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Pedophelia How-To Book.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/10/amazon.pedophile.guide/index.html?hpt=C1
(CNN) -- An e-book that was for sale on Amazon.com that appeared to defend pedophilia has sparked hundreds of angry user comments and threats to boycott the online retailer unless it pulled the title. Some arguments in short: Spoiler:
What do you think? Should it be pulled? Or do you think Amazon, as a retailer has a right to sell it? Do you think they should censor what they sell? Do you think the author has a right to write the book and Amazon sell it? Or do you think it's just appalling and shouldn't exist? Do you think it should be taken down even though it goes against the American Constitution's "Mob Rule"?.. What are your thoughts? |
I don't see why this book can't be sold. Sure it tells people who pruchase the book how to be a pedophile, but it won't be used for just that. If Amazon don't promote it like crazy like "OMG OMG OMG HOW TO BE A PEDOPHILE!", then I see no harm.
Some people like doctors in specific fields such as psychiatrists, and maybe even universities might purchase this to inform people what a pedophile is and the warning signs of what they do, so people can tell when a pedophiliac is around. Sure it may be illegal to be a pedophile, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no law against selling said book. |
Number one, Pedophilia is illegal. Unlike most things discussed, such as drugs and prostitution, Pedophilia is clearly wrong. I'm saying this because a child's sex organs are not developed enough for an adult's. Unless you're talking about teens, this is a definite no-no.
As far as Amazon, I wonder what went through their heads when thinking of this. Pedophilia, world-wide, is wrong, wrong, and more wrong. If you want to know a universal taboo, see pedophilia. So yeah I want them to pull the title because this is just sickening. Why don;t they have a pedo-bear book too? EDIT: Let me change a few words of mine. I think Amazon shouldn't sell it, because Amazon is infamous. Maybe some lesser known site would have been fine, but still aren't their pedophilia books for psychiatrics who don't want to become a pedophile? |
It should defiantly be pulled.
It is horrid material and is against the law, last time I checked anyway. |
It promotes illegal activity, so, for that reason alone it shouldn't be sold.
If the purpose of the book is one of pschological study, then the author and publisher are at fault for the angle with which it is being promoted. Similarly, from a brand reputation perspective, it would be wise of Amazon to not endorse (by making available for purchase), a product that promotes the abuse of children (let alone anyone at all). It is different from a novel in which such a situation occurs. Literary merit |
I'm glad they pulled it. They have the right to sell it, but it wouldn't do Amazon any good to defend such a book.
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I also take it that you don't know what the Middle East is? |
Well, appalling or not the actual material isn't breaking any laws from what I can tell. A person acting out what is said inside would definitely be illegal, but the book alone isn't touching kids.
The author is free to write whatever he wants and it's his right to do so. I find the fact that Amazon pulled it to be terribly weak. Boy, us Americans sure do love some censorship! |
Luck, I find what you say wrong. Cause I'm a Muslim and I know that stuff happens over there. Doesn't mean I approve of it.
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Amazon made a smart business move by pulling it off of their shelves, though. |
I think there is a difference between people who rape children, and people who enter into loving, consenting relationships with people under the age of 18.
Regarding censorship: Amazon is a business. If selling this book is going to hurt their business, than they have a right to protect their business interests. |
1. Amazon has as much right to sell the book as the writer has to publish it and sell it himself. This does not mean that they must do so, if they feel as if too many people will hate them for it, so be it. It's not right to the author but there is no law that ensures that any retailer has to sell their book for them.
2. As mentioned above, nothing can force Amazon to sell this book, however they must choose their side VERY CAREFULLY. If they refuse to sell the book, they offend anyone who believes in the first amendment. If they sell the book, they offend anyone who hates pedophiles...and there isn't any firm estimation of how many people hate pedophilia more than they believe that the first amendment must be upheld. So in essence, it's one of those "Damned if you do, and Damned if you don't" type situations. |
I wonder if it's the same book that was spreading around Florida a few months ago, but I think the book should be pulled, or at least Amazon should give the address of purchases to the police so they can follow them and make sure they aren't going around trying to kidnap kids.
