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SirKamyk October 27th, 2010 10:06 AM

Buy it? No? Yes?
 
I'm thinking about buying either SoulSilver or HeartGold, but have not made up my mind yet: see, going through Platinum was fair enough, it is my first ever Pokemon game, but won't HG and SS be pretty much the same thing only with a different region, storyline and Pokemon?
By that I mean catch, train, collect.
I can't imagine doing that the second time around, it would be so tedious to build up my team again...

dyenguard October 27th, 2010 10:44 AM

i would definitly buy it, it is about 30 times better than platinum lol. if you have any friends with DS's than you can trade your pokemon from platinum to HG SS, so you shouldnt have a problem

chiperoo October 27th, 2010 10:53 AM

Well in the most basic sense, yes its the same formula of catch, train, collect so if thats a hassle for you then idk if buying another pokemon game would be the right choice. However, Soul Silver & Heart Gold really are awesome games. The ones they're based off of (silver & gold for the old gameboy) are the favorites of almost anyone I've ever know whos played pokemon. If it helps when I found out they were doing SS/HG it convinced me to get back into the games =)

SirKamyk October 27th, 2010 10:53 AM

How better? New moves or something? Better AI and stuff?

rogoku October 27th, 2010 11:54 AM

Contests are gone. Pokeathelon in
Same Battle Frontier
2 REgions 16 gyms
E4 stronger second time.
Ai and Graphics updated.
Wifi Events
Custimized safari zone

Superjub October 27th, 2010 12:02 PM

I would say yes, buy it. Most of the Pokemon in Heary Gold are different to the ones in Platinum, so you can experiment with Pokemon you've never used before. Plus, there are two regions, so it should last a little bit longer than Platinum. ;) Personally, I think Soul Silver/Heart Gold are much better than Platinum.

Fushigidane-Chan October 27th, 2010 12:04 PM

I found the game worse than Platinum, but given you haven't played through the originals, I'd recommend that you pick a version up. There's not much of a difference between the two at all, so it's not worth picking up both.

Necrø October 27th, 2010 12:04 PM

You've also go the new feature "The Pokewalker" which is just cool :)
I really think you should get the game although it is similar to Platinum.

TheBestOne October 27th, 2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyenguard (Post 6250809)
i would definitly buy it, it is about 30 times better than platinum lol. if you have any friends with DS's than you can trade your pokemon from platinum to HG SS, so you shouldnt have a problem

I wouldn't say it's about 30 times better than platinum but graphics wise it's definitely better and also the Pokewalker thing as well is pretty cool

But definitely buy one or the other - but not both.

Chord October 27th, 2010 12:33 PM

I think you should get it. I had to wait a long time to get mine and it was an excruciating time period.

There are quite a few major changes like rogoku mentioned and the Pokemon are mainly different to Pt since it's two completely different regions.

thatboynamedmax October 27th, 2010 12:38 PM

its worth getting it is the most impressive game made so far

GFA October 27th, 2010 12:48 PM

I put it off for a long while, once I got it I deeply regretted it. Go buy it now.

SirKamyk October 27th, 2010 12:55 PM

I think you guys actually convinced me :D

Chord October 27th, 2010 12:58 PM

Then we've done our job ;P

SandslashFTW October 27th, 2010 1:19 PM

It's thousands times better than Platinum. Hopefully you'll like it and see what real Pokemon look like.

Rucario October 27th, 2010 2:00 PM

HG and SS feature the two best regions. No, that's not an opinion, that's a fact. Yes, you should definitely get HG/SS. It's worth it.

mrunner4home October 27th, 2010 2:15 PM

the basic catch/train/fight gym leaders thing is the same, yeah. but that is no reason not to get hg/ss. they are very different; different pokemon, totally different map (which does in fact change the whole way the game is played), the 16 gyms exclusive to these games (every other game has 8), the basic FEEL of the games...

it's hard to make the games sound ad good and as different as they really are in writing. you'd need to play to see what I mean.

the best way I can put it: you say you don't want to play basically the same game over again, same pokemon, it's tedious, etc. my response to that would be that you would not want to get games from the same set. meaning like platinum, diamond, and pearl are all in the same set; they're basically the same game with minor differences, with platinum being an upgraded version of the other two, but the same region overall. but hg/ss are a totally different set, having a totally different game experience.

I would definitely say go for hg/ss (not both, they're the same like diamond/pearl/platinum are the same). the johto games are a favorite to a big portion of pokemon fans


Spoiler:
MAIN POKEMON GAMES
Spoiler:
Key:
Originals - like diamond and pearl were Originals
Upgrade - released a few years after the Originals, like Platinum is to diamond and pearl
Remakes - released a lot of years later after the Originals (two generations later actually), with everything being redone, upgraded, and a lot added the Remakes are not really like the Upgrade title so much because the remakes have been totally redone, had a lot added to them, and have brought the Originals up to the Remake's generation's standards


Kanto Region
Main Games : blue, green (japanese), red
Upgrade: yellow
Remakes: firered and leafgreen (not so much was added to the originals in these remakes as people would've hoped, but they were okay)

Johto Region
Main Games: gold, silver
Upgrade: crystal
Remakes: heartgold, soulsilver (much more was added to these remakes. they were totally brought up to the 4th generation's standards)

Hoenn Region
Main Games: ruby, sapphire
Upgrade: emerald
Remakes: N/A

Sinnoh Region
Main Games: diamond, pearl
Upgrade: platinum
Remakes: N/A

Isshu Region
Main Games: black, white (only in japan until spring)
Upgrade: N/A
Remakes: N/A (but it's likely ruby and sapphire will be remade)

*this is only a list of the main games' regions. there are more regions in the spinoff games like pokemon mystery dungeon and ranger, etc but this is the main games


Spoiler:
Generation 1
green, red, blue, yellow

Generation 2
gold, silver, crystal

Generation 3
ruby, sapphire, emerald, gen 1 remakes firered and leafgreen

Generation 4
diamond, pearl, platinum, gen 2 remakes heartgold and soulsilver

Generation 5
black, white



...each set (by set I mean region here) is totally different from the other games. many changes. still the basic catch, train, and battle, yeah, but just like resident evil and call of duty are shooting games. that's about how much they're alike, roughly. don't quote me on that ;)



click the spoiler above for a list of the games to maybe understand a little better

:)


You know what strike all that. look at the results of this poll and you'll see why you need to get hg/ss :)
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=231770
(if you read the first post, don't only read that one)

SandslashFTW October 27th, 2010 3:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rucario (Post 6251263)
HG and SS feature the two best regions. No, that's not an opinion, that's a fact. Yes, you should definitely get HG/SS. It's worth it.

Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself. If you thought Sinnoh Pokemon were good, you'll be blown away by Johto Pokemon.

PlatinumDude October 27th, 2010 3:43 PM

If I were you, I'd go buy HG/SS. The in-game additions, such as walking Pokemon and Gen IV integration, are what make it so popular. Also, the Pokemon there can learn new moves by breeding (such as Power Whip Bulbasaur and Aqua Jet Totodile).


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