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imsoooonewb December 4th, 2004 3:49 AM

skarmory
 
Is it overpowered apprently mine is "uber" and overpowered i think this is very wrong here are its stats n leval.


IT CAN BARELY ATTACK I THINK ITS ORIDINERY! i being called cheap for using it, just because spikes owned my frienda!

[email protected] berry
steel wing
fly
spikes
roar


what are some other good movesets for this that could work, keep in mind i wanna keep spikes n roar n have limited tms though!

stats


HP:199

A: 135

D: 260

SA: 75 rofl

SD: 134

S: 135


please give me your opinions on this poke

Firemaker December 4th, 2004 6:16 AM

:\ :\ :\ What is it's level?

Toothache December 6th, 2004 5:46 PM

Skarmory is a defensive Pokemon, so Leftovers is probably the best item to give it (since it is part Steel and has very high natural Defence). As for moves, Toxic works well since it can survive many physical attacks, combined with Spikes for even more damage (and you can even poison several of your opponent's Pokemon for even quicker wins). I'd rather have Drill Peck over Steel Wing, since it's more accurate, but Steel Wing does rarely increase Defence, so it's not completely useless.

Shuckle December 7th, 2004 12:58 PM

and of coure Steel Wing shouts hello to rock types.

real-o December 7th, 2004 2:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imsoooonewb
Is it overpowered apprently mine is "uber" and overpowered i think this is very wrong here are its stats n leval.


IT CAN BARELY ATTACK I THINK ITS ORIDINERY! i being called cheap for using it, just because spikes owned my frienda!


stats


HP:199

A: 135

D: 260

SA: 75 rofl

SD: 134

S: 135


please give me your opinions on this poke

It looks like a pretty average Skarmory to me. A single Flamethrower would probably be enough to take it down. It's not uber at all compared to..say.. my Kyogre with 394 Sp. Defense. Anyone who calls you cheap for using that pokemon is just making excuses cause they suck.

IceKitten December 8th, 2004 2:54 AM

Skarmory @ Leftovers

HP Ground
Toxic
Steel Wing
Drill Peck

That's my un-RAWR Skarm o.o

Demonion December 8th, 2004 5:00 AM

[email protected]/Chesto Berry
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Att/Sp.Def
~ Spikes
~ Roar/Whirlwind
~ Drill Peck/Fly/Steel Wing
~ Toxic/Rest/Protect

Drill Peck and Whirlwind don't go together, keep that in mind

Spike Razzor December 8th, 2004 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuckle
and of coure Steel Wing shouts hello to rock types.

Rock isn't much of a threat is Skarm has Max HP, Def +Impish. So Steel Wing would be useless.

Satan'sLittleHelper December 8th, 2004 10:38 AM

I've been using steel wing skarm, and its useful only because some people expect drill peck and switch to a rock type. Another plus is you can use whirlwind over roar, but then I've yet to run into a loudred or mr. mime...

What is with the rediculous "no skarmory" clauses that some people have on net battle??? Its not that hard to kill...

Kairi December 8th, 2004 11:52 AM

People will complain about anything they can. And Steel Wing gets Aerodactyl, but I use counter for that. And for the CB Metagross that tries to overpower me. So it’s something to consider, if you don’t know what you wants besides Spikes/P-haze/Attack

And Mr. Mime can take advantage of your having Skarm out and become a huge pain. If you still want flying, you could do...HP flying or AA, I suppose.

Shuckle December 8th, 2004 12:43 PM

No matter how you play. Except HP Ground that is. Magneton kills SkarmBliss. =/

So yay for magneton.

Phlemingo December 9th, 2004 4:48 AM

Chances are magneton would be faster than skarmory anyway.

Frostweaver December 9th, 2004 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phlemingo
Chances are magneton would be faster than skarmory anyway.

Depends if Skarm maxes speed, which apparently some of them do and definitely do in RS-only realm... they have the exact same base speed of 70 so...

Kairi December 9th, 2004 1:19 PM

So Magneton allocates EVs elsewhere, takes the HP Ground, and still zaps the chicken anyways. =P

Kholdstaire December 9th, 2004 1:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Razzor
Rock isn't much of a threat is Skarm has Max HP, Def +Impish. So Steel Wing would be useless.

Not much of a threat. But Skarm can't do anything to them either. With a few Attack EVs at level 100, Steel Wing does anywhere from 30-45% damage to Aerodactyl, which is a big Skarm-counter. Rhydon takes about 25%, and Golem does also. It doesn't really matter what they can do to Skarm, but with Steel Wing, your opponent will have to find a new Wall, otherwise, their own Skarm counter goes down and you can continue to roxxors their boxxors ;0

HellishHades December 9th, 2004 1:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairi
So Magneton allocates EVs elsewhere, takes the HP Ground, and still zaps the chicken anyways. =P

Probably not with the 4x weakness to Ground.

If you put that many EVs into speed on Skarmory, then it's going to get KOed easily by something else than Magneton, since its tanking ability is significantly decreased.

Phlemingo December 9th, 2004 4:48 PM

Precisely. Skarmory's evs are usually not allocated in speed, but Magneton's are. That's why I said chances are... =/

Vagabond Aeon December 9th, 2004 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kholdstare
Aerodactyl, which is a big Skarm-counter

...what's it going to do, flinch hax it to death?

My experience shows that Aero isn't a Skarm counter.

HoundoomTrainer December 9th, 2004 5:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vagabond Aeon
...what's it going to do, flinch hax it to death?

My experience shows that Aero isn't a Skarm counter.

But Forry is with Counter.

Unless you run into the random FB Aero. *shudders*

-HT

Phlemingo December 9th, 2004 5:56 PM

CB aero would do considerable damage with rock slide, nullifying fire blast usually... o_o And there aren't too many steel wing skarms. Mostly, those steel wing ones are newb ones.

Kholdstaire December 9th, 2004 7:13 PM

Aero gets sent into Skarm because Skarm can do crap, except WW or Roar. Its basically something to stall it out, or sometimes Aero gets Roar-ed out, and so you Steel Wing it. And plus, +Defense boost>Drill Peck anyway, so, yeah, I'm such a nub =[

Phlemingo December 9th, 2004 7:19 PM

What I mean is that those skarms with Steel Wing are usually those kinds that have, like, 4 attack moves. Note the usage of the words "usually" and "mostly". Have a nice day.

Kairi December 9th, 2004 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellishHades
Probably not with the 4x weakness to Ground.

If you put that many EVs into speed on Skarmory, then it's going to get KOed easily by something else than Magneton, since its tanking ability is significantly decreased.

Magneton with max defense + some HP will take any not crit HP ground from a max attack Skarm. And 95 power Tbolt + STAB +super effective=sandwich topping in tin foil.

Phlemingo December 9th, 2004 8:23 PM

Even if the skarm survives and roars you out, whatever comes out can probably take off the little HP it has left.

HellishHades December 10th, 2004 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairi
Magneton with max defense + some HP will take any not crit HP ground from a max attack Skarm. And 95 power Tbolt + STAB +super effective=sandwich topping in tin foil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellishHades
Probably not with the 4x weakness to Ground.

If you put that many EVs into speed on Skarmory, then it's going to get KOed easily by something else than Magneton, since its tanking ability is significantly decreased.

Specialising Maggie to counter a specialised Skarmory seems strange, when Magneton is much more effective when it can have maxed SpAt rather than HP/PhDf -- its' not just for taking down Skarm. Skarmory isn't that much to fear, even if it is specialsed to take down Maggie.


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