x

They're leeches, not eels. Also, since leeches do not need to live in water, and they do not breathe water either, that explains the lack of water type. Although I do think they should have been Poison or Bug as a primary type and not only electric.

My comments are in the red.

dragoniteuser September 25th, 2010 2:09 PM

I had really high hopes fot the pidgein Pokemon. In my opinion they ruined it.
But I love Gigaiasu evo line! In my opinion three best pokemon of the V gen!

Devil Flamingo September 25th, 2010 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6180913)
I heard there's a Pokemon that evolves at level 59?

That's hardcore. Seriously. I thought level 55 to get a Dragonite or Tyranitar was heavy enough.

Yep, Meraruba the caterpillar (Bug/Fire) evolves into Urugamosu the moth (Bug/Fire).

And the one that reaches its final stage at level 64 is our pseudo-legendary (Dark/Dragon hydra called Sazando; nicknamed Hydragon).

- - - - - - - - -

@Surmonter:

Actually, I would argue that they are lampreys, not leeches, and the electric typing comes from the so-called electric eel (which is not an eel, or a lamprey for that matter). Why it doesn't have a Water typing is beyond me, but then again, who cares? It doesn't need it, since it's got Levitate, which makes it awesome 'cause it has no weak. I won't be using it because it looks gross and disgusting to me (just like real leeches, eels, lampreys and electric eels) but yeah, I don't think it's a leech. However, perhaps it's based on elements of all these critters combined...?

What do you think?

ManhattanTheStarr September 25th, 2010 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6180994)
My comments are in the red.

I don't understand evolution? OK, sure. Not gonna argue about it. =/

King Gumball September 25th, 2010 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManhattanTheStarr http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/generationv/buttons/viewpost.png

Something I've noticed with the Pokemon in B/W, is that most of them have final evolutions (or first stages) that don't even look like they belong in their evolution lines.
Spoiler:

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/519.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/520.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.png Look at the final stage compared to the rest. See any resemblance? I don't get why its chest suddenly turned green, and it lost the pink color in its feet. It doesn't even look like a pigeon anymore. It looks like a quail, or some kind of peacock. =/

I don't think you understand the concept of evolution. Also, there is tons of resemblance. You're just paying attention to color, which doesn't matter at all. And that pink mask is only for the male form.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/524.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/525.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/526.pngIn this line, it's the first stage that looks out of place. It has no claws like its evolutions, and doesn't have the red spikes. Instead, they're brown. Not really a HUGE difference, but I just wanted to point that one out. :P

Again, I don't think you understand the concept of evolution. Also, the red spikes are justified.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/551.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/552.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.pngWait, what? What's with the red color? I find it strange that this line kept the same colors for two stages, then suddenly changed. If the middle stage had a different color as well, then it would work out, IMO. But this seems kinda... random, don'tcha think?

Color doesn't matter, at all. Things change colors in nature. Don't see why Pokemon can't.
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/562.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/563.pngOnce again, look at the first stage. WHAT IS IT? It definitely doesn't look like something Desukan would evolve from. Even if they both have the little cat mask thing. =/

It's an Egyptian burial mask. The second stage is an Egyptian burial coffin. Makes perfect sense to me.


http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/602.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/603.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.pngWhat's up with diiiiis? First it looks like a...uhhh...y'know (^^'), then turns into an eel. It just seems strange to me. :x

They're leeches, not eels. Also, since leeches do not need to live in water, and they do not breathe water either, that explains the lack of water type. Although I do think they should have been Poison or Bug as a primary type and not only electric.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6180994)
My comments are in the red.

I am pretty sure they were lamprey's not leeches.

- Manhattan the Starr- I dont think http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.pngis meant to be a pidgeon anymore. Silimilar to the peacocks the males are colourful so they can attract females.\

Ad with the lamprey line I dont know what the first evo is... It could be the larvae.

ManhattanTheStarr September 25th, 2010 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6181561)
I am pretty sure they were lamprey's not leeches.

- Manhattan the Starr- I dont think http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/521.pngis meant to be a pidgeon anymore. Silimilar to the peacocks the males are colourful so they can attract females.\

Ad with the lamprey line I dont know what the first evo is... It could be the larvae.

