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joacen October 30th, 2010 5:59 AM

Game Informer's "Sacred Cow BBQ" insults Pokemon
 
I was looking through the Nov. 2010 issue of Game Informer, and I came across a section called "Sacred Cow Barbecue" (I have only recently subscribed to Game Informer). This section basically bashes popular video game franchises, choosing ones that the GI staff thinks are "headed for the garbage dump of history."

And in this section was Pokemon! The GI writers claim that "Nintendo has been releasing the same game over and over again for well over a decade." In the most basic sense, this is true. But, the article continues to say "it's no wonder that the traditional, turn-based RPG is dying a slow death, given how millions of children now grow up thinking that 'RPG' means an 'incredibly boring slog interspersed with painfully simple battles between mutant stuffed animals........' it's basically a dumbed down version of Rock, Paper, Scissors, but with worse graphics."

I find this completely outrageous. I kind of agree with GI when they say that Pokemon has been the same game for the past 10 years. Basically, that's true, but not only with Pokemon, also Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Call of Duty, and many other popular game franchises. Also, Pokemon has always been adding new and exciting features to its games. If it was the same old game every time, no one would buy it anymore.

Among the other games the GI writers think are destined for doom: World of Warcraft, Resident Evil 4, and God of War.

Sydian October 30th, 2010 6:11 AM

Hi, GI. I'm Nintendo. I making a lot of money from this franchise that's "heading into the garbage dump of history." What are you doing? You're a bunch of 40 year old twits sitting on your greasy couches at home typing up bad reviews to make your living when you secretly have a DS and a copy of HeartGold under your fat ass. So boys (cause I imagine none of you can get girls), have a nice day playing your copy of Halo, which totally isn't the same game over and over again.

Sage Harpuia October 30th, 2010 8:35 AM

Maybe they were using that thing...how is called?...ah, irony.
I haven't read the article but I think that their aim was to say to gamefreak to renovate a bit their franchaise that has a lot of "old things".
I don't totally agree on the story, because in B/W I see a lot of improvement:
Spoiler:
the "pokemon league" and N story

however I would love to see in the next gen a new battle system that really changes the rules (something like FF XII vs FF VII-X), instead of renovating only the pokedex. And also sub-quest. Or new way of training pokemon. (and a lot more)
And BTW, I wonder what they have said of sonic...

Åzurε October 30th, 2010 8:56 AM



It had to be posted. If Pokemon is a sinking ship, why the heck are they still producing toys, or developing spin-offs and sequels? What of Bulbapedia and Serebii? They're big sites, and they're still up and running. So long as it continues to be profitable, it will go on, basically.

Heh, Google says people are raging over the inclusion of God of War as well. Seems they didn't choose too well.
Nearest I can tell, they're just finding bad things to say about whatever game they pull out of a hat, nothing personal.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ October 30th, 2010 10:54 AM

It's Game Informer. This sort of crap is to be expected of them. Really, I don't take anything that magazine says seriously.

B/W might not be my cup of tea (yet) but there is no denying that the Pokemon franchise isn't going away anytime soon.

Luck October 30th, 2010 11:15 AM

The only thing that came through my mind when I read that was "Apparently these guys have never played a single Zelda game before".
GameInformer doesn't have the best writers, but this is just awful.

Zaroas October 30th, 2010 11:33 AM

When I saw the article in my issue of GameInformer, a started laughing. Seriously, I did. Those guys can bash Pokemon all they want, it's still running strong. So let's all watch Pokemon grow and gain truckloads of money while these guys are sitting in their mom's basement, giggling over COD and Halo (Both of which are essentially "The same game over and over again")

Wings Don't Cry October 30th, 2010 6:09 PM

So I went to Wikipedia to check these guys out. Apparently they're main audience are people who are aged 18-34. Really at that age in modern society if you have time to buy and read this crap then you're probably one of the people applying for a job to write this crap.

Really I don't mind them trying to say Pokemon is dying and it's bad sine I know some people don't like the same concept in every game. But when you mess with RPG games in general then you've gone too far. RPG games will never die, why do you think people still play and buy the first Final Fantasy every time it gets re-released even though practically nothing has changed not even the graphics or the battle system. Turn based RPG games like Final Fantasy and Pokemon are still just as strong as they were 10 years ago.

Kirbychu October 30th, 2010 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 6257087)
Hi, GI. I'm Nintendo. I making a lot of money from this franchise that's "heading into the garbage dump of history." What are you doing? You're a bunch of 40 year old twits sitting on your greasy couches at home typing up bad reviews to make your living when you secretly have a DS and a copy of HeartGold under your fat ass. So boys (cause I imagine none of you can get girls), have a nice day playing your copy of Halo, which totally isn't the same game over and over again.

Hehe, I was just about to type up something similar to this.

Those 40 year-olds are "mature" gamers, so they only play "mature" games and bash on "immature" ones.

imevil October 30th, 2010 7:15 PM

GI can go suck it for all I care

Strout October 31st, 2010 1:10 PM

I read this article when I got the issue. I was surprised some, but on the other hand, I can see why the author said that.


