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Livewire February 16th, 2011 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Derezzed (Post 6455805)
I haven't played the game yet so I'm not fully aware of the plot for Team Plasma, but I love the idea of crazy Pokemon activists Peta style.

Which is actually pretty spot on when you make the comparison. XD

But, I don't think PETA has a crazy, shadowy overlord figure bent on evil like Geechisu. :/

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 16th, 2011 9:37 PM

Lol the real life example to Geechisu is more like that of an Anti gun activists who want everyone to lose their guns so he/she will be the only one's with a gun...

Pokemon Trainer Touko February 17th, 2011 1:43 AM

Geechisu's awful~ He uses his own son as a tool just to accomplish his own selfish hopes of becoming the only person in Isshu with Pokemon~ Poor N~ Being kept in a little room with abused Pokemon... No wonder he's sooo pale~!

Livewire February 21st, 2011 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon Trainer Touko (Post 6460517)
Geechisu's awful~ He uses his own son as a tool just to accomplish his own selfish hopes of becoming the only person in Isshu with Pokemon~ Poor N~ Being kept in a little room with abused Pokemon... No wonder he's sooo pale~!

I think with Geechisu out of the picture, Team Plasma and N may have actually been a somewhat good organization. :0 If they weren't as extreme, that is.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 21st, 2011 6:28 PM

Without him though their would have been no Team Plasma as he's the one who made N view the world as he did...

metalflygon08 February 21st, 2011 9:41 PM

For the record, they wanted the Dragon, to be a failsafe, incase people wouldn't willingly release their pokemon. The dragon was a threat, with TP'i intention to level Unova if the peeps failed to cooperate.

Chadlington February 21st, 2011 10:00 PM

I agree, I really like this antagonist. Its a nice change. They're good but they're evil. Great story line. I haven't heard the whole story or played the game yet, so I will have to come up with my own opinions of 'N' when the time comes. And the outfits are ridiculous. Bring back Team Rocket I say. The Original and still the best!

solarowl February 21st, 2011 10:22 PM

The plot was great, but they should've added more onto the Dark Trinity. They were pretty cool ninjas. I believe that if he wasn't corrupted by his father, N could've made Team Plasma very successful. But, of course, without his dad, N would've made Team Plasma a good team to help people and Pokemon. After the battle with Geechisu and the truth is revealed, N seemed really dazed, and confused. I can imagine, in Gen VI, N might travel there, and when you talk to him, he says something about being on a quest to learn the truth. The truth about what? The truth about the world.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 21st, 2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chadlington (Post 6471030)
I agree, I really like this antagonist. Its a nice change. They're good but they're evil. Great story line. I haven't heard the whole story or played the game yet, so I will have to come up with my own opinions of 'N' when the time comes. And the outfits are ridiculous. Bring back Team Rocket I say. The Original and still the best!

Yeah they are weird...I wish they were cooler knight costumes at least...
I personally prefer Team Aqua's outfits compared to Team rocket which ran around in Pajamas...

インフェルノの津波 February 22nd, 2011 12:24 AM

Well I find their concept pretty damn awesome, I mean they are technically Knights of the Covenant, from what I think. I mean, Grunts = Knights, Priests well you know, N = King, and Ghetsis = Prime Minister or the Pope or whatever. I mean, think about it. The legendaries are dragons, so what do they do? Control the dragon. Also, the reason grunts don't know so much is because they're knights; they're only meant to serve.

But yeah their plan is pretty intelligent, Ghetsis is even smarter than Cyrus. Eliminate Pokemon Trainers, and be the only one left. Ghetsis truly is a genius.

Chadlington February 22nd, 2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by インフェルノの津波 (Post 6471157)

But yeah their plan is pretty intelligent, Ghetsis is even smarter than Cyrus. Eliminate Pokemon Trainers, and be the only one left. Ghetsis truly is a genius.

A genius. Or a lunitic? Actually I'm pretty sure they go hand in hand. So are the gunts actually called knights? Coz thats cool....its a little different.

They should wear amour and have broad swords or something. OMG they should totally make like a medieval Pokemon game!!

Lambda February 22nd, 2011 4:20 PM

Team Plasma looks like one of the best teams in pokemon. It may be that N's intetions were not evil but extreme. However the rest of his team could have its evil like Geechisu, The Dark Trinity, Most of the grunts, and the Sages.

Barn March 2nd, 2011 8:36 PM

Team Plasma's Twist
 
In each of the past games, the bad guys were all so focused on harnessing a Legendary Pokemon's power and using it to take over the region or the entire world. In Black and White, Team Plasma believe that they are being enslaved and should be set free.

