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インフェルノの津波 December 19th, 2010 10:03 PM

I'm thinking of buying that game, Cabbage.

Will it keep me busy for a while?

Ninja Caterpie December 19th, 2010 10:04 PM

It's a good game. It kept me busy for a while because I loved it and played it beyond the end (which I've done for, what, two games? it and FFTA2)

インフェルノの津波 December 19th, 2010 10:09 PM

Alright, I'll try to save up and get it, expecting that I can get it at my local Gamestop.

BTW, is Gamecrazy out of business?

Jack O'Neill December 19th, 2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by QuilavaKing (Post 6351105)
I like Bethesda a lot, but even I have to admit that Fallout is seriously lacking.

Never played the original Fallout games, have you? Then again, they were LONG before your time. There was a compilation rerelease, but good luck trying to find it now.

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6351106)


I can always count on you to ruin what was an otherwise nice and civil conversation, Jack.

Opinions, opinions. Not everyone likes what you do, and vice-versa. Go whine about how bad Namco is in T&M.

Golden Sun is still better, though


And I can always count on you to be oblivious and inattentive. There's no such thing as a nice and civil conversation in this place. Also, you will note that I specifically singled out Square Enix as emblematic of the malaise that has been afflicting the Japanese gaming industry for the past few years.

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 6351146)

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Because whenever I say something that doesn't completely agree with you, I must be a xenophobe of everything Western. Wonderful logic there. Maybe you should stop making it seem like Bethesda and Bioware are the speakers of Western developers. Valve, Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, Bungie, and even Irrational Games are all Western studios(as far as I know) and they actually manage to make fun games.

And I don't hate nonlinear games either. I don't hate Bioware despite having lackluster combat. You need to get those demons of stupidity expelled from you immediately.

Oh look, you can post an image macro. How is that relevant to the debate again?

Also, way to move the goalposts. The actual topic was the merits of Japanese "RPGs" and Western RPGs. Instead of actually discussing what you like about Japanese RPGs or further explaining what you didn't like about Fallout 3 (you're yet another person who hasn't played the first two), you namedrop studios that haven't developed or published any RPGs at all. What kind of point are you trying to make? What do the developers of Half-Life, Uncharted, Killzone, Halo, and Bioshock have to do with the developers of Fallout and Final Fantasy?

Ninja Caterpie December 19th, 2010 10:17 PM

Um, he's trying to say that he just doesn't like Western RPGs, not Western developers as a whole (ie. the namedropping of western stuff)

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Just admit that you hate Western developers and nonlinear gameplay already.

Ninja Caterpie December 19th, 2010 11:16 PM

because, audy, we aren't kids. therefore, we argue and troll more. :)

Spherical Ice December 19th, 2010 11:52 PM

And Pokémon is an Eastern RPG?

Alice December 20th, 2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill (Post 6351252)

Never played the original Fallout games, have you? Then again, they were LONG before your time. There was a compilation rerelease, but good luck trying to find it now.

Actually, I've seen it many times recently.

Ninja Caterpie December 20th, 2010 1:10 AM

millions of people worldwide can't be wrong, brah. Eastern RPGs sell tens of millions more than western ones. :P

Cherrim December 20th, 2010 1:11 AM

The only Bethesda game I've played is Oblivion, which I'm playing now. (Well, not this moment but I've been playing it recently.)

I find it a little hard to get into simply because it's so open. @[email protected] I kind of prefer linear plots and characters because I don't get so damn sidetracked so easily! I told myself, in order to actually beat the game so I can get on to other things in my backlog, I'd only do the main quest threads and ignore everything else. That... has not been happening. :( I accidentally ended up in the DLC and now I've just given up on trying to beat it before the end of the year, lol.

It's definitely a matter of taste. x_X I have no attention span so dropping me in a world and letting me go wherever and do whatever is bad, because essentially nothing gets done, but stuff like FF13 was immensely boring exploration-wise. :( I wonder if there's a series that strikes a good balance? I kind of think the Tales of series it the only one I can think of but even that's pretty typical JRPG fare.

Captain Fabio December 20th, 2010 2:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill (Post 6351252)

Never played the original Fallout games, have you? Then again, they were LONG before your time. There was a compilation rerelease, but good luck trying to find it now.

What's with the condescending tone?

This thread took a turn for the worst when I went to sleep! XD

Ninja Caterpie December 20th, 2010 2:12 AM

Most threads take a turn for the worst when they wind under bridges and unwanted passengers join the ride.

Captain Fabio December 20th, 2010 2:18 AM

That isn't the case though, otherwise the whole forum would be in chaos and it doesn't look to be in chaos to me.

It is just some individuals being the catalysts. Trust me, I know about it.

adventuring December 20th, 2010 5:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 6351403)
The only Bethesda game I've played is Oblivion, which I'm playing now. (Well, not this moment but I've been playing it recently.)

If you're a person who can enjoy older uglier games, you should try Morrowind, the prequel to Oblivion. It's better in many ways, for one your character is a lot more customizable and your initial class choice doesn't have to be what you end up as, and there's just endless things to do. But there's a main storyline. Although it's a little weird.

Also, bitter thread is bitter. If you haven't got anything nicer to say about each other, you might as well not say anything at all. /acting parent-ish

Alternative December 20th, 2010 7:09 AM

Everyone seems to be into those RPG/Sandbox games, which is what I consider Fallout 3/New Vegas to be. Basically do whatever you want and follow the main plot if you want to.

Also, I would really really like to have Fable 3.

donavannj December 20th, 2010 7:21 AM

Well, I don't blame them. Sandbox games and simulation games in the vein are awesome. See also: The Movies, Sim City. ^_^

Alternative December 20th, 2010 7:31 AM

I've never been into those sorts of games. Simulation games are alright, but Sandbox is where I draw the line. I've played Fallout 3 and got abducted by aliens and didn't really like it. Heck I even bought Minecraft and got bored of it easily.

I like games where you have a clear mission and you have to complete it to that time. I've enjoyed games like GTA IV and Saints Row and found them enjoyable since they had a mission which you could do, as well as go out and do whatever you feel like.

donavannj December 20th, 2010 7:58 AM

I prefer more open-ended games, and, if one were to log all the hours I spent playing games in my life, probably 55% would be devoted to simulation and strategy games. (It'd be higher, but Pokemon has a pretty large share itself).

Regeneration December 20th, 2010 8:18 AM

The highly technical simulator games are not what I like at all. I just play games for fun, that's just my choice. XD

donavannj December 20th, 2010 8:28 AM

What's your definition of a highly technical simulator?

Regeneration December 20th, 2010 8:37 AM

Flight Simulator X.

I just want to have some casual simulator games.

donavannj December 20th, 2010 8:40 AM

Do you consider Sim City casual? Or The Sims? :3 both games have droves of hardcore fans, though

Regeneration December 20th, 2010 8:42 AM

/shrugs

I've never tried playing those games, so can't say. :x

donavannj December 20th, 2010 9:04 AM

You should totally play those game series. Seriously worth your time. Of course, this is coming from someone who loves games like Sim City and Civilization.

Regeneration December 20th, 2010 9:19 AM

Hmm.. I'll be sure to try those games. My personal favourites are mostly strategy games; Rise of Nations and Command & Conquer series topping my favourites list.


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