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Old Pokemon in Gen V
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This thread is ONLY to discuss changes made to Gen I-IV Pokemon or additions that make certain Pokemon better or worse. Examples: Moveset changes --
Ability changes --
The question to answer, though is: what changes are you most looking forward to playing with once the game comes out in English? |
Shinx got magnet rise, which can really help Luxray.
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Ninetales is amazing now. It got exactly what it needed to compete against its fellow Fire-types.
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About Shedinja and Life Gamble..
Maybe when you use it at exactly 1 HP, it kills yourself and the Pokemon you use it on instantly (1-hit KO) |
Okay... How about the type changes for Rotom??
PLEASE tell me that not all of them have Levitate?! Fan Rotom is part Flying type now... Levitate and Flying?! What the heck is with that? XD |
Actually, Cotton Guard would definitely be useful on Ampharos if you would prefer it to Reflect. With his good HP and SpDef, a defensive Ampharos is a mini-tank. Slap a Calm or Sassy Nature on the thing, make it have Cotton Guard or Reflect, and possibly Light Screen or Thunder Wave, plus two attacks, and the wool-less sheep is set for life, yep. :D Cotton Guard works wonders on my Elfoon whether I use it in sync with Substitute or Protect, or even by itself. Never underestimate the power to max out your defense in only two turns. :D I can also see defensive Altaria sets running this move; it's epic win. The only other non-5th-gen pogey that got it is Jumpluff, but just like with Marakacchi, I don't see how it's going to use it given its defenses. As far as I'm concerned, only Altaria, Ampharos and Elfoon have a base defense stat anywhere near decent enough to warrant the use of this move (90, 75, and 85 respectively).
I'll post about other changes lately; gotta do homework now lol. |
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Blaziken gets Speed Boost to boost its mediocre Speed over several turns. It also gets Hi Jump Kick as a more reliable STAB move than Superpower. |
I love the additions of new moves and dream world abilities for gen 3 Pokemon :)
Though I think that swamperts dsa isn't as good as they could have given it, they should have given it swift swim...as it's fast on mud and rain and the ground make mud... |
I lol'd at shedinja, I'd rather have wonder guard
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edit I'm excited that Sableye is actually usable now. He gained Mischievous Heart so he now has priority Substitute, Recover, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Sunny Day, Rain Dance, and Confuse Ray. Even Garchomp can't kill Sableye unboosted. |
I'm interested in the new Shuckle move, Power Split, which not only makes it that much more of a wall, it allows it to attack back and actually do some damage. Combined with Power Trick, this makes Shuckle a strong tank with an ungodly attack stat, high special defense, and a lower defense stat which doesn't matter because the opponent just had its attack halved anyway. Of course, this takes a while to set up and only leaves room for two attacks, but I'm excited as a Shuckle fan that the little guy can now fight back instead of just absorbing damage.
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Oh, and if Life Gamble on Shedinja doesn't prove GF likes to troll people, I don't know what does. ...Wait, no, hold on. Real trolling would be for Blissey, Wailord or Mamanbou to learn Life Gamble and fire off a special move off their huge HP, hah (though Life Gamble is special, meaning Mamanbou wouldn't be so good with it given her pathetic spA, but Blissey and Wailor would make awesome use of it all the same, hmmm). Anyways, other goodies that I'm excited about include Regeneration Tangrowth. This guy really needed something to differentiate him from all other Grass types and GF finally delivered. I adore Tangrowth, but his boring abilities in DP made me stop using him, and sent him to UU after a few months in UU. Being able to recover HP with that awesome base 100 is gonna be win. Pokeball Mushroom makes better use of Regeneration though, with one less weak, just as many resistances, access to Spore, and 114 base HP. :D |
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I haven't been really keeping up with the changes regarding other Pokemon, but drought and drizzle in the first post? I dunno, those abilities don't really match up with those two imo, but oh well, GF's choice. :x Seems more for stronger Pokemon? idk (then again they're probably strong and I don't even know probably lol). |
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Can anyone say hello Speed Boost Blaziken? :) I was also a little sad about the Rotom form type changes, but it also brings in some crazy new type combos, like Grass/Electric, Ice/Electric, and my favorite, Fire/Electric. Though without the ghost typing anymore, what's gonna happen to it in the metagame? Hm hm hmmm.
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Lol that is pretty pathetic, only inflicting 1Hp then dieing. What a waste. |
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Oooh, and what about Porygon2 with the new hold item Evolution stone?? (Which raises both defenses of a Pokemon capable of evolution one stage) He is now a GODLY tank!! I mean he now has the ability to wall as well as Pokemon like Skarmory and Lugia! And with Trace, which can destroy Pokemon like Gyarados, Jolteon, Heatran! (Just to name a few) With Recover as well! I really hope he doesn't get banished to Uber or something. ;~;
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I laugh at Shedinja. If I manage to acquire one with Life Gamble, I'd keep it just for lulz. Claw Sharpen+ Baton Pass has the possibility of being a new trick for Sheddy.
Lapras has Hydration to go with Rest now. Bulky waters seem to have gotten some good tricks overall, as well. Boiling Water seems a viable substitute for Surf in some cases. |
Life Gamble + Shedinja might see some sort of use. When it's up against a Pokemon with 1 HP left (will be obvious when the opponent hangs on using Sturdy, Endure or Focus Sash), it can use Life Gamble and take the opponent with it. Other than that, it's a lulzy combo.
Sceptile + Unburden is pretty much pointless, IMO, because Sceptile is fast enough already. |
Sabeleye, Lickilicky, and most importantly, Ditto all got major improvements that will likely help them rise in usage. Heck, even Seaking got an immunity to Electric attacks. As for those worrying about it's former position of one of the worst fully evolved Pokémon it the game, don't worry, Lumineon fills up that space left behind quite nicely, so Luvdisc won't feel so lonely.
As for Porygon2... I hoped... I thought of the idea... I dreamt of the notion... As soon as I learned of the Miracle [of Evolution]... I cheered. Porygon2, now equipped with the Prevolution Stone, has defenses on par with giants such as Deoxys-D and Lugia! Coupled with the fact that It has higher Special Attack then both, along with Trace, makes it very, very formidable. However... As for Porygon-Z on the other hand, all it got was Analyze (This coupled with the fact that it is the only Pokémon to learn Trick-Room naturally is starting to make me think that Game Freak considers it bulky...), a hand-me-down from Porygon2, and Psycho-Shock, which though is only really useful for taking down Blissey, is still a much better option to attempting to go mixed (no thanks to Download), or relying on Hyper Beam. Oh well, I'm just happy that Porygon2 is now to the extreme! (Being able to learn Curse again wouldn't hurt, though!) |
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