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Ho-Oh February 27th, 2011 2:20 AM

Combination Attacks [ #22 ]
 
Black and White Weekly Poll #22 → Poll IndexPrevious Poll

Combination Attacks


Firstly, I'd like to say that I got seven or so weekly poll ideas, so it was really hard to pick just one, but in the end I went with dragonomega's poll idea! The others I'll probably do later on.

Basically, combination attacks are combinations of three new attacks: Water Oath, Grass Oath and Fire Oath, which can only be used by starters in double battles.

Quote:

Grass Oath + Fire Oath
When both moves are used during a double or triple battle they will combine, creating a field of fire, inflicting damage to your opponent each turn, like burn but without the attack hindering effect.

Fire Oath + Water Oath
These moves will create a rainbow across the field, the effect of this is Serene Grace, granting everyone higher chances of secondary effects appearing.

Water Oath + Grass Oath
This will turn the field into a swampy moor, making your opponents Pokemon move slower.
Going to keep it simple and just ask...

Do you like the addition of combination attacks?

If yes, do you think they should've been added earlier?
If not, why? Are they overkill to an already great battle system?
What other moves do you think could be used as a combination attack?

If you have any poll ideas, feel free to PM Kaori or myself with them. We may not use them the following week after you have suggested them, but we're likely to consider them in the near future.

vaporeon7 February 27th, 2011 2:25 AM

They are a nice addition but personally I won't use them. It would be nice to see more with older moves such as Water Gun then Thundershock and things like that.

King Gumball February 27th, 2011 2:26 AM

I personally don't care for them one bit. They are interesting, but probably a bit overkill :/ I mean it is so not necessary, and I for one am not going to take the effort to use two starters in a double battle only to use that combo attack.

I honestly don't want any other moves to become a combination attack, it just isn't necessary :/ Other wise the three elemental monkeys could learn a combo attack I guess.

But yeah just not necessary, but I don't care for it.

インフェルノの津波 February 27th, 2011 2:44 AM

Sounds pretty crappy if you ask me.

Wake me up when Thunderbolt + Quick Attack combo arises. Until then, zzz.....

PlatinumDude February 27th, 2011 2:57 AM

The concept of combination attacks sounds cool, but it's gimmicky to me. I wouldn't waste a move slot on each of my Pokemon for a field effect, but the Grass Oath + Fire Oath combination sounds tempting to use.

skyluigi2 February 27th, 2011 3:01 AM

I like them. The concept of combination makes the whole system feel more realistic. But... only three combinations... -.-

Eliminator Jr. February 27th, 2011 3:36 AM

The problem with it is that there are only three combination attacks, and there's so much potential for more combination attacks. If they expanded on this instead of only having three it'd be a decent feature but for now I don't think many people are going to use combos.

Alternative February 27th, 2011 4:16 AM

I like the idea for combination attacks myself, and think they'd be quite useful in the games. I just think that there should be much more of an abundancy of combination attacksm since three doesn't really seem to cut it, especially when they're kinda weak by themselves. Maybe if they added more of them, then I'd be quite content with them, such as maybe the same Pokemon using Double Team and Thunderbolt would result in two weaker thunderbolts, but both hitting the enemy, or maybe something like Lava Plume and Surf/Water Gun being used on the same Pokemon would result in them becoming encased with cold Magma or something.

tl;dr It's a good thing, but more is needed.

pokewalker February 27th, 2011 4:58 AM

I don't understand how I can use them, and I most likely won't use them if I knew how.

Zeffy February 27th, 2011 5:09 AM

They'd be useful for long battles, especially Water Oath + Grass Oath. I like them but not as much as I like Harry Potter. I'd use it, but I'd use it rarely. Still.

tkallab February 27th, 2011 5:15 AM

They seem kind of useless to me, as the majority of the game is still one on one battles :/ But it's a nice idea, I hope to see more combinations in later generations.

Kevin February 27th, 2011 6:53 AM

I never even heard of this feature before. D:
I don't really care actually, it doesn't seem like a big thing.