Kenshin5 October 31st, 2010 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joacen (Post 6257053)
I kind of agree with GI when they say that Pokemon has been the same game for the past 10 years. Also, Pokemon has always been adding new and exciting features to its games. If it was the same old game every time, no one would buy it anymore.

If they would actually do some "research" instead of talking out their asses then they would see the series over the years has evolved so to speak with different features and other aspects in the game like natures, evs, Double Battles, Triple Battles. Creating areas like Battle Frontier that add repeat playability after the general story is complete. Of course Pokemon for the most part has stayed the same for the last 10 years, why would they deviate from a product that is selling just fine. If they are actually implying that the Pokemon Franchise is dying that is laughable considering the Japanese Version of Black and White garnered at least 1.5 Million pre-orders alone.

The Corrupt Plague October 31st, 2010 6:46 PM

Don't you guys understand that this is all a joke? I used to be a subscriber and I saw them pull off this kind of publicity stunt all the time. The way I can tell that Sacred Cow BBQ's are over the top parodies is by looking at the reviews. Months later, the games that they just bashed usually end up getting their newest installments praised in a new review or get an entire Classic GI devoted to them.

Darthbane2007 November 1st, 2010 6:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joacen (Post 6257053)
I was looking through the Nov. 2010 issue of Game Informer, and I came across a section called "Sacred Cow Barbecue" (I have only recently subscribed to Game Informer). This section basically bashes popular video game franchises, choosing ones that the GI staff thinks are "headed for the garbage dump of history."

And in this section was Pokemon! The GI writers claim that "Nintendo has been releasing the same game over and over again for well over a decade." In the most basic sense, this is true. But, the article continues to say "it's no wonder that the traditional, turn-based RPG is dying a slow death, given how millions of children now grow up thinking that 'RPG' means an 'incredibly boring slog interspersed with painfully simple battles between mutant stuffed animals........' it's basically a dumbed down version of Rock, Paper, Scissors, but with worse graphics."

I find this completely outrageous. I kind of agree with GI when they say that Pokemon has been the same game for the past 10 years. Basically, that's true, but not only with Pokemon, also Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Call of Duty, and many other popular game franchises. Also, Pokemon has always been adding new and exciting features to its games. If it was the same old game every time, no one would buy it anymore.

Among the other games the GI writers think are destined for doom: World of Warcraft, Resident Evil 4, and God of War.


And we are supposed to care why?

Some people don't like Pokemon. We should know this by now...

gregory_turner420 November 1st, 2010 11:18 AM

these people are just ignorant dumb nuts who can't make a game so they bash every one elses hard work. almost all games and there sequels are the same thing with new features or different story line so that would kinda put every game ever made into that category

PaxAmericana November 1st, 2010 1:25 PM

Now listen hear GI, yall are a big bunch of freakin fartheads thinkin pokemon is going into the "garbage dump of history".

Case settled, GI needs to get sued and they are fags!

PS: They can sit on it and twirl for all i care


PSS: I agree Sydian!

Luck November 1st, 2010 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reshiram Man (Post 6262506)
Now listen hear GI, yall are a big bunch of freakin fartheads thinkin pokemon is going into the "garbage dump of history".

Case settled, GI needs to get sued and they are fags!

PS: They can sit on it and twirl for all i care


PSS: I agree Sydian!

Hey, calm down now. They did do something wrong when they defamed a popular series in an article that defames popular series, but calling them fartheads is pretty cold-hearted.

Sydian November 1st, 2010 5:42 PM

Yeah Reshiram Man, calling them fags can be taken offensively since that is a derogitory term for homosexual males. Try to you know like...not say that, please. Fartheads is acceptable...I guess, lol.

Roxichu November 1st, 2010 7:39 PM

These authors think they're cool and edgy by bashing popular franchises. But they're really just another band of conformists.

A black sheep is still a sheep.:bandit:

pichuspark November 1st, 2010 8:56 PM

Ah, sarcasm *sighs*

Either way! This is why I don't want to suscribe to GI (jk). But that's kind of dumb. How much do these guys wanna bet that these kids don't even KNOW what genre Pokemon belongs in? But then again, it's money, dear girls/boys. Really, if you get paid like what? 500-1,000 dollars just to thrash a game like Pokemon for the lulz, wouldn't you do it?

Then again, Nintendo gets paid the big bucks. Like Sydian said, these twits can bash Pokemon as well as other games in their stupid little section dedicated to games that are going to the garbage dump, but they'll just get bombarded with hate mail, death threats, unsucription notices, etc.

(And besides, these games will probably get remembered and mayhaps honored :P)

BleuVII November 1st, 2010 9:55 PM

Well, GI has always survived on sensationalism. It kind of puts me in mind of the people over at IGN who often write articles on how to "fix a franchise". Just proves that it's easy to criticize, but not easy to do.