Hmmm, that's what I was thinking. :3
The way the males are colorful and the females aren't is basically what gave me that thought. :P

solspear September 25th, 2010 4:53 PM

Caterpie => (level 7) Metapod => (level 10) Butterfree
Kurumiru => (level 20) Kurumayu => (happiness) Hahakomori

They are stronger, but they are a pain in the arse to evolve compared to the good old times

Devil Flamingo September 25th, 2010 5:06 PM

...Speaking of Kenhorou, you guys do realize some of the world's most colourful birds are pigeons and doves, right? I realize the rock pigeon (or common pigeon) is everywhere so one can't help but associate them with dull colours but anyways, the kereru says hi, and check out fruit doves, and don't forget the crowned pigeons, which are actually ground-dwelling birds! Plus Kenhorou has elements of pheasants and such gamebirds, etc. Not trying to show off my knowledge of birds, but though I'd point out that colourful pigeons are far more common than you'd think. ;P

GF isn't making anything up here; dazzling colourful pigeons (male and female) are real. :3

PlatinumDude September 25th, 2010 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solspear (Post 6181592)
Caterpie => (level 7) Metapod => (level 10) Butterfree
Kurumiru => (level 20) Kurumayu => (happiness) Hahakomori

They are stronger, but they are a pain in the arse to evolve compared to the good old times

Maybe the tough evolution methods were made to compensate for the relatively high base stats the new Bug Pokemon have. (like the Fushide line evolving at level 22 and then again at level 30)

ManhattanTheStarr September 25th, 2010 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo (Post 6181638)
...Speaking of Kenhorou, you guys do realize some of the world's most colourful birds are pigeons and doves, right? I realize the rock pigeon (or common pigeon) is everywhere so one can't help but associate them with dull colours but anyways, the kereru says hi, and check out fruit doves, and don't forget the crowned pigeons, which are actually ground-dwelling birds! Plus Kenhorou has elements of pheasants and such gamebirds, etc. Not trying to show off my knowledge of birds, but though I'd point out that colourful pigeons are far more common than you'd think. ;P

GF isn't making anything up here; dazzling colourful pigeons (male and female) are real. :3

Wow, that's interesting. :0
But the female Kenhorou is FAR away from colorful. x3
(Even though they look WAY better than the males, IMO)

King Gumball September 25th, 2010 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo (Post 6181638)
...Speaking of Kenhorou, you guys do realize some of the world's most colourful birds are pigeons and doves, right? I realize the rock pigeon (or common pigeon) is everywhere so one can't help but associate them with dull colours but anyways, the kereru says hi, and check out fruit doves, and don't forget the crowned pigeons, which are actually ground-dwelling birds! Plus Kenhorou has elements of pheasants and such gamebirds, etc. Not trying to show off my knowledge of birds, but though I'd point out that colourful pigeons are far more common than you'd think. ;P

GF isn't making anything up here; dazzling colourful pigeons (male and female) are real. :3

Yeah, I went to the zoo a couple of months ago and almost all the bird in the walk through bird enclosure were super colourful and exotic species of doves, pidgeons, quails and pheasants. The 4 birds that when people think of them they think ugly colours and disgusting city birds, which is completely untrue. Does anyone know what type of dove/pidgeon/quial/pheasanthttp://veekun.com:81/dex/media/black-white/521.pngis?

Surmonter September 25th, 2010 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by solspear (Post 6181592)
Caterpie => (level 7) Metapod => (level 10) Butterfree
Kurumiru => (level 20) Kurumayu => (happiness) Hahakomori

They are stronger, but they are a pain in the arse to evolve compared to the good old times

Pokemon in general are harder to evolve this generation.

We have the highest evolution level ever in this generation, and tons of Pokemon that don't evolve out of their very weak form until the late 40's or 50's!

Urugamosu's pre-evo is pretty weak, doesn't evolve until level 59.

The Dark/Dragon Pokemon's basic stage is very weak, doesn't evolve until level 50. Then that doesn't evolve again until 64. @[email protected]

Winds11 September 25th, 2010 8:33 PM

The way I see it, Shibishirasu is based on the little know larval stage of eels, better known as a Leptocephalus.


And if anything, to me, Kenhorou looks like a Bird-of-Paradise. With the extravagant plumage of the males and comparatively drab coloration of the females, it fits right in.

Planetes. September 25th, 2010 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6181914)
Pokemon in general are harder to evolve this generation.

We have the highest evolution level ever in this generation, and tons of Pokemon that don't evolve out of their very weak form until the late 40's or 50's!

Urugamosu's pre-evo is pretty weak, doesn't evolve until level 59.

The Dark/Dragon Pokemon's basic stage is very weak, doesn't evolve until level 50. Then that doesn't evolve again until 64. @[email protected]

Urugamosu is supossed to be "tough" since Adeku uses it but its just a stupid moth imo

King Gumball September 25th, 2010 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6182222)
Urugamosu is supossed to be "tough" since Adeku uses it but its just a stupid moth imo


Really? I think it is a completely awesome kick-ass moth thats what it is. Have you seen its moves and stats! They are awesome!

Rankurusu September 25th, 2010 9:15 PM

I understand Game freak wanting to make Pokemon higher, but the new evolution levels are rediculous! Kurumiru doesn't evolve until level 22. That's higher then the starter's first evo!


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