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alisaie October 12th, 2011 7:31 AM

I must be blind or I blocked them out of my memory because I've never seen typos like that and I've played Symphonia like... a lot. :(

darklord18 October 12th, 2011 2:44 PM

I watch a video of the same part on youtub and I can confirm it not a typo.

it wasnt on the video so i pretty sure it either a error in my country verison

alisaie October 12th, 2011 4:16 PM

Could be. I live in the US, soo...

In other news (that's still Symphonia) have a big picture of the promo picture.

Colette's eyes kind of creep me out, but the rest of it looks really neat! I can't wait for the next episode, but you guys already knew that.
Spoiler:
Genis holding up Raine like that totally indicates the Fandalia Sidequest to mee, eee~~


There's also the premier subbed and A bigger preview of the Opening Song with a Zelos screenshot I haven't seen until now.

ソラ October 12th, 2011 5:42 PM

That picture looks beautiful I'm holding off on all symphonia related stuff i.e anime, manga, etc if they have the manga. cause I want to finish the game! Also, everytime I get home or I check the thread Tara is the last one to post. I thought it was funny :D not like rude or anything just saying haha.

Also, I met Sheena, I fought her, but i saved a bit after that then just stopped playing last night i like to take my time, or I like to eat..a lot haha. I just out of class I may play more tonight. haha

When i get more into the game, I may change my theme to symphonia I just gotta find my favorite character :3

alisaie October 12th, 2011 10:22 PM

You should totally join the collab that Ryuryu (Ryukaa~) and I are planning on having once the next episode releases! You'll probably have a favorite character by then, since November 23rd comes out, so even if you haven't watched the episode I could probably provide you the images~~ Mithos is mine, and Genis will probably be my sister's tho. :P

ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN COULD DO SO AS WELL. I have no idea what the collab will be exactly but it will have something to do with the next episode! So yeah, plenty of time to plan things/for people to decide whether they want to join or not; I'll probably mention this as a later date as well~

And now have an epic AMV:

The lyrics match this amv so flawlessly i don't even. totally look up the lyrics and follow them along as you watch this amv. it's just... so amazing.

/yeah i'm excited if you guys couldn't tell. The Fourth Omake for the Tethe'alla Arc is finally going to be subbed, so yay for more Symphonia before the next Episode!

darklord18 October 14th, 2011 3:13 AM

ok I want to bring up a topic people might hate remember or like remember

Do you hate grade farming? or grade in gerenal and prefer them to do something else in the next tales game? what are your thought on grade system?

me I prefer to they use Gald instead of grade since you earn alot near the end of the game (like what the point of gald if you got the best equiment for the character? or better yet have you earn more grade easier since I hate grinding. it just make you level up while doing so and then the final boss is a joke. like ToV I grind till I was level 200 on my second palythrough on hard to get enough grade and well even the final boss was a joke so i decide to go and find all those dark weapeon and unlock his hidden form which I will never fight it in hard or above since he a pain even at level 200 on normal. coughbigbangcough.

I just dont like grade system were you get -number, like I rather get 0 then lose some of your grade you already earn espically.

what people thought on grade system?

alisaie October 14th, 2011 5:05 AM

I love the Grade System, so much. If would be hard to use Gald, because to be it would just look silly using Gald to transfer Gald, and you won't be transferring as much Gald, y'know. Although, I don't think I've ever actually Grade Farmed. Maybe a little bit in Abyss, but that's basically it. When it comes to Symphonia I have so much Grade that I would get everything I want in the Grade Shop, and then I would still have a lot left over.

But, I don't really get your post. You only use Grade to transfer things over to the new game after you're done with the current play through, and if you're willing to buy things from the Katz and such in some games. Sure your Gald accumulates over time, but so does your Grade the more you play the game, and you unless you do spend it on things like the Katz, then you aren't spending it at all and only losing it when you get negative grade (which to be quite honest because I'm always underleveled I tend to only lose it during boss battles and the occasional normal battle).

Also, I don't know if you can do this in Vesperia, but in Abyss and (I think) Symphonia, you can put on your best weapon, put the game on highest difficulty, then go to the first area of the game and fight the monsters there. You won't get a lot of EXP (if you're really that concerned about it), aaaand you'll get a lot of Grade because 1 hit KO + Difficulty level + quick battle = lots of Grade.

Also, you can always up the difficulty or hinder yourself in some way (like putting your people on weaker levels) if you want the final boss to be less of a joke. There are people who get to the max level (255) before beating the game. Truth me told, I've only gotten my characters up to level 100-101 because I dislike grinding of all sorts, but over time I've been able to accumulate enough Grade for what I need for my next game (and now I don't even have to bother anymore when it comes to Grade).

Miss Doronjo October 14th, 2011 5:37 AM

You can do that in Vesperia as well. You can also keep your costums, your weapon skills, your stats, the information in your monster book, the world map, and unlock Unkown mode, the hardest in difficulty. There's also an option to unlock all the skits in Vesperia with the Grade you recieve, which all you have to do is go to Nam Combinda Isle to watch em' all. You can also with your grade, have an option to get double, or 10x the EXP you'd get, or maybe just 1/2 the EXP you normally get for fighting monsters.

Well, there's also a method on how you can easily get Grade in Vesperia, but, I'm not sure if you guys are interested. xD

alisaie October 14th, 2011 6:03 AM

So... basically the same as with Symphonia and Abyss, give or take a little because of the differences in skills and such in each game. Except for in Symphonia you simply have to be in your second playthrough or more in order to unlock all the skits. I think it might be that way for Abyss as well.

I've never played the game, and I don't know if I ever will at this rate, eh-heeh. However, if you want to tell us, then go ahead!

And while we're on the subject...

What do you usually use your Grade on when making a new game?

I usually transfer my Titles (Costumes), Gald, Collector's Book, Recipes, Figurines, EX Gems (both in Inventory and Equipped), Memory Gems, Monster List, Spell/Tech Usage... and I think that might be it. xD; After that I just pick whatever I feel like having for the EXP difference, and so on and so forth depending on how I want to take the next playthrough. I have enough grade in which I could basically pick everything I want, and some extras and still have well.. a lot left over. Not sure exactly how much.

