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Nukez March 6th, 2011 2:19 PM

Which Rival is more challenging?
 
Tell me which rival you think is more challenging to beat. based on pokemon types,moves,levels. Cheren,Bianca, or N. and my internet is bugged so just tell your vote below

Pika-power March 6th, 2011 4:06 PM

I think N, because he has Reshiriam/Zerkrom.
Cheren comes in a close second.
Sorry, Bianca!

blue March 6th, 2011 4:20 PM

I've had a little trouble with Biancas Stoutland and other encounters by her so I'd say Bianca!

charlulz March 6th, 2011 4:54 PM

I am not too far in the game but I would say Cheren so far.

Derezzed March 6th, 2011 5:07 PM

Cheren, Bianca is not difficult whatsoever.

Barn March 6th, 2011 5:10 PM

I'm not that far, so Cheren. That Snivy...

adhdguitar March 6th, 2011 5:21 PM

I haven't noticed too much of a difference between Cheren and Bianca, maybe the former is a tad stronger. N of course is fairly weak.
Spoiler:
Until the end of the game that is, when he becomes very strong.

Volcom22 March 6th, 2011 5:27 PM

Since I've started M has been the only true challenge... Bianca is a joke each time you face her. Cheren is a tad challenging but isn't too hard to overcome.

BenjiTheKid March 6th, 2011 6:39 PM

Between Bianca and Cheren, I'd have to say the latter. Bianca has been rather easy to defeat thusfar. (Granted, I'm not far in the game, but nevertheless) Cheren has been easy, too... but the fact that he's made good use of hold items had made up for it.

As for N, he hasn't been too hard yet, either. So far, I find Cheren has been a tad harder to beat than N, too.

GlitchCity March 7th, 2011 4:21 AM

Cheren has been giving me a hard time lately, now I need to grind like crazy on Black.

0soniclordsonic0 March 7th, 2011 4:57 AM

eh, i think cheren is harder then anybody (like most here, i just got the game sunday), N only had one pokemon (laughin it up over his weakness), so far no one is overly hard for me

Zelda March 7th, 2011 5:00 AM

I haven't reached too far into the game yet, but as of now they are both at an equal level of difficulty. Both rival battles have been enjoyable (although easy) for me so far as well.

miakalina March 7th, 2011 7:12 AM

I think Cheren is harder for me to beat than Bianca. Bianca is kind of a push over.

Satoshi Ookami March 7th, 2011 7:17 AM

I guess Cheren. He's also epic, he can heal pokemon O_o
Belle was pretty weak... and N was epic but not so hard to beat and he did not get enough game time.

Nameless. March 7th, 2011 7:17 AM

To be honest, both of them are pretty difficult right now. xD;
I'm not really grinding much. I'm mostly just chilling out and traveling around.

So now when I battle them I tend to be behind in level and have a lot of trouble. ><;


Ho-Oh March 21st, 2011 6:40 AM

Bianca was. My Pokemon were mostly super effective against both N and Cheren, whereas Bianca, shockingly not :(

Hermione Granger March 21st, 2011 7:21 AM

I just reached the pokemon league, and up to that point Cheren been my toughest rival. Guess I'll see how powerful N became when I defeat the elite 4.

DayDreamer March 21st, 2011 7:24 AM

None of them were challenging until the last battle with N. I feel sorry for beating Bianca so easily T_T.

Pokemon Trainer Touko March 21st, 2011 7:26 AM

Tbh, all three of them were pretty easy. But if I have to pick one then it will be N.

Zeffy March 21st, 2011 7:30 AM

N has to be the toughest. I hate his Sigilyph in Nimbasa's rollercoaster.

Roughsponge March 21st, 2011 7:30 AM

Probably N, although sometimes he was easy. Bianca was a little difficult with her Stoutland and Musharna, but I always found Cheren a bit of a push over.

Eurydice March 21st, 2011 7:48 AM

i think N would have to be the toughest. followed by cheren. the only part of bianca's team that was a challange was her stoutland and even that was somewhat easy to beat

EJ March 21st, 2011 7:57 AM

Cheren was the only one that ever gave me trouble but nothing too bad.

The girl was the biggest pushover though haha

fire woven March 21st, 2011 8:25 AM

Cheren all the way. I beat Bianca every time, N didn't ever give me too much trouble. Cheren was supposed to be the toughest though. Bianca, in my opinion, is there for the starter Pokemon dex enteries on the one weak to you.

How are people being even remotly challenged by Bianca, she was patheticc. Cheren I actually had to pull my event celebi on once, right after beating the fourth gym.

Perriechu March 21st, 2011 8:27 AM

I actually have to say Bianca :( Although Cheren or Bianca never actually beat me, that Haderia/Stoutland gave me trouble >:( Take down/Return is just so beastly on it ;-;

Ice Car March 21st, 2011 9:38 AM

N, Cheren, Bianca in that order.

lawlercopter March 21st, 2011 10:11 AM

N by far. Cheren and Bianca never really gave me much trouble at all.

FireWolf March 21st, 2011 10:20 AM

Cheren is strong .. Bianca is Not that good ..

