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alisaie September 14th, 2011 1:02 PM

Right now I just want a flippin' Tales of Symphonia remake from them or something, or at least something with a more interesting cast. Tales of Xillia looks pretty nice, but other than Milla and maaaybe Jude none of that cast doesn't really strike me as interesting either. :/ Character wise they seem to have gone a little downhill since Vesperia, but that's my opinion.

Miss Doronjo September 14th, 2011 1:10 PM

Tales of Heros Twin Blade, huh?

Well, I'll be honest: I was toooo big of a fan of Tales of Cross over games, they're still fun! Just not my favourite. Well, I can't wait for this one then; cause it has Yuri and Flynn; whiiich makes me happeh.

You know, they could easily make a Tales of Symphonia remake or I dunno, squeal to it even! Featuring Mithos. i want a vesperia remake mysellf. </3

ソラ September 14th, 2011 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6849394)
lol, the Vita seems to be nothing but ports at the moment. Why Innocence though? If I remember correctly, it didn't sell all too well in Japan in the first place. I really see no chance of it ever coming stateside. I don't think a new character can really save that bland cast either.

I really don't have much to say on the fan-service game because they really never interested me in the first place.

I know it won't be too long before Namco-Bandai reveals an enhanced version of Xillia. :/

except Innocence R isnt a port. Namco said they are re-building everything in this game.

The reason for Enhanced ports its cause of how badly they sold.
Xillia sold half million copies in the first week. Doubt there will be a Enhance port for Xillia. (Anytime soon that is)

I effing love Xillia. I think its a good game. I really do. :3

darklord18 September 14th, 2011 5:39 PM

i going to be the first

Tales of twin sword hero is going to be great. but it need a bit of Judas in it (i a judas fanboy)


and ToI remake oh come on why not ToT which need a remake of the entire game. why something that is sorta better than tempest be remade when Tempest was so bad?

anyway on th topic of character personailty game after Vespiria werent that good.

but Vespiria can't compare to ToS personilty.

thedestinedblade September 14th, 2011 5:46 PM

Either way, you know they'll be making a Tales of Xillia (insert random letter) eventually. ;)

Reason for enhanced ports is to make quick cash. It doesn't require too much effort, and most of the time the payoff is quite good especially if it's a popular game.

Yes, this Innocence R is not just a simple port. They'll be various changes to the battle system and whatnot, but it's kinda hard for me to get excited about it. I would preferred an entirely new game for the Vita.

ソラ September 15th, 2011 1:42 AM

Sorry if this post seems weird, doing this on my iPhone;

Maybe Innocence R will be a test on how it runs for vita for future projects? Many companies do that.

U.Flame September 15th, 2011 11:19 AM

Will Innocence R be released outside of Japan?

ソラ September 15th, 2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6850475)
Will Innocence R be released outside of Japan?

Not even released in Japan, I doubt we will know this early.

Miss Doronjo September 15th, 2011 11:34 AM

Well, as much as I disagree with the "Vesperia can't compare with Symphonia" topic, I guess after words, the games didn't struck me as fancy YET, but I need to play the games first. @[email protected];

U.Flame September 15th, 2011 11:38 AM

Gasp! The founder of the club hasn't played them yet?

alisaie September 15th, 2011 11:47 AM

I think what Shawn means is the games such as Innocence and such. I know Shawn has played Symphonia and Vesperia, as well as Abyss (he did the Jabberwocky quest I asked him to do, lulz).

Anyways, Vesperia got a new version of itself not too long ago with a new character, so I don't see another one coming out soon. I wouldn't mind like..Destiny or Eternia getting reported because it's been a while for them and I have never played the games myself. Of course, I want Symphonia to get remade/whatever, mainly so it'll stop being overshadowed by Abyss just because of a better battle system. I still want to know their reasoning for Innocence. Perhaps they are just testing it, but still...

thedestinedblade September 15th, 2011 12:35 PM

Destiny's been remade twice. Eternia and Destiny 2 got a PSP port, so yeah, that only leaves Symphonia as still being "untouched." Well, there was that PS2 port, but I'm not sure that counts.

ソラ September 15th, 2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6850537)
Destiny's been remade twice. Eternia and Destiny 2 got a PSP port, so yeah, that only leaves Symphonia as still being "untouched." Well, there was that PS2 port, but I'm not sure that counts.

I think it counts, they added two new anime scenes, they touched it.
Tales of Hearts didnt really get touched(I pretty much meant idk if Hearts CG Edition and Anime Edition got released at the same time).

thedestinedblade September 15th, 2011 11:24 PM

I guess. It was solely ported to the PS2 because Symphonia didn't sell well on Gamecube (in Japan, that is)

lol, ever hear of Tales of the Tempest? It was originally a mothership title, but because of the overwhelming negative reviews, it was removed from the mothership series. If any game needs to be remade, it's that one.

~Ryukaa September 16th, 2011 1:02 AM

I've played some of Tales of the Tempest. It's alright. Just feels... really easy. xD;
Anyway, I'm personally hyped about Tales of Innocence R. I don't care what anybody says, I loved the characters and story of the original. Really good stuff, imo.

I'm just wondering why they haven't remade Phantasia with the super awesome looking graphics at their disposal. o3o
I'm usually not too big on judging games based on graphics, but having Phantasia in Vesperia or Xillia's style would be fantastic.

parallelzero September 16th, 2011 3:06 AM

Destiny doesn't need another version. Overkiiiiill. x.x I'd rather Eternia or something get remade, since when I played through the EU version of Eternia for the PSP, it felt really old. I guess Phantasia would be nice, but like with Destiny I find no real appeal in the characters. Definitely my least favorite casts from what I've seen of them in the three Radiant Mythology games (a trilogy I finally finished a month or two ago \o/).