~Wind~ February 27th, 2011 7:44 AM

I like them, and a good combination attack could be:
Secret power + A move of any type.
for example;
Secret power + Ember = Fire power.

Adam. February 27th, 2011 9:10 AM

This is a nice feature although, I do think it should have been implemented in the Third Heneration with the introduction of Double Battles as the attacks only require two attacks, not three (like a Triple-battle).
Still, I probably won't even use them as they just give secondary effects, which isn't really my style of battling (head on for me!).

X Latios February 27th, 2011 9:34 AM

The problem I see with them is that it was one of those things where you have to either go all the way (ie make loads of moves have combination effects) or not do it at all but instead we got three moves leaving them largely useless for most battle situations. So I voted "I don't like" it because I feel it was implemented badly.

Weavile05 February 27th, 2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkallab (Post 6482171)
They seem kind of useless to me, as the majority of the game is still one on one battles :/ But it's a nice idea, I hope to see more combinations in later generations.

This
This would've been great in Emerald, since Double Battles were spammed beyond belief. However, there's just not enough Double and Triple battles to be able to pull this off. Also, limiting the moves to only starters was quite a foolish idea, I think legendaries should have these moves as well. Or some pokemon can learn it through breeding or something. Now, with that said, I'll probably try and use the Grass Oath/Fire Oath Combo, If I can get ahold of Emboar and Serperior, which are Ironically the two starters I'm not picking lol.

Fushigidane-Chan February 27th, 2011 10:19 AM

I don't plan on using them. I like the concept, but the lack of variety in combination attacks is disappointing.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 27th, 2011 10:58 AM

It's a nice Idea but it would take some time to set it up...maybe I'll use it against normal trainers but not in competitive battling...

Bluerang1 February 27th, 2011 11:55 AM

I don't see myself using them but they're a nice idea. They also support my idea of creating combination moves for Pokemon Contests in the R/S remakes :D

Bankaiglade February 27th, 2011 12:42 PM

Yeah! I dont have black or white yet...But...When i do i`ll try this! But,sounds a bit of a waste, because....Why is there only three NEW combination attacks?! Since i can easily picture things as such in my head i see plenty,of combiantion attacks that make perfect since and work! such as,Dialga`s roar of time and darkrai`s dark void being made into a combo attack,Darkrai puts the for into a deep sleep,while dilaga uses roar of time near the foe and make time stop around it...or something like that....-_-XD Anyway...I will use these combination attacks and the old ones i know and love! such as ~ Sunny-day+solarbeam+Synthesis+solarbeam!~ :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6482837)
I don't see myself using them but they're a nice idea. They also support my idea of creating combination moves for Pokemon Contests in the R/S remakes :D

:O Thats A very great idea! It would make Pokemon contests waaay Funner! Have you made a thread about this? xD

Multigen February 27th, 2011 1:15 PM

I think this is kind of stupid. There's no way I'm going to teach two of my pokes moves that dont do anything except take up space if you are ever in a single battle, one of the pokes faints, you dont have both of them on your team, or one of them can't use the move for whatever reason.

Calamity February 28th, 2011 10:07 AM

I like them, but will probably never use them seeing as theres only 3 combinations, all having to be done by starters -_-

soϲks February 28th, 2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShinySalamence888 (Post 6484616)
I like them, but will probably never use them seeing as theres only 3 combinations, all having to be done by starters -_-

Can't the monkeys learn the moves too? I'm probably mistaken, but...

Anyway, I actually was really excited for the "combination" moves when they were first announced. I kind of would have preferred to see a lot more variety and um other combination moves. I mean, these are kinda cool, but when it's so exclusive and limited, it really puts a damper on combination moves in general. :/

ShinyMeowth March 1st, 2011 2:37 AM

They should add Fly+Thunder. Yay for Thunder Armor. Anyway, the concept sounds interesting, and if not useful, at least it will be a nice effect.

SilverCrown March 1st, 2011 3:38 AM

I really love the idea of them adding new things to the games to improve them even more, but I probably won't end up using them. But it's cool that they're trying different things now. :)


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