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Sydian November 21st, 2010 5:53 PM

How young is too young for shooters?
 
We all know shooter games are a popular genre these days, and many people, ranging from many ages, play them. But then there are some that I think are too young to be playing shooters, especially the more gory/scary ones like L4D and Bioshock. So the question is, how young is too young?

Personally, I think the age kids should be able to play shooters is about 12-13, but not online, unless there's a rare case that that kid is mature, which more often than not, they're still whiny. And I'm fully aware there are members here that are this age and younger that play online at this age, but it's not like I'm holding anything against you for it. I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks is a decent age for kids to be playing shooters, online or not.

PiPVoda November 21st, 2010 6:05 PM

Honestly, the first shooter I played was Halo and that wasn't until I was about 12 years old, and I didn't get on xbox live. Before that it was just me, pokemon, and my other GBA games. Around that age is what I think is a good age to start shooters.

ShinyZoruaGirl November 21st, 2010 6:25 PM

Never gonna play Shooters, apparently I'm a girl and don't like gore. The youngest I've seen is 7.

Captain Hobo. November 21st, 2010 6:46 PM

I think 10 is the youngest people should be playing them.

TRIFORCE89 November 21st, 2010 6:46 PM

Generally, I'd say just follow the rating system. The Teen games are pretty spot on rating wise. So, 13 is okay for those shooters.

With Mature games, it's the parents decision. I'm not fond of the M rating and think it should be split in two (one around 15 and the other 17). There are some M games that I think are fine for 15/16 year-olds. Not all games though. The parent should educate themselves on the content of the game - not much; just watch a video

I wouldn't say there's a clean cut rule for all shooters.

Arcanine November 21st, 2010 6:46 PM

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If you're not old enough to buy the game you don't need to be playing the game... that simple. I can't stand listening to a group of high pitched 10-15 year olds using every swear word in the book just because mommy and daddy are in the bed (and I have heard it before where their parents came in the room and got on to them). I've seen some mature 15 year olds, and some immature adults. But it just goes back to the age on the box, if you're not old enough to play then you shouldn't be playing. Not because ESRB said it, but because I think it's a good age.

I don't think all M rated games should be M rated, I think there should be an in-between rating, like 15. You have games like BioShock that's scary and maybe gore (I haven't played them so I don't know) or Metal Gear Solid: Rising where you can cut people to pieces, and then you have games like Halo or MGS4 that makes you go "Why is this M rated?".

Silver November 21st, 2010 7:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanine (Post 6301106)
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If you're not old enough to buy the game you don't need to be playing the game... that simple. I can't stand listening to a group of high pitched 10-15 year olds using every swear word in the book just because mommy and daddy are in the bed (and I have heard it before where their parents came in the room and got on to them). I've seen some mature 15 year olds, and some immature adults. But it just goes back to the age on the box, if you're not old enough to play then you shouldn't be playing. Not because ESRB said it, but because I think it's a good age.

I don't think all M rated games should be M rated, I think there should be an in-between rating, like 15. You have games like BioShock that's scary and maybe gore (I haven't played them so I don't know) or Metal Gear Solid: Rising where you can cut people to pieces, and then you have games like Halo or MGS4 that makes you go "Why is this M rated?".

Quoted for truth. I didn't play my first M rated game until like 3 months before I turned 17, and that's because I talked to my mother in a rational way rather than just whining until my parents caved in.

If you aren't old enough to buy it, odds are you aren't mature enough to play it. Simple as that.

PlatinumDude November 21st, 2010 7:12 PM

I'd say around 7-8 would be too young for people to be playing shooters.

femtrooper November 21st, 2010 7:35 PM

Hmmm, probably 14 in my opinion. I didn't start playing 'M' type games til I was about 14 and I think it's an okay age. Grand Theft Auto was the first mature game I played and you can see the same stuff on TV and the internet, so whatever, but 10 year-olds playing it? 7 year-olds? NO! This goes with shooters...they are M for a reason, they are 'adult' situations. I never wanted to play those kinds of games when I was a kid, so I don't get it.