I'm kind of hoping ToI:R makes it to NA. At least now it isn't confined to the poor hardware of the DS. I started a run of the game fanslated on my DS, but maybe I should stop now. XD That said, I'd like it if we had more news on Graces F, or even a confirmation on Xillia being brought over. I don't know why they wouldn't. It's Japanese sales right now are ridiculous.

Miss Doronjo September 16th, 2011 6:01 AM

Mmm, here's a side question if you would like to answer; annnnd this might be a little weird, BUT:

Where would you go picnicing?

Basically, from any Tales game, where would you go picnicing, or at least, where you would like to travel to. (basically its a "favourite location" type of question).

You know what! I'd picnic in Zaude; YOU GET TO EAT INSIDE A WEAPON; sooo freakin' rad! Well, actually, theeee best reason I can come up with is that everything seems so peaceful inside; of course, then again, there's the rising water, you'd just have to get to high ground. :3

alisaie September 16th, 2011 6:19 AM

Ahhh, So Destiny is there with Phantasia with already having it remade a few? I just know that Phantasia has been put on several ports, which is why I didn't recommend it to be remade/whatever. Tales of Symphonia diiiid get a new port, but it was a kind of a downgrade than an upgrade due to the lag and everything.

More news on Graces F or Xillia would be great. I don't have a PS3, but if those two get translated, I just miiiiight get one since that's two games I would like to play for it. I seem to get consoles these days for Tales of Games ( I got the Wii for ToS2 even though it doesn't compare to the original ) so it's a possibility.

I'll answer the question later ( need to stop delaying these. xD) I have to get ready to go to class. =3=;

ソラ September 16th, 2011 7:42 AM

Speaking about Tales of Graces: f. FilthieRich said on his twitter he is awaiting approval from higher ups to share news about ToGf. So there might be news soon? haha.

@the question

Lhant Hill. Seems like a nice place to picnicing (especially with Sophie~Chan). I have tiny obsession with Sophie :3.

Liacri September 18th, 2011 3:41 PM

I'd probably go picnicking in Grand Chokmah. There's a park there, if I remember correctly. It seems like it would be a nice place for a picnic. Lots of waterfalls. Though you might have to beware of rampaging rappigs getting in the food....

(I am pretty new to this club, by the way, so... hi. :3)

U.Flame September 19th, 2011 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=BinaryPeaches;6850504](he did the Jabberwocky quest I asked him to do, lulz).
What's this about a Jabberwocky quest? I always thought that enemy was too amazing to not have a purpose.

Stellar September 21st, 2011 3:43 PM

I'm so glad this club is still alive. ;_; I've been on a bit of a hiatus these past few months and I was sure it'd be gone when I came back. I suppose the upcoming release of Xillia has helped keep the club alive, but whatever the case I'm just glad it's active.

Where would you go picnicking?
Derris Kharlan, because space picnics are highly underrated. I'll have to remember not to put tomato on the sandwiches...

ソラ September 22nd, 2011 6:40 PM

I beat Tales of Xillia (Jude Story) today. For someone who asked me about romance in the game, there is some. :) not telling tho but there is some :3.

Now I have to grind for some Grade, and then start on Milla's story :3.

thedestinedblade September 22nd, 2011 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by コナンくん (Post 6859806)
I beat Tales of Xillia (Jude Story) today. For someone who asked me about romance in the game, there is some. :) not telling tho but there is some :3.

Now I have to grind for some Grade, and then start on Milla's story :3.

Well, I have been seeing quite a bit of Jude x Milla fanart lately. ;)

Karasuma September 22nd, 2011 8:31 PM

I'd like to join please?

I would love if Namco made a third Symphonia game, there's still so much to tell in the world of Sylvarant and Tethealla. I would like to use Lloyd and go on his Exphere adventure and more character development with Genis and Presea, like see them grow older(well for Genis erm..) and being able to visit Derris-Karlan again...we all miss Kratos and his epic sayings.

ソラ September 22nd, 2011 9:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6859868)
Well, I have been seeing quite a bit of Jude x Milla fanart lately. ;)

Ahhh yus.
Jude x Milla.

Imma put this in spoiler it has nothing to do with storyline but I dont recommend reading this since it is gameplay spoilers, and title spoiler, and system spoiler, if you're waiting for a possible localization (I highly doubt it will), then dont read it, but if you dont care since it has nothing to do with story, just system/gameplay/title spoiler than open it up :D
Spoiler:
There are titles in the game and what you do is to be on link mode for 30 mins with a certian character, like say Jude Link to Milla for 30 mins, and you get the title Jude♥Milla, For Jude you need to Link all 5 of them linked for 30 mins excluding himself to get the Jude♥, As for Milla you need to get 4 of them linked for 30 mins each excluding Jude, and Milla, since Milla is in Jude♥'s titles to get Milla♥'s title. and so on, like Alvin is 3 of the characters to link to, Elise is 2 to link to, and Rowen is 1 to link to etc etc.


^ I thought it was funny tho.

I love the ending tho, I DO WISH I CAN POST THE VIDEO D: But I dont want to risk for spoilers. Unless someone wants me to :3 (I'll put it in a spoiler tag tho too)

thedestinedblade September 22nd, 2011 11:00 PM

I'll wait for localization (however low or high the chances may be). :)

Did you enjoy it more than Graces F or Abyss even?