They do have SOME point. I mean, Pokemon could be BIGGER than it is now, if they were just willing to scrap some of the worse ideas and focus on the good ones, but I have a feeling Pokemon will be around a lot longer than printed game magazines.

mervyn797 November 2nd, 2010 2:49 AM

They are making a completely invalid point out there. I don't see how it is all the same thing over and over. It is true that Pokemon has a preset events, eg. You have to battle gym leaders and all, but aren't there new features each time a new game is released? And who thinks that battling isn't fun? I bet those guys have no idea about competitive battling and how interesting Pokemon battles can be. >_> Simply outrageous.

Clark November 2nd, 2010 5:26 AM

Lol @ the people who are actually offended by this.


... Really though, it's not that big of a deal. I've seen Game Informer articles saying all sorts of positive things about Pokemon, too. They just happened to be writing an article bashing popular video games, and Pokemon just happens to be a popular video game that's easy to bash. It's not as if they said POKEMON IS RETARDED NOBODY SHOULD PLAY POKEMON LOLOLOL.

Zaroas November 2nd, 2010 6:03 AM

Looking at my issue again, I think everyone should just calm down now. The article is edged with sarcasm. Just look at God of War. They gave God of War 3 a perfect 10 review in a previous issue, and look at them now. Sarcasm, my friends. Heck, they even gave Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver an 8 in a previous issue. For "the same game over and over again," that's good.

Sydian November 2nd, 2010 10:59 AM

However not everyone is subscribed to them, nor does everyone manage to pick up a copy of GI when they're in the book shop, so we don't all know what GI is like. /that's a bit off topic, but just wanted to get that out there before everyone tears each others heads off

FilbertTheFox November 3rd, 2010 10:37 AM

Bias in my opinion.
GI is just mad that they don't earn anything near nintendo for Pokemon! :D

Ask the guy that wrote that article to name all the different regions then i'll beleive him. Oh wait he probably can't.

The games are not repeating themselves, there is new regions, new pokemon and new features such as Battle Tower etc.

He has no right to bash one of the most popular games on any system.

Sydian November 3rd, 2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

I don't have a subscription either, but I used common sense. GameInformer, being a video game magazine, can't afford to honestly bash such a game which they know has such a wide fanbase, even among their own subscribers. So obviously they must have written a satirical article.
That's how my common sense worked. There are very few instances where a video game magazine, which still is being printed, can pull off such a stunt.
My common sense was "these other people don't like most Nintendo games these days because it's not manly and there aren't guns involved", but hey, I like yours better.

Quote:

He has no right to bash one of the most popular games on any system.
I plead the first.

Apostrophe November 4th, 2010 6:48 AM

I'd hate to play the Devil's advocate, but they really hit the nail on the head with the "same game over and over" thing. I mean, even Black and White, which was supposed to be hailed as a "restart" of the series, was essentially just "same ****, different Pokemon".

Nearsighted king of Ice November 5th, 2010 11:26 PM

They Dissed pokemon but you shouldn't take everything in magazines seriously I mean I read on a magazine once an article saying bigfoot could be real

The 100 Mega Shock November 8th, 2010 6:50 AM

Haters gonna hate on haters.

Aquacorde November 8th, 2010 9:03 AM

Hehe look, an ironic article. I was actually informed of this by my boyfriend who was laughing about it. This thread makes me want to read it to see how good of a satirist the person who composed it is~

ShivaDF November 8th, 2010 9:55 PM

I dunno, this might be a case of "having to say harsh things so people will care/listen".
...Not that that will work. :/

takkunlove7 November 12th, 2010 5:30 AM

I'm sorry but I laughed at this article. It was a complete joke and it was quite a good one. You guys are making a big deal over satire. Now I'm sure Game Informer knows how Jonathan Swift felt when he first published A Modest Proposal.
And I kinda take offense to the whole comment of they're stupid blah blah blah. It's for 18-24 year olds who sit at home playing COD and Halo over and over again considering I'm in that age range and I still enjoy Pokemon AND Halo.
Me and my fiance regularly subscribe to Game Informer and satire is quite common in the magazine but they also publish informative articles such as reviews and new gaming hardware. I frequently enjoy the magazine and this is a big fuss over a little paragraph on 1/3 of the page.

donavannj November 12th, 2010 8:34 AM

Gee, I wonder what a Sacred Cow BBQ is going to be about? Is it going to be about roasting actual cows?! 8D

A Sacred Cow Roast is where something well-lauded is intentionally scrutinized, and flaws are purposely pointed out to remind people that it's not perfect. This is what many journalists do for a living. The flaws they've pointed out about Pokemon are valid flaws, but if you look at the other series in the Roast, you'll notice that those are also well-established series that are just as well-lauded as Pokemon, if not moreso, and their valid flaws get called out on as well, thus making it clearly satire for the sake of satire. READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE BEFORE JUDGING IT BASED ON A SINGLE PARAGRAPH, PEOPLE!

sfalpharyu November 12th, 2010 10:52 AM

Well in a sense pokemon is the same game over and over again with little new features but even so I keep buying every generation. I actually bought a DS so I could play the diamond and pearl. so it is doing something right. It dont matter what these people say we here in pokemon communities such as this know what games we like we dont need other people telling us what games we like.


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