N is the toughest , is you consider him as a rival ..

Akihara March 21st, 2011 10:56 AM

I think N. He changes his team too often and it might be difficult to keep like. for example, in Chargestone cave a had a lot of trouble with his Ferroseed and Joltik, since I didn't have any fire type pokemon.

bwburke94 March 21st, 2011 11:27 AM

Cheren. I actually lost the first battle to him in Black (stupid crit hax) but beat him in White.

Also, lolz at the OP for calling N a rival. Anyway, I pwned him easily without even using any Fighting-type moves.

fire woven March 21st, 2011 12:22 PM

N still wasn't ever a challenge. I rolled him every fight. My freind was telling me to be careful when fighting him the last time, and to let him win so I coul take Reshiram and go train on Victory Road, but he died without alot of effort. Biancas dog thing fell to one blow from my starter, which was probably Samurott by the time she gave people trouble, and the hit was just Surf.

n64benowitz177 March 21st, 2011 12:25 PM

I thought that N was the hardest, mostly for the fact that if I didn't get my Zweillous's dragon rush on his Reshiram(not sure on spelling) he would sweep me like he did the first time when I was unprepared.

ChaosWave March 21st, 2011 2:21 PM

Choosing Oshawott, definetly Cheren with his ultra-annoying Serperior >.<

Keizar March 21st, 2011 2:51 PM

To be honest i didn't think that the rivals was that hard, when I just made sure to use a good counter for what they had.

If i had to pick one i would say the last battle against N, would be the hardest, with the last one against Cheren coming in at second place.

The reason the seem somewhat easy to me, is that when i was playing Gold when it was just out, i didn't really know much about tactics and how to use this at your advantage, back then i was more a fan of pure power and just having a level advantage, and beating them even if my own pokemon was weak against my rival.
Which ofc resulted in some harder battles for me.

Lowreh March 21st, 2011 3:47 PM

I have to go with Cheren here, purely because he always appears to battle at the most inappropriate times. Even with Reshiram N wasn't especially challenging.

Dark Piplup March 21st, 2011 4:31 PM

I have to say N. He wasn't hard at all though some of his Pokemon were tough. Changing his team was annoying too.

lamby101 March 22nd, 2011 4:14 AM

Out of Bianca and Cheren, Cheren by a mile, but that's not to say he was much of a challenge.

Hikamaru March 22nd, 2011 4:32 AM

I think Cheren is pretty hard in the first battle, especially if you choose Oshawott as his Snivy is fast.

Shorty- March 22nd, 2011 5:17 AM

I'll say none. I haven't had any problems with any at the point im at.

Clark March 22nd, 2011 5:24 AM

I didn't really have any trouble with the rivals. Cheren was probably the more difficult of the two; I pretty much swept Bianca's team effortlessly every time (which kind of made me feel bad for her). I don't consider N a "rival", but obviously his final battle was tougher than the rival battles.

TheGinger63 March 22nd, 2011 5:33 AM

For me, none of the rivals were particularly "challenging" as much as they were obnoxious. I would have to say Cheren was stronger than Bianca though. N... ya he was just a pain. And him having Zekrom/Reshirem made no difference at all

ElectricScyther March 22nd, 2011 6:01 AM

As amazing as it is, Bianca's team left me down to my Lampent at 6 HP before I won the battle at Tubeline Bridge. Stoutland KO'd four out of six Pokemon I had there.
N? He's extremely easy because he's only used unevolved Pokemon (I think). However, I haven't battled him the last time, so who knows. Honestly, though, N having Zekrom (as I own Black) will make no difference whatsoever.

tjb90 March 22nd, 2011 6:05 AM

I think Cheren is more challenging. He seems to be the stronger of the 2.

Twilight-kun March 22nd, 2011 6:51 AM

I love battling N
All of his Pokemon are the same level, his teams types are predictable (based on location)
and his VS screen and music completely trumps Cheren and Bel, who share a theme...

but as long as you over-train your team, they're all easy, although Cheren gets annoying since he battles you after almost every Gym
but hey, he has a level 35 Janovy?
Meet my Level 65 Daikenki who knows Blizzard

TheGoddessOfDiscord March 22nd, 2011 6:53 AM

Bianca for me. I HATE HER STOUTLAND!!!

RYOUKI March 22nd, 2011 7:01 AM

Both generally are easy, but I'm obliged to say Cheren since he got the Pokemon which has the type-advantage over me.

bwburke94 March 22nd, 2011 9:55 AM

I repeat, calling N a rival is flame bait. I'm surprised no posts have been deleted yet.

Anyway, as I have not done the full battles yet, I can't really answer now.

レイジングブラスト March 22nd, 2011 11:40 AM

N and Bianca are both always easy to me no matter which starter I pick. My favorite rival is Cheren because I find myself actually using my whole team and having to strategize against him rather than sweeping his whole team with one or two Pokemon like I do with N and Bianca.

Pwnyta Jockey March 22nd, 2011 11:47 AM

Cheren is my favored rival in terms of difficulty. Still like Bianca more though.