ソラ September 22nd, 2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6860003)
I'll wait for localization (however low or high the chances may be). :)

Did you enjoy it more than Graces F or Abyss even?

Nah, I like Graces F, and Abyss more. But since it is only my 3rd tales games. it is in my top 3 hahha. I have to play more to make a list tho. But I love Abyss ending, and I especially loved Graces Ending. But I thought Xillia is a great game, I love the characters, and the story. :3.

U.Flame September 23rd, 2011 11:08 AM

Blasphamy! No Tales game is better than Abyss! Best characters, amazing story and best damns battle system I've ever seen.

ソラ September 23rd, 2011 7:09 PM

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Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6860583)
Blasphamy! No Tales game is better than Abyss! Best characters, amazing story and best damns battle system I've ever seen.

Tho Graces F, and Xillia has a better battle system then Abyss. :x

~Ryukaa September 24th, 2011 1:18 PM

Well, I guess Abyss is the best Tales game to have an English release! xD;
I wouldn't know, I haven't played it yet.

Symphonia is fantastic, though. Just saying. o3o

U.Flame September 24th, 2011 1:28 PM

I haven't tried those, but of all the Tales battles I've seen, Abyss has the best physics. The FOF, Overlimit, Mystic Artery and staggering physics. The NUMBER ONE reason why Abyss battles can't be beat: Jade. 'Nuff said.

ソラ September 24th, 2011 3:58 PM

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Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6862359)
I haven't tried those, but of all the Tales battles I've seen, Abyss has the best physics. The FOF, Overlimit, Mystic Artery and staggering physics. The NUMBER ONE reason why Abyss battles can't be beat: Jade. 'Nuff said.

Tales of Graces F has a no TP in the game, But you have to raise that number in right on your picture to have it has enough combos, to do artes, and you can do blast calibur early in the game if you want, BC is basically mystic artes.

Tales of Xillia - brought back alot of stuff in tota, except for FOF, they have TP back, they have mystic artes, but a new thing called the Link artes, where you can link a character up with eachother and make a whole new arte, and you can do another thing called Link Hi ougi, where you can do a hi ougi with eachother.

alisaie September 24th, 2011 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by コナンくん (Post 6861193)

Tho Graces F, and Xillia has a better battle system then Abyss. :x

Yeah. I hope you noticed that you're the only one who has even played those games. =3= Going with U_Flame here.

And Ryuryu, that's based on opinion. xD A lot of people like Symphonia the best, and a lot of people like Vesperia the best. Just saying. :3;

The 'link artes' were kiiiiind of in Tales of Symphonia 2, but not really. Just instead of using a high-ougi Emil and whoever is able to do a combined attack together. I guess they were more along the lines of the latter that you mentioned? As for FOF I'm not surprised.

Miss Doronjo September 25th, 2011 8:28 AM

Link Artes do remind me of Unions attacks from ToS 1 and 2. Well, except ToS 2 only has one Link MA. Ain Soph Aur with Marta or something.

I think I already said a lot on why Vesperia's my favorite, lol. <3 I love Abyss's gameplay too, I just didn't like the frame by frame that much.

alisaie September 25th, 2011 8:50 AM

I think that one would be the link mystic arte type of thing. There's those times when you can have two characters use an attack if you have the bar at half-full and decide to release it then. I think then it's monster and person though. I don't quite remember.

But yeah, link artes could be like the unison attacks in ToS. That's true.

My reasons for liking Symphonia kind doesn't have to do with the gameplay, since well... the gameplay is "lacking" compared to the others so to say? Not exactly it's fault since it was made before the other games and that haven't remade it or anything yet...

U.Flame September 26th, 2011 10:46 AM

Symphonic 2 was pretty damn good. But it's biggest flaw was not being able to level up the Symphonic 1 people.

thedestinedblade September 26th, 2011 12:13 PM

I wish that was the game's biggest flaw than I would have found it somewhat more enjoyable. The game just seems like a rushed mess.

Miss Doronjo September 26th, 2011 12:22 PM

It was good, in fact its very good for nostalgia purposes, it just; yeah, it feels like its rushed.

I would only say my biggest complaint is the fact that its sorta...unbalanced. You can honestly wipe out an entire monster's team with Emil, imho; or face a really tough level 50 enemy in like the first 50 minutes in the game.

Honestly, it still does have potential! I wouldn't mind a remake of it.

[and tbh, how many times have I said Emil and Marta needed their own human party members. xD]

Karasuma September 26th, 2011 2:04 PM

When you play the game for the second time its actually easier to beat Lloyd and you get a huge EXP. Lloyd was very easy to control in Symphonia 1 but I found him to be a bit of a pain in Symphonia 2. Perhaps he needed an extra Add Combo. I loved his Accelerate though.

alisaie September 27th, 2011 7:51 AM

Since we're on the topic of Symphoniaaaaa



Ending theme for Tales of Symphonia the Animation: United Worlds. I love it. So much. hnnnnnng. The Opening should actually be released like... reaaaaally soon so I just can't wait to hear it. Ahhhhhh, I can't wait until November omg. <3

U.Flame September 27th, 2011 10:46 AM

The Symphonia anime is decent, but it's too rushed. Abyss had plenty of episodes to cover almost everything!

~Ryukaa September 27th, 2011 4:25 PM

Too rushed? No way. Each episode is more than half an hour long, and done beautifully. The animation itself is brilliant, and it's the most colorful OVA I've seen in my life. Not to mention it has original music, which sounds awesome. The Abyss anime was rushed, imo.
Besides, the Symphonia OVA isn't meant to be exactly like the game.