... Abyss I'm not sure because I haven't played it in a while. I know I've accumulated a bit in that game as well, iirc.

Miss Doronjo October 14th, 2011 6:12 AM

What do you usually use your Grade on when making a new game?

Costumes, Titles, Gald, Recipe Book, Monster Book, World Map, Weapons and Skits (sometimes).

I'm a guy that likes to challenge myself in Unknown mode, so I don't spend it on keeping my EXP and levels. :3

alisaie October 14th, 2011 6:24 AM

You can keep your EXP and Levels in Vesperia? I would probably never use it myself, since part of the fun is to level up all over again. Unless you mean the x2 EXP and such. Then you can just pick 1/2 EXP to challenge yourself even more. :B

But yeah. The enjoyment of learning everything again and leveling up is part of the reason why I never transfer the actual tech either (though in a future playthrough I might just for the hell of it and have some fun with my sister). Of course... I transfer tech usage, but shhhh.

> tara has no life but to post in this club after ever person.

Miss Doronjo October 14th, 2011 6:31 AM

...I'm pretty sure, unless I'm mistaken.

Buy yeah; even sometimes I don't choose to keep the skits, because they're funnier during the story!

alisaie October 14th, 2011 6:33 AM

... Don't you get the skits during the story regardless of whether or not you bring them over? Unless they switched it up in Vesperia. But there are some skits that Itry to never miss during the story, just because they're hilarious and are probably among my favorites. Like the Kendama Skits.

Miss Doronjo October 14th, 2011 6:36 AM

No, if you choose that option in Vesperia, you wouldn't get (most) of the skits for some reason.

Which brings up another topic!

What's your favourite skit of all time? :3

alisaie October 14th, 2011 6:39 AM

Huuuuh. That's weird. Then yeah, I would much rather not transfer them and see the skits all over again if that's the case.

What's your Favorite Skit of all Time?
The Kendama Skits. I reaaaally wished those were voices because oh god they would be so much more hilarious if they were. But regardless, I always giggle whenever I see them.

[And then insert a whole bunch of other skits I really enjoy after the Kendama skits]

Miss Doronjo October 14th, 2011 6:48 AM

Eh, at first I thought it was a glitch, (maybe it is) but, it doesn't matter; I just deselect the skits option and still get them anyway~

Anyway! My favourite skit?



Seriously...no contest for me. xD

alisaie October 14th, 2011 8:17 AM

Ahh yes, that one. It would have to be one of my favorites from ToS 2. Any with Tenebrae are pretty awesome though, since he made Emil and Marta tolerable for me, and just in general he just makes things better every now and then.

I also love the skit with Colette and the Metal Gear Solid reference. Oh Colette~

ソラ October 14th, 2011 6:57 PM

I dont want to insult any fangirls or fanboys lmao.
Ive been neglecting Symphonia for the last few days D:. Cause of School, and my old friend moved back weve been out haha.
But today I sat down been playing it :). I still have got Sheena, or anyone else.
I only got Lloyd, Collete, Kratos, Raine and Genis. I fought Sheena. But atm Im at Thoda Geyser. Im so slow ;-; But I'll beat it when I beat it :)

U.Flame October 16th, 2011 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6888576)
I also love the skit with Colette and the Metal Gear Solid reference. Oh Colette~

I KNEW that was a Metal Gear reference! My favorite skit is the Abyss one with Luke talking about breast sizes. "Anise is about as sexy as Mieu." Then something about Tear: "You can't compete with those melons!" Then Tear gets pissed. ^_^

Also the many Jade skits. "I truly will miss Dist." "As a friend?" "No, as his master. He was a really nice pet."
Another sarcastic moment: "What's wrong Luke? Tummy ache? *gasp* The runs?"

alisaie October 16th, 2011 4:29 PM

HI GUYS I HAVE SCREENSHOTS.

I don't know why but Lloyd is reaaaaally cute with that tank top and bandages
MITHOSGENIS ANGST HNNNNNNNG
Bigger picture of what was on the official site. I love it. Soooooo much!

Can it pleeeeeeease be November 23rd yet. Please? ;A;

Miss Doronjo October 16th, 2011 4:51 PM

Yeeeesssss, I want it to be my birthday already~ :3

Tara, those links are broken for me~ D; [well, I got 404 errors]

alisaie October 16th, 2011 5:02 PM

Weird. They work just fine over on my laptop. But here, for you and for anyone else that it didn't work for.

Lloyd (And Regal)
Mithos and Genis
Mithos and Kratos

darklord18 October 16th, 2011 11:41 PM

ok I been grade farming in NDX and I found that I need a total of 12000 for the best stuff

though with a garde cap of 99.99 per fight, man I in for a long farming.


anyway cant wait for abyss to come out

and my fave skit from the games

ToV the one were they talking about the ring and raven gose "I use to see lady." and rita hit him and yuri ask what he wish the ring dose now and raven gose. "go back in time, shut me up." lol

ToS2 it was any that were emil x marta related and marta cooking one. marta if you want emil I don't thinking killing him wiht your cooking going to help.

ToP NDX even though I don't know japaness I look up on youtub for tranlation and this is rody and dio are talking about hi ogui, you need to use rody hi ogui and then the skit show up and dio asking rody to teach how to do one and she make refernce to other tales games hi ogui like being level 30, having the special skill on, being in over limit. which confuse doi. I was lol.

Miss Doronjo October 18th, 2011 11:57 AM

Oooookay gang:

Which Tales of Character did you had the most fun fighting against?

alisaie October 18th, 2011 12:05 PM

Which Tales of Character did you had the most fun fighting against?
Abyssion, hands down. Oh the countless hours that my friend, my sister, and I wasted trying to beat him because our characters were only in the 60-70s whenever we tried to face him. Some of the best moments of my life, I'd say. Sometimes my sister and I would be bored, and thus we would pick up the game, pick the file with Abyssion, and try to defeat him in all sorts of ways on different difficulties. It's so much fun!

