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Meduza November 19th, 2010 10:01 PM

How Do You Feel About Child Harnesses?
 
For any of you who do not know, it's basically a leash for small children that parents/guardians use for safety measures in public.

There has been a lot of controversy about it, saying it treats the children like dogs and is inhumane.

I, and many others, on the otherhand, think it's a very good safety tool to use to prevent children running away and being put in potential danger outside.

So how do you feel about it?

And just to note, the leash doens't go around theur necks. It goes around their bellies.

Kenshin5 November 19th, 2010 10:11 PM

I don't see why it is inhumane unless the parents were choking their children with the leash. If they didn't care about the well being of their children then they wouldn't keep them close to them and let the wonder off which could potentially incur danger or damage of merchandise that the parent would have to pay. Sure parents could positively enforce good behavior by saying you will get a treat if you stick close to me and maintain good behavior. Or they could do the opposite and say if you act up so and so will be taken away or you won't get this. Both would not require the use of a Child Harness. My look on this is, that it is way for the parent to kept their child at a close distance and nothing more.

curiousnathan November 19th, 2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meduza (Post 6297778)
For any of you who do not know, it's basically a leash for small children that parents/guardians use for safety measures in public.

There has been a lot of controversy about it, saying it treats the children like dogs and is inhumane.

I, and many others, on the otherhand, think it's a very good safety tool to use to prevent children running away and being put in potential danger outside.

So how do you feel about it?

I can understand both points of the debatable situation, but I share most of my opinion with the fact that it is inhumane. I find straping a child to a leash has just gone too far. Many people have come to this option/solution because they cannot handle their children properly. I believe this just says to many other out there, that if you can't handle anything, then just strap it to a leash to control it.

It may however, provide parents/guardians with secruity for not only their child, but for thermselves; still the fact that we put dogs and cats sometimes, on a lease just beats it for me.

If parent can start to learn new techniques to control their children, then things wouldn't have to come to this measure. The people who use this tool/option I find lazy. Lazy that they couldn't keep trying other ideas to control their cildren and keep them safe. Having to use this tool is just lowering the bar.

I might come across strong, but it's just my opinion. Take it or leave it. There are both possitives and negatives that come out of this idea, and for me the negatives win.

Kura November 19th, 2010 11:37 PM

It's perfectly fine. I know I was crazy as a kid @[email protected] It's not like my parents could hold me all the time. I was the type of kid who would just randomly out of nowhere run into the street. Obviously my parents couldn't have that happening.. so back in the good ol' days they would tie a bungie-cord to my wrist to prevent me from running too far. A harness is just a safer measure.

I don't see what's inhumane about it if all it's doing is protecting a child ._.

Limey-chan November 19th, 2010 11:46 PM

I believe all children should be muzzled and caged.

インフェルノの津波 November 20th, 2010 12:32 AM

I've seen one. It doesn't look bad to me, though I have been known to be wrong.

But...thinking about more, I think it's a bit unfair if the parent is doing it just to do it. But if it's for the ones who walk away often, I understand.

But I'm still not completely sure about it.

PlatinumDude November 20th, 2010 1:16 AM

Child harnesses aren't that bad IMO because they help protect the child from the shock of a serious accident.

King Gumball November 20th, 2010 4:21 AM

It does come off to a lot of people as treating your child like a dog, even though that would never be the parents intention. For big crowds I think harness would be very appropriate.

linkinpark187 November 20th, 2010 5:00 AM

Do we really live in a day and age when holding your child's hand is that bad? I've got a 4 and 5 year old, and they don't try to run off, hand or not. I agree with Curious. It's lazy. It really doesn't matter the situation. If you're that afraid to hold your child's hand, then why did you have them in the first place?

Be their mom or dad, show them you care, hold your kid's hand.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ November 20th, 2010 5:04 AM

They're fine unless the parent is doing something stupid with them like tying it really tight around their necks. When used properly they can keep child and parent frm being separated in big crowds and keep them under control if the kid's misbehaving.

BTW, I have never seen one of these IRL... just on TV.

Rogue planet November 20th, 2010 6:28 AM

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Originally Posted by linkinpark187 (Post 6298099)
Be their mom or dad, show them you care, hold your kid's hand.

Holding hands gives the child even less freedom than a harness. And if the parent is distracted for just a few seconds and loosens their grip, a child could easily break free and run away. Harnesses mean they still have some sort of freedom of movement.

I don't see any problems with harnesses. It's in the interest of safety. Anyone who says they're inhumane is just complaining over nothing.

angel November 20th, 2010 7:30 AM

It has good and bad points to it, but what doesn't? I believe in some cases it is ok. You really have to look at the world, all the kidnappings, murders. If your child is one that runs as fast as their little feet can take them and hide then yes a harness is a good idea.

Putting a kid in a harness just because you don't want to look at the kid(s) every second is lazy. But if parents teach their child not to leave their side in a crowded place or go with a stranger or sadly even with a person they know without their permisson harnesses wouldn't be needed. If I was little right now I'd probally be on one because I use to unlock the front(On my tiptoes) and then go outside to play the railroad tracks without my parents knowing.

So yes in some cases I believe its ok.