That's just my opinion, though.

alisaie September 27th, 2011 6:50 PM

You reaaaaally have to be open-minded when it comes to the OVA. For one, it's not a full-fledged anime, like Tales of the Abyss. Of course they have to switch some things around and cut things out. It's basically what Ryuryu said, especially when it comes to the animation. Compared to Abyss' animation, which I found to be a bit lacking, Symphonia's is just gorgeous because of the amount of time spent on it (or rather, because of how long it takes for each episode to come out, so yeah).

The animation has it's good points, but you won't find it if you're just close-minded about it, and fret that it's not like the game and it's 'too rushed'. It's hard to fit everything into ten episodes, after all, and back then they probably didn't even know that they were going to give it this many episodes.

Also, while it may not have been a full-fledged anime, it got more openings and endings than Abyss', and each of them are just as amazing as the nest. I can't wait to see the opening for this upcoming two episodes, and apparently there is going to be a different ending for each of the two next episodes (I think?) so if it is the case I can't wait to hear what the other ending it going to be.

Miss Doronjo September 28th, 2011 5:58 AM

Do you know if they plan to make the OVA for Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk?

alisaie September 28th, 2011 6:37 AM

They haven't said anything, so no idea. Think we might need to wait for United Worlds to end before hearing anything if they are.

U.Flame September 29th, 2011 10:46 AM

I'm not saying the Symphonia OVA isn't beautiful, and I know they cover less because of few episodes. I just prefer Abyss. Also, is it me or were the physics in the Symphonia OVA more exaggerated than Abyss? (High jumping, dust clouds with every attack, etc.)

alisaie September 29th, 2011 7:22 PM

... Dust Clouds? You're going to have to give me example of these dust clouds. ._. I saw no dust clouds in the last episode. At all. I can't tell you about Abyss because I never watched the anime. Watched a few episodes here and there, but it didn't catch my attention like Symphonia. Might be because I have much more love for Symphonia than Abyss but...

Anyways, I'm fine with you preferring abyss, but I'm saying that your reason for liking it more can easily be an opinion and objected upon.

Now, I shall present to you an amazing image that shows some things for the next ToS episode. <3

Here's one at the UFOtable Cafe's site
Then there is this one and this one

And my comments in the spoiler.
Spoiler:
Zelos with Wings! I really hope this doesn't mean that he'll be completely betraying the group. I really hope that it's the 'fake' betrayal, and they take it sort of like the Manga route. According to some people who have viewed the screening, Seles is at least going to mentioned in the next episode, so we'll just have to see! Also according to those that saw the screening, Yuan is going to be using Indignation. Can't wait!

Also...

mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos mithos

ソラ September 29th, 2011 8:18 PM

Well I have watched all of Abyss anime adaption. When I can find the ToS Ova I'll download them and watch them :3.
But I do want to play ToS first before watching the ova.

alisaie September 29th, 2011 8:21 PM

Playing the game (or at least reading the manga) is definitely recommended before watching the OVA. Unlike the Abyss anime, it's just soo much easier to understand if you play the game first. I've learned that people have enjoyed the OVA more if they have played the game and know the story.

U.Flame September 30th, 2011 10:52 AM

[QUOTE=BinaryPeaches;6868906]... Dust Clouds? You're going to have to give me example of these dust clouds.QUOTE]

The fight with Zelos and Regal for example. When Regal hit the ground, there was an exaggerated dust cloud effect. And it left bent and damaged concrete, which is a little much for falling from the not-so-high building.

The fight was still epically epic though. ^_^

alisaie September 30th, 2011 1:53 PM

You said it like there was more than one instant, and that it happened too often. :/ Let's also not forget that Regal is different than your average human...

But, I'd rather not fret with the minor details. The majority of cartoons/animes defy the law of physics these days anyways.

U.Flame September 30th, 2011 2:39 PM

I'm pretty sure it did happen too often. But I can't watch it since my laptop broke so maybe you're right, maybe it's less exaggerated than I thought.

alisaie September 30th, 2011 2:53 PM

I watched the Sylvarant Arc multiple times, as well as the other three episodes (first one I only watched once or so) of the Tethe'alla arc. While I don't remember every minor detail (especially not how many dust clouds there are) the ones I do remember can make sense (eg: the one when Zelos and Regal are fighting for the first time and Zelos is knocked into Altessa's house. Altessa's house is built out of rock and dirt, and thus would cause a dust cloud as such). Let us remember the environments that fought in.

Why are we arguing about dust clouds anyways. They have nothing to do with the plot, and like I said, physic laws are broken all the time in entertainment. :I Who really cares. Hell for all we know maybe that's how their magic works. =u= To be quite honest, I just want the next episode.

U.Flame September 30th, 2011 6:58 PM

Yeah, I can't wait to see how the anime finishes!

Miss Doronjo October 2nd, 2011 6:30 AM

GUESS WHAT I BOUGHT YESTERDAY. :D
I didn't take the actual picture, but I saw it at a shop where they sell various plushes, and this was in it. :3

And yeah, its originally from Tokyo. :3

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ft152jTPWFY/TnIXv7JZvAI/AAAAAAAAAM0/ft7hTi5uZ60/s800/IMG_6865.JPG

~Ryukaa October 2nd, 2011 6:40 AM

Holy lord, I suddenly want a Repede plushie. That looks... so cuddly and wellmade! :DDD

U.Flame October 2nd, 2011 6:26 PM

I want a cheagle plushie! And a Colette plushie, Zelos plushie, Jade plushie, Noishe plushie, and most importantly, ARCHE! I comission a friend for an Arche crochet plushie but I think she's too busy. T_T

~Ryukaa October 2nd, 2011 8:42 PM

Woah.
I just woke up, and I think that Repede plushie crept into my dreams. o3o
Weird. xDDD;;

A Cheagle plushie would be fun to throw around.

alisaie October 3rd, 2011 8:02 AM

omg, that's adorable. xD

I myself would want either a Noishe or a Corrine plushie (omg corrriiiiiine. ;____;) Either of those would be fantastic! I wouldn't mind a Cheagle plushie either. For the time being though I guess I'm good with my several onecoin figurines. xD

I actually have an image of my Tales of Symphonia figurines (and I think myself as Mithos in the image). I'll see about digging it up and showing it you all if you'd like.