Do you like this new goal? Do you care or dislike it?

darkpokeball March 2nd, 2011 9:09 PM

Well, this is a spoiler, but Team Plasma actually wants to be the only trainers with Pokemon. And yes, they want the power of the legendaries, they just don't come out and say it to the world.

Ho-Oh March 2nd, 2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barn (Post 6489717)
In each of the past games, the bad guys were all so focused on harnessing a Legendary Pokemon's power and using it to take over the region or the entire world. In Black and White, Team Plasma believe that they are being enslaved and should be set free.

Do you like this new goal? Do you care or dislike it?

It seems to fit in here since it's about Team Plasma's scheme anyways, so I merged it~

gregory_turner420 March 3rd, 2011 3:17 AM

N had good intentions, but his father was a selfish person. in general the scheme was an awesome change of pace that i really enjoyed

Regeneration March 3rd, 2011 5:30 AM

Team Plasma's intentions were pretty stupid, I'd say. I know that they are unique, but aiming to free all Pokemon from humans and stuff like that didn't seem realistic to me. That is just not happening. The other evil teams had at least reasonable and sensible goals. lol Team Galactic

Fire-Mane59 March 4th, 2011 3:16 PM

Lance, the guy who blows up cities with a pokemon... -_-
 
I havn't played the game, and i didn't read that much replies in this thread in hopes of not spoiling ma'self. (but did)
But... As soon as i heard Team Plasma's lil scheme, the thought of the ideals that had the Elite Four (In manga) shouted in my head.
But that's just comparing the game with the manga and that's just crossing the borders.

So I say. Good scheme, bound to have plot twists.

Livewire March 4th, 2011 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gregory_turner420 (Post 6489964)
N had good intentions, but his father was a selfish person. in general the scheme was an awesome change of pace that i really enjoyed

I like N/Plasma much more than I did Galactic, they seemed way too evil. :x

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 4th, 2011 7:44 PM

I like Galactic's plan as it's evil but N's is nice do it's Black and White aspects :)

Queen of Darkness March 4th, 2011 8:04 PM

My opinion of Team Plasma's scheme is that they are trying to do "GOOD" through evil means because they want to free pokemon.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 5th, 2011 5:35 AM

I've never liked the idea of Pokemon not being under the influence of trainers, ever since I scoffed at disgust at the idea of the Mystery Dungeon games. So needless to say, I probably see their plans as quite a bit more insane than others here.

And the hypocrisy of them enslaving and using Pokemon in order to liberate Pokemon doesn't escape me. Surely the gruints should have realized, "We're doing the exact same thing we're protesting against! What's wrong with this picture?"

Pika-power March 6th, 2011 5:10 PM

That's true....

Maybe the grunts/knights were planning to release their pokemon after they liberated other tranier's pokemon.

WriteThemWrong March 6th, 2011 5:15 PM

i love how understanding N is and how he actually treasures his pokemon even though his ultimate aim is to rid the world of their deprivation. team plasma and their scheme is definitely interesting

shengar March 6th, 2011 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barn (Post 6489717)
In each of the past games, the bad guys were all so focused on harnessing a Legendary Pokemon's power and using it to take over the region or the entire world. In Black and White, Team Plasma believe that they are being enslaved and should be set free.

Do you like this new goal? Do you care or dislike it?

Except Team Rocket. Well, they created their own legendary, Mewtwo. but it is too strong so they go to Silph Co. to get master ball so Mewtwo can be caught.
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Originally Posted by Fire-Mane59 (Post 6492281)
I havn't played the game, and i didn't read that much replies in this thread in hopes of not spoiling ma'self. (but did)
But... As soon as i heard Team Plasma's lil scheme, the thought of the ideals that had the Elite Four (In manga) shouted in my head.
But that's just comparing the game with the manga and that's just crossing the borders.

So I say. Good scheme, bound to have plot twists.

not really crossing border in my opinion.
That's why i like the Manga. they are 1 step beyond the game since the mange have more room to develop the plot, and characters role.
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Originally Posted by theowlmanlives (Post 6447085)
I have 2 things to say
1. Not all people have bad intentions for their pokemon
and
2. The costumes of the antagonists just keep getting funnier looking.
Why do the antagonists always have funny looking costumes? couldn't they wear something normal? A jacket with a logo is enough....

Prime antagonist, Giovanni(both the original dan hg/ss), Archer, Archie&Maxie, and cyrus have good design. It is their grunt that awful and ridiculous.


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