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North Korea fires on South Korea - 2 dead for now
In an unexpected turn of events, Kim Jong Il wants to grant his son and future dictator a war so the country will accept him as a leader in those "difficult moments" without questioning it too much:
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Well, that's...that's not good.
I have a horrible feeling that this isn't just going to die down. |
I'd like to see a Hippie's reaction protesting the Vietnam war when it is similar to the Korean war, and will soon end like the Vietnam war if those MTV Punks and dumb****s continue to bash everything military because bands like Anti-Flag and Rise Against failed Government class so bad, the kids look at them as bloody rebels who fight against the mainstream yet the mainstream is what made those sad losers famous in the first place.
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Anyway, Kim Jong-il is mostly just wanting attention, I think. He does this every so often to remind people he's still around. If war does break out though, North Korea won't survive it - South Korea is a lot more stable country, plus they have US troops already in the country. Not even China is willing to stand behind North Korea in the event of a war. North Korea would fall pretty quickly, but it'd come at the expense of Seoul - where a good majority of the population live in South Korea. There's so much artillery already pointed right at Seoul, that it'd be leveled within a couple hours if war broke out. I think that SK and its allies are going to do everything in their power to keep that from happening. |
I think why the situation is so delicate is because of NK nuclear program, they don't want to provoke a situation where NK would use it's NK weapons. Even if it's an empty threat, they don't won't to run the risk that NK would use it's nuclear program against South Korea.
(Just an assumption though) NK may do such things for attention but killing people isn't really a good way to get attention =S And as Morkula said, if the two went to war North Korea would fall pretty quickly. |
Seriously, North Korea is like a real-life version of an online troll. They keep pushing the boundaries and nobody does anything about it but slap their wrist and say "no no."
They need to be offered an ultimatum. "Take any more military actions, and we will bomb the snot out of you." |
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Anyway, this is definitely not good. According to another article on there, a spokesman for North Korea said that this was in response to sea drills in the area and that if they do not stop nuclear war could follow at any point. Oh dear. This is very not good. |
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Now, SK is threatening to retaliate, which I highly doubt they will. This thing isn't going to end anytime soon as it seems. China,maybe, is the solution here? Or simply let them kill each other and may the "best" win. |
Tsktsk, North Korea what will we do with you...
North Korea is a bit, uhm, out of its league. Km Jong-il wants to bring attention to his country and feel that he is threatening. They wouldn't stand a chance if a war were to break out. Sadly, South Korea can't really afford to go into that war due to what they would lose. As for North Korea, they should know when to stop. That is, when their threats are laughed at, they obviously aren't very threatening. China is their biggest ally, and if one of your only friends isn't even on board with you, you have some issues. I think, that after a while, this will die down, unless it is pushed for war. The only way that North Korea will stop these games is if they are gone. Quote:
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Nowadays, every country is involved in everything. Ireland just asked the EU for some emergency money to pay their national debt, causing the Euro to drop value, causing the Dollar to rise in turn, increasing the international value of the US's products, reducing their exports, which in the end damages the US's economy. Now think what a nuclear war could cause in the world if they are not stopped before. |
SK won't do a thing; just like the sinking of the Cheonan. So, if SK was to really "retaliate" and please for God's sake do, punish them hard.
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With the Chinese depending upon the US recovering for the World economy to continue grinding...I doubt things will deteriorate to full scale war.
Big Bro China will hold the leash on N.Korea while Big Bro America will hold the leash on S.Korea. 8) http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50114000/gif/_50114613_military_balance_464.gif |
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Its just plain stupid how Kim Jong Il is trying to start a useless war. |
Well, this is certainly a bad sign... although, these small attacks have happened before. So, maybe nothing will come of it.
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We can't abandon South Korea. It would be like abandoning ourselves. This will probably be resolved without too many problems, but there's a chance it could blow up into something far worse.