ソラ October 3rd, 2011 11:12 AM

So like i decided to buy Symphonia, but the PS2 version.
Mainly I dont own a GC Controller, and I dont have a memory card, and Im more of a Playstation Player than I am with a Nintendo player, I feel more comfortable with a PS1/PS2/PS3 controller to play rpgs.

alisaie October 3rd, 2011 12:53 PM

Just a fair warning that while the PS2 version does have more material, it's prone to far more lagging than the Gamecube version, because of the framerate. I'll have to punch something if you dislike how the game works because of the lag.

I've always wanted to play the PS2 version because >more material, but I've been told that it's not worth the constant lagging. This is why Symphonia needs to be remade.

ソラ October 3rd, 2011 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6873574)
Just a fair warning that while the PS2 version does have more material, it's prone to far more lagging than the Gamecube version, because of the framerate. I'll have to punch something if you dislike how the game works because of the lag.

I've always wanted to play the PS2 version because >more material, but I've been told that it's not worth the constant lagging. This is why Symphonia needs to be remade.

Lagging should be the last of my worries. Now if it wont work. THEN I'll complain. Like i said Im more of a PS2 gamer, than i am a Nintendo gamer, I wouldnt dislike the game for just lagging, specially for an RPG I get catched on with story, and gameplay.

Cherrim October 5th, 2011 9:40 AM

He's played Abyss. That has the same lag rate as Symphonia did, I find, and since he hasn't played the GCN version, he won't know what he's missing. :P

Omg that Repede is adorable. ;_; I had no idea they even made that! They should make a puppy!Repede too.

alisaie October 5th, 2011 10:27 AM

Really? When I heard you talk about the lag before, it sounded like it was worse than Abyss' Erica. xD I'm never listening to you again.

Aaaaanyways, I'm still standing by my 'Tales of Symphonia needs to be remade' or 'Prequel' stuff. (b'')b

A puppy Repede would be adorable, despite the fact that I never played the game in full. o3o

Cherrim October 5th, 2011 10:40 AM

Well it might have been worse simply because it was their first attempt at a PS2 game, but I imagine it was so bad mainly because I remember how instantaneous the load times were in the GCN. :<

Also puppy!Repede is in the prequel movie (First Strike... or whatever) so no need to even finish the game to see him. :>

ソラ October 5th, 2011 12:12 PM

Well I did order the game last night it should be shipped out tonight. I cannot wait~
Yes I did play Abyss. Infact, I beat it ~ and own it, and loves it :D
I'm sure imma love Symphonia from all the rumors I heard from certain people (i.e. Tara; And one other friend) :o I probably would love it :o I still need to finish Xillia I beat Jude's story, I'm on Milla's story right now Just taking my time haha.

Cherrim October 5th, 2011 10:38 PM

How's Xillia? Compared to the games you've played. I honestly haven't heard anything about it since the Famitsu review and I don't trust that magazine's reviews at all. :s

(And you will love Symphonia, though after recent games the battle system is a little painful to ease back into. But the story and characters are great.)

alisaie October 6th, 2011 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 6875857)
Also puppy!Repede is in the prequel movie (First Strike... or whatever) so no need to even finish the game to see him. :>

yeah. I still need to watch First Strike. I've been meaning to (and was going to at a convention since they were showing it there) but I didn't get the chance. xD

Anyways. Yes, you'll love Symphonia. It's just as Erica says, though I've been playing Symphonia lately so the battle system is something I'm perfectly content with (and I actually had to ease my way back into Abyss' fighting style a little bit ago).

Speaking of Symphonia:

(dat screenshot before you click play hnnnnnnnnnng. <3333)

You guys have no idea how much I squealed (and still am) about this... except for Ryuryu who was on MSN when I was doing so. xD

U.Flame October 6th, 2011 9:16 AM

Squeeeee! That's so awesome! I'm guessing more depth on Martel?

ソラ October 6th, 2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 6876932)
How's Xillia? Compared to the games you've played. I honestly haven't heard anything about it since the Famitsu review and I don't trust that magazine's reviews at all. :s

(And you will love Symphonia, though after recent games the battle system is a little painful to ease back into. But the story and characters are great.)

I really really like Xillia, I love the gameplay and battle system, and the story.
Alot of the system in this game is really cool. But still it isnt my favorite Tales game, Its behind Graces and Abyss for me. My Favorite is Graces. But Abyss beat Graces by it's story imo. But Abyss will always be near the top of my top 5 (when i get a top 5 hahaha), Symphonia is gonna be my 4th tales game I own. Gonna still get the 3D version of Abyss haha I want to play Abyss when im like in a car, and be like "Yus, im playing abyss...in the car", or on a plane, or in my room in bed idk.

