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Challenges 2011 - What do YOU want to see?
Seems like a few other sections are doing this, and since Challenges is the most interactive section I moderate, I figured I'd get some feedback from you guys. Feedback that's not coming from the CI&D, of course. But in 2010, we as challengers have gotten our own forum and made a name for ourselves in the community, much like how there are hackers and competitive battlers and such. But there are some things that I as a moderator feel weren't handled the way they should have been, and there can be improvements, so I would like some feedback from regulars (and non-regulars, as well! even other staff members, whoever happens to be reading this, feel free to pitch in with suggestions).
Now, I can't guarantee that everything suggested in here be carried out, but I will put my thoughts into everything that's given to me and take it into consideration. I do have plans for the section already, though. Although it's minor, I'm going to edit thread titles and add prefixes. Might not seem like a lot, but for some of us (and mainly me since it looks cluttery in my eyes) it just looks a lot more organized, and gives people an idea of what games are included in a challenge (even though most are going to be listed misc because they cover all games). Note: If you were going to suggest an index thread, hold your horses on that. The reasons that we do not have an index thread is because this is a relatively small forum with roughly three pages. A lot of challenges tend to just fall right out of the forum without any notice, so when these threads are still listed on the index, it creates a greater chance of thread revival, which would be annoying. And I also don't find it hard to sift through 2-3 pages of challenges to find a suitable one to participate in. Even if there were 5 pages, there still won't be an index thread. I have to look through approved, unapproved, and deleted challenges guys, so when all you see is just the approved ones, it's really not that bad. You're probably only looking at a page and a half of challenges as opposed to my 2-3. But I just wanted my point across as to why there's no index, so please, don't suggest it. That is something that will not happen during my time. Thanks for reading, and throw in ideas. Just please keep this argument and spam free. If you don't like someone's idea, don't tell them it's stupid. Like I said, I'm taking into consideration everything that is suggested, even if it's one or two things. |
Why is an index such a bad thing? If you don't use it stupid as "OMG GUIZ SYD APPROVED THIS CHALLENGE 4 MONTHS AGO LETS DO IT" and instead think "I am looking for a challenge in which this and this and this happen. Oh, there's something really similar to it that was created but lost popularity. It's been done, and I shouldn't try to revive it." then it could be a very valuable tool. I'm sure you get very similar requests that you reject over and over, that can be in the index too. The CI&D is good, but I imagined it as more of a workshop for challenges. Not a place for people to say "has this been done?"
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Something I forgot to mention in the first post also. I was considering having a guide to making a challenge thread. Like I said, I see some strange things come through for approval and it's a literal wtf when I see how some of these challenges are set up. Disorganized, incomplete rule sets, etc. It's a mess. Anyone like this idea? |
A leaderboard thing? Idk, it could have usernames of members participating in challenges, and then challenges they are doing or have completed.
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For a second, I thought you meant having a list of trolls in the forum, lmao. |
I don't see anything wrong with the way the Challenges are now. What kind of problems are we having besides the weird threads anyway?
EDIT: Speaking of threads being approved, have you seen the one I sent in yet? Sorry if it sounds like I'm rushing you or something, It's just been a little while since I submitted it, and wanted to make sure if it got denied or something. And what you said earlier about the guide for making Challenge threads, that seems like a good idea. |
How about some community competitions?
For example, you could be given a deadline to complete a nuzlocke and post a screen of your Hall of Fame team or us challengers could compete in speed runs via livestream. Just to give the forum a little more "Pizzaz". |
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Well, duh, i suppose everybody would like to see a challenging challeng! I am mainly looking for a fun activity which involves many hard challenges and tasks to complete.
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Okay, I signed on here to see what you guys are seeing. And I see at least 6 pages, so that's my bad for thinking you guys saw at least 2-3. However, when I looked at page 2, if anyone posts in those, they would be revived. So technically, there is one page of active challenges. Obviously we want that to change. But since it's one page of active challenges, having an index would be useless because you see all the active ones right there on page one. I know eventually more challenges will get added, but it honestly never gets too much past two pages, and three is pushing it. I just don't see it necessary for an index in such a small section.
I hope I've made myself clear on the index thing. |
I like the idea of having a challenge hall of fame.
But how would one organize it? like: Ultimate Monotype Challenge 649 - Rock or like: 649 Ultimate Monotype Challenge - Rock And I want to make pokemon hacks more involved. The complete ones, like Brown, Ruby Destiny: ROL, Flora Sky, etc. But this is mainly up to the challenger. Still, its a suggestion of mine. |
Oh good lord am I really quoting 7 people right now?
