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インフェルノの津波 February 15th, 2011 10:51 PM

Would you have liked to battle against the Kanto Champion?
 
Apparently, there was an unused soundtrack hidden within the data of B/W.

So, would you have liked to battle against the Kanto Champion?

Now this makes me curious, who would it be? Lance, Blue, Red, or Ethan?

Xander Olivieri February 15th, 2011 11:45 PM

Kanto would be Red like the last real battle on HG/SS as Ethan/Gold is the Johto League Champion.

MrGriszell February 15th, 2011 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6458975)
Kanto would be Red like the last real battle on HG/SS as Ethan/Gold is the Johto League Champion.

they share the same champion

but no not really unless it was lance, because really red had no story ( its your story in red) and no personality .

Satoshi Ookami February 16th, 2011 1:14 AM

I wonder why is this considered to be KANTO Champion's BM...
Well it is surely Champion's music but I wonder why Kanto...
It'd be more understandable if it were Hoenn Champion's music so Steven's.

PlatinumDude February 16th, 2011 1:14 AM

I would have liked it if I could battle Red or Blue in B/W because of that track, but sadly, that didn't happen.

SinisterEternity February 16th, 2011 1:46 AM

I find it a bit weird that they put that OST in but don't use it.
Maybe it's some kind of event or something ? But I am pretty sure you get to fight him at least once/once in a while.
So I need to fight him -Gary/Blue/Green- only because it would be an EPIC battle because of an EPIC theme song :P

MrGriszell February 16th, 2011 2:04 AM

If we do end up fighting them in a event , there pokemon better be ev trained because by the time we face them most of our pokemon will at least be in the 90s. How epic would it be to have a triple battle between red,Blue and gold(red using, Pikachu ,snorlax)(Blue using Arcanine, Alakasam)(Gold using typhlosion, Feraligator) using all level 100 pokemon( ok maybe better pokemon because all you need is earthquake and you would take out all of there pokemon in one hit)

Calamity February 16th, 2011 3:54 AM

[QUOTE=MrGriszell;6459062]If we do end up fighting them in a event , there pokemon better be ev trained because by the time we face them most of our pokemon will at least be in the 90s. How epic would it be to have a triple battle between red,Blue and goldQUOTE]

This. Would be epic! Say if it was you bianca and cheren against red, blue and gold in a triple battle!

Either that or Steven from Hoenn, how he got beat by Wallace still confuses me..

Zelda February 16th, 2011 3:55 AM

If they were to use that track some point in the game, I'm guessing that would be GameFreak's Kanto reference, like how the other games have some reference to the region. Correct me if I'm wrong however, they might have a reference that I'm not aware of.

Because of the track, I would have wanted to battle either Red or Blue. Their Pokémon happen to be some of my favorites (Pikachu, Arcanine, Snorlax) and it's a battle I wouldn't mind having between them. Look at this way, we get to battle Sinnoh's champion again so, why not?

JP February 16th, 2011 6:23 AM

Maybe it's some sort of clue of what's to come, like maybe being able to fight one of these Kanto/Johto champions in the third installment. ;D

I do find it weird that they would input that piece of music in the coding and not use it for anything at all, what's the point?

Boarbeque February 16th, 2011 9:28 AM

a remix of the kanto champion music is in teh game...

blue February 16th, 2011 9:39 AM

Although it's a remix of the Kanto Champion, and people are suggesting Ethan/Red/Lance, it could be the Hoenn Champion, who hasn't had a mention in a while because we've had Cynthia a couple of times, and only Steven once.. possibly for a future event?

Xander Olivieri February 16th, 2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 6458982)
they share the same champion

but no not really unless it was lance, because really red had no story ( its your story in red) and no personality .

No they don't. They are two separate regions that share one location for their tournaments. Red/Blue is the champion for Kanto according to the games, and Ethan/Lance is Champion in Gold/Silver as the last fight with Red he is still known as Kanto's Champion in the game.