Then it would have to be Yuan and Botta, solely because of the 1/2 EXP on Hard file that my sister and I tackled. See, we're not the greatest at video games so we spent oh about... three hours trying to beat him and Yuan? It wasn't aggravating though! Instead it was hilarious and amaaaazing, and we had a ton of fun doing it! Of course, then we cheated and brought the difficulty level down for the Dragon's Nest because we didn't want to waste more of our life trying to defeat another boss, one we thought was more difficult than Yuan and Botta.

I also have fun beating up Remiel, Kvar, Rodyle, and Mohs, because I hate them. I also like to try defeating Sync with one Guy, but it's a bother when I lose because of a certain cutscene you have to see before you face him (luckily you can actually skip that cutscene, derp). Fighting Mithos with one Presea has been fun as well, though I don't do it as often ever sense he peaked into my favorite antagonist and favorite Tales of Character in general spot. I've grown to be a bit sympathetic and thus I don't try when I face him. I also have a separate save spot for whenever I want to defeat the other God Generals (final battle with them) other than Dist (hurrhurr), but none of them were really used as often as Sync's (even though he's my favorite God General), and I think Arietta's have been used second.

Miss Doronjo October 21st, 2011 7:47 AM

I guess to answer my own question:

Alexei from Tales of Vesperia because you won't believe how cheap he is using all his MA's. He's frustratingly hard, but that what makes him cool to fight against in Hard Mode. xD

And omg Yggdrasil -- I lost to him in Mania mode not once, not twice, not thrice, but...BUT A BUNCH OF TIMES.

Anyway, side question:
Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in the Tales Game?

~Ryukaa October 21st, 2011 1:35 PM

Which Symphonia Character did you had the most fun fighting against?
The Lloyd and Kratos fight was definitely my favourite in the game. I love, love, loooove one on one fights in any game. Especially dramatic fights. So yeah. xD;
That fight was awesome.

Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in Symphonia?
...Sheena. /cowers away
I was getting used to the game, and I never blocked back then! xDD;;
I don't think I used any artes, either.

alisaie October 21st, 2011 6:32 PM

Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in the Tales Game?
Symphonia: Does the Dragon Nest count? That boss always gives me trouble. D; But other than that, I suppose it would have to be the bosses that are in the Book (which i can never bother to remember the name of. don't even try to make me remember; by the next day or hour it'll be 'The Book' again).
Abyss: I'm not too sure tbqh. It's been forever since I played the game. I guess just for the sake of it it's Nebilim. I'll try to think of a storyline character that is always difficult for me later.

ソラ October 22nd, 2011 11:21 AM

Who do you think is the hardest character you ever faced in the Tales Game?
It's in Tales of Graces F, Facing Lambda's Body. :| I cant win at all, I need this title to win, and I dont have it.
In ToTA. My hardest was probably the final boss battle with Van. :|
In ToX I gotta say Gaius.
In ToS..SO FAR Sheena. But I beat her after I lost the first time.

U.Flame October 22nd, 2011 10:32 PM

My hardest fight was Abyssion from Symphonia. I had a fairly easy time against Nebilim since the Abyss battle system allows freerun, FOF, and Mystic Arte awesomeness compaired to Symphonia.

alisaie October 28th, 2011 3:36 PM

Hi guys I'm just going to drop these images that were on #ova_tos' twitter this morning!

The Two Box Arts
Collector's Edition Stuff
Exphere Edition Stuff
Back of DVD Cases
Booklet Stuff
More Booklet Stuff
Soundtrack CD List
All the DVD boxsets up to United Worlds

Then we have these boxsets:
Tales of Phantasia The Animation: Eternal Edition & Tales of Symphonia the Animation: Duology Edition
Back of Tales of Phantasia DVD Case and Boxart Cover to Sylvarant Edition of Symphonia
DVD Case Art to Sylvarant Edition of the Duology Edition
More Phantasia and Symphonia

Yes. I squeed and cried this morning.

~Ryukaa October 31st, 2011 10:50 AM

It's times like these when I wish they localized these DVDs.
I mean-- God! They love absolutely brilliant! xD;
It would be pretty awesome to have Colette sticking out on my shelf. xDDDD;;

Also, a screenshot from one of the two United World episodes! Courtesy of Tara. :D
The upcoming episodes look absolutely mind blowing. I just hope they don't cram too much into the episodes. I mean, I'd like it! But it would also backfire.
...I don't know anymore. ;A;

alisaie November 1st, 2011 12:43 PM

HI GUYS MORE STUFF. no i don't care that you guys aren't replying. i'm posting these anyways.

Everything is from the official site, so if you want to check it out, just look it up.

New image showing the two boxsets
Image for the Duo-DVD Boxset
Collector's Edition Boxset
Exphere Edition Boxset

aaaand, now have these time little screenshots for the next episode.

Miss Doronjo November 1st, 2011 12:49 PM

Those look nice~! :3

I wonder who Genis is holding or...skaing hands with. xD
/actually I could guess~!

alisaie November 1st, 2011 7:15 PM

It's really easy to figure out, seeing the background of the image, and the purple bracelet you see in the corner of the image. xD;

Edit: CD Cover for the Tales of Version of Misono/Me's Honto Uso Single
It's so pretty, omggggg. I want it so bad.

U.Flame November 6th, 2011 5:35 AM

Anyone notice the lesbian in Abyss's Baticul Port? Is there any way to acttually see her? The camera covers her on purpose doesn't it? She looks like a...whatsitcalled...the water people in Legendia.

alisaie November 7th, 2011 2:28 PM

... I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. It doesn't help that I haven't played the game in such a long time, and with the PS2 breaking on me I don't think I'll be playing the game for a while.

So instead have another screenshot of what's going to be in the opening of the next ToS Opening! <333333333333333333

U.Flame November 7th, 2011 5:33 PM

She's to the right of Batical Port, next to the fence thing. The camera always changes when you get near so you can never actually see her. I'm actually a little surprised yet glad that Tales would have a homosexual in one of the games. Then again Jay from Legendia seems suspicious. ;)

alisaie November 7th, 2011 5:50 PM

Again, I'm not going to be able to play the game for a while because PS2 basically broke, but why are you considering her a homosexual if all you can do is see her.

I haven't played much of Legendia, so I can't really say much when it comes to Jay. I like Jay though, from what I've seen of him.