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If SK decides to retaliate, KJI will nuke SK, and call it justified. Oshi'ite. Quote:
Attention-grabbing and stick-shaking. Quote:
This won't "go away." They don't have a monthly "Let's tick off the world" meeting, this is their life, and their entire focus. Mildly worrisome, considering the fact that the world was plunged into two world wars, and a nearly-nuclear war over the fact that a man was shot in Sarajevo almost a century ago. Quote:
Simply put... It's not the fact that it's NK, it's the fact that it's nuclear. World wars have been started over less. |
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I doubt North Korea really has the guts to start a war, with their...precarious position at the moment in the world. They're not exactly the most powerful country in the world right now... Plus, it'd most likely just end up with a big ocean where they used to be.
I just hope South Korea's threat of "multiplefold retaliation" won't come true. |
This seems intense, I hope it doesn't build up into another Korean War. :(
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bout time, can we finally take North Korea out now that we're not totally on bad terms with China anymore?
Though seriously, the only reason we didn't take North Korea during the Korean war was because China was backing them. One less North Korea is one less problem to worry about. >> |
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Do you even know what is a Liberal? Because even under that word is a lot of definitions: Social Liberal: Wants to provide for people's necessities Economic Liberal: Wants no Government intervention in the Economy Culturally Liberal: Wants no Government regulation of religion, beliefs etc. Politically Liberal: Most modern democracies are this allowing for government elections and such But this is just replying to a flamebait so to get back on topic the US is urging China to act on North Korea. |
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Ask a Democrat politician and what he/she stands for. Then ask a kid who thinks Punk Rock is alive. Now compare that politician to the majority of Democrat supporters. Ask a stone head about why Marijuana should be legalized, then ask an Attorney why he/she supports legalizing Marijuana. Those "Liberals" that managed to glue themselves to the political ideology are doing it in self-interest. My support for gay rights is not because I want to make-out with a girl in public, but because I truly believe it is their right as citizens to be able to marry and the such. Now compare that to those who simply want to see Lesbians naked in public. Horrible bands to create Pseudo-Liberals is like Mosques, Churches, whatever preaching what is deemed Conservative to our standards.....and if you don't support that view.....you're going to hell. |
Let's try to stay on topic shall we? This thread isn't about liberals. It's about the consistent problems going on in North and South Korea.
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I'd like to hear some good things about North Korea for a change. Although when someone says North Korea has a higher literacy rate than the South.. well, that's not very impressive imo.
Very sad event. I definitely do not want to live in Korea right now. I have no idea how the South should handle this situation. I do not understand the purpose of the North. China is opening up and is busily expanding its middle class and its share of developing consumer products for the world, but what's North Korea's purpose? :\ If the North has a peaceful goal--what is it? |
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[QUOTE=Went;6303675] So it's okay to leave a crazy pseudo-communist dictatorship with an incredibly opressed population who have never heard of human rights or anything similar to bomb the crap out of one of your allies, a democratic republic, member of the OECD and the G-20, creating a crazy wave of unstability in the Asian zone (which is just what we need to get out of the world crisis). [QUOTE] Yeah. Unless they ASK us to go help, why can't South Korea and China handle it themselves? Seriously? |
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But I agree, This is not the place to be right now. North and South have had skirmishes in the past, but this seems a bit more real in terms of the possibility of outright warfare. I think there needs to be UN or NATO peacekeeping involvement. Not like the UN is gutsy enough to call their bluff. |
I think this will die down over time seeing all the "provocations" the North has done this year...they are just looking for attention...
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I agree. While this could escalate if we feed the troll, North Korea, it can also die in obscurity in time. Of course South Korea has already had enough. They've issued the ultimatum: "Attack us again and there will be severe repercussions"...which amounts to a veiled war threat, sternly worded.
