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Eternal Nightmare October 18th, 2010 12:17 PM

Really arguing over wheter a video game is good or bad and try to wooo others into your opinion...just wow. Everyone is going to have there opinions so it either just best to ignore the comment or just shut up is what I say. Honestly, I believe. Why sonic is hated so much is not because Sega(almost) but because of his whipplashing nostalgic fanboys who want the original thing.

With the said, yes I am a Sonic fan and I have been dashing through loop de loops with the little rodent since the beggining. I am not nostalgic when it comes to something new as I want a fresh an new experience with games and although I haven't played Sonic 4 I think I does that completly. The homing attack makes it fresh and sets it outside from its genesis days and includes in a bit of something gained from Sonics poor 3D days. From what I seen and read the controls are indeed tight and when Sega want to fix the gravity they literally gave sonic a real gravitational pull towards the ground..

Anyway, I think the main purpose of this game was to cater to the undying appetite of the nostalgic sega fanboys who grew up with Sonic and that's why everything seems to be rehashed levels and bosses...something that has actually not impressed me but the stage do look hella fun though. The soundtrack isn't really that great in my opinion as well but it still gives off a nice classic and viberant feel like the originals. The game is pretty good to me but I'm hoping for some originality and creativity in episode 2. Also I think people tend to forget that this game is Episodic so this is the beggining so please stop the crap and play all the episodes together -back to back before judging the WHOLE game

Barney. October 18th, 2010 12:20 PM

Just want to talk about the speed/platforming thing. He's called Sonic. BLAST PROCESSING.


Anyway, 4 is ok..It does feel sluggish, and is WAY too zoomed in, impossible to not run into something and lose those rings. It's still pretty fun though.

o0PinkSquid0o October 18th, 2010 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney. (Post 6231471)
Just want to talk about the speed/platforming thing. He's called Sonic. BLAST PROCESSING.


Anyway, 4 is ok..It does feel sluggish, and is WAY too zoomed in, impossible to not run into something and lose those rings. It's still pretty fun though.

OMG yes! I forgot to mention how zoomed in it is! I tried to play it again last night, was doing the casino night zone, now srsly thats one of the easiest zones ever and I still ran into multiple enemies because I just couldn't see them coming. Stupid camera

Crystal-Heart October 18th, 2010 5:50 PM

I'm enjoying Sonic the Hedgehog 4. Its what I was hoping for. Its a continuation of the classic Genesis games, but its not a carbon copy of them like MegaMan 9 & 10 (which are still great games). I think the speed was alright, I remember in the Genesis games, I would usually run faster then the screen could scroll. The homing attack is actually really good. I remember they tried implementing it into Sonic Rush and it didn't work so well, this time it does.

Also, one of the things I am most excited about was when I got the 7th Chaos Emerald, I was able to turn into Super Sonic! How long has it been since we could play as Super Sonic on the normal levels? I missed it.

My personal belief is that Sonic's main problem is the hold over nostalgic fans that have hated the games since Sonic Adventure and want them to produce carbon copies of the old games.

o0PinkSquid0o October 18th, 2010 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 6232237)

My personal belief is that Sonic's main problem is the hold over nostalgic fans that have hated the games since Sonic Adventure and want them to produce carbon copies of the old games.

That is not true, I loved sonic adventure battle 2 and I loved sonic rush (I also loved him in super smash bros brawl :P). Just because you're a sonic fan DOES NOT mean you have to LOVE EVERYTHING he's in :S thats just silly, you're allowed to dislike things you'd usually have liked if it is actually bad.

I hate it when people use the nostalgic thing in the wrong way.

And thats actually another thing I didn't like about sonic 4, the fact that the first stage was almost exactly the same as sonic 1's first stage and the first boss, exactly the same.
I don't want the games to be the same, I just wanted Sonic to feel as smooth as he used to and they failed me.

Pokémandias October 18th, 2010 7:06 PM

This is going to be mad trolling because I am a huge Sonic hater. Sure, like everybody I liked the original Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic & Knuckles but they literally have not made a good Sonic game since then and there are THOUSANDS of them. It's come to the point where when they announce there's going to be a new Sonic game it's like saying there's going to be a new Barbies Horse Adventure game starring the Olsen Twins. Sonic is synonymous with bad games as far as I'm concerned.