/is just awaiting the next episode of Tales of Symphonia okay

U.Flame November 7th, 2011 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6920788)
Again, I'm not going to be able to play the game for a while because PS2 basically broke, but why are you considering her a homosexual if all you can do is see her.

I haven't played much of Legendia, so I can't really say much when it comes to Jay. I like Jay though, from what I've seen of him.

/is just awaiting the next episode of Tales of Symphonia okay

Actually you've got it backwards. You CAN'T see her. She always obsesses about General Ceceil's beauty and safety like a stalker.

alisaie November 8th, 2011 7:40 AM

Okay, if you can't even see her, then what's the proof? Can you speak to her or anything? That's what I'm getting at actually, I'm assuming that you might be able to speak to her if you say she speaks about Cecille's beauty, but...

Eh, whatever. I can't check for myself, so regardless I can't see for myself to see if she's really there or anything (which is what I like to do to prove Easter Egg type things). Instead I'm going to plop down these screenshots from the upcoming Omake, because it's what I do care about:

Spoiler:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/Roidooo.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/cutepresea/Zerosuuu.jpg
So Zelos getting beat up is part of the Omake, and not part of the actual episode. That makes me feel so much better.

U.Flame November 8th, 2011 6:26 PM

Yes I go by her dialogue. About Symphonia: Good, I'd hate to see Zelos's pretty face ruined. :'(

ソラ November 11th, 2011 10:23 AM

Well I stopped playing Symphonia, cause that little voice in my head says to finish Xillia. Which I did, with like 7000+ Grade :D I feel I accomplished alot in Xillia. :3

Also, this month Europe gets Tales of the Abyss for the first time :D Yay for them!

Imma start to play Symphonia again :3. I also wanted to change my theme back to my favorite Tales Character. Oh SOPHIE~CHAWWWN!!!!!!!<3 (did a little one piece reference there :3)

[EDIT] - I found this at the Tales Facebook Fan Page not my picture haha. Looks like Namco gave us the date finally for Abyss 3D, never really said it on a website, they kind of just gave it to us on the back of a Instruction manual. lol. So 2.14.2012...Valentines day haha wow.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/384829_287988407907567_100000892312173_872350_847753766_n.jpg

alisaie November 21st, 2011 9:50 AM



I'll comment on this Opening for United World when I can comment on it in clean, coherent sentences that doesn't consist of spazzing, 'he's so cute', spazzing, 'omgomgomg', and well... spazzing.

CAN'T WAIT THOUGH. HNNNNNNG.

U.Flame November 23rd, 2011 9:35 PM

So the United World is one final episode?

alisaie November 23rd, 2011 9:40 PM

No. It's two episodes. Yeah, don't ask me why it's called 'The United World Episode' if there's going to be two of 'em. I'm not sure either.

U.Flame November 23rd, 2011 10:11 PM

Awesome. Is there a release date for the episodes? Or are they already out?

alisaie November 24th, 2011 8:44 AM

The first of the two was released November 23rd. I watched it last night and to put it simply: IT WAS GLORIOUS. omg. Just... amazing.

The next and last episode will be sometime in 2012, but they haven't given a release date for it yet.

ソラ November 24th, 2011 11:12 AM

Hm, Can't wait till I beat ToS to watch it all of the OVA, and the other stuff. c:
I've been busy like hell :| I mostly gonna play it today to get farther, I'll work on my paper on Friday or Sunday night. Also, I hear an Xillia Anime is gonna happen, Idk if any news happened after i heard it, thats just what i heard. If any anime, I want there to be a Graces anime the most c:.

U.Flame November 30th, 2011 4:39 PM

ARGH! My frustratingly long post didn't post! Basically I'm getting Tales of Innocence thanks to DS homebrew and an english patch from the same geniuses who translated PS1 Phantasia. :)

~Ryukaa December 6th, 2011 12:34 PM

Argh. Vaaan.
WHY DID I WASTE ALL MY LIFE BOTTLES BEFORE FIGHTING YOU.
I realised how tough life can be without Life Bottles. DDD:

alisaie December 9th, 2011 5:04 AM

Oh god. It's been yeeeears since I faced Van, so I'm not sure how difficult he was for me to beat, ahaha.

Anyways, I'm still in the Symphonia mood, but I have a feeling that I'm going to be getting Vesperia really soon, and if the 360 works, I'll start playing that. Since we only have one controller, I also have a feeling it's going to take me a while to beat, ahaa... /too used to playing with others when it comes to Tales of Games.

~Ryukaa December 9th, 2011 5:29 AM

Oh, I didn't know you had a 360! xD;
I'M WILLING TO PLAY WITH YOU TARA. :DDD
From... a distance.
...Without an xBox. D:

Miss Doronjo December 9th, 2011 5:36 AM

I'd soo play with you in Vesperia caaaause I know Vesperia like the back of my own hand~~ <3

alisaie December 9th, 2011 5:51 AM

Like me with Symphonia! Sadly, I think we only have one 360 Controller, but then of course, you could just bring along your own controller, aha!

But yeah. I already have a feeling that nostalgia with the many memories I have with Symphonia and not being able to play Vesperia with others is going to hinder it from me liking it more than Symphonia. Just call me a little stick in the mud~

U.Flame December 9th, 2011 12:21 PM

Damn Japan! Why isn't the PS3 version of Vesperia released in America? I have the PS3 and not an XBox! It's perfect! The more Tales games that are kept in Japan, the more I think I should give up waiting and just learn Japanese...too bad it's not that easy.

Also, Abyss is almost out for the 3DS! Yay! It's gonna suck starting a new game after playing almost 600 hours on PS2 Abyss. But I think it'll be worth it! are there any major changes like artes, enemies, or anything? Or is the main difference the screen and controls?

ソラ December 9th, 2011 12:55 PM

Total hype zone for us NA Tales fan.
Today, Rich Bantegui, gave out a trailer for Tales of Graces: F
it has voices for some characters, like Asbel, Sophie, Hubert, and some battle voices gotta listen tho, since i have hard of hearing i cant hear it too well. But anyways, it also has a release date at the end of the trailer, which Im happy with, its only a month after Tales of the Abyss date
ToA3D Date: Feb. 14, 2012.
Tales of Graces F: March 13, 2012.