When I was little, I wanted to play Donkey Kong, and that's the way it should be! XDDDD

I work at a music/dvd/games store and it bugs me to see parents come in with their little kids and buy them Call of Duty or Metal Gear Solid and I say..."You know this game is M right?" and they're like, "Yeppers!" It makes me mad that you allow your little kids to play games like that.

Shadow Ball November 21st, 2010 7:49 PM

I was playing shooting games like 007 as young as 7 years old... and I turned out just fine, at least I think so. As long as a child can distinguish the difference between fantasy and reality I think it's okay for them to play a simple shooting game. Maybe not something M rated, but heck, I was playing DOOM on our computer when I was like 5 with my dad. As for stuff with excessive amounts of death, gore, ect... I'd say 12 + at the least.

ZestyCactus November 21st, 2010 8:51 PM

well idk because my brother was playing GoldenEye when he was like, 5, but then again, he loves Bond films and its not like GoldenEye is super gory. idk maybe 10ish? depends how gory the game is.

Chibi Robo November 22nd, 2010 1:18 AM

As soon as you hit puberty, because arent we all tired muting that kid who's obviously around 8 and is blasting his mic.

Purple Materia November 22nd, 2010 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcanine (Post 6301106)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Arcanine_88/esrb_m.png

If you're not old enough to buy the game you don't need to be playing the game... that simple. I can't stand listening to a group of high pitched 10-15 year olds using every swear word in the book just because mommy and daddy are in the bed (and I have heard it before where their parents came in the room and got on to them). I've seen some mature 15 year olds, and some immature adults. But it just goes back to the age on the box, if you're not old enough to play then you shouldn't be playing. Not because ESRB said it, but because I think it's a good age.

I don't think all M rated games should be M rated, I think there should be an in-between rating, like 15. You have games like BioShock that's scary and maybe gore (I haven't played them so I don't know) or Metal Gear Solid: Rising where you can cut people to pieces, and then you have games like Halo or MGS4 that makes you go "Why is this M rated?".

QFT. I was about to say the same thing. The ESRB is a really good idea, and it's there for a reason.

Zeffy November 22nd, 2010 3:16 AM

My little brother started playing GTA at age of 6, yes. I'd slap him in the face if he swears or anything, so he doesn't do it.

Archer November 22nd, 2010 3:35 AM

I depends strongly on the game. Here's the problem. No country has a perfect ratings system. We have M15+ in Australia, which I have seen Americans asking for, but on the other hand, MA15+ (same as M15+, except it's not a recommendation. You NEED ID.) is the highest that game ratings go. This means that particularly gory games, such as (apparently) L4D2 end up toned down so they can get a rating. If we had 18+ games, I would be happy.

Shooters are such a wide genre. You get things like TF2, where the violence is very mild, the graphics are cel-shaded and people around 13 are fine (provided they don't have a mic, lol). On the other hand, you have your horror genre, starting with Half Life, where the age should be 15. I also think that 15 should be the minimum age for GTA.

"Video games don't kill people; stupid people kill people. Video games don't make people stupid, stupid people make themselves stupid."

In other words, people shouldn't be exposed to that sort of thing at a young age because it mucks with mental development and values, but anyone who takes it to the extreme or is effected when above the age limit has a problem unto themself.

Alternative November 22nd, 2010 4:04 AM

It all depends on what sort of shooter it is. Some shooters which are for fun and just for killing aliens and stuff like that I would say 12-13 years of age. I would even consider putting the Halo series under this as well, but I haven't played Halo enough to know about it's gore levels and language.

Other games which are solely based on killing and gore such as the Call of Duty series and Left for Dead people should be at least 15-16 years of age. The young people who play these sorts of games don't even have the maturity to handle such content. They also probably beg their parents to buy it for them since all their friends have it or something.

Captain Fabio November 22nd, 2010 4:30 AM

It depends on the game.