Also alot of people complained about ToX, that there isnt any Cameo battles. But that doesnt really piss me off, mainly I can careless with Cameo battles. If you want a cameo battle. dress them up in a Tales Outfit and fight them in arena, then there is your cameo battle >.> Also some people complain that it barely has any ingame costume, the costumes are there, just buy them, i know some people can't but it just a side thing to play dress up. I think there is a few more things people didnt like, say like it was too short, or it doesnt feel complete. It has a good amount of side events, titles to earn, trophies to get, it has a lot of content in this game, that it doesnt need a director's cut to make. I personally think its a good enough game to not get a enhance port, or a director cut, I know it isnt going on Xbox one of the Namco team said it via twitter, and Xbox failed hard in Japan. Also in Japan every game they ported to the Ps3 got a better outcome in sells. So basically if they make a updated version they may slap "Director's cut" and put it on PS3 like in Destiny for Ps2.

From the recent games of the battle system, and i played Abyss's battle system, it was easy to get used to, and it didnt bother me, so Symphonia's system I learn quickly and go with the flow and learn then I'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6877411)

yeah. I still need to watch First Strike. I've been meaning to (and was going to at a convention since they were showing it there) but I didn't get the chance. xD

Anyways. Yes, you'll love Symphonia. It's just as Erica says, though I've been playing Symphonia lately so the battle system is something I'm perfectly content with (and I actually had to ease my way back into Abyss' fighting style a little bit ago).

Speaking of Symphonia:

(dat screenshot before you click play hnnnnnnnnnng. <3333)

You guys have no idea how much I squealed (and still am) about this... except for Ryuryu who was on MSN when I was doing so. xD

What I said above to Erica. I'mma drop everything even ToX to play Symphonia tho, so I can beat it, and just take my time with it. I may have to look at youtube vids for the english version to get the story, since this version is in Japanese, But I'll be okay as long as I understand the characters, and know how to use the battle system, I'm sure I'mma fall for this game like I did with the others~.

That Trailer is epic btw :o After I beat ToS, Imma go download the Ova >:3

alisaie October 6th, 2011 3:41 PM

All I'm going to say is don't look at Zelos by his cover. I hate it when people do that. xD

The OVA has (gonna have) three arcs. There's the Sylvarant Arc, Tethe'alla, and then the upcoming United Worlds arc. Sylvarant arc was 'eh'. They definitely bumped up their game with the Tethe'alla arc, and I have the feeling this last arc is going to be simply fa-bu-lous~~~!

U.Flame October 6th, 2011 5:02 PM

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ソラ October 6th, 2011 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6877982)
All I'm going to say is don't look at Zelos by his cover. I hate it when people do that. xD

The OVA has (gonna have) three arcs. There's the Sylvarant Arc, Tethe'alla, and then the upcoming United Worlds arc. Sylvarant arc was 'eh'. They definitely bumped up their game with the Tethe'alla arc, and I have the feeling this last arc is going to be simply fa-bu-lous~~~!

LOL oh I think i know who you are talking about, Nah. Im sure he is bad ass :o.

Does the OVA follow the game or is it like a thing after the game or something?

Cherrim October 6th, 2011 8:15 PM

The OVA sort of summarizes the game. It's pretty much taken directly from the game. But it's pretty, so it's worth watching.

I hadn't heard there's a third part to it though. :O I'm actually not even sure I'm caught up on Tethe'alla. @[email protected]

alisaie October 6th, 2011 8:18 PM

The OVA "follows" the game. It's quite different from the game though, but if you're open-minded about it you can enjoy it just as much as the game itself (and hell... the characters are animated, which is why I really enjoy the OVA, on top of other things such as the music). The manga is closer to the game itself, but it still have some differences for the same reason (lack of space). However, both of them do have some aspects that weren't really delved upon in the game, such as Zelos and Regal's past. The Manga delves more into Zelos, and Regal has his own episode to himself really in the OVA.

Basically, the game obviously tops all, but there are aspects of the Manga and OVA that people can argue is better than the Game. (There are also the drama CDs, but I never listened to them woe is i).

or just go with what Erica said, because that's basically what I said but in much simpler terms. xD

... You haven't Erica? Where have you been. xD The third part is releasing next month, and I have a feeling that these days two episodes are going to be amazing. <3 If you haven't seen about ten second of Mithos, I don't think you're caught up in Tethe'alla yet. :P

Cherrim October 6th, 2011 8:22 PM

I only saw two episodes of Tethe'alla. I'm... definitely behind. xD; I'll have to hurry up and download it when I get back to school on Monday. @[email protected]

Miss Doronjo October 7th, 2011 6:02 AM

Don't worry, I need to catch up a bit too! I think I only have 2 more episodes to go in Tethe'alla; I haven't caught up, since I was busy with Soul Eater.

Well, I'm still pretty bothered by the fact that Abyss for 3DS is delayed until next year without any proper reason. :x

ソラ October 7th, 2011 8:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 6878705)
Don't worry, I need to catch up a bit too! I think I only have 2 more episodes to go in Tethe'alla; I haven't caught up, since I was busy with Soul Eater.

Well, I'm still pretty bothered by the fact that Abyss for 3DS is delayed until next year without any proper reason. :x

It could be that they want to have it on a date where nothing too big is selling so it can get some sells?

Also My ToS is in my town out for delivery. I cannot wait >.<. I love how Play-asia is fast

EDIT: I got Symphonia. I LOVE IT so far haha.
ALSO, Tales of Graces: f English videos are up, I cant hear their voices and the person is explaining the battle system and what not. so here it is the link. Link -->CLICK HERE FOR TOGF FOOTAGE!

darklord18 October 9th, 2011 6:49 PM

ok I got ToP cross and NDx and been playing cross alot and I up to getting the flame sword and I just wondering

were do I get everyone best armor and weapons.

how to I get shadow, and pluto

and how do I unlock the pac man hi ogui and that time travling girl hi ogui?

and were do I find the following for cress Mumbane (i know it in treantwood but were in it?) Aifread's quest to start it.