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And I'm torn, the book's subject matter is one that I really abhor and think should not be made available for anyone - except perhaps psychiatry professionals looking into the behavior of pedophiles and the like. At the same time as this I still believe the author should have the right to write and publish their work and have it sold. It isn't one of those right and wrong situations, there are valid arguments on both sides of the issue. Though people shouldn't blame Amazon for selling the book, do you blame the grocery store for getting a shipment of diseased meat and selling it, not bothering to check it? No you don't, because their job is to sell the product, not produce or approve it. |
I was raped while I was 12, hate to bring it up.. *maybe* it was 11,but nothing above 12. Maybe it's just my personal experience getting into my mind but.. I hope this book burns.
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I don't suppose it does give instructions on violating children. Has anyone criticising it actually read it or are they just acting on established social prejeduces? It might be "how to be a paedo" but it doesn't seem to be "how to be a rapist".
"True pedophiles love children and would never hurt them," Phillip R. Greaves II said in a phone interview with CNN on Wednesday. I'm bemused at how in an age of tolerance everyone is still scowling at paedophillia like it embodies every Earthly evil. Someone with child images (we'll say, of consenting children) is no more likely to molest children than someone with similar images featuring adults is going to molest adults. If you think there's something wrong with loving children, fine, but please do consider the many harmless individuals effectively born wired to feel that way before you set up and support laws against the entire spectrum of paedophillia. And no, they shouldn't necessarily "seek help", it's not a disorder any more than being homosexual (just for example) is... At least, that's what I think. |
i commend Amazon for the mindset they've portrayed as quoted in the OP, and i agree with Cassino. i hate child molestation just as much as the next person- i'm a 'child' myself. but perhaps the book is guiding pedophiles on how to live with those natural thoughts but not act on them. we shouldn't be making such rash generalizations based only on the title of a book against a mass of our population- some of whom are perfectly kind and innocent people with no intent to hurt anyone.
not knowing the contents of this book, i have no opinion on whether or not the book should be censored- i just think maybe people should actually read the book before they decide it's immoral and destructive. remember that pedophilia isn't an ACT, it's an uncontrollable ATTRACTION. nothing illegal has been done until a child is harmed. |
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Censorship is censorship! Pedophilia is wrong, but some things aren't so black and white! If you don't want to buy something, or view something, noone's forcing you. Then againg if you want to buy a book about pedophilia, why should anyone tell you you can't do that?!
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Truth be told, there have been books published on how to conceal your identity, manufacture fake ID's, manufacture bombs, poison others, and so on, so the existence of this book doesn't surprise me. There was one book I remember that WAS pulled off shelves because it was proven in court that the defendant specifically followed instructions in that specific book to commit a murder.
As for the book in question... I don't like to judge things sight unseen. So I would have to hope that Amazon would have had someone read this book over (I understand they can't read every book that comes their way, but something with such a controversial topic should have raised red flags and triggered a closer inspection of the book's content) before deciding to make it available for purchase. They put it up for sale, but I don't know whether that means that they found the content to be acceptable or that they decided to make it available despite the objectionable content or despite not looking over the content at all. It's a fine line between freedom of speech and promoting illegal activity. If I were Amazon, I'd err on the side of caution and not sell it, but big business might work on a different set of morals than us. Amazon could always claim they couldn't publish it for any number of reasons not related to censorship. Regardless, I won't be boycotting Amazon, simply because I can get stuff on the cheap there. |
It was up to Amazon; censorship is one thing, but a retailer isn't under any obligation to sell something they disagree with.
As for the book itself, I disagree with the author for so many reasons. However, I do feel that whenever the topic of pedophilia comes up, people overreact and it's impossible to have a sane, objective discussion about how to deal with the problem. Books like this certainly don't help matters. |
It was subtitled "A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct". That kind of implies it was instructing people to do the romancing side of things, doesn't it? In fact...
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I would have advised Amazon to not drop the title, had it not been for the angry mob at the front door. As FreakyLocz said, if something is going to damage your business, you are going to fix it, pride or no pride. |
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As much as I agree that it should be pulled, I do think they have the right to sell it. They shouldn't have to be held responsible for the content, that's entirely in the hands of writer.
Besides, is it really telling people how to be a paedophile or is it just about paedophilia? |
I don't see why a retard would create a book like that in the first place. And I think it's also wrong for Amazon to put that up for sale. It would be the same thing as selling a book of how to make weed or how to kill without being caught. Plain stupid.
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I ordered my first copy and am waiting for next in series 'Racism How-to'. I might purchase 'World Domination How-to' but I already know how to.
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