Now i bring to you Graces F trailer :) ENJOY



~Ryukaa December 9th, 2011 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6959644)
Damn Japan! Why isn't the PS3 version of Vesperia released in America? I have the PS3 and not an XBox! It's perfect! The more Tales games that are kept in Japan, the more I think I should give up waiting and just learn Japanese...too bad it's not that easy.

Also, Abyss is almost out for the 3DS! Yay! It's gonna suck starting a new game after playing almost 600 hours on PS2 Abyss. But I think it'll be worth it! are there any major changes like artes, enemies, or anything? Or is the main difference the screen and controls?

God, I hate to be the bringer of bad news. :(
I recently beat it, and it's apparently exactly the same as the PS2 version, but without multiplayer. Honestly, I enjoyed it. But that's probably because it was my first time playing.

AND NEW GRACES TRAILER YES

ソラ December 9th, 2011 5:15 PM

I know right? God March 13, 2012 Finally Namco gave us something we can look forward to instead of "2012 Q1". Judging from the trailer they actually might have vocals in the opening since that is the english version of "Mamoritai ~White Wishes~" BoA did a Japanese version and English version, she has it on her special edition CD and the ToG Singles CD on it, So Hoping i do like the English version of the song as well as I love the Japanese.

Also

Bryce Papenbrook does Asbel Lhant (adult)
Kate Higgins does Asbel Lhant (Child)
Cassandra Morris does Sophie.

Im happy with the voices so far. We did hear a bit of Hubert who might be the voice actor of Neiji (i think I spelt that right) of Naruto. idk I couldnt hear it too well.

At first people thought Asbel was voiced by Scott Menville who does Lloyd from ToS, but alot of people who love Scott, says "No, thats not him at all" and I guess they were right.

But over all. Looks solid in the game release, I can't wait i love the voices. :) especially Sophie's voices <3 in Japanese and English :D

U.Flame December 10th, 2011 6:14 PM

You know what? I've decided. I already have 600 hours of my life poured into PS2 Abyss and Graces is going to be released in America so, I'm going to cancel my 3DS Abyss reservation and pre-order Graces F! I think it's a good idea, I want Abyss portable and 3D but I already have my life's data on PS2 Abyss plus I know the story too well. I haven't played Graces and TRUE remakes are worth it. Plus it's been years since I've played a new Tales game that wasn't Japanese or a spin-off.

Wansen December 11th, 2011 3:27 PM

Heya! Wondering if I may please join.
And I think thats a good idea U_Flame.

Miss Doronjo December 11th, 2011 3:29 PM

Yup, I've added you in~!

Okay, I realized I haven't asked this, but:

What's your least favorite Tales of Character?

Wansen December 11th, 2011 3:34 PM

Hmmmm hard question to answear I suppose...the Mayor of Iselia from Tales of Symphonia and that guy who wore the green capey thing and was old with purple hair I forgot his name. But I don't like him either. From Abyss I don't like Synch so far, he's just bland to me(but I havn't gotten very far in the game so i don't know a lot but still...) but I like his design.

U.Flame December 12th, 2011 12:33 PM

i love Sync! My least favorite is...I don't know. Anise and Mimi Baker really get on my nerves sometimes but I don't hate them. Who do you hate Miss Doronjo?

Oh I know! Largo. I feel bad that the love of his life commited suicide but if he has no problem trying to kill his own daughter, something is seriously wrong with him.

alisaie December 12th, 2011 12:41 PM

Sync! Sync's my favorite god general, soyeah. <3 The ugly guy with the green clothing and purple hair is Rodyle. I hate him very much so. </3

Who's your least favorite Tales of Character?
Tales of Symphonia:
Remiel - I hate this guy. SO much. sooo much. It just annoys the hell out of me, and I've had wonderful times going 'TO KILL REMIEL' whenever Colette says 'Looks like it's time' with my friend and my sister. Such wonderful times!

Kvar - oh hey look! this bastard! yeah i hate him as well. i always, always have Kratos with me when going to beat him. no exceptions. at all.

Rodyle - And the green clothing purple haired guy that Wansen mentioned! I hate his guts as well!

Tales of the Abyss
Moooooooohs - I. hate. this. guy. so. much. That is all!

And now you guys wonder why I love Symphonia when I hate several enemies. Well, that's just the case! I enjoy having enemies that I loathe, because they're so much fun to kill. Abyss' enemies on the other hand... i love most of them and thus i'm just going 'AUGH' when it's time to face them, and that's no fun!

Also, yay Graces F. I would be more excited if I had the console to play it on. But alas I don't and I'm not expecting on getting one for a long time yet. Maybe I can buy it and play it on my cousin's PS3, but idk. I'm waiting for something that I absolutely cannot live without before getting a new console.

Miss Doronjo December 12th, 2011 12:46 PM

Who do I hate?

Well, I also hate Mohs.
Like really. I think everyone hates this guy. After what he did in Abyss, its impossible not to hate him. At least imo.

Well in other games, like Vesperia, I hated Alexei 'cause he's a bastard. :( Also he's really, really cheap to fight. Dx Like really. Every 20 seconds, I guarantee you he'll activate his OVL and follow up with a MA.

Symphonia? Well, Marta..kinda, but, after a while, even she's tolerable. :B
I never really hated anyone from Symphonia. xD

alisaie December 12th, 2011 12:53 PM

ohyeahsymphonia2forgotaboutthat.

I'm not too fond of Marta either. She... becomes tolerable after a while, but eh. I much prefer Emil, and even more so Ratatosk!Emil. Even then though, the only two new characters from ToS2 that I really liked and enjoyed were Alice and Decus. They were lovely, even if Decus was a douche and disguised as Lloyd to attacked Palmacosta... it's not like Lloyd was really in character that game anyways.

ソラ December 12th, 2011 1:06 PM

My least favorite character Hmmmm.

Tales of Graces F: Emurade (I think thats how you spell her name) (I dont want to spoiler her at all so Im just saying I hate her thats all).

Tales of The Abyss: Mohs I do hate him, he is annoying :|

Tales of Xillia: I dont hate anyone that i can remember.