MysticFlygon February 16th, 2011 11:11 AM

If I would want to battle anybody to this theme it would have to be Blue because he's the only champion who doesn't share a theme with anyone else.

Red/Lance
Steven/Wallace
Cynthia\Palmer(D/P)

metalflygon08 February 16th, 2011 12:11 PM

Question was there this kind of speculation in Emerald with the Legendary Beast theme being discovered too?

Erufuun February 16th, 2011 12:17 PM

Wow, that music is epic~ <333
I would of sooo loved to see Blue(Gary) In Pokemon Black and White. That would of been so amazing. <33

Porygon Z February 16th, 2011 1:50 PM

I REALLY wanted to battle Gary/Blue, I even had in mind an awesome team for him: Tyranitar, Haxorus, Braviary, Gyarados, Umbreon, Machamp.

TrilbyMenetti February 16th, 2011 2:18 PM

I got to say, even if Blue or whoever doesn't make an appearance in Black and White, this is a fantastic remix. Thanks for sharing.

Speed February 16th, 2011 2:40 PM

Now I hope they really have a battle using that song. It's really good and I would love to hear it while going against a champion.

MrGriszell February 16th, 2011 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6459479)
No they don't. They are two separate regions that share one location for their tournaments. Red/Blue is the champion for Kanto according to the games, and Ethan/Lance is Champion in Gold/Silver as the last fight with Red he is still known as Kanto's Champion in the game.

No no your wrong. Look at the case with lance. In Generation I and the Generation III remakes, Lance is the fourth and final member of the Elite Four. He must be defeated before facing Blue, the Pokémon League Champion. By the Generation II games, he has proceeded to become Pokémon League Champion, due to Red going to Mt. Silver to train and leaving him his charge as Champion
so if lance took over as champion from red and you beat lance i think its fair to say Johto and kanto share the same champion

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 16th, 2011 3:45 PM

I would like to battle Blue/Red/Lance/Ethan again (and ethan for the first time) :D!

Fushigidane-Chan February 16th, 2011 3:58 PM

Just to clear up any possible confusion... there is no event in the game programmed to allow you to battle any old Champion in the game aside from Cynthia. Events like the Darkrai event are programmed into the games from the start; they're just not unlocked until you receive the pre-determined tickets/items/event activators. Not to mention there isn't any trainer data or sprites for them, either. So, it's impossible to battle Red, Green, Lance, etc. in Black and White.

That being said, it's possible the Champion Remix OST may be used in the future; I'm specifically referring to the United Tower, or the third version. Or, it can simply go on unused. It's a good remix; I wouldn't mind if it went unused, but it'd be a waste then.

As for myself, I would've loved to battle an old Champion; but we just got the opportunity to battle Red, Green, and Lance all in HGSS, and I'm pretty content with the cameos we have now (although, I wish Cynthia was battleable every day, but oh well).

bobandbill February 16th, 2011 4:02 PM

Actually.. unused tracks from other games have often turned up in Pokemon game files if memory serves. *checks music files* Yep - FRLG had RSE's battle themes and the Pokemon Institute music in it for instance, while Ruby/Sapphire had a redone version (ie trumpets) of GSC's Route 38, an...accordion version of Team Rocket's theme, and the legendary Johto Beast battle theme. I bet there's instance of the same in 4th gen games as well, so this was probably just a track that came about from sound testing using tunes they already made before from previous games, I bet.

So imo I think it's more likely that tune was just picked for a sound test for the type of music they used for B/W as opposed to prior planning for you to battle a Kanto champion that got scrapped (if people found data on such a trainer's team however... but if there wasn't any than why make a song before putting in the trainer data anyway?).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 16th, 2011 4:06 PM

Ah I was just about to post that xD
Yeah lots of data that hasn't been used has popped up in future pokemon games ;)

Rai February 16th, 2011 8:28 PM

I have always thought that it would be epic if you could visit every region in one game. It would be one long game, but I've always imagined how much fun it would be. You could battle every Elite Four, every Champion and every Rival!


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