Of course this means if South Korea actually launches a military campaign, the US will no doubt step in too, and offer additional troops and supplies. I'd say it's about time, since North Korea has needed a good punishing, and not just the slaps on the wrist that the UN is so fond of issuing. If South Korea and China weren't so close, I'd say we should drop a big fat juicy N-Bomb on their cocky asses and be done with it. We know that'd set 'em back a good ways, even if we didn't drop the nuke directly on a populated area. I think we might be able to drop a few tiny nukes on them though but even then the damage might be too dire. |
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All I did was got into an argument, if arguing with someone who share a different view on things is considered trolling, then I suggest PC as a whole stop discussing Politics or anything that can get people to argue on their point-of-view. If you really think this is trolling, I beg you guys to go on Omegle. I guess I'm a troll as well as everyone else because I say I'm expecting a third World War out of the current situation in Korea. |
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TL;DR - KJI tries to do that: China and Russia would have no choice but to stop him. |
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They call that an appositive in English, and it is used to give additional information. |
Here is the thing. If NK gets a nuke, its all over. Bye bye world. I wrote this as a joke a while back and all my friends laughed at. They weren't laughing because it was funny. They were laughing because they could see something like this happening.
If NK gets a nuke, its bye bye world. NK would nuke SK, we would nuke NK back. The radation would spread into china and in retaliation they would either nuke us, or nuke the hell out of SK. We in turn nuke China and then Russia nukes everybody just for the hell of it. Soon after every one is tossing nukes left and right. A hundred years later, everyone has three eyes, four arms, and a whole assortment of other mutations. |
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And I'm pretty sure 4 or more are dead now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SK's defense minister just resigned, in other words, was fired, after the attacks. This was expected considering the previous attack on the SK's war ship, in which he was criticized heavily. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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To the topic: If the Chernobyl Incident in Ukraine does such damage, and 20+ years later turns living things into mutants, we wouldn't have three eyes anyway, because we're all dead. |
A trainer is a person. Multipule persons are people. A broad generalization, so lemme fix that.
A mentally insane person might have issues with complex rules of english like the, mentioned above, apositives rule. And again you forgot to read the entire post. If you had, you would have seen that i said i wrote that as a joke. So please, try not to take a stated joke as fact and/or a possiable future. But thanks for telling me about Chernobyl incident. I already knew about it but i always thought it occured in Russia. Edit - Knit picking english errors. The Chernobyl incident already occured so the world to use would be did, not does. Basic english really. I think its taught in the 2nd grade. |
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So you are assuming I am naturally born in an English speaking country? Learn Esperanto or Greek and have someone point out your mistakes without throwing in mindless insults. |
Guys, let's please keep this discussion civilized. Refrain from the trolling or feeding any trolls, the snarky comments, and disrespect. Also, stay on topic! Anyone who is to continue trolling or acting on any of the earlier things mentioned will receive an infraction as this is your last warning.
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The tension on peninsula has gone up in the past day. North Korea has fired toward the island again. However, the rounds fell in the ocean near the border. Also the North Korean government called the planed US-South Korea military exercises a provocation.
Source: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/25/general-visit-scene-nkorea-attack/ |
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I'm beginning to think we might really have the Korean war start again (The Korean war never really technically ended by the way so it's a restart of the war) |
I seriously do wonder how another conventional war would look considering the US has focused most of it's recent military R&D for the past decade on asymmetrical warfare.
Still during the recent (yet now defunct) military war game I did on another site on the possibility of tensions deteriorating (was based off the sinking of the Chenoan ship) towards resumption of hostilities, the main thing that held us back (as South Korea) on using military force was the possibility of the crude nuclear warheads being used as artillery right onto the main cities. Plus of course the mass of North Koreans going over the DMZ. |
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...Wow. So is everything up to Kim Jong Un now, or is KJ Il still in power? Quote:
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Sk and NK are only one step from All out war it seems...
The Us and Sk went ahead with their military exercises...I'll like to see if the North will carry out their treat or if it was a bluff... |
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