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What we could possibly do is have it to where you can only get on the "roster" if you've completed like 3 or more challenges that are hosted by someone other than you. Because I know that I've seen so many people say "I'm doing this challenge with these Pokemon" and then never say anything again. Why not complete one challenge? Well, I mean I think that the people that are going to want to be on that board will probably be doing a lot of challenges. The people who complete like 1 monotype probably won't care. Quote:
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And that sounds like a good way to bring more people to the challenge section. Quote:
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Honestly, both have their strengths and weaknesses. If you do it the top way, some people that want to be the first to complete a challenge (I wanted to be the first to complete the ultimate trio challenge, but I think PorygonZ beat me to it) can see challenges that don't have any winners yet. However, I really like the idea of the second example, if anyone is like "I wonder what Myrrhman is up to, they can easily see, rather than having to sift through all the challenges I've ever done, looking for the ones I'm still doing. _______________________________________________________________________________________ Oh thank god that's over. |
I was wondering how to get some of the hacks involved. mostly the challengers focus on the main games, so...
And the guide is a great idea. I would't be the one to do it, though. |
for my idea, Its champions only. Look at how cluttered the UMC thread is already. This is a hall of fame, so only champions get on there.
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Going back to tribal ebony's post, I remember a challenge that was called like the triple trigen ultimate master challenge (or something like that). On D/P/Pt (I think), you chose three Pokemon, which had to be from three different generations, and beat the game, but afterwards you had to beat the battle frontier. That was really challenging because the battle frontier is really hard, you couldn't overlevel, and I had never beaten it before. I still have the survival challenge on my list of challenges to beat, but other than that, I don't see any really tough ones out there. What I'm trying to say is that I can take any Pokemon team, grind them enough, and they'll be good enough to beat whomever I need to. We need to think of challenges that don't just modify the team. |
Sorry, I didn't read through the whole thing. /lazy
I would see enforcing the rules about trolls and complaints a bit more. Remember the death of the Anime Challenge and the first Random Pokemon Challenge thread ? It happened due to trolls and complaints. Maybe because people didn't see the rule, or because they want to be annoying. We don't want trolls here. Who does ? |
Yeah, I never use the quote buttons, I just grab what I need and paste it in quote tags. Dunno if using multi-quote is faster, but eh.
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But the trolls/complaints thing, all I can say is that I can't personally monitor every challenge, but what I can do is make sure I at least keep myself up to date on the challenges that assign. You know, read over them every once in a while to make sure things are going smoothly. Quote:
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That being said, I haven't done many of the harder challenges yet, such as the Nuzlocke, or doing any with NFE pokemon. |
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That kind of stuff could just be your own personal twist. It doesn't have to be specified in the rules of the challenge, for example, I could say "I'm going to do a Fire monotype in Sapphire, but to make it a little more interesting, I'm not going to use the Flamethrower TM" or something along those lines. There's really a lot we could add to our challenges without them being specified in the thread. I think we forget that sometimes. There doesn't have to be a thread on this forum for us to challenge ourselves in game, you know. I never had threads back when I was bored during the summer, I just thought "hey, I should play Ruby and only use grass types, that'll be interesting." Didn't even know that had a name, haha.
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They were talking about extra-hard challenges or those that require no creativity, just catch x Pokemon and train it to y level and give it m,n,b and v moves. The Red Challenge failed because of that, simply because people did not want to complete a challenge with the same Pokemon as the others.
I read challenge updates because they're interesting and I can see other people doing the same challenge as me, but with different Pokemon. I always read mondays's updates because they're interesting, and I know he is a better challenger than me. I want to learn from him. Challenges are actually a way to see how skilled we are. Maybe some people are not skilled, but through learning they'll know how careful they have to be while nuzlocking, what are the best Pokemon to use for a monotype, and the sorts. It's kinda like competitive battling, where you have to study to win. But here you study while playing. Sorry for going away form the subject. I just wrote brainlessly. Q_Q |
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I would like things to be a little bit more organized, and thread owners to be alot more active. If your not going to be active, why make the thread. Sure I know I'm one of them but I will try to be more active as well.
Also, please if you finish, PM or VM the Thread Owner. Because there's people who don't have the time to check the thread for people who finish. |
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