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Ho-Oh November 5th, 2010 6:17 PM

If the staff member of a section with only them as a mod goes on DLOA, people won't be sure who to contact. As a whole, at least two or so of us have a general idea of how certain sections are run.

Captain Hobo. November 5th, 2010 7:11 PM

I like the announcement thing. Because I would like to know what happened.

Ooka November 5th, 2010 7:36 PM

Glad this idea finally has the possibility of seeing realization. One thing though, ex-staff always get pestered with the "Why" question, so possibly a polite suggestion should be made as well about not filling their VMs up with it (As obviously if it were in the announcements forum a lot more users would end up doing it).

Ho-Oh November 5th, 2010 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 6271530)
Wouldn't the h-staff generally be in place of that certain mod who's on DLoA?

Uhhh. Okay, pretend a emulation mod is DLOAing and a user needs help with the section. If they went to someone like Drew, she wouldn't know what to do (I think?), but like how Gav had in his blog, as to who to contact if you needed help in that section, knowing that the upper staff are generally the latter option.

(Making this optional, of course, but in most cases it could help).

Ho-Oh November 5th, 2010 8:55 PM

...yes, but what I meant is like in Gav's blog where he did say specific people to go to for issues. I just think it might make it easier for the members if they know that there's someone that knows their exact problems, rather than someone who can only help a bit. :x (I was just using that as an example...)

As I said, just an optional listing of names in a title tag or something which the users can go to for their problems (and of course, only for those who are DLOAing, rather than demoted/quit/etc - while those who don't have any alternate contacts don't have to have anything listed, so it's just suggested they go to upper staff). Just an idea, nevermind~

Captain Fabio November 6th, 2010 4:56 AM

Personally, I am not bothered who comes and goes, as long as they don't get mad on power.

But from a community perspective, I think an announcement would suffice. It is a little confusing to see one person a super mod, then the next, nothing.

Legobricks November 6th, 2010 5:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-chan (Post 6271067)
Or staff could just put it in their blog.

Blogs just aren't a very 'obvious' feature to the average forum user:
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Originally Posted by Cassino (Post 6270610)
it would just be nice to have a greater sense of what's going on without the need for digging through the blogs [...] of individuals

One could use blogs, it makes sense after all, but I at least come to this place with a mind for posting and very little else, so finding information in the places one posts (eg. sticky threads, CQ&F section; forum announcements) would be considerably more intuitive.

Bay November 6th, 2010 8:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassino (Post 6272123)
Blogs just aren't a very 'obvious' feature to the average forum user:

One could use blogs, it makes sense after all, but I at least come to this place with a mind for posting and very little else, so finding information in the places one posts (eg. sticky threads, CQ&F section; forum announcements) would be considerably more intuitive.

Yeah, agree with you on that. I actually don't keep up with blogs like I use to, so a thread of sorts would be much better.

Guy November 6th, 2010 8:55 AM

Just letting you know, but the idea has been brought up in the HQ for voting and discussion.

As for linking who to go if there is currently no mod in the area, then a member is entitled to go to a higher up. For instance, if a member asking a question about ROM Hacking when up to Drew, and Drew didn't know, then she could easily point them to Hiroshi. We each know our specialty areas, so I don't think links are exactly necessary, but it would be helpful.

Platinum Lucario November 7th, 2010 6:23 PM

This idea does actually remind me of what is used on Serebii's Pokémon Place Forums, which I'd say that it would be a great idea, if it was to be used... I wouldn't recommend stating the reason why the person is demoted or even on a DLOA, because those are to be kept between the staff and the user that was demoted or is on a DLOA. So if it was to be used... it should be stated to be something like what Nick said:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 6271100)
"<username> is on a DLoA until <date>."
"<username> is no longer on the staff."

Wouldn't it just be great to be notified rather than not know what new staff are moderating the forums? Just as long as it's not stating the reason... I'm sure things will go fine. If we did have something like that... it would just feel as if we're going in the same direction as SPPF. Because I know the Username Changes were removed from PC, and the username changes were removed from SPPF much earlier than PC. However... the forums do have different reasons for the removal of Name Changes. SPPF had their Username Change Thread removed because of the staff being tired of changing usernames and that it made SPPF lag more. But as for PC had their Username Change Thread removed due to the fact that it caused Database Errors. But there is one thing I hope never happens: removing the ability to use Custom Avatars. But yeah... like I said... it would be great to have a thread where it lists the staff changes, as long as it doesn't state the reason why.

Legobricks November 9th, 2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiiro (Post 6272578)
Just letting you know, but the idea has been brought up in the HQ for voting and discussion.

It's nice to see one's ideas go somewhere... Please do say if it passes or not.

Guy November 10th, 2010 12:26 PM

Well, it has been discussed, and a majority of the higher staff agreed that something like this is unnecessary. If one wishes to know if and why a member is still on staff or not, they can do so by VMing or PMing that person. They are then free to tell you why they may not be on staff anymore and if they are coming back. Otherwise, business like this is left for the higher staff to be concerned with.

It was a good idea, but it just wasn't favored. :\

Platinum Lucario November 10th, 2010 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiiro (Post 6280800)
Well, it has been discussed, and a majority of the higher staff agreed that something like this is unnecessary. If one wishes to know if and why a member is still on staff or not, they can do so by VMing or PMing that person. They are then free to tell you why they may not be on staff anymore and if they are coming back. Otherwise, business like this is left for the higher staff to be concerned with.

It was a good idea, but it just wasn't favored. :\

I see, well in that case... I understand why. Did they even disagree to the fact of having the idea of notifying in Announcements of staff changes but not stating the reason why and all that? Because if an idea like that was implemented... maybe have it more like what Nick said about it. However... I would understand fully why they would disagree to stating the reason of demotion/DLOA and all that.

Guy November 10th, 2010 6:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver (Post 6281298)
I see, well in that case... I understand why. Did they even disagree to the fact of having the idea of notifying in Announcements of staff changes but not stating the reason why and all that? Because if an idea like that was implemented... maybe have it more like what Nick said about it. However... I would understand fully why they would disagree to stating the reason of demotion/DLOA and all that.

Actually, that's the way I presented it with Nick's idea. So the specific details of why a person may not be on staff no longer or at the moment would not be mentioned. But then you take into perspective that it isn't very often than a member of the staff takes a DLoA, resigns, or gets removed. More so a large group at the same time. So, the thread would be at a standstill for some period of time, if not longer.


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