I did play Sonic 4, and even though it's better than most, at best it's worse than New Super Mario Bros. but with nothing good in between.

ソラ October 18th, 2010 11:57 PM

1] - Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 1 - is only the 1st episode of the game, it isnt the full game, so sit down and wait for what is in store.

2] - He is slow so what. it helps you watch out for close calls falls. like what Pixy said its platforming.

3] - I enjoyed the game, as a Fan of the type of the game of Sonic the Hedgehog, 2, 3, and Sonic and Knuckles, I approve of this game, and I cant wait for more.

skppy1225 October 19th, 2010 10:14 AM

I disagree completely. I think the game is absolutely fantastic, and a great reboot of a series that needed it.

I don't see why people are saying that the games are slow. It's not about speed, it's about platforming. It's not about being able to race through a level in under 30 seconds, it's about being able to dodge a barrage of enemies, pitfalls, and other traps and still make it through the level. The speed is just like the original games - it's simply there to compliment the experience.

I will admit that the special stages were a bit annoying. I did manage to get all 7 Chaos Emeralds, but it was still pretty tricky to do. The final level was also pretty difficult and I'm still trying to earn the Untouchable trophy.

Overall, I thought it was a fantastic start to Sonic 4 and I certainly can't wait to see the rest!

The 100 Mega Shock October 19th, 2010 10:31 AM

Sonic's model is pretty much the same height on-screen as his sprite is in Sonic 1. Taking the widescreen into account, you've in fact got a greater horizontal viewing area.

Crystal-Heart October 19th, 2010 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6232301)


That is not true, I loved sonic adventure battle 2 and I loved sonic rush (I also loved him in super smash bros brawl :P). Just because you're a sonic fan DOES NOT mean you have to LOVE EVERYTHING he's in :S thats just silly, you're allowed to dislike things you'd usually have liked if it is actually bad.

I know, I don't like the Secret Rings game. However, I prefer Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to Sonic Rush. Sonic was too fast in Rush and his homing attack seldom worked in those games.

I wasn't saying this in regards to you, per se, but other fans I've seen who constantly whine and cry that Sonic isn't short and chubby, that his quills are too long, he's too tall, or that his eyes are green. I've seen people who's entire complaints about Sonic 4 before its release were that and that alone.

When it comes to Sonic games, Sonic 3 & Knuckles (aka True Sonic 3) and Sonic Adventure 2 are my favorite games. Sonic 4 isn't perfect, but its definitely a step in the right direction.

o0PinkSquid0o October 19th, 2010 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 6234089)
I know, I don't like the Secret Rings game. However, I prefer Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to Sonic Rush. Sonic was too fast in Rush and his homing attack seldom worked in those games.

I wasn't saying this in regards to you, per se, but other fans I've seen who constantly whine and cry that Sonic isn't short and chubby, that his quills are too long, he's too tall, or that his eyes are green. I've seen people who's entire complaints about Sonic 4 before its release were that and that alone.

When it comes to Sonic games, Sonic 3 & Knuckles (aka True Sonic 3) and Sonic Adventure 2 are my favorite games. Sonic 4 isn't perfect, but its definitely a step in the right direction.

I agree the homing in sonic rush was pretty bad, I just though sonic rush felt more like a sonic game then most of the newer ones did.

Also I actually like the way new sonic looks. I just wish his speed matched what it used to :(

A Pixy October 19th, 2010 7:57 PM

There was a homing attack in Sonic Rush?

I WAS NEVER INFORMED. I knew, I just didn't care to use it.

Witch October 20th, 2010 6:01 AM

beat it at a friends house who bought the whole game & really, I don't think it's terrible, it's just not what I was expecting. There's certainly fun to be had here & it's a heck of a nostalgia trip. My problem is the fact that it's being released in episodes. >___> I mean, I can't do anything about that, but seriously. Seriously!?

o0PinkSquid0o October 20th, 2010 2:17 PM

yeah.. does that mean we have to pay $20 per episode?? What if there ends up being 8 - 10 of them?? ridiculous

Yuoaman October 20th, 2010 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Para-Dox (Post 6231386)
I haven't played the demo, but i cannot honestly understand all the bashing for this game. Why are pepole hating this game because of the psycis. Is that the least you could complan about?

