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Deaths Jaws December 7th, 2004 11:17 PM

alakazam moveset question/help
 
ok im about to make a Zam for spc attacking but am stumped at what elemental punch to have.

so far this is my moveset:

Alakazam
Timid/Modest

- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Unsure
- Elemental Punch (???)


please help me out with this.

thanks in advance all

Jaws...

EDIT: also can i please have the possible breeding trees for getting ANY two elemental punches please cos i cant figure out how to get two onto my alakazam for the following sets i just thought of:

Calm mind
psychic
Ice punch
fire punch



#2

Calm Mind
Psychic
Ice Punch
Electric/lightning punch (forgot what its called :) )

thanks again guys

Jaws out a final time....

Demonion December 8th, 2004 5:05 AM

[email protected] Berry/Choice Band
Nature: Timid/Modest
Evs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp.Att
~ Psychic
~ Ice Punch
~ Thunderpunch
~ Calm Mind/Fire Punch/HP Water/Encore/Trick

Obviously Choice Band goes with Trick, and sorry i don't know the breeding chains for the punches, i bet Toothache know :)

kirby00 December 8th, 2004 8:12 AM

why recover, or calm mind? alakasm is fragile, unless taking sp a, but even so... id just give it hp water, fire punch, or maybe trick

Demonion December 8th, 2004 9:00 AM

Your right about recover though but zam could calm mind once or twice against a weakened opponent making him even more dangerous

Mana Lugia December 8th, 2004 9:02 AM

Azam can calm up against a Blissey, although not advised since it'd just Twave you and then switch to a power sweeper and OHKO you.

Pogiforce-14 December 8th, 2004 9:27 AM

Thoguh if the opponent can switch, so can you. Half the skill involved is being able to predict his opponent's moves. A calmzam is good if used carefully. Because if you give hime too many offensivce moves, , and it comes up against a special tank, what good will he be? You would have to power him up for him to be any good, or switch out to a physical sweeper. Besides, Alakazam has awesome special attack, and in that area he deserves some respect. and if you use calm mind to make it stronger, then all the more dangerous.

Spike Razzor December 8th, 2004 10:19 AM

Kazam just doesn't have the Def to sit there an CM until it get +6, you will faint for sure. Sweep with Sp. Atk would be the smart thing to do.

Alakazam @ Lum Berry
Psychic
All 3 punchs

Shuckle December 8th, 2004 12:41 PM

I'd say put someting good over some of those punches. :p

You could do TrickBand. Nice Surprise for Blissey that uses Heal Bell. Must have good prediction skillz =O

Iveechan December 8th, 2004 9:30 PM

Breeding chains for punches: Medicham, need several heart scales to learn the moves, or Hitmonchan who learns all moves by level up at level 26.

Mana Lugia December 8th, 2004 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogiforce-14
Thoguh if the opponent can switch, so can you. Half the skill involved is being able to predict his opponent's moves. A calmzam is good if used carefully. Because if you give hime too many offensivce moves, , and it comes up against a special tank, what good will he be? You would have to power him up for him to be any good, or switch out to a physical sweeper. Besides, Alakazam has awesome special attack, and in that area he deserves some respect. and if you use calm mind to make it stronger, then all the more dangerous.

The problem is, what exactly is Azam going to calm mind up against that isn't going to OHKO it? You can argue things that don't attack Zam that well, such as.... uh... pure special sweepers? But then they switch to a special wall like Blissey and then you get Twaved. If you switch, you lose your CM. You calm against another CMer and you'd either get roared (Suicune) or killed (HP dark Espy?). Your best bet is indeed to calm up against an offensively weak tank, but every tank has something that can disadvantage zam. One twave, and out comes the big gun, and even if you Psy on the switch, you might not even end up killing it, and thus get OHKO'd.

Shuckle December 9th, 2004 1:16 PM

Which comes to the conclusion of the speech.

Alakazam = OU and for good reason.

Alakazam Trying to CM = poopy ='[

Orochi Breakwing December 9th, 2004 6:42 PM

Zam really doesent need Calm Mind, IMO, but I run CM over TrickBand b/c most people like to stick you with a status condition, and the Synchronize-Lum Berry combo is pretty funny. Also, if Zam survives the turn he CMs, if he didnt get paralyzed, hes gonna rock somebody's WORLD.

My zam has:
Psychic
Calm Mind
Ice Punch
HP Dark

But thats just me.

Mana Lugia December 9th, 2004 6:46 PM

That only holds true if Blissey isn't doing the Wave, which it definately would be if the team has one.

HoundoomTrainer December 9th, 2004 6:47 PM

Zam doesn't have the Defenses to CM. Give him Psychic, Ice/Thunder Punch, and HP Dark. He doesn't need Fire Punch.

Espeon though IMO, is better than Zam.

-HT

Vagabond Aeon December 9th, 2004 6:55 PM

Personally I find Gardevoir to be superior to Zam. Sure, Zam has the Speed advantage, but Gardevoir can take a hit and keep on truckin'. And come the Emerald update to NB, she gains the Punches, which IMO gives me more of a reason to use her over Zam. And I never liked Will-O-Wisp too much anyway.

Phlemingo December 9th, 2004 6:58 PM

How about this: @ Lum
Reflect
Calm Mind
HP dark
Psychic

Since he's fast, he'll have a quick turn to Reflect. Then his special weaknesses will be not so harsh with calm mind. When it runs out, another reflect. Maybe a couple of calm minds, then sweep. Not to ambitious, mind you.

klducks December 9th, 2004 7:09 PM

alakazam @ lum/leftovers
psychic, t punch, ice punch, fire punch and cm can fit > any of the E punches

pseudovector December 10th, 2004 12:16 AM

For one of my battle tower teams I used alakazam for the special attack/defense enforcer. Calm mind, recover, psychic, and fire punch.

Above level 50 there are lots of tough special attack monsters. So alakazam could sit out and calm mind at least a few times. After that fire punch to take out the regice and registeel or psychic anything else.

Toothache December 10th, 2004 8:14 AM

I'd rather give someone else the job of setting up pseudopass for Zam, but having Reflect somewhere on the team certainly helps him to CM once or twice. One of the rare instances when Recover will be useful for Zam.


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