I want to be able to get the gold helm and blue and red line sheild before getting the enteral sword.

alisaie October 10th, 2011 7:50 AM

I wish I could help you, darklord18, but I've never played the game so I can't. There are always Walkthroughs that could help you if you don't mind turning to them though.

Good to hear that you're enjoying it, Mattie! n__n It makes this fangirl who has ToS controlling half of her life happy.

Also (spoilers for those who wish to not know what might be happening in the next episode of the OVA):
Spoiler:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/UWZelos.jpg

Thoughts? Speculations? There is also a poster that shows Zelos with his fabulous orange wings. ;A;

Miss Doronjo October 10th, 2011 7:55 AM

My...only thought in the spoiler:

Spoiler:
I guess Zelos is going to betray the group?

alisaie October 10th, 2011 8:03 AM

Lalala~

Spoiler:
Remember, Zelos betrays the group either way. The difference is whether he only "betrays" them and come back, or completely betrays them and well... dies. The image kind of points to the latter, in which I hope isn't true. :( Especially not in this episode which will (or a high probability) showing Martel's Death. There's only so much I can handle in one episode. ;;

ソラ October 10th, 2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6883192)
Good to hear that you're enjoying it, Mattie! n__n It makes this fangirl who has ToS controlling half of her life happy.

Hahha Yeah Tara. Its a good game, I dont see any lag so far, it seems like a normal ps2 game when it comes to framerate haha. I love the battle system tho its pretty fun, specially using Lloyd with the two swords :D.

~Ryukaa October 10th, 2011 11:59 AM

/decides to start calling you mattie as well. o3o

Yeah, Symphonia is great. Probably my favourite Tales game.
...Then again, it's the only modern one I've played. xDD;;

darklord18 October 10th, 2011 3:48 PM

ok here my thought on it

Spoiler:


No zelos doesn't die I going to say he get beat but nearly kills everyone but in the end fail and turn on Mitho or whatever this name is and give lloyd the item to make the diamond ring and tell them to go to kartos while he give them time, and he fight while they do so but being weaken from the fight and up against Mithos he get beaten to the of that pic but hold them off enough for them to return with the pact and the enternal sword. since enternal sword is need to merge the two words. and since i don't remember Mithos even seen having it. if it confirm to be one epsiode it might be a very long epsiode but if it what i think it is it will be four episode since there way to much to cut out that is so need,

U.Flame October 10th, 2011 4:19 PM

Spoiler:
Zelos! From that position, it looks like he's dying...NOOOOOOOO!

ソラ October 10th, 2011 6:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ryukaa (Post 6883447)
/decides to start calling you mattie as well. o3o

Yeah, Symphonia is great. Probably my favourite Tales game.
...Then again, it's the only modern one I've played. xDD;;

It indeed is. You can call me Mattie :D. But I didnt get the gamecube version I got the ps2 one in Japanese bahaha.
I like it alot.

alisaie October 10th, 2011 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Ryukaa (Post 6883447)
/decides to start calling you mattie as well. o3o

Yeah, Symphonia is great. Probably my favourite Tales game.
...Then again, it's the only modern one I've played. xDD;;

this is totally not my fault. just saying.

@darklord: the united worlds arc is going to be two episodes. all the screenshots and such that have been released and shown have been for the first episode. We've yet to see anything for the second episode as of yet. So yeah, they're going to be squeezing in quite a bit in this episode, and probably as well as the last episode.

darklord18 October 11th, 2011 4:54 AM

man that a bit tight to sqeez in so much imo.

anyway I can't wait for the enternal sword anime look.

yeah ToS is great it got me into the series but one thing I didn't really like at first was the cursing, at the time I start playing it I didn't really like people cursing.
Spoiler:
though it funny at the sheena/zelos/Kratos/collect event in the final area lloyd said "If that[]fs not good enought for you." didn't anyone else laugh when they saw that typo. note I dr if the f is there but I pretty sure it either there before or after the box or something else.

alisaie October 11th, 2011 9:33 AM

... I can honestly only remember one time in which there was one curse (in which would be when Genis first meets Zelos), unless you count 'damn' as a curse word. There was also when Zelos said 'SOB', but he didn't actually say it, just the letters.

I also don't remember a typo. Can you maybe be a bit more specific in when that happens?

U.Flame October 11th, 2011 10:55 AM

Cursing? Symphonia seemed to have a clean vocabulary to me. Abyss is the one that uses "bastard" quite often. (I actually like that) The most obsene word I've seen in a Tales game is in Symphonia 2 when Zelos called...what's her name...Alice? Anyways, he said "Why you little bi*ch!..." I haven't seen the newest Tales games so it can probably get worse from here. Not that I have a problem with that.

Oh yeah, the fan translation of Phantasia says sh*t here and there, but that's because Japan is less censored.

I just remembered a typo in Abyss too. In a sidequest, someone scanned Luke with something so Luke said "What are doing, pointing weird fon machines at people?" Notice the missing "you".

alisaie October 11th, 2011 11:12 AM

Yeah, I remember that part in Tales of Symphonia 2, but I think that's the worst I've heard from a Tales of Game (and ToS2 is more of a spin-off than a mothership title). If course, I can't say much either since I've only finished Symphonia, Abyss, and Symphonia 2.