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Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6235548)
yeah.. does that mean we have to pay $20 per episode?? What if there ends up being 8 - 10 of them?? ridiculous

If there are more than three episodes I will be greatly surprised. It wouldn't be economical to charge more than $60 for a 'full' game.

A Pixy October 20th, 2010 4:17 PM

Allow me to do the math.

15 dollars per episode.

There will be 4 episodes.

$15 x 4 Episodes = $60

Each episode contains 4 zones and a Doomsday/Death Egg/Final type act.

Each Zone consists of 3 acts + said Final Acts.

Within the 4 episodes, there will 16 Zones and 4 Doomsday/Death Egg/Final type acts.

3 x 16 + 4 = 52

The 60 dollar entry price / 52 act number = .86

You're paying about 86 cents per act sooo...

I don't see the problem. o3o

o0PinkSquid0o October 20th, 2010 4:20 PM

Firstly games in Australia cost more than they do in America, I paid $20 for act 1.
Secondly I didn't know it was confirmed to have 4 acts only
Thirdly, I think $80 is too much for a sonic game.

Crystal-Heart October 20th, 2010 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6234235)


I agree the homing in sonic rush was pretty bad, I just though sonic rush felt more like a sonic game then most of the newer ones did.

Also I actually like the way new sonic looks. I just wish his speed matched what it used to :(

I think his speed is fine in Sonic 4, I think he's about the same speed he was in Sonic 1.

A Pixy October 21st, 2010 6:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 6236080)
I think his speed is fine in Sonic 4, I think he's about the same speed he was in Sonic 1.

Don't argue with this guy, he's under the illusion Sonic's speed comes before his platforming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6235867)
Firstly games in Australia cost more than they do in America, I paid $20 for act 1.
Secondly I didn't know it was confirmed to have 4 acts only
Thirdly, I think $80 is too much for a sonic game.

$1.53 per act doesn't sound that horrible either. :<

o0PinkSquid0o October 21st, 2010 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by THAT WONDERFUL PIXY GUY! (Post 6238338)
Don't argue with this guy, he's under the illusion Sonic's speed comes before his platforming.



$1.53 per act doesn't sound that horrible either. :<

No one was arguing with me :S He thinks the speed is fine, I don't.

$80 for a mediocre game that I was actually looking forward to is a lot of money for me. I have bills, a mortgage and food to put on the table.

Also, I have to save for fable 3 ;_;

A Pixy October 21st, 2010 7:11 PM

That's why you don't have to pay it all at once. Just 20 dollars every few months. :<

o0PinkSquid0o October 21st, 2010 7:14 PM

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Originally Posted by THAT WONDERFUL PIXY GUY! (Post 6238410)
That's why you don't have to pay it all at once. Just 20 dollars every few months. :<

Or I just wont buy any more Acts until I have nothing else to play.

Crystal-Heart October 22nd, 2010 3:00 AM

I think its funny people are complaining about the price when there are people who pay $15 a month to play an online game.

Not to mention, look at the price of some games after you pay for DLC and the like.

o0PinkSquid0o October 22nd, 2010 3:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 6238823)
I think its funny people are complaining about the price when there are people who pay $15 a month to play an online game.

Not to mention, look at the price of some games after you pay for DLC and the like.

well if you're a person who plays MMO's that have monthly fees and you complain about the price then yeah bit silly. But I don't play them :( And I've never bought DLC :(

Hewitt October 22nd, 2010 3:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 6238823)
I think its funny people are complaining about the price when there are people who pay $15 a month to play an online game.

Not to mention, look at the price of some games after you pay for DLC and the like.

I laugh a bit when I see plenty on IGN's forums bashing the price, yet think how many of them paid the same for three new MW2 maps and two copy and paste jobs.

Anyhow, this game is taking most of my time atm, trying do everything possible. Struggling to get the chaos emeralds though, anyone else finding it difficult at times?


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