If a game has this age mark:
http://ugpp.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/18.jpg

Then it is against the law for a child or anyone under 18 to buy that game. That is the law and people should respect it. For me, no one under 18 should play those types of games.

However, the other age restriction is more of a guideline to parents.
http://www.mcvuk.com/static/images/news/28945/184_3110_ESRB_ratings.jpg?i=1237379324

These are more guidelines to the parents, meaning their is older content, but nothing major.

That is my view on it. It depends on the certified age restriction.

Archer November 22nd, 2010 4:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 6301605)
It all depends on what sort of shooter it is. Some shooters which are for fun and just for killing aliens and stuff like that I would say 12-13 years of age. I would even consider putting the Halo series under this as well, but I haven't played Halo enough to know about it's gore levels and language.

Other games which are solely based on killing and gore such as the Call of Duty series and Left for Dead people should be at least 15-16 years of age. The young people who play these sorts of games don't even have the maturity to handle such content. They also probably beg their parents to buy it for them since all their friends have it or something.

Halo is borderline a "Disney Shooter", if it wasn't for the flood. Play through those levels on legendary in the dark with headphones. PC gives a better experience. That could screw with their heads a little.

Stellar November 22nd, 2010 5:11 AM

It depends on the maturity of the kid. Age is just a number, after all, and doesn't say anything about a person besides their physical appearance. When I was a little girl I'd play GTA all the time with my brother, and I'm not too screwed up. xD In fact, I had an unusually strong aversion to violence and swearing until I was about 15 or so, and sometimes I think it was because I was exposed to R-rated games and movies at such a young age. I dislike how some parents choose to keep those things strictly off-limits, as though they're something special. I feel like that might glorify the idea of violence in a child's mind. If anything, I say let the kids have their games but teach them right from wrong in the process. It's much better to do that than to limit what they're exposed to.

Ravecat November 22nd, 2010 5:41 AM

>15.
Even 15 is pushing it.

Until you're mature enough to not be a colossal douche, you should not be playing games like Call of Duty.

KanadeTenshi November 22nd, 2010 12:13 PM

It depends on maturity, not age.
And please, all "I'm 16+ so I'm suddenly smart" people, you most like were the same back then, and you probably know the reaction as well; makes me wonder why mute was invented.

Guren November 22nd, 2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanine (Post 6301106)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Arcanine_88/esrb_m.png

If you're not old enough to buy the game you don't need to be playing the game... that simple. I can't stand listening to a group of high pitched 10-15 year olds using every swear word in the book just because mommy and daddy are in the bed (and I have heard it before where their parents came in the room and got on to them). I've seen some mature 15 year olds, and some immature adults. But it just goes back to the age on the box, if you're not old enough to play then you shouldn't be playing. Not because ESRB said it, but because I think it's a good age.

I'm 15 and my voice has finished changing, if not, it's near the end. Just puttin' that out there :3 I'm not waiting 2+ years to play the game, and it's a genius of a game to be missing out.

It depends on who's playing it. If you're gonna be immature, then the game is unsuitable for you.

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Originally Posted by Ravecat (Post 6301654)
Until you're mature enough to not be a colossal douche, you should not be playing games like Call of Duty.

^Made me laugh :D

Agent Clank November 22nd, 2010 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 6300989)
Personally, I think the age kids should be able to play shooters is about 12-13, but not online, unless there's a rare case that that kid is mature

Syd, I couldn't agree more.
I think that if the kid is mature enough to play shooters than he should be able to play them, as easy as that.

butterbiscuit November 22nd, 2010 4:22 PM

I just think most people should follow the age rating.
I mean, it's okay that if you're 9-12 you can play SSBB. It's not gory or anything. But if you're 8 and you're playing Halo?... I think that's a bit over the line.

With M games, just follow the rules. If it's not a gory shooter, than the age can certainly be lower, though.

Agent Clank November 22nd, 2010 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by butterbiscuit (Post 6302534)
But if you're 8 and you're playing Halo?... I think that's a bit over the line.

Halo isn't that gory, ya'know that right?
Only one level is really gory.


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