Tales of Symphonia: I havent got far enough to hate anyone yet.

Also, Yeah ToGF Im still hyped about it, I cant stop thinking of who the voices >.<. Just hope my Ps3 doesnt break between now and then, cause Imma play the crap out of it when i get the English release :x

Wansen December 12th, 2011 2:11 PM

Wow, I need to hurry up and get through Tales of the Abyss. Since it seems like Synch will become a better character? maybe. I just have a feeling that, (putting it in spoilers just because...)
Spoiler:
he might be Fon Master Ion

BUT that just might be me. e-e I hope I'm wrong because I've guessed who he is. I'll probably look either really dumb or smart now. Yay. Now if I'm right I can be all YEAAAAAH I GUESSED RIGHT.


Why did you have to remind me of Remiel BinaryPeaches WHY! UGH I forgot about him but UGH. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I hate him too. I hate him.

~Ryukaa December 12th, 2011 4:35 PM

Ahaha, Remiel. He was a douche. A huge one. I mean, poor Colette. Geez. D:
Definitely my most hated character in Symphonia.

In Abyss? Hmm. The only one I hated was Mohs. I mean, frick.
Spoiler:
The way he treated Ion and the replicas. Ugh, he pissed me off. <_>;

That's actually a spoiler, for those wondering. xD;

I can't wait for Graces f. I never thought I'd get a PS3 until at least 2013, but I suddenly have one. So... yeah, okay. xDDD;;
Graces f looks marvelous, though. I'm looking forward to it completely.

darklord18 December 13th, 2011 9:19 PM

Remiel and that rod wielder guy who lloyd and kratos kill together, do i need to say why, that guy kill lloyd mother and kratos wife. (if I remember right even kratos say he kill her and not desien or whatever they call, if you heard that you can not like this guy.) Remiel i just pain hate at the moment i first saw him. i thought he was cool till he said he was her father and I was like. "ok this guy is not telling the full story." but unlike kratos who I thought was just a random sell sword I knew this guy wiould one day betray us.

Zelos. out of all ToS cast I HATE zelos. and no it not cause he betray you it cause of his girl firts and worst is why he dose it.


and no I don't hate mithos or emil since I can understand their view points.

ToP, I hate arch. pretty much the same reason as zelos she just bad personallity.

ToV you can cause who, it Raven, same reason as zelos.


and I want to ask.

What your least like villian?

i least like one? umm hate to be ToS2 decus. he not as bad as zelos is with personaity and i do like his boss fight i just not a fan of his peronaity.




Wansen December 13th, 2011 10:01 PM

TALES OF INNOCENCE.
Just wow. Privy Council. Just...so cliche. EVIL COUNCIL IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING WANTS TO BECOME GOD/ALLPOWERFULL etc. okay...and Oswald was a weak villian and was just like the Privy Council in goals. Though he was sorta alright because he did this one thing which was cool.
Spoiler:
He got Hasta to kill the Privy Council. HAH. I thought that was awesome. I hated them.

YUP.

alisaie December 14th, 2011 6:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklord18 (Post 6965188)
Zelos. out of all ToS cast I HATE zelos. and no it not cause he betray you it cause of his girl firts and worst is why he dose it.

auuuuugh. i hate it... hate it when people hate zelos because he's a 'pervert' and he flirts with girls. because most of the time that's all they know about Zelos, and that's all they see. It sounds like you might know of Zelos' history, and if you do I can sort of respect your opinion. But in my opinion, Zelos' reasoning for what he does and why he does it is totally acceptable. Zelos is a much more deeper character than what you see, and I absolutely hate it when people dislike him because 'oh he's a pervert' since that's mostly just a facade.

</rant>

~Ryukaa December 14th, 2011 9:37 AM

Honestly, I think him being a pervert added to his character in a positive way. xD;
As Tara said, he's actualy quite a deep character under the surface. After beating Tales of Symphonia, I loved all of the party members; Zelos included.
His flirts aren't really serious. Well, not completely. xDD;;
That's how I saw them, anyway. xD;

Aaaand, Tales of Innocence. I really need to get around to beating that. I really want to, but the dungeons are so tedious, it's not even funny. <_>;

Miss Doronjo December 14th, 2011 10:38 AM

Zelos is an awful lot like Raven from Vesperia~
In fact, they also played similar roles (in the spoiler):

Spoiler:
Ladies man, Betrayed the group, Came back to help, has a deeper side to them, etc.

U.Flame December 14th, 2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6965535)

auuuuugh. i hate it... hate it when people hate zelos because he's a 'pervert' and he flirts with girls. because most of the time that's all they know about Zelos, and that's all they see. It sounds like you might know of Zelos' history, and if you do I can sort of respect your opinion. But in my opinion, Zelos' reasoning for what he does and why he does it is totally acceptable. Zelos is a much more deeper character than what you see, and I absolutely hate it when people dislike him because 'oh he's a pervert' since that's mostly just a facade.

</rant>

Yaaay Zelos love! I love his inner and outer personality! He's one of the only people who never doubted Lloyd in Syphonia 2, and his flirtiness always results in hilarity. Also Viva Tales of made the right decision making him and Jade the hosts. Best duo EVER!

And what about Arche? No defense for her? I love her too! She gave up her body for Rhea, encourages Chester by teasing him, and her personality is just so fun! Plus she's cute. :3

By the way, is Innocence fun? I'm still waiting for my R4 (DS homebrew) and Innocence with an english patch to arrive in the mail.