Soari November 20th, 2010 8:37 AM

I don't see what the problem is. It's just a leash that will keep your kid safe. Using a harness on your child doesn’t mean that you’re treating them like a dog. If you've got a wiggling child that won't listen to you and screams at you because they don’t want to hold your hands then off course you don’t really have any other choice, but a leash or to lock them down in a stroller. It's not out of laziness or anything. It’s just only to protect the child. The parents won’t have to worry much and it gives a child a safe amount of freedom and the ability to walk without getting lost, so I don’t think there is any big deal in them.


Binary November 20th, 2010 9:12 AM

I've seen them, and in no way do I think that it's inhumane, unless, of course, it's used inappropriately. Like Soari already said, it's just to keep your child safe and stop him/her running off. And sometimes children can be stubborn enough to not hold onto the parents' hand.

Sydian November 20th, 2010 9:26 AM

They're only inhumane if the parent is putting a bowl on the ground with food and saying "eat" or putting the kid on that leash to go outside and let it do its business. Otherwise they are perfectly fine; my sister had one while we were in Disney World because she was constantly running around.

Livewire November 20th, 2010 9:40 AM

I personally wouldn't use one, If your child is running around and being unruly enough to warrant using one, just put them in a stroller or a wagon. I'd be humiliatd if I were caught in one or using one. xD

Ayselipera November 20th, 2010 10:20 AM

I had an Elmo harness when I was little! :D

Hahaha, I don't think there is anything wrong with them. The harness as I remember goes around the child's middle and over the shoulders. So I'm guessing it's comfortable for the child. Anyways it's just an extra safety precaution for child when in a public area. For instance if you have a small child and you'd like to take them to a crowded large area such as a mall you would use the child harness to make sure either your child doesn't run off or someone else doesn't snatch them up.

TRIFORCE89 November 20th, 2010 11:02 AM

Ridiculous. Hold their hand. Or put them in a stroller or a wagon.

If your child is bouncing off the walls, then you have discipline problems. Putting a leash them isn't the solution.


Ridiculous. Hold their hand. Or put them in a stroller or a wagon.

If your child is bouncing off the walls, then you have discipline problems. Putting a leash them isn't the solution.

Legobricks November 20th, 2010 2:19 PM

They look incredibly goofy, but there's nothing functionally wrong with them. Wouldn't use one myself though.
The way it works or looks similar to a dog lead is just how it happens to be, no need to draw moral conclusions about it.

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 6298558)
If your child is bouncing off the walls, then you have discipline problems. Putting a leash them isn't the solution.

It's more about stopping a child gradually wandering off after a pigeon or something and getting lost, hurt or kidnapped. Many mothers really do like to stop and talk for what feels like hours, all the while neglecting any other goings on.
A good example is train stations. You're not supposed to cross the yellow line, so what do young children do — they cross the yellow line. Then they're in for things like getting hit by a train (even teenagers sometimes screw around by leaning in front of the train until the last moment), falling on the tracks and electrocuting themselves, et caetera.

Agent Clank November 20th, 2010 2:51 PM

I've never seen one but I personanly think its a great idea, because kids now these days are ALWAYS running around.

Astinus November 20th, 2010 3:57 PM

I'm liking all the "parents are lazy" and "parents can't discipline" responses. Even the best parent can't watch their children all the time. Children can move fast, or a parent can take their eyes away for just one second. That one second is long enough for a young child to notice something exciting and dash ahead to look at it. Unless your child isn't full of the normal curiosity about the world around them, then the child is going to move away and could get in danger. Why does that sounds ablest?

Child harnesses are good for parents that need the extra hand with their children. Sometimes, hands/arms get too full for a single parent while shopping or even caring for another child. While on the harness, the "leashed" child can run around and expend some of their energy while the parent doesn't have to worry about them running off or hiding.

Some parents just need a little extra help in dealing with their children, or some children don't respond well to all kinds of disciplining, or sometimes a parent just needs to let their child run around a bit and the harness is the best of both options. It's not really fair to see a parent with a harnessed child and think "YOU SHOULDN'T BE A PARENT YOU LAZY LAZY JERK! YOU DON'T LOVE YOUR KIDS!" Sometimes, a harness helps out a parent who is already at the end of their patience.

I'm not completely for the harness for children. Because yes, children do need the chance to run around completely uninhibited. And some children might feel different if they're the only ones on a harness and no other child is. But, well, either the child is on a harness while the parent does their best, or the child gets run over/kidnapped/hurt in some way that could have been prevented.

I should probably mention that I have never actually seen a child on a harness, nor have I worn one myself when younger, nor will I ever use one. My opinions just based on what I've seen the other times this debate has been posted elsewhere.

Sammi November 20th, 2010 4:32 PM

I personally think they're a bit weird; I probably still associate harnesses too much with animals. However, I understand why they're useful, so I don't really judge people that use it. I'm sure they can be used wrong and be hurtful, but I imagine most parents aren't like that. It if keeps kids safe, I can't really be against it.

My mom had one that went around the wrist for my little brother, and it wasn't an awful device. Granted, it's been so long since my mom used it, so I don't really remember it, just that she had it. I want to say my little brother didn't like it, but he also had a really bad habit of running off, too. I'm sure at that point it was practically necessity.


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