For Symphonia though, other than 'What an ass' from Genis (talking about Zelos) there isn't much, though I suppose it depends on what words you considered to be curse words. I don't know how many are in the dialogue of the game, but if you include the words 'Damn' 'Hell' and 'Bastard' as curse words then you have the following (for the main cast derp):
Damn: Three people. Sheena, Kratos, and Zelos say 'Damn' when they die (or in Zelos' case, "Damn... ahaha" and Zelos has 'Damn, I must be a genius!' Four if you want to include Presea and Eternal Damnation
Hell: Kratos and Zelos. Hell Pyre. Of course here I remember clearly one time when Kratos says 'hell', and that's when he kills kvar. :v
Bastard: Lloyd. But only at Zelos, which means only if you take the Kratos route.

Again this is battles and main cast only. I'm too lazy to bother going to a script and counting every 'damn' 'hell' and 'bastard' there are in said script. :P;

</tara has no life but to stare at her voice clips and actually bother to do this>

ソラ October 11th, 2011 11:51 AM

I wouldnt know cursing in Symphonia cause i own the Japanese version.
But I do remember them saying "Sh*t", since i know that word in Japanese.
I say bastard alot so I wouldnt mind, I like abyss when they said bastard.
I havent played Symphonia yesterday So imma play it today, I didnt play it yesterday I was tired all day my back was hurting, and well I had school. But I'll play alot today after I pick up my niece :3. I just added the PS2 theme song of Symphonia on my ipod so :D thats makes me happy to have it.

alisaie October 11th, 2011 11:57 AM

Well, I know for a fact that they don't say it in English, but it sounds like the Tales of Games in general were toned down a bit when it comes to language when localized if that's the case (considering what U_Flame said above).

I have both Japanese GC and PS2 openings on my iPod, but what did you expect. :P As for the English one I don't have it on my iPod, but I am fond of it in it's own way. While as an opening it may not prove to be as great as the japanese versions, it has a really nice remix during the game, in which I think it suits the mood more than the Heroic versions. Not saying that the Heroic versions aren't bad (they're amazing, especially Soshite Boku ni Dekiru's <3), but the English track at the part just... suits the mood more. I don't even know if anyone will know that part of the game I'm talking about.

ソラ October 11th, 2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6884836)
Well, I know for a fact that they don't say it in English, but it sounds like the Tales of Games in general were toned down a bit when it comes to language when localized if that's the case (considering what U_Flame said above).

I have both Japanese GC and PS2 openings on my iPod, but what did you expect. :P As for the English one I don't have it on my iPod, but I am fond of it in it's own way. While as an opening it may not prove to be as great as the japanese versions, it has a really nice remix during the game, in which I think it suits the mood more than the Heroic versions. Not saying that the Heroic versions aren't bad (they're amazing, especially Soshite Boku ni Dekiru's <3), but the English track at the part just... suits the mood more. I don't even know if anyone will know that part of the game I'm talking about.

Hahha I have to listen to the GC version more I only listened to it once. I get used to the songs more and more by listening to it more than once haha. I'm used to the ps2 cause I sit there and watch the opening while I play the game before i load haha. I also heard the Heroic of the PS2 version which I was like WOW! Haha. I love remixes of the openings in Tales games, Like Meaning of Birth in ToTA how its the same melody of the opening "Karma", and I want to protect you ~ending version~ of Mamoritai of Tales of Graces. I love the creativity of the remixes. :).

Yeah, cause other countries doesnt want kids to be too influence by bad language i guess. (of topic has nothing to do with a tales game but another game) In Kingdom Hearts II, there is a scene, where Donald getting spanked by Daisy in the Japanese version, but in the english version they don't show it at all. (on topic), But I guess its okay, I know they will censor some stuff in ToGF, and im ready for that.

alisaie October 11th, 2011 12:19 PM

Tales of the Abyss has several tracks in which are different versions of 'Karma', and to be quite honest, they're all my favorite tracks. Of course, I do enjoy the other tracks for Abyss ('Time to Rise the Cross' is amazing; the flute in the track is just... godly), but I've found myself to be enjoying 'Meaning of Birth', 'Mirrors', 'In between 1 and 0' and so on and so forth.

darklord18 October 11th, 2011 9:44 PM

the scene I talking to is when your group get seperated and Lloyd the only one left (kratos/zelos tell him to look for derris emblem.) could just be my copy but who know.

anyway cursing for me was like damn and stuff like that, just how i was brought up. and ToS was first game i saw use it alot.

also a question which character had the best desgin and strangest desgin.

best desgin has to go to yuri, idk I just like the desgin of him.

strangest is Alice from ToS2, I just think it just strange.

alisaie October 11th, 2011 9:51 PM

That makes sense now. I never considered 'damn' a curse word, nor did I ever really consider 'bastard' or 'hell' curse words either.

Mnn... I'm not too sure who I would give the Best Design to. So many people have amazing designs it would really just be easier for me to split them into categories. Like... one with the most epic beard would go to Van, outfit-that-looks-like-it-would-take-forever-to-put-on (long title is long) would probably go to Kratos in his Judgement outside, and so on and so forth. However, it's almost 2am here, so I'm not going to bother with trying to do something like that right now, ahah.

I looooved Alice's design. I think when it comes to Dawn of the New World the one with the weirdest design was her subordinate (not Decus, the other guy) and Marta's dad. But that's just me.

~Ryukaa October 12th, 2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by darklord18 (Post 6884377)
"If that[]fs not good enough for you."

Actually, I encountered those kind of errors a few times. Not just that time. Probably around 5-7 at most. At first, it made me a little surprised. Thinking that Namco didn't check through the translation properly. But yeeeeah. I got used to it. xD;


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