ソラ December 14th, 2011 3:30 PM

Tales of Graces F got a NA Boxart cover.

http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ToGF-US-Box-Art-Full-600x701.jpg

I personally like it, since it is the Original Japanese art for the PS3 ToGf, also I hope it is reversible like the Japanese version is :O

U.Flame December 17th, 2011 10:24 PM

Anyone with a hacked PSP, I highly recommend the wallpaper changer plug in. Now every time I start my PSP, I see another one of my favorite Tales pictures as my wallpaper! :)

I've been playing Radiant Mythology 2 again, it never ends! I want to play Radiant Mythology 3 (even though Regal is excluded AGAIN) but I can't get the damn thing to work. Even if I did I'd still need a menu translation and I don' know if that even exists yet. Is it as much as an improvement as 2 was?

darklord18 December 21st, 2011 4:51 AM

RM 3 dones't really need a tranlation patch i haven't finish the game (i got ToP X halfway through playing RM3.)

but I also playing TotA 3ds and have to say this is sorta better than grace f cause it on a handheld and isn't either in japan only or badly translated. I respect people who like grace f but to me abyss is more wroth the money for those who couldn't get the ps2 version.

a topic

what are the most tragic moments in tales games

ソラ December 21st, 2011 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklord18 (Post 6975374)
RM 3 dones't really need a tranlation patch i haven't finish the game (i got ToP X halfway through playing RM3.)

but I also playing TotA 3ds and have to say this is sorta better than grace f cause it on a handheld and isn't either in japan only or badly translated. I respect people who like grace f but to me abyss is more wroth the money for those who couldn't get the ps2 version.

a topic

what are the most tragic moments in tales games

No offense to your opinion. and I agree to it partly.
Those who havent play TotA, those who never picked up the PS2 version in America, pick the 3D up first mainly due cause its great title.
But if you have picked it up, you can pick it up first hence it is releasing first before ToGf. But Dont pass up ToGf its an incredible game, Its my favorite of the series I love Abyss I picked up the ps2 version and will be picking up the 3D version too, but Graces is on my top list, tho imma get Abyss 3D first since it releases before it. Plus, Graces and Abyss release is a month apart in america. and in Eu get it in the summer for ToGf :O

But this is no offense to Abyss players at all, I like Graces F more, but Abyss is right next to it in my list it really is :D

Wansen December 21st, 2011 9:08 PM

Tragic moments in Tales games?
Obviously character deaths and I don't feel like going into details.
ToI great offender of this. I will just list names.
Spoiler:
Chitose, Gardiel(?) Ricardo's Brother ACTUALLY HIS LIFE IS A TRADEGY (not Ricardo's his brother, Asura and Inanna!Asura

YUP lots of people DIIIIIE and I'm sad though Tales of Innocence pissed me off that I really didn't care a lot...though I always cared about Ricardo -v-;

Cherrim December 21st, 2011 11:04 PM

Wow, I'm very surprised with that ToGf boxart. Usually they go with the cel-shaded anime-style art over watercolour. o_O

Honestly, none of the Tales games I've played have been that sad. The end of Abyss breaks my heart a little, but only because I got so attached to the characters. But I haven't played that many games, either, so that might be part of it.

Question about RM3: does it make you stop and do quests with people you haven't levelled as often as RM2 does? I'm playing that now and I'll do maybe 3-4 quests and then get stuck doing a quest that replaces my party and they're always level ~6 who want to go kill the things that my main party (~40) normally takes out. >:( It's so frustrating because I really have no desire to use those people and even when it's only a pair of them, they refuse to let me bring one of my other party members too and auggggh. It's really ruining my desire to finish the game and will definitely affect my resolve to play the next one. D:

darklord18 December 22nd, 2011 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by コナンくん (Post 6976500)

No offense to your opinion. and I agree to it partly.
Those who havent play TotA, those who never picked up the PS2 version in America, pick the 3D up first mainly due cause its great title.
But if you have picked it up, you can pick it up first hence it is releasing first before ToGf. But Dont pass up ToGf its an incredible game, Its my favorite of the series I love Abyss I picked up the ps2 version and will be picking up the 3D version too, but Graces is on my top list, tho imma get Abyss 3D first since it releases before it. Plus, Graces and Abyss release is a month apart in america. and in Eu get it in the summer for ToGf :O

But this is no offense to Abyss players at all, I like Graces F more, but Abyss is right next to it in my list it really is :D

No offense taken but for me Grace F is trying to be to more flashy with hi ogui, something my eyes won't take. (Star wars force unleash 2 is the same) but I get it if it come out in australia (I import TotA since no shop sell it even though it pass the release date) but even if you play Abyss the 3ds version fix most of the bugs and problem like the hi ogui spell lock bug I think I have yet to try but I been pass area that had bugs and problem and they haven't glitch on me.

like you said Grace f is a momth later but if you can get abyss/able to play 3ds abyss it well worth the time to spend a few playthrough on plus it on a handheld so it great for those time your going out.

Downside it not multplayer.

though um can someone tell me what costume are in Xilla (including DLC.)

U.Flame December 22nd, 2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklord18 (Post 6975374)
RM 3 dones't really need a tranlation patch i haven't finish the game (i got ToP X halfway through playing RM3.)

but I also playing TotA 3ds and have to say this is sorta better than grace f cause it on a handheld and isn't either in japan only or badly translated. I respect people who like grace f but to me abyss is more wroth the money for those who couldn't get the ps2 version.

a topic

what are the most tragic moments in tales games

I'm not saying Abyss isn't good, in fact, in my opinion it's the best damn Tales game ever made! I'm just saying the 3DS version isn't worth the money if you already own the PS2 version. So I'm getting Graces!

Tragic Tales moment? Arietta's entire life. We killed everything she ever loved and let her die miserable. I know it has to happen but sometimes I think the party are bastards for doing that.

I'm having a problem in Radiant Mythology 2. I've done 92% of the missions. I've done every available mission Chat provides and I've spoken to everyone and I think I've done everyone's missions. So what's the 8% I'm missing? No one has anything else for me.

Cherrim December 22nd, 2011 1:32 PM

I found Arietta too annoying to be tragic, to be honest. Though I do think the nicest thing the party could have done for her (and a lot of people) would have been to let Jade kill her when he first had the chance. <_<

thedestinedblade December 22nd, 2011 2:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklord18 (Post 6975374)
what are the most tragic moments in tales games

I'd say Leon's whole story through out ToD/ToD2. Kinda feel bad that Stahn was killed off too.

A particular moment doesn't come to mind though. Grune disappearing in Legendia maybe? lol

darklord18 December 23rd, 2011 4:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 6977697)
I found Arietta too annoying to be tragic, to be honest. Though I do think the nicest thing the party could have done for her (and a lot of people) would have been to let Jade kill her when he first had the chance. <_<

frankly I know 70% of abyss story way before getting abyss on 3ds and i starting to find myself strange

I don't luke (same as I don't hate emil.)
I love fighting all the god general (not including dist.)
I find Dist a complete idiot and can't laugh at him unless it Jade being Jade on him.
I find all god general past tragic in some way.