Don Daddio March 22nd, 2011 12:24 PM

Cheren by far!! but u don't battle N that often but he is hard....Bianca caused me very little trouble i only lost to her once

TTC March 22nd, 2011 1:02 PM

I think N was designed to be the most difficult, but I'd say he and Cheren are pretty even. Unfortunately Bianca was a bit of a joke.

Queen of Darkness March 22nd, 2011 1:44 PM

Bianca was fairly difficult I lost to her once, unlike Cheren and N who I never lost to...

KillehKiwi March 22nd, 2011 1:48 PM

I'm only on the fifth badge, as I just got the game on either Saturday or Sunday, but so far N. is the hardest. His Sigilyph by the ferris wheel in Nimbasa.... I almost quit playing Black right there, it took me so long to kill it! Cheren and Bianca... they're easy.

WhiteWizard March 22nd, 2011 3:46 PM

probably N to be honest... his team just hard countered mine :P

Enigma March 22nd, 2011 5:52 PM

Cheren by far. I've never had any difficulty with Bianca, or if you want to count him, N.

Barn March 22nd, 2011 6:07 PM

Bianca is probably easier for most because she has the Pokémon that are weak to yours - only if you've kept your starter and possibly the monkey.

The Nightmare March 22nd, 2011 11:49 PM

I would say N and Bianca are when they are really strong but N is more mostly.

Hikamaru March 22nd, 2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by レイジングブラスト (Post 6527891)
N and Bianca are both always easy to me no matter which starter I pick. My favorite rival is Cheren because I find myself actually using my whole team and having to strategize against him rather than sweeping his whole team with one or two Pokemon like I do with N and Bianca.

Yeah, Cheren and Bianca are tough. I heard that a lot of users reported that they had lost to Bianca.

|Torch| March 23rd, 2011 12:08 AM

I lol never lost to any of them :) but i would have to say..

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c9/VSN.png
N = Hard (because he has all the main "good" pokemon)

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/cd/VSCheren.png
Cheren = OK (because he has your starters weakness)

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/10/VSBianca.png
Bianca = Easy (because i just had to use Sawk and she would get defeated)

But i would have to say that..

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110210204617/pokemon/images/5/55/GhetsisVS.png
Ghetsis = Hardest (because I was suprised there was a battle after N!)

So he surprised me and was difficult at the same time.

From Torch

インフェルノの津波 March 23rd, 2011 12:22 AM

Cheren, Bianca and N are all on the same boat with me.

Too freaking easy. But Cheren levels up in Badassery when he gets a Haxorus.

CleverProfileName March 23rd, 2011 12:23 AM

N for sure his pokemon in the end game nearly rofl stomped me

danno 507 March 23rd, 2011 5:58 AM

so far my vote goes to cheren...hes not particularly hard but he can be such a pain! N and bianca are too easy :/

SilverCrown March 23rd, 2011 8:39 AM

I had a lot of trouble with Cheren. Especially the final battle with him. :(

Dusk White March 23rd, 2011 1:08 PM

The hardest rival is Cheren. It's him because he always out smarts me. He always use his strongest pokemon first. That's his servine with it's leaf tornado. Then it's easy.

Pochama95 March 23rd, 2011 1:14 PM

Cheren, N, and Bianca are all the same to me 1 hit K.O. Too EASY.

But Bianca is ahead on my vote for the strongest rival only becuz i couldn't kill her Munna in 1 hit with Dewott's Shell Blade

Gary_MotherTucking_Oak March 23rd, 2011 2:32 PM

N by far. The rest of the rivals were quite easy for me.

Woobat March 23rd, 2011 3:18 PM

N was definitely the hardest, but I never lost to any of the rivals. Cheren comes in second just because his starter has the advantage over yours, but he and Bianca were both easy.

Pokemon Master Derrville March 23rd, 2011 8:22 PM

Everytime Bianca complains about not being strong I roll my eyes because shes a hell of a lot stronger than Cheren. I have no problems with Cheren at all and his quest to be the strongest makes me laugh. Bianca however, with her Stoutland make at least one pokemon faint during battle.

D0N3GAN March 26th, 2011 7:36 AM

Cheren throughout the game by far is the most challenging of the three.
Both N & Bianca get alot stronger as the story goes on but even then with Bianca's team of six and N with his Reshiram/Zekrom are still easy enough for me to beat.

Kenshin5 March 26th, 2011 7:50 AM

I never really considered N a rival per say. I thought of him more as the head of Plasma and you were the person trying to foil his plans. He was more challenging if you would actually call him challenging compared to the other two. Bianca and Cheren I really found neither challenging, but they were more worth while then some past rivals like Brendan/May in RSE(who is the worst rival imo).

PlatinumDude March 26th, 2011 4:38 PM

Cheren is the more challenging one if you're not prepared. But lucky for me, I had Whirlipede to take care of Servine.

GlalieX March 26th, 2011 4:47 PM

None of them were that hard except for N the last time. Cheren was decent, Bianca was easy.

BringYourOwnKites March 26th, 2011 9:38 PM

I'd have to say N. His team is just... Wtf...


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