My tragic moments well i jsut list them in types since I be writing a whole 2 pages.

Spoiler:
3 character tragic past.
tales game do this just right, there no overkill nor not explain, and there always a few character who past just make me cry, like Mithos, when i buy a new tales game i never expect to see a character that i just feel like crying for.

2 fighting against NPC.

yeah this one is mainly ToS were there two fights were your force to kill two NPC. if you can guss who then i don't really need to say why just cause I feel the pain the group and lloyd feel.

1 Team mates death.

yeah you been grinding your favorite character, getting alot of skill best weapon and out of no were you have to fight him and kill them, Only to find that they had a reason to or were force into it, even though I hate zelos I amit I cry for his death since it was forshadow and I didn't expect him to really die, and even if you see your most hated character die, you just got to be sad when you find out they did it cause of something like marina for Leon or Selo for zelos (sorry for spelling) and in some case I feel sorry for them. Like when you find out that the person Leon die for never like him and was only following order, ouch.

what i trying to say is even my hate character I just feel sorry for when I find out they had a good reason to betray you.

U.Flame December 27th, 2011 5:20 PM

My Wii is revived and I'm playing Symphonia 2 again! The story is decent but I'm in love with the battle system! It's so flexible, huge, and just plain enhanced from Abyss, it's beautiful! Plus the additional four shortcuts make for an awesome moveset. I just really wish 1st player could play as the Symphonian characters, and that they would level up...But I'm happy with stuffing my party with monsters!

Anyone want to share their proud monsters? My favorites are Orion, Jormungandr, and of course, Kitty Kat.

darklord18 December 27th, 2011 6:16 PM

my are my two Two sword dancers, and kitty cat

ソラ December 27th, 2011 9:53 PM

I got my N3DS. Now I have to wait atleast a month and some odd days till Abyss 3D comes out.
Imma re-play Abyss on the ps2 soon, I have a file already for it, just need to play it.

But yeah Abyss is my 2nd favorite.
I love all them, except for Dist and Mohs. Dist annoys me so much.
But I do love it when Jade is Jade on him.

U.Flame December 29th, 2011 7:43 PM

I feel kind of sorry for Dist. Poor guy is such a loner. But he is a selfish bastard. I still wonder what horrible 3-second torture did Jade do to him that got an immediate confession and fear?

darklord18 December 30th, 2011 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by コナンくん (Post 6985215)
I got my N3DS. Now I have to wait atleast a month and some odd days till Abyss 3D comes out.
Imma re-play Abyss on the ps2 soon, I have a file already for it, just need to play it.

But yeah Abyss is my 2nd favorite.
I love all them, except for Dist and Mohs. Dist annoys me so much.
But I do love it when Jade is Jade on him.

ok I going to ask how do you level up a steal FCS since I going to try to steal the C Core from neiblien (spelling wrong) boss when i can.

also were the best garb, EXP farming spots after killing Van the first time.

U.Flame December 30th, 2011 11:06 AM

I mapped out a floor in Gladsheim and it looks EXACTLY like a swastika! Coincidense or hidden massage?

Wansen December 31st, 2011 1:13 PM

Hidden messeage/reference depending on what type of place it is or a Coincidence if the people/people in power that are there arn't like nazi's at all or don't have anything nazi/faschist about them.

U.Flame January 1st, 2012 3:13 PM

It's a little confusing. Gladsheim's rooms are supposed to be randomized, but when I mapped one out, the swastika design was really clear. Gladsheim does have some other weird stuff going on. (such as Alpha, Omega, and other symbols on the giant enemies) So I wouldn't be too surprised if this room is really supposed to look like a swastika. I just don't know if it's the Nazi swastika or the good fortune swastika, I know there's a difference. I'll post a picture of my map when I find it.

Wansen January 1st, 2012 4:54 PM

Yeah the one on the angle is a swatika and the one thats a cube is the good one. XD;
But that's pretty funky. What game is it from?

alisaie January 3rd, 2012 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6988131)
I feel kind of sorry for Dist. Poor guy is such a loner. But he is a selfish bastard. I still wonder what horrible 3-second torture did Jade do to him that got an immediate confession and fear?

I can't really feel sorry for Dist. In fact I just laugh at him and such. Doesn't help that he's a tenacious cockroach and [spoiler under this, though i think most if not all here have played abyss]. I feel more sorry for Jade for having to put up with him, haha. Not saying that I dislike Dist or anything though, before any of ya'll get that idea.

Speaking of Abyss though, Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Legendia were both of Famitsu's 'Top 20 Tear-Jerkers'. I think that what the list was. I'm too lazy to find the source, but you can check it out yourself if you look it up I'm sure.

darklord18 January 4th, 2012 3:57 AM

ok I got a glitch in Tales of the abyss 3ds

I got all six weapon to fight the secret boss, i know there no scene to trigger the event battle but i been to the area but the thing is it doesn't trigger i press a on the graph and nothing.

Is there a scene that trigger the event?

Kura January 4th, 2012 5:42 PM

Totally getting Tales of the Abyss for 3DS..

@[email protected] Also.. totally cosplaying either Anise or Tear.. but I don't know which one. I'm thinking Anise because I look shorter (I'm 5' tall) and younger, instead of womanly.. even though I am 22 ._.

alisaie January 4th, 2012 5:47 PM

I can't really help you darklord, since it's been forever since I played Abyss, and thus don't remember what exactly you need to do for Nebilim.

Pics if you cosplay, Kura! I would totally love to see you in an Anise cosplay (Or a Tear one if you choose Tear instead, but I like Anise more than Tear, soooo...~)! My first cosplay was originally going to be Sync from Abyss, but instead I went for Mithos from Symphonia. Never regretted my decision. ♥ I love my Mithos cosplay soooo much. The boots, the clothing, and even the wig now that the bangs are styled the way they're supposed to be finally. Hoping they'll continue to stay styled the way I